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'''Eudora OSE''' is an email client that combines Mozilla's [[Thunderbird]] with code, features, and GUI elements from Qualcomm's Eudora. See the [[Eudora OSE|home page]] for more information.<br />
<br />
== Eudora OSE 1.0 ==<br />
<br />
The first release of Eudora OSE, version 1.0 (which includes the [[Penelope]] extension) is now available for download. Use the links below to download. Please see the README for information on how to submit bug reports and new feature requests.<br />
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* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/1.0/EudoraOSE-1.0.en-US.win32.installer.exe Windows installer]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/1.0/EudoraOSE-1.0.en-US.mac.dmg Mac disk image]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/1.0/EudoraOSE-1.0.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2 Linux tar file]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/1.0/README.txt README]<br />
<br />
Eudora OSE 1.0 is based on the Thunderbird 3.0.4 source code, so add-ons that do not work with Thunderbird 3.0.4 likely will not work with this version.<br />
<br />
=== Installation Note ===<br />
<br />
Windows users upgrading from Penelope 0.1a19 have things pretty easy, but there's an extra step: uninstall Thunderbird, install Eudora OSE, start Eudora, go into the Tools/Add-ons menu item and uninstall Penelope a19. Upon restarting Eudora the version of Penelope that came with it will automatically be reinstalled.<br />
<br />
NOTE: many add-ons that worked with Eudora beta 1 won't work with beta 2 (or later, as of 2/8/08). It's a smart idea to do a full backup of all your mailboxes and preferences files before doing the upgrade, as "in place" upgrades may have problems.<br />
<br />
== Support ==<br />
For user-based support of Eudora OSE please go to: http://eudorabb.qualcomm.com/forumdisplay.php?f=29<br />
<br />
Mozilla does not provide support for Eudora OSE or the Penelope add-on.</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Eudora_OSE&diff=272116Eudora OSE2010-12-06T19:49:09Z<p>Beckley: </p>
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[[File:Eudora_OSE_splash.png|center]]<br />
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Eudora OSE is the Open Source Edition of one of the internet&rsquo;s most pioneering and enduring applications. It is a re-imagining and re-implementation of classic Eudora features on top of the Mozilla Thunderbird codebase. It is more than just an extension, as certain functionality required changes to the core of the application. Some of these have been accepted into and become part of Thunderbird, while others are still awaiting acceptance.<br />
Eudora OSE integrates so tightly with specific versions of the underlying code that it is highly recommended for users to install the entire application, rather than trying to run the extension on top of Thunderbird.<br />
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All of the Eudora OSE project wiki pages contain the navigation stack featured above, to the right. If you&rsquo;re looking for documentation, downloads, or just an index, this will help you find your way around.<br />
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The following tour highlights some of the distinguishing features of Eudora OSE...<br />
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[[File:OSE_Mac_UI.png|thumb|right|174px|on Mac OS X]]<br />
[[File:OSE_Windows_UI.png|thumb|right|174px|on Windows XP]]<br />
[[File:OSE_Linux_UI.png|thumb|right|174px|on Ubuntu Linux]]<br />
===Classic Style, Modern Platforms===<br />
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Eudora OSE offers users the classic look and feel of the toolbars and menus they&rsquo;re used to, plus more powerful interface customization than ever before. Where these options were formerly defaults limited to the particular operating system you were running, now both the 2- and 3-pane layouts from the classic Mac and Windows versions of Eudora are available in one integrated package. You can choose whichever one suits your taste or matches your operating system &ndash; all with just the click of a button.<br />
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At right, you can see how Eudora OSE looks running on Mac OS X with the mailbox lines preference '''[right above]''', Windows XP (using the classic desktop) with the message preview panel turned off '''[right]''', and Ubuntu Linux '''[right below]''' in the default 3-pane mode.<br />
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[[File:OSE_mailbox_menu-bg.png]]<br />
The classic Eudora mailbox and transfer menus insure that you can always find the messages you&rsquo;re looking for.<br />
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[[File:OSE_toolbar_scaled.png|center]]<br />
Eudora&rsquo;s toolbar buttons keep all the controls at your fingertips.<br />
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===Eudora Power Importer===<br />
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Eudora OSE&rsquo;s full-featured migration assistant imports your existing Eudora mail, address books, personalities and accounts, filters and converts them to the new internal format.<br />
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[[File:OSE_Who_column.png|right]]<br />
===&ldquo;Who&rdquo; Done It ?===<br />
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Eu- knows Who!<br />
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Eudora&rsquo;s Who column automatically displays the sender&rsquo;s name for messages in inbound mailboxes, and the addressee in outbound mailboxes, creating a streamlined and uncluttered mailbox.<br />
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Also visible in this image is Eudora&rsquo;s automatic column padding which keeps your Table of Contents readable without any requiring any user adjustment.<br />
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[[File:OSE_message_selection.png|thumb|right|174px]]<br />
===Mailbox Navigation and Filtering===<br />
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Eudora OSE&rsquo;s [[Group Selection]] and [[Type-To-Select|Type-to-Select]] features allow every user to be a power user! Looking for a particular sender or something you know to be in a message subject? Just start typing and Type-to-Select will take you right to it. A click with the mouse and every message by a specific sender or in a discussion thread can be automatically selected for further processing.<br />
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[[File:OSE_FUMLUB+notes.png|thumb|right|174px]]<br />
===New Message Selection===<br />
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When new mail is received, the classic Eudora [[Select_newly_inserted_messages_(FUMLUB)|FUMLUB feature]] automatically selects the first unread message in the last unread block of messages. Or you can adjust the setting to select the last message in the mailbox.<br />
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[[File:OSE_search_message_window+notes.png|thumb|right|174px]]<br />
===Indexed Searching===<br />
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Eudora OSE&rsquo;s ultra-fast indexed search functionality can search specific mailboxes, mailbox trees, or every mailbox you have to find the terms you&rsquo;re looking for.<br />
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[[File:OSE_reference_lookup-bg.png|thumb|right|174px]]<br />
===Reference Lookup===<br />
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Eudora OSE adds the power of a reference library to your email experience. Whether you&rsquo;re reading a message or composing one, Eudora&rsquo;s [[Reference Lookup]] feature allows you to select a word or phrase and look it up on a variety of online resources. If Google, Wikipedia, Babelfish, and Dictionary or Thesaurus.com don&rsquo;t meet your needs, you can configure your own custom sources for specialized lookups.<br />
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===Content Display Controls===<br />
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Eudora OSE can [[Always_display_remote_images|automatically display remote images]] in all of your messages, or it can give you fine grain control in the form of whitelists and case-by-case approval.<br />
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[[File:OSE_customize_toolbar_UI.png|thumb|right|174px]]<br />
===Toolbar Customization===<br />
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Eudora has long been known for the refinement of its user experience and nowhere is this more obvious than in its classic [[Customizable_Toolbar|toolbar configuration system]] where all available buttons and controls are neatly ordered by menu category.<br />
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===Comprehensive Session Restore===<br />
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When Eudora closes, all of its open windows &ndash; from application settings to messages &ndash; are saved and reopened the next time the program is launched for a persistent user experience bringing you right back to the point where you left off.<br />
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[[File:OSE_prefs_UI.png|thumb|right|174px]]<br />
===Feature Summary===<br />
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A feature-set can be challenging to describe in short option labels, so to keep you from having to jump back and forth between the online documentation and the preference configuration, Eudora OSE provides handy tooltips to explain each preference.<br />
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===Advanced Attachment Handling===<br />
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Eudora OSE&rsquo;s new mailbox format stores attachments directly within the message, but they can be easily [[Message_Attachments|extracted to the hard drive]] with a simple double-click action. The attachments stay linked to their messages, but the mailbox files remain slim and trim.<br />
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===Message Redirection===<br />
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Incoming messages can be [[Redirecting_a_Message|sent to a new recipient &ldquo;by way of&rdquo; you]], maintaining the original sender&rsquo;s address in the ''From'' field. This is particularly useful if you need to pass along a message that should have gone to someone else.<br />
[[File:OSE_redirect_header+button.png|center]]<br />
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== Support ==<br />
For user-based support of Eudora OSE please go to: http://eudorabb.qualcomm.com/forumdisplay.php?f=29<br />
<br />
Mozilla does not provide support for Eudora OSE or the Penelope add-on.</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Eudora_Releases&diff=272112Eudora Releases2010-12-06T19:45:59Z<p>Beckley: </p>
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'''Eudora OSE''' is an email client that combines Mozilla's [[Thunderbird]] with code, features, and GUI elements from Qualcomm's Eudora. See the [[Eudora OSE|home page]] for more information.<br />
<br />
== Eudora OSE 1.0 ==<br />
<br />
The first release of Eudora OSE, version 1.0 (which includes the [[Penelope]] extension) is now available for download. Use the links below to download. Please see the README for information on how to submit bug reports and new feature requests.<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/1.0/EudoraOSE-1.0.en-US.win32.installer.exe Windows installer]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/1.0/EudoraOSE-1.0.en-US.mac.dmg Mac disk image]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/1.0/EudoraOSE-1.0.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2 Linux tar file]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/1.0/README.txt README]<br />
<br />
Eudora OSE 1.0 is based on the Thunderbird 3.0.4 source code, so add-ons that do not work with Thunderbird 3.0.4 likely will not work with this version.<br />
<br />
=== Installation Note ===<br />
<br />
Windows users upgrading from Penelope 0.1a19 have things pretty easy, but there's an extra step: uninstall Thunderbird, install Eudora OSE, start Eudora, go into the Tools/Add-ons menu item and uninstall Penelope a19. Upon restarting Eudora the version of Penelope that came with it will automatically be reinstalled.<br />
<br />
NOTE: many add-ons that worked with Eudora beta 1 won't work with beta 2 (or later, as of 2/8/08). It's a smart idea to do a full backup of all your mailboxes and preferences files before doing the upgrade, as "in place" upgrades may have problems.<br />
<br />
== Support ==<br />
For user-based support of Eudora OSE please go to: http://eudorabb.qualcomm.com/forumdisplay.php?f=29<br />
<br />
Mozilla does not provide support for Eudora OSE or the Penelope add-on.</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Eudora_Releases&diff=252869Eudora Releases2010-09-13T18:43:05Z<p>Beckley: </p>
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'''Eudora OSE''' is an email client that combines Mozilla's [[Thunderbird]] with code, features, and GUI elements from Qualcomm's Eudora. See the [[Eudora OSE|home page]] for more information.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Eudora OSE 1.0 ==<br />
<br />
The first release of Eudora OSE, version 1.0 (which includes the [[Penelope]] extension) is now available for download. Use the links below to download. Please see the README for information on how to submit bug reports and new feature requests.<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/1.0/EudoraOSE-1.0.en-US.win32.installer.exe Windows installer]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/1.0/EudoraOSE-1.0.en-US.mac.dmg Mac disk image]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/1.0/EudoraOSE-1.0.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2 Linux tar file]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/1.0/README.txt README]<br />
<br />
Eudora OSE 1.0 is based on the Thunderbird 3.0.4 source code, so add-ons that do not work with Thunderbird 3.0.4 likely will not work with this version.<br />
<br />
=== Installation Note ===<br />
<br />
Windows users upgrading from Penelope 0.1a19 have things pretty easy, but there's an extra step: uninstall Thunderbird, install Eudora OSE, start Eudora, go into the Tools/Add-ons menu item and uninstall Penelope a19. Upon restarting Eudora the version of Penelope that came with it will automatically be reinstalled.<br />
<br />
NOTE: many add-ons that worked with Eudora beta 1 won't work with beta 2 (or later, as of 2/8/08). It's a smart idea to do a full backup of all your mailboxes and preferences files before doing the upgrade, as "in place" upgrades may have problems.</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Eudora_Releases&diff=252860Eudora Releases2010-09-13T18:24:43Z<p>Beckley: Final 1.0 release</p>
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'''Eudora OSE''' is an email client that combines Mozilla's [[Thunderbird]] with code, features, and GUI elements from Qualcomm's Eudora. See the [[Eudora OSE|home page]] for more information.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Eudora OSE 1.0 ==<br />
<br />
The first release of Eudora OSE, version 1.0 (which includes the [[Penelope]] extension) is now available for download. Use the links below to download. Please see the README for information on how to submit bug reports and new feature requests.<br />
<br />
Eudora OSE 1.0 is based on the Thunderbird 3.0.4 source code, so add-ons that do not work with Thunderbird 3.0.4 likely will not work with this version.<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/1.0/EudoraOSE-1.0.en-US.win32.installer.exe Windows installer]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/1.0/EudoraOSE-1.0.en-US.mac.dmg Mac disk image]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/1.0/EudoraOSE-1.0.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2 Linux tar file]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/1.0/README.txt README]<br />
<br />
=== Installation Note ===<br />
<br />
Windows users upgrading from Penelope 0.1a19 have things pretty easy, but there's an extra step: uninstall Thunderbird, install Eudora OSE, start Eudora, go into the Tools/Add-ons menu item and uninstall Penelope a19. Upon restarting Eudora the version of Penelope that came with it will automatically be reinstalled.<br />
<br />
NOTE: many add-ons that worked with Eudora beta 1 won't work with beta 2 (or later, as of 2/8/08). It's a smart idea to do a full backup of all your mailboxes and preferences files before doing the upgrade, as "in place" upgrades may have problems.</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Penelope_Extensions&diff=252859Penelope Extensions2010-09-13T18:24:34Z<p>Beckley: Final 1.0 release</p>
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<div>== Penelope Extension Releases ==<br />
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The Penelope extension works with Thunderbird 3.0.4 or higher. For more information about Penelope see the [[Penelope|main wiki page]].<br />
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The current versions of Penelope are [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/1.0/penelope-1.0.win.xpi 1.0 Windows] | [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/1.0/penelope-1.0.mac.xpi 1.0 Mac] | [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/1.0/penelope-1.0.linux.xpi 1.0 Linux]. However, it is recommended that you use a version of Penelope that comes with a [[Eudora Releases|Eudora OSE release]] to ensure maximum compatibility and functionality.<br />
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See the [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/1.0/README.txt Eudora OSE release notes] for details on .<br />
<br />
&raquo; Note to Firefox users:<br />
When you click a link to an XPI file, Firefox thinks you are trying to install an extension to Firefox and brings up the install dialog. This is not going to work. Instead, Right-click on the links for the extension and save to disk, then install from within Thunderbird's Tools->Add-ons window.<br />
<br />
&raquo; Note to Safari users: <br />
When you click on the http link, Safari may try to load the XPI file as plain text. To avoid this, right-click (or control-click) on it and select Download Linked File from the contextual menu.</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Penelope_Extensions&diff=240873Penelope Extensions2010-07-23T22:59:19Z<p>Beckley: Penelope 1.0 rc2</p>
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<div>== Penelope Extension Releases ==<br />
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The Penelope extension works with Thunderbird 3.0.4 or higher. For more information about Penelope see the [[Penelope|main wiki page]].<br />
<br />
The current version of Penelope is [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/1.0rc2/penelope-1.0rc2.win.xpi 1.0rc2 Windows] | [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/1.0rc2/penelope-1.0rc2.mac.xpi 1.0rc2 Mac] | [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/1.0rc2/penelope-1.0rc2.linux.xpi 1.0rc2 Linux]. However, it is recommended that you use a version of Penelope with a [[Eudora Releases|Eudora OSE release]] to ensure maximum compatibility and functionality.<br />
<br />
This release contains mainly critical fixes for the 1.0 release. See the [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/1.0rc2/README.txt Eudora release notes] for more details.<br />
<br />
&raquo; Note to Firefox users:<br />
When you click a link to an XPI file, Firefox thinks you are trying to install an extension to Firefox and brings up the install dialog. This is not going to work. Instead, Right-click on the links for the extension and save to disk, then install from within Thunderbird's Tools->Add-ons window.<br />
<br />
&raquo; Note to Safari users: <br />
When you click on the http link, Safari may try to load the XPI file as plain text. To avoid this, right-click (or control-click) on it and select Download Linked File from the contextual menu.<br />
<br />
=== Previous Versions ===<br />
<br />
Previous versions of Penelope are available:<br />
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* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/1.0rc1/ 1.0rc1]<br />
** This release improves upon the Search Message window regarding indexed searching, and a number of other improvements to mailbox windows.<br />
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* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b9/ 1.0b1]<br />
** This release provides fixes to a variety of items, and defaults a number of preferences to be similar to Classic Eudora.<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b8/penelope-0.5a5.xpi 0.5a5]<br />
** This release addresses a number of issues with automatic message selection and focus in mailboxes.<br />
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* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b7/penelope-0.5a4.xpi 0.5a4]<br />
** This release addresses a number of issues that arose with under-the-hood changes to Thunderbird in version 3.0b3, especially involving mailbox display and tabs.<br />
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* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b6/penelope-0.5a3.xpi 0.5a3]<br />
** This release adds a number of new features and bug fixes around mailbox and message tabs and the customize toolbar dialog.<br />
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* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b5/penelope-0.5a2.xpi 0.5a2]<br>Main new features:<br />
** Various tab additions/improvements<br />
** Added shift key modifier to the Transfer menu items and toolbar buttons to do copy vs. move.<br />
** Holding down alt/option when clicking on an open mailbox toolbar button will now do a transfer.<br />
** "Show message preview pane" setting added to Penelope pref panel. If on (which it is by default), then the preview pane is shown at its last saved position. If it's off then both the preview pane and the splitter before it are hidden.<br />
<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b4/penelope-0.5a1.xpi 0.5a1]<br>Main new features:<br />
** Classic Eudora Redirect feature added<br />
** Open windows saved between sessions<br />
** Mailboxes that receive new messages are automatically opened<br />
** Opened mailboxes automatically select a recent unread message<br />
** Mailbox window font name and size prefs<br />
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* [http://www.eudora.com/download/penelope/penelope-0.1a22.xpi 0.1a22]<br>The main thrust of the changes was to make the extension more compatible with Thunderbird 3.0 (trunk) versions. There are a number of minor changes as well:<br />
** Auto-compaction was turned on by default, and is set to a threshold of 10 MB.<br />
** Hitting space to go through unread messages is now fixed.<br />
** Ctrl/Cmd+M now mapped to Mail Check instead of New Message.<br />
** Junk, Not Junk, Delete menu items fixed.<br />
** Junk, Not Junk shortcuts (Ctrl/Cmd + [Shift] + J) fixed.<br />
** "Make Address Book Entry" menu item now in correct spot in Tools menu (Mac only).<br />
** Empty menu items in Tools menu removed.<br />
** Customize Toolbar dialog fixed under Mac and general UI improvements including moving strings to localizable files.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.eudora.com/penelope/penelope-0.1a19.xpi 0.1a19]<br />
* [http://www.eudora.com/penelope/penelope-0.1a16.xpi 0.1a16]: fixes errors on the javascript console and makes the Penelope extension compatible with addons.mozilla.org.<br />
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=== Eudora ===<br />
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Installers for the new versions of Eudora based on Thunderbird can be found on the [[Eudora Releases]] page. These installers also include Penelope in them.</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Penelope&diff=237417Penelope2010-07-09T22:06:36Z<p>Beckley: /* Release Cycle */</p>
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Eudora 8 is now... '''Eudora OSE'''. After much discussion and feedback, it became readily apparent that the original name would inevitably lead to confusion amongst the users &ndash; and that just wouldn&rsquo;t do.<br />
<br />
The last version of Eudora that was developed commercially for Mac was 6.2, and 7.1 for Windows. These versions are now quite old, and will not be updated. In the meantime, the world moves on, and with every new release of MacOS and Windows, there is an additional likelihood that these versions will no longer work reliably.<br />
<br />
Eudora OSE is the Open Source Edition of one of the internet&rsquo;s most pioneering and enduring applications. It is a re-imagining and re-implementation of classic Eudora features on top of the Mozilla Thunderbird codebase. It is more than just an extension, as certain functionality required changes to the core of the application. Some of these have been accepted into and become part of Thunderbird, while others are still awaiting acceptance.<br />
<br />
Eudora OSE integrates so tightly with specific versions of the underlying code that it is highly recommended for users to install the entire application, rather than trying to run the extension on top of Thunderbird.<br />
<br />
Eudora OSE does not have every feature and behavior of the commercial versions so it was misleading to call it &ldquo;version 8&rdquo;. The most important thing that Eudora OSE has is a future &ndash; because it&rsquo;s built as part of a modern, ongoing codebase. So, while there may be reasons some of you prefer the old versions, you should be aware that someday they will break, and they will not be fixed. Now would be an excellent time to try Eudora OSE, and to consider switching to it; for your peace of mind if nothing else.<br />
<br />
The codename for the Open Source Eudora project &ndash; as it was originally announced, and as it exists today &ndash; is Penelope. If you look in the Add-ons list or file a bug, or even look at the title of this page, that is the name you will see. It was intended to create a distinction between the classic Eudora program and the exciting new direction. But in the end, it caused too much confusion for people to sort out or remember what Penelope was or wasn&rsquo;t, what Eudora 8 was or wasn&rsquo;t, and/or where one ended and the other began.<br />
<br />
The new name marks a new beginning. Simpler. Clearer. '''Eudora OSE''' is here.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Quick Links ==<br />
* [[Documentation_Project|Documentation]]<br />
* [[Penelope_Roadmap|Development Roadmap]]<br />
* [[Eudora Releases]]<br />
* [[Penelope Extensions]]<br />
<br />
== Release Cycle ==<br />
<br />
In order to maintain maximum compatibility across both codebases, it is our intention to match the release cycle of the Thunderbird project. That means that every time there's a new release of Thunderbird, a new release of Eudora/Penelope will follow shortly.<br />
<br />
The current version of Eudora is always available on the [[Eudora Releases]] page. If you just want the latest Penelope extension without Eudora, you can get it on the [[Penelope Extensions]] page. Because the evolution of the Penelope code is tied to that of Thunderbird, it is recommended that you use a version of Penelope that comes with a Eudora OSE release to ensure maximum compatibility.<br />
<br />
== Bug Reports and Enhancement Requests ==<br />
<br />
If you're experiencing problems with Penelope/Eudora, we want to hear about it. Before filing new bugs, it's always helpful to check and see if anyone else is having the same issue. Since Penelope and Thunderbird are intertwined, it can be difficult to know which part of the mail application is giving you grief. You can use these predefined searches to check for bugs in the [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Penelope&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=VERIFIED&resolution=---&cmdtype=doit&order=Importance&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= Penelope Bugzilla Database], or in the [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Thunderbird&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=VERIFIED&resolution=---&cmdtype=doit&order=Importance&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= Thunderbird Bugzilla Database].<br />
<br />
If you've been using a classic, commercial version of Eudora (or even if you haven't) and would like to help prioritize the feature development of the new, open source version, your input would be most appreciated. It's important to keep in mind that the open source version of Eudora is a work in progress, and still in its infancy.<br />
<br />
The feature set for the classic version of Eudora was refined over many years of active development (almost two decades' worth). The challenge now is to evaluate that rich suite of features and give some priority to recreating [the most relevant of] them for open source users. Progress is likely to be somewhat slower than on a commercial project where work is divided up amongst teams of developers who set to work like a school of piranha. One or two piranha gnawing away on a buffalo will eventually get through the whole thing, but it's a far less instantaneous process.<br />
<br />
You can check the [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Penelope&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_severity=enhancement&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= Penelope Bugzilla Enhancement Database] to see what's on the drawing board and to file your own suggestions. If you would like to comment about '''how''' a particular feature is implemented, or about any other aspect of the feature, feel free to add a comment to the bug.<br />
<br />
If you like a feature, but do not have anything specific to say about it, please avoid posting 'Me too!' or 'I agree' comments. Instead, please '''VOTE''' for the feature. (The voting option appears just above the 'Additional Comments' section when you are viewing a bug).<br />
<br />
'''Note:''' in order to comment on, or vote for bugs, you will need to have a [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/createaccount.cgi Bugzilla Account].<br />
<br />
== For Developers ==<br />
<br />
If you are a developer and want to get involved, see the [[Penelope Developer Page]] for more information.<br />
<br />
== Keeping an Eye on the Goings On ==<br />
<br />
<div class="floatright" style="margin-top:1em;"><span class="plainlinks">[http://www.twitter.com/Eudora_OSE http://twitter-badges.s3.amazonaws.com/follow_us-b.png]</span></div><br />
<br />
Because Penelope is an ongoing project, there are a number of ways to watch and participate and users are encouraged to participate in the process to whatever exent they're inclined or able.<br />
<br />
Implemented features will be described in the [[Documentation Project|Documentation section]].<br />
<br />
Requested features and reported bugs can be viewed, voted on, or filed in the [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Penelope&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=VERIFIED&resolution=---&cmdtype=doit&order=Importance&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= Penelope section] of the Bugzilla database (as described above).<br />
<br />
To discuss Penelope, see the [[Talk:Penelope|Discussion]] tab above, the [http://eudorabb.qualcomm.com/forumdisplay.php?f=28 Penelope Section of the Eudora Forums] or the unofficial newsgroup [http://emailman.newsgrouphosting.com/readgroup?group=emailman.software.clients.eudora.penelope emailman.software.clients.eudora.penelope]. The latter is accessible via web or newsreader.<br />
<br />
* Core team members hang out in '''#penelope''' on '''irc.mozilla.org'''. For basic information on getting started with IRC, see the [[Penelope IRC]] page.<br />
<br />
* The [http://eudorabb.qualcomm.com/forumdisplay.php?f=28 Penelope Section of the Eudora Forums] provides a forum for discussing ideas, making suggestions, etc.<br />
<br />
== Team Members ==<br />
<br />
The core members of the Penelope project are currently:<br />
<br />
* [mailto:sdorner@qualcomm.com Steve Dorner], [http://www.qualcomm.com QUALCOMM&reg;], original author of Eudora for Macintosh<br />
* [mailto:beckley@qualcomm.com Jeff Beckley], QUALCOMM, original co-author of Eudora for Windows<br />
* [mailto:dwiggins@qualcomm.com Dale Wiggins], QUALCOMM, longtime Eudora developer<br />
* [mailto:mdudziak@qualcomm.com Matt Dudziak], QUALCOMM, longtime Eudora project manager<br />
* [mailto:mcharleb@qualcomm.com Mark Charlebois], QUALCOMM, Linux developer and Thunderbird user<br />
* [mailto:gwenger@qualcomm.com Geoffrey Wenger], QUALCOMM, longtime Eudora developer<br />
<br />
== QUALCOMM Involvement ==<br />
<br />
Eudora has been a QUALCOMM product for many years. QUALCOMM continues to have a keen interest in the users of Eudora, and is being kind enough to donate the time of the above staff members to the Penelope project.<br />
<br />
Qualcomm is committed to both preserving the Eudora user experience and to maintaining maximum compatibility, for both developers and users, with Thunderbird. It is our goal to build a single development community around Thunderbird and Eudora, so that both mailers advance faster than they have previously.<br />
<br />
== Trademarks ==<br />
<br />
QUALCOMM and Eudora are registered trademarks of QUALCOMM Incorporated.</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Penelope_Extensions&diff=236218Penelope Extensions2010-07-02T22:35:24Z<p>Beckley: Penelope 1.0 rc1</p>
<hr />
<div>== Penelope Extension Beta 1.0 Releases ==<br />
<br />
The Penelope extension works with Thunderbird 3.0.4 or higher. For more information about Penelope see the [[Penelope|main wiki page]].<br />
<br />
The current version of Penelope is [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/1.0rc1/penelope-1.0rc1.win.xpi 1.0rc1 Windows] | [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/1.0rc1/penelope-1.0rc1.mac.xpi 1.0rc1 Mac] | [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/1.0rc1/penelope-1.0rc1.linux.xpi 1.0rc1 Linux]. However, it is recommended that you use a version of Penelope with a [[Eudora Releases|Eudora OSE release]] to ensure maximum compatibility and functionality.<br />
<br />
This release improves upon the Search Message window regarding indexed searching, and a number of other improvements to mailbox windows. See the [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/1.0rc1/README.txt Eudora release notes] for more details.<br />
<br />
&raquo; Note to Firefox users:<br />
When you click a link to an XPI file, Firefox thinks you are trying to install an extension to Firefox and brings up the install dialog. This is not going to work. Instead, Right-click on the links for the extension and save to disk, then install from within Thunderbird's Tools->Add-ons window.<br />
<br />
&raquo; Note to Safari users: <br />
When you click on the http link, Safari may try to load the XPI file as plain text. To avoid this, right-click (or control-click) on it and select Download Linked File from the contextual menu.<br />
<br />
=== Previous Versions ===<br />
<br />
Previous versions of Penelope are available:<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b9/ 1.0b1]<br />
** This release provides fixes to a variety of items, and defaults a number of preferences to be similar to Classic Eudora.<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b8/penelope-0.5a5.xpi 0.5a5]<br />
** This release addresses a number of issues with automatic message selection and focus in mailboxes.<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b7/penelope-0.5a4.xpi 0.5a4]<br />
** This release addresses a number of issues that arose with under-the-hood changes to Thunderbird in version 3.0b3, especially involving mailbox display and tabs.<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b6/penelope-0.5a3.xpi 0.5a3]<br />
** This release adds a number of new features and bug fixes around mailbox and message tabs and the customize toolbar dialog.<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b5/penelope-0.5a2.xpi 0.5a2]<br>Main new features:<br />
** Various tab additions/improvements<br />
** Added shift key modifier to the Transfer menu items and toolbar buttons to do copy vs. move.<br />
** Holding down alt/option when clicking on an open mailbox toolbar button will now do a transfer.<br />
** "Show message preview pane" setting added to Penelope pref panel. If on (which it is by default), then the preview pane is shown at its last saved position. If it's off then both the preview pane and the splitter before it are hidden.<br />
<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b4/penelope-0.5a1.xpi 0.5a1]<br>Main new features:<br />
** Classic Eudora Redirect feature added<br />
** Open windows saved between sessions<br />
** Mailboxes that receive new messages are automatically opened<br />
** Opened mailboxes automatically select a recent unread message<br />
** Mailbox window font name and size prefs<br />
<br />
* [http://www.eudora.com/download/penelope/penelope-0.1a22.xpi 0.1a22]<br>The main thrust of the changes was to make the extension more compatible with Thunderbird 3.0 (trunk) versions. There are a number of minor changes as well:<br />
** Auto-compaction was turned on by default, and is set to a threshold of 10 MB.<br />
** Hitting space to go through unread messages is now fixed.<br />
** Ctrl/Cmd+M now mapped to Mail Check instead of New Message.<br />
** Junk, Not Junk, Delete menu items fixed.<br />
** Junk, Not Junk shortcuts (Ctrl/Cmd + [Shift] + J) fixed.<br />
** "Make Address Book Entry" menu item now in correct spot in Tools menu (Mac only).<br />
** Empty menu items in Tools menu removed.<br />
** Customize Toolbar dialog fixed under Mac and general UI improvements including moving strings to localizable files.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.eudora.com/penelope/penelope-0.1a19.xpi 0.1a19]<br />
* [http://www.eudora.com/penelope/penelope-0.1a16.xpi 0.1a16]: fixes errors on the javascript console and makes the Penelope extension compatible with addons.mozilla.org.<br />
<br />
=== Eudora ===<br />
<br />
Installers for the new versions of Eudora based on Thunderbird can be found on the [[Eudora Releases]] page. These installers also include Penelope in them.</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Penelope_Extensions&diff=206220Penelope Extensions2010-03-05T01:09:55Z<p>Beckley: Penelope 1.0 beta 1 release</p>
<hr />
<div>== Penelope Extension Beta 1.0 Releases ==<br />
<br />
The Penelope extension works with Thunderbird 3.0.1 or higher. For more information about Penelope see the [[Penelope|main wiki page]].<br />
<br />
The current version of Penelope is [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b9/penelope-1.0b1-pc.xpi 1.0b1 Windows/Linux] | [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b9/penelope-1.0b1-mac.xpi 1.0b1 Mac]. However, it is recommended that you use a version of Penelope that comes with a [[Eudora Releases|Eudora 8 release]] to ensure maximum compatibility.<br />
<br />
This release provides fixes to a variety of items, and defaults a number of preferences to be similar to Classic Eudora. See the [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b9/README.txt Eudora release notes] for more details. It also is the first release that has separate XPI files for Windows/Linux vs. Mac.<br />
<br />
&raquo; Note to Firefox users:<br />
When you click a link to an XPI file, Firefox thinks you are trying to install an extension to Firefox and brings up the install dialog. This is not going to work. Instead, Right-click on the links for the extension and save to disk, then install from within Thunderbird's Tools->Add-ons window.<br />
<br />
&raquo; Note to Safari users: <br />
When you click on the http link, Safari may try to load the XPI file as plain text. To avoid this, right-click (or control-click) on it and select Download Linked File from the contextual menu.<br />
<br />
=== Previous Versions ===<br />
<br />
Previous versions of Penelope are available:<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b8/penelope-0.5a5.xpi 0.5a5]<br />
** This release addresses a number of issues with automatic message selection and focus in mailboxes.<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b7/penelope-0.5a4.xpi 0.5a4]<br />
** This release addresses a number of issues that arose with under-the-hood changes to Thunderbird in version 3.0b3, especially involving mailbox display and tabs.<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b6/penelope-0.5a3.xpi 0.5a3]<br />
** This release adds a number of new features and bug fixes around mailbox and message tabs and the customize toolbar dialog.<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b5/penelope-0.5a2.xpi 0.5a2]<br>Main new features:<br />
** Various tab additions/improvements<br />
** Added shift key modifier to the Transfer menu items and toolbar buttons to do copy vs. move.<br />
** Holding down alt/option when clicking on an open mailbox toolbar button will now do a transfer.<br />
** "Show message preview pane" setting added to Penelope pref panel. If on (which it is by default), then the preview pane is shown at its last saved position. If it's off then both the preview pane and the splitter before it are hidden.<br />
<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b4/penelope-0.5a1.xpi 0.5a1]<br>Main new features:<br />
** Classic Eudora Redirect feature added<br />
** Open windows saved between sessions<br />
** Mailboxes that receive new messages are automatically opened<br />
** Opened mailboxes automatically select a recent unread message<br />
** Mailbox window font name and size prefs<br />
<br />
* [http://www.eudora.com/download/penelope/penelope-0.1a22.xpi 0.1a22]<br>The main thrust of the changes was to make the extension more compatible with Thunderbird 3.0 (trunk) versions. There are a number of minor changes as well:<br />
** Auto-compaction was turned on by default, and is set to a threshold of 10 MB.<br />
** Hitting space to go through unread messages is now fixed.<br />
** Ctrl/Cmd+M now mapped to Mail Check instead of New Message.<br />
** Junk, Not Junk, Delete menu items fixed.<br />
** Junk, Not Junk shortcuts (Ctrl/Cmd + [Shift] + J) fixed.<br />
** "Make Address Book Entry" menu item now in correct spot in Tools menu (Mac only).<br />
** Empty menu items in Tools menu removed.<br />
** Customize Toolbar dialog fixed under Mac and general UI improvements including moving strings to localizable files.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.eudora.com/penelope/penelope-0.1a19.xpi 0.1a19]<br />
* [http://www.eudora.com/penelope/penelope-0.1a16.xpi 0.1a16]: fixes errors on the javascript console and makes the Penelope extension compatible with addons.mozilla.org.<br />
<br />
=== Eudora ===<br />
<br />
Installers for the new versions of Eudora based on Thunderbird can be found on the [[Eudora Releases]] page. These installers also include Penelope in them.</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Eudora_Releases&diff=206217Eudora Releases2010-03-05T00:45:15Z<p>Beckley: Eudora 8 beta 9 release</p>
<hr />
<div>'''Eudora 8''' is an email client that combines Mozilla's [[Thunderbird]] with code, features, and GUI elements from Qualcomm's Eudora.<br />
<br />
== Eudora 8.0b9 (4 Mar 2010) ==<br />
<br />
The latest beta release of Eudora, version 8.0b9 (which includes the [[Penelope]] extension) is now available for download. Use the links below to download. Please see the README for information on how to submit bug reports and new feature requests.<br />
<br />
Eudora 8.0b9 is based on the Thunderbird 3.0.1 source code, so add-ons that do not work with Thunderbird 3.0.1 likely will not work with this beta version.<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b9/Eudora-8.0b9.en-US.win32.installer.exe Windows installer]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b9/Eudora-8.0b9.en-US.mac.dmg Mac disk image]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b9/Eudora-8.0b9.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2 Linux tar file]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b9/README.txt README]<br />
<br />
=== Installation Note ===<br />
<br />
Windows users upgrading from Penelope 0.1a19 have things pretty easy, but there's an extra step: uninstall Thunderbird, install Eudora 8, start Eudora, go into the Tools/Add-ons menu item and uninstall Penelope a19. Upon restarting Eudora the version of Penelope that came with it will automatically be reinstalled.<br />
<br />
NOTE: many add-ons that worked with Eudora beta 1 won't work with beta 2 (or later, as of 2/8/08). It's a smart idea to do a full backup of all your mailboxes and preferences files before doing the upgrade, as "in place" upgrades may have problems.<br />
<br />
== Previous Versions ==<br />
<br />
=== Eudora 8.0b8 (5 Jan 2010) ===<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b8/Eudora-8.0b8.en-US.win32.installer.exe Windows installer]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b8/Eudora-8.0b8.en-US.mac.dmg Mac disk image]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b8/Eudora-8.0b8.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2 Linux tar file]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b8/README.txt README]<br />
<br />
=== Eudora 8.0b7 (4 Sep 2009) ===<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b7/Eudora-8.0b7.en-US.win32.installer.exe Windows installer]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b7/Eudora-8.0b7.en-US.mac.dmg Mac disk image]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b7/Eudora-8.0b7.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2 Linux tar file]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b7/README.txt README]<br />
<br />
=== Eudora 8.0b6 (8 Apr 2009) ===<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b6/Eudora-8.0b6.en-US.win32.installer.exe Windows installer]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b6/Eudora-8.0b6.en-US.mac.dmg Mac disk image]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b6/Eudora-8.0b6.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2 Linux tar file]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b6/README.txt README]<br />
<br />
=== Eudora 8.0.0b5 (16 Jan 2009) ===<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b5/Eudora-8.0.0b5.en-US.win32.installer.exe Windows installer]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b5/Eudora-8.0.0b5.en-US.mac.dmg Mac disk image]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b5/Eudora-8.0.0b5.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2 Linux tar file]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b5/README.txt README]<br />
<br />
=== Eudora 8.0.0b4 (03 Nov 2008) ===<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b4/Eudora-8.0.0b4.en-US.win32.installer.exe Windows installer]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b4/Eudora-8.0.0b4.en-US.mac.dmg Mac disk image]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b4/Eudora-8.0.0b4.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2 Linux tar file]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b4/ReadMe.txt ReadMe]<br />
<br />
=== Eudora 8.0.0b3 (22 Feb 2008) ===<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/windows/8.0/Eudora-8.0.0b3.en-US.win32.installer.exe Windows installer]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/mac/8.0/Eudora-8.0.0b3.en-US.mac.dmg Mac disk image]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/linux/8.0/Eudora-8.0.0b3.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2 Linux tar file]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b3/RelNotes.txt ReadMe]<br />
<br />
=== Eudora 8.0.0b2 (17 Dec 2007) ===<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/windows/8.0/Eudora-8.0.0b2.en-US.win32.installer.exe Windows installer]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/mac/8.0/Eudora-8.0.0b2.en-US.mac.dmg Mac disk image]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b2/RelNotes.txt ReadMe]<br />
<br />
=== Eudora 8.0.0b1 ===<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/windows/8.0/Eudora-8.0.0b1.en-US.win32.installer.exe Windows installer]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/windows/8.0/ReadMe.txt Windows ReadMe]<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/mac/8.0/Eudora-8.0.0b1.en-US.mac.dmg Mac disk image]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/mac/8.0/ReadMe.txt Mac ReadMe]</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2010-01-19&diff=195029Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2010-01-192010-01-19T17:43:20Z<p>Beckley: /* beckley */</p>
<hr />
<div><small>[[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2010-01-12|last meeting]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings|index]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2010-01-26|next meeting »]]</small> <br />
<br />
'''Thunderbird Meeting Details'''&nbsp;: <br />
<br />
*[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2010&month=01&day=19&hour=17&min=30&sec=0 Tuesday, January 19th, 17:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern) <br />
*[[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]<br />
<br />
== Agenda ==<br />
<br />
*Who's taking minutes? --&gt; '''bienvenu''' <br />
*[http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.<br />
<br />
=== Action Items ===<br />
<br />
==== New ====<br />
<br />
==== Open ====<br />
* Planning for a dry-run security firedrill build<br />
** Checklist: [[Thunderbird/Release_Driving/Firedrills|draft checklist for firedrill actions]]<br />
** gozer and Standard8 to 'schedule' run through<br />
<br />
==== Closed ====<br />
<br />
=== Friends of the Tree ===<br />
* [http://boblord.livejournal.com/ Bob Lord] For triaging S/MIME and certificate bugs in the Thunderbird/Security component.<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3.1|Thunderbird 3.1 (Lanikai)]] ===<br />
<br />
==== Lanikai Alpha 1 ====<br />
<br />
===== Schedule =====<br />
Not much in 3.1a1, because it hasn't been driven much. I've posted a message proposing that, in the interest of getting in the habit of doing regular releases, we proceed with the following schedule anyway:<br />
{{:Thunderbird:Thunderbird 3.1a1}}<br />
Are there reasons not to go forward with this?<br />
<br />
===== Lists of Bugs =====<br />
* Blockers <br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/chart.cgi?category=-All-&datefrom=2009-08-19&dateto=&gt=1&label0=TB%20TB%203.1&label1=MC%20TB%203.1&label2=MoMo%20TB%203.1&labelgt=Grand%20Total&line0=1952&line1=1953&line2=1954&name=1183&subcategory=-All-&ctype=png&action=plot&width=400&height=232 3.1 Blocker Chart]<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3.1%2B&sharer_id=112088 blocking-thunderbird3.1+ (includes tb31needs)]: 62 (+8)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3.1%3F&sharer_id=112088 blocking-thunderbird3.1?]: 87 (+17)<br />
<br />
* Fixed Alpha 1<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.1a1 blocking|blocking-thunderbird3.1%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.1a1}}: 5 (+1)<br />
<br />
=== Thunderbird 3.0.x Developer Update ===<br />
<br />
* [[Thunderbird/Release_Driving/Maintenance_Release_Checklist|3.0.x Release checklist]] updated<br />
* [http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=Thunderbird3.0 Tinderbox] has links to:<br />
** [[Thunderbird/Thunderbird3_Security_And_Stability_Releases#General_Process_for_landing_bugs_on_Thunderbird_3.0.x|Process for getting bugs into 3.0.x]]<br />
** [[Thunderbird/Thunderbird3_Security_And_Stability_Releases#Status_Tracking|Tracking and Status page]]<br />
<br />
==== [[Releases/Thunderbird_3.0.1|3.0.1]] ====<br />
<br />
* Builds started.<br />
* Beta Period Starts: January 13<br />
* Estimated Release Date: January 20<br />
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?field0-0-0=cf_status_thunderbird30;query_format=advanced;type0-0-0=equals;value0-0-0=.1-fixed Fixed 3.0.1]: 77 (+34)<br />
** 57 actual fixes, the remaining 19 were bugs that landed on the relbranch for 3.0 as well as for 3.0.1.<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20status-thunderbird3.0:.1-fixed%20-kw:verified-thunderbird3.0&order=bugs.bug_id need verification]: 36 (-4)<br />
<br />
==== [[Releases/Thunderbird_3.0.2|3.0.2]] ====<br />
<br />
* Schedule TBD.<br />
* May look to sync with Gecko 1.9.1.8 (builds start Feb 1, release Feb 16).<br />
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20blocking-thunderbird3.0:needed|blocking-thunderbird3.0:.2+%20-status-thunderbird3.0:fixed&order=map_assigned_to.login_name,bugs.bug_id Blockers (needed and .2)]: 30 (+3)<br />
** Of which [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20blocking-thunderbird3.0:.2+%20-status-thunderbird3.0:.2-fixed&order=map_assigned_to.login_name,bugs.bug_id blocking 3.0.2]: 2<br />
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?field0-0-0=cf_blocking_thunderbird30;query_format=advanced;type0-0-0=equals;value0-0-0=%3F Blocking Nominations]: 6 (+2)<br />
<br />
=== QA Updates ===<br />
Last week<br />
* 3.0.1 following<br />
* bug triaging<br />
<br />
This week<br />
* 3.1a1 will get our attention<br />
* Thursday event will focus on bugs that might have [[Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2010-10-21|duplicates]].<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Top Crashers for 3.0.1<br />
<br />
<br />
{| class="fullwidth-table"<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: rgb(239, 239, 239) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | '''status''' <br />
| style="background: rgb(239, 239, 239) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | '''bug''' <br />
| style="background: rgb(239, 239, 239) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | '''summary''' <br />
| style="background: rgb(239, 239, 239) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | # crash /week<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | Unassigned - no progress<br />
| {{Bug|537822}} <br />
| XPCWrappedNativeScope::TraceJS(JSTracer*, XPCJSRuntime*) <br />
| 30<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | No signature bug<br />
| <br />
| <br />
| 27<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | Unassigned - no progress<br />
| {{bug|536308}} <br />
| arena_dalloc_small | arena_dalloc | free | sqlite3_free | pcache1TruncateUnsafe<br />
| 24 <br />
|-<br />
| style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | Unassigned - no progress<br />
| {{bug|537011}} <br />
| JS_CallTracer<br />
| 22<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | Unassigned - no progress<br />
| {{Bug|536960}} <br />
| sqlite3DbMallocRaw <br />
| 21<br />
|}<br />
<br />
=== Marketing Updates ===<br />
* PR Update: <br />
**Lightning Beta 1 Stories: [http://lifehacker.com/5447181/lightning-beta-brings-calendars-back-to-thunderbird-3 Lifehacker], [http://www.ghacks.net/2010/01/14/mozilla-lighting-1-0-beta-released-mozilla/ Ghacks]<br />
** Operation Aurora in the news [http://www.mcafee.com/us/threat_center/aurora_enterprise.html from McAfee] <br />
* 5.9MM ADUs, peaked 1/13<br />
* [https://preview.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/compatibility Thunderbird Add-on Compatibility Center] is up, 89% of Add-ons are up-to-date with Thunderbird 3<br />
<br />
=== IT update ===<br />
<br />
* [http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/nightly/3.0.1-candidates/build1/ Thunderbird 3.0.1] ready to release<br />
* Thunderbird 3.1a1 ready to build<br />
* [http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/Thunderbird3.1 Thunderbird3.1] builds are temporarly following the 3.1a1 release branch (mozilla-1.9.2)<br />
* New Win32 builders are in production<br />
* [http://build.mozillamessaging.com/tinderboxpushlog/ tinderboxpushlog] updated<br />
* SuMoMo is getting ready for prime-time launch<br />
<br />
=== Documentation ===<br />
<br />
DONE<br />
<br />
* sumomo: testing (feedback to Roland)<br />
* sumomo: migration assistant [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=530135 bug 530135]<br />
* sumomo: manually configuring accounts [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=530122 bug 530122]<br />
* sumomo: sending and receiving messages [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=530122 bug 530122]<br />
* sumomo: re-wrote [https://stage.support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/Signatures Signatures article]<br />
* sumomo: [https://stage.support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/Thunderbird+3+for+users Thunderbird 3 for users]<br />
* sumomo: [https://stage.support.mozillamessaging.com/en/kb/FAQ+Upgrading+Thunderbird+2+to+3?bl=n upgrade FAQ]<br />
* MozillaZine proposal - draft to Roland<br />
<br />
TODO<br />
<br />
* make page for autoconfig security (http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/topics/security_concerns_over_autoconfiguration_probing?utm_content=topic_link&utm_medium=email&utm_source=new_topic) on MDC; link from sumomo page (notify Blake Winton when done)<br />
* write replacement content for gmail help pages - send to Rafael<br />
* move info on pref naming conventions to MDC: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86845#c74 (notify Roland when done)<br />
* make FAQ for Ludo on information he sent in email ("Model the 2 -> 3 upgrade experience")<br />
* Roland: FAQ on text vs HTML? (http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird/browse_thread/thread/562423bbd2dac0ea)<br />
<br />
Review / Waiting<br />
<br />
* port content from http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/ - ask Roland to redirect<br />
* response to http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.extensions/browse_thread/thread/41113fd2bb4973f7<br />
* when "New in TB 3.0" page is live on sumomo, make redirect from<br />
MDC https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Thunderbird_3_for_users (instructions https://developer.mozilla.org/Project:en/External_Redirects)<br />
<br />
=== Support ===<br />
# [[Thunderbird/Support/Workflow|Draft Support Workflow Document]] - ''NEW'' this week - [[Thunderbird/Support/Workflow#Normal_Users.27_Workflow|Updated Normal Workflow section with a tagging convention for duplicate Get Satisfaction Topics]] <-- Again, feedback please! Edit the page, etc.<br />
# [http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/tags/reviewed20100118 The GS topics that were triaged at the January 18, 2010 meeting]<br />
# [http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/tags/review Issues to be reviewed at the next GS Triage meeting scheduled for January 5, 2010] - Please tag topics "review" if you think they need to be reviewed because they cause customer pain<br />
# SUMO for MoMo aka SuMoMo - [[Thunderbird/Support/SUMO_Project_Plan_Thunderbird3|SuMoMo project plan]] - final round of "meta content", config and sysadmin tasks expected to be done Thursday morning after 3.0.1, hoping to launch Thursday or next week<br />
## GS workaround for SSL and satisfaction search widget doesn't work when logged in so will ping GS but probably have to implement workaround which is to not serve up non SSL Satisfaction Search Widgets to IE 6,7 and 8 users, instead serve just a simple link<br />
## content - done except [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=530116 Thunderbird 3 for Windows 7 users]<br />
# Key Support stats from the following graphic:<br />
## approximately 70/ day (494/7 slightly lower than last week), # of visitors 58000 seems like GS has fixed their stats bug although seems high)<br />
## total new topics:494 (down from last week) total replies:1308 from employees and champions: 137 back to normal! (NonMoMo:109 FROM Michael Pasek (thanks!), 53 from Chris Ramsden aka Xenos (thanks!),27 from Wayne (thanks!), 15 from DavRo (thanks and belated welcome!), 15 from Padyx (thanks and belated welcome!), 11 from matt_678579 (thanks and welcome!), 8 from tanstaafl, 6 from from Kent (Thanks!), MoMo: 37 by Bienvenu (thanks), 33 from Roland, 3 from Blake (thanks!), 24 from Ludo (thanks),14 from Mark Banner (thanks) ([http://gist.github.com/196464 Ruby Code] - '''NEW''' improved with automatic sort)<br />
### date:20100112 #new support topics:83 resolved:14<br />
### date:20100113 #new support topics:81 resolved:36<br />
### date:20100114 #new support topics:73 resolved:16<br />
### date:20100115 #new support topics:77 resolved:17<br />
### date:20100116 #new support topics:64 resolved:10<br />
### date:20100117 #new support topics:63 resolved:14<br />
### date:20100118 #new support topics:85 resolved:33<br />
<br />
[[File:12-18January_2010-Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.png|500px]]<br />
<br />
=== Lightning Updates ===<br />
<br />
=== Roundtable ===<br />
<br />
Ideas to make the meeting more productive :<br />
<br />
* Most people wanting to know dates should find it here and they don't - maybe we could make the planet post from the meeting a bit prettier and easier to read than the half/geeky think that appears on planet.mozilla.org.<br />
* Most people don't know that we have a weekly meeting. Maybe make the meeting more "visible" ?<br />
<br />
Description of UCOSP by bwinton.<br />
<br />
==== Status Updates ====<br />
<br />
===== sid0 =====<br />
<br />
===== davida =====<br />
<br />
===== dmose =====<br />
<br />
===== Standard8 =====<br />
<br />
===== asuth =====<br />
<br />
===== bienvenu =====<br />
* Reviews and driving<br />
* Helped out on Get Satisfaction issues<br />
* Windows installation was corrupted, still recovering from that.<br />
* Got 4GB offline store limit removal patch through review process<br />
<br />
===== gozer =====<br />
<br />
===== clarkbw =====<br />
<br />
===== wsmwk =====<br />
<br />
===== beckley =====<br />
<br />
====== Penelope ======<br />
<br />
* New beta looks good. Little problems reported.<br />
<br />
* Integration of TB 3.0 source code seems to have solved most gloda issues and integration of it in to the Search Messages window is looking likely for our Eudora 8.0 release.<br />
<br />
===== KaiRo =====<br />
* Updated SeaMonkey buildbots to mirror Firefox setup even more closely ({{bug|539780}}), hopefully being able to share this with Thunderbird.<br />
* Checked in patch for a CC* release bustage in buildbotcustom ({{bug|537913}}).<br />
* Switched CC* release automation to using ChatZilla from hg ({{bug|537461}}).<br />
<br />
===== rkent =====<br />
I've been heads down playing with the old Mozilla SOAP package, evaluating it for possible use with Exchange Server web services. I've got it compilable in a TB 3.0 build as a binary extension using frozen linkage, and just started writing unit tests to take it through its paces.<br />
<br />
===== rebron =====<br />
Done<br />
* Partner outreach.<br />
* 3.0.1rc web site work.<br />
* PR team plan/budget.<br />
<br />
Next<br />
* 3.0.1 final web site work<br />
* 3.1 alpha relnotes, etc<br />
* Draft plan for Add-on contest.<br />
* sumomo article bug 530116<br />
<br />
===== Tsk =====<br />
* gave a try at doing support felt frustrated.<br />
* usual stuff<br />
<br />
===== andreasn =====<br />
Done:<br />
* simpler windows icons bug {{bug|539128}} <br />
* smaller info bars {{bug|539416}}<br />
* Mockups for attachments, empty results {{bug|539223}} reciepts {{bug|151244}}<br />
<br />
Todo:<br />
* Personas in Thunderbird {{bug|538335}}<br />
* More Lanikai branding<br />
* Look into search box modes more {{bug|540257}}<br />
* More info bars<br />
<br />
Misc: My mac died :(<br />
<br />
===== bwinton =====<br />
Done:<br />
* Lots of work on the HomeTab extension.<br />
* UCOSP Code Sprint! <br />
<br />
Next:<br />
* Lots more work on the HomeTab extension.<br />
* Fly somewhere nice and warm.<br />
<br />
===== roland =====<br />
<br />
===== sgautherie =====<br />
*Fixed MailNews Core bugs:<br />
**{{bug|538751}} Port | - Failed to build with --enable-dtrace for 64bit library| to comm-central<br />
<br />
===== nth10sd =====<br />
<br />
* Clearing bugmail..<br />
<br />
===== Fallen =====<br />
<br />
===== jcranmer =====<br />
<br />
===== BenB =====<br />
<br />
=== Attendees ===<br />
<br />
__NOTOC__</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2010-01-12&diff=193737Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2010-01-122010-01-12T17:36:12Z<p>Beckley: /* beckley */</p>
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<div><small>[[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2010-01-05|last meeting]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings|index]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2010-01-19|next meeting »]]</small> <br />
<br />
'''Thunderbird Meeting Details'''&nbsp;: <br />
<br />
*[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2010&month=01&day=12&hour=17&min=30&sec=0 Tuesday, January 12th, 17:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern) <br />
*[[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]<br />
<br />
== Agenda ==<br />
<br />
*Who's taking minutes? --&gt; '''Standard8''' <br />
*[http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.<br />
<br />
=== Action Items ===<br />
<br />
==== New ====<br />
<br />
==== Open ====<br />
* Planning for a dry-run security firedrill build<br />
** Standard8: Set up [[Thunderbird/Release_Driving/Firedrills|draft checklist for firedrill actions]]<br />
<br />
==== Closed ====<br />
<br />
=== Friends of the Tree ===<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3.1|Thunderbird 3.1 (Lanikai)]] ===<br />
<br />
* [http://ccgi.standard8.plus.com/blog/archives/322 Lanikai builds] now set up (with new trunk builds).<br />
<br />
===== Schedule =====<br />
Not much in 3.1a1, because it hasn't been driven much. I've posted a message proposing that, in the interest of getting in the habit of doing regular releases, we proceed with the following schedule anyway:<br />
{{:Thunderbird:Thunderbird 3.1a1}}<br />
Are there reasons not to go forward with this?<br />
<br />
===== Lists of Bugs =====<br />
* Blockers <br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/chart.cgi?category=-All-&datefrom=2009-08-19&dateto=&gt=1&label0=TB%20TB%203.1&label1=MC%20TB%203.1&label2=MoMo%20TB%203.1&labelgt=Grand%20Total&line0=1952&line1=1953&line2=1954&name=1183&subcategory=-All-&ctype=png&action=plot&width=400&height=232 3.1 Blocker Chart]<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3.1%2B&sharer_id=112088 blocking-thunderbird3.1+ (includes tb31needs)]: 54 (+2)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3.1%3F&sharer_id=112088 blocking-thunderbird3.1?]: 70 (+7)<br />
<br />
* Fixed Alpha 1<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.1a1 blocking|blocking-thunderbird3.1%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.1a1}}: 5 (+1)<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3.1a1|Thunderbird 3.1a1]] ===<br />
<br />
==== Schedule ====<br />
{{:Thunderbird:Thunderbird 3.1a1}}<br />
<br />
=== Thunderbird 3.0.x Developer Update ===<br />
<br />
* [[Thunderbird/Release_Driving/Maintenance_Release_Checklist|3.0.x Release checklist]] updated<br />
* [http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=Thunderbird3.0 Tinderbox] has links to:<br />
** [[Thunderbird/Thunderbird3_Security_And_Stability_Releases#General_Process_for_landing_bugs_on_Thunderbird_3.0.x|Process for getting bugs into 3.0.x]]<br />
** [[Thunderbird/Thunderbird3_Security_And_Stability_Releases#Status_Tracking|Tracking and Status page]]<br />
<br />
==== [[Releases/Thunderbird_3.0.1|3.0.1]] ====<br />
<br />
* Builds started.<br />
* Beta Period Starts: January 13<br />
* Estimated Release Date: January 20<br />
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?field0-0-0=cf_status_thunderbird30;query_format=advanced;type0-0-0=equals;value0-0-0=.1-fixed Fixed 3.0.1]: 77 (+34)<br />
** 57 actual fixes, the remaining 19 were bugs that landed on the relbranch for 3.0 as well as for 3.0.1.<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20status-thunderbird3.0:.1-fixed%20-kw:verified-thunderbird3.0&order=bugs.bug_id need verification]: 40 (-3)<br />
<br />
==== [[Releases/Thunderbird_3.0.2|3.0.2]] ====<br />
<br />
* Schedule TBD.<br />
* May look to sync with Gecko 1.9.1.8 (builds start Feb 1, release Feb 16).<br />
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20blocking-thunderbird3.0:needed|blocking-thunderbird3.0:.2+%20-status-thunderbird3.0:fixed&order=map_assigned_to.login_name,bugs.bug_id Blockers (needed and .2)]: 27<br />
** Of which [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20blocking-thunderbird3.0:.2+%20-status-thunderbird3.0:.2-fixed&order=map_assigned_to.login_name,bugs.bug_id blocking 3.0.2]: 2<br />
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?field0-0-0=cf_blocking_thunderbird30;query_format=advanced;type0-0-0=equals;value0-0-0=%3F Blocking Nominations]: 4 (-6)<br />
<br />
=== QA Updates ===<br />
<br />
<br />
* Started verifying 3.0.1 Fixed bugs.<br />
** more bugs to verify<br />
** some bugs are difficult to verify pre-release<br />
* smoke testing unsigned builds for 3.0.1 is green on Windows and Mac OS.<br />
<br />
Coming up:<br />
* This week we'll host a [[Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2010-01-14|Triage event ]] - new comers are always welcomed.<br />
* We'll monitor feedback in bugzilla and gs on 3.0.1 during the beta stage.<br />
* and follow release activities<br />
* Next week focus will shift to 3.1a1<br />
* Once 3.0.1 is out The plan is to host a second upgrade from 2.x day - to find and fish out issues not fixed in 3.0.1<br />
<br />
<br> <br />
<br />
{| class="fullwidth-table"<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: rgb(239, 239, 239) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | '''status''' <br />
| style="background: rgb(239, 239, 239) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | '''bug''' <br />
| style="background: rgb(239, 239, 239) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | '''summary''' <br />
| style="background: rgb(239, 239, 239) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | # crash /week<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | Needs verification pending 3.0.1<br />
| {{Bug|505717}} <br />
| EscapeFromSpaceLine(nsIOutputStream*, char*, char const*) <br />
| 1182<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | Wanted 1.9.1 - some progress<br />
| {{Bug|519962}} <br />
| _purecall | nsPrefBranch::freeObserverList() | nsPrefBranch::Observe(nsISupports*, char const*, unsigned short const*) <br />
| 953<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | No signature bug<br> <br />
| <br />
| <br />
| 880 <br />
|-<br />
| style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | Assigned - Not testcase<br />
| {{bug|536960}} <br />
| sqlite3DbMallocRaw <br />
| 834<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | Unassigned - no progress<br />
| {{Bug|505016}} <br />
| _purecall &#124; nsXPCWrappedJS::QueryInterface(nsID const&amp;, void**) <br />
| 777<br />
|}<br />
<br />
=== Marketing Updates ===<br />
* PR Update: [http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Enterprise-Applications/Mozilla-Releases-Firefox-36-Release-Candidate-426899/ Mozilla Rolls Out Firefox 3.6 Release Candidate], [http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/368768/7e5ce21bedd9cf75/ A look at Thunderbird 3]<br />
* Thunderbird 3 Coverage report Total US Numbers November 4th - December 16th, 2009; Total Articles: 224; Total Original: 156; Total Pick ups: 68<br />
* PR planning for Q1<br />
<br />
=== IT update ===<br />
<br />
* Lightning [http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/releases/1.0b1/ 1.0b1]<br />
<br />
=== Documentation ===<br />
<br />
Done<br />
<br />
* sumomo: keyboard shortcuts<br />
* sumomo: bug [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521665 521665] (tweak search KB article)<br />
* sumomo: new in TB 3 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=530122 bug 530122]<br />
* analysis of Sumomo as a platform; comparison to deki wiki (provided to Roland)<br />
* sumomo: autoconfig KB page <br />
* itemize gmail help pages that need to be updated for TB3 (sent to Rafael) <br />
<br />
TODO / In Progress<br />
<br />
* sumomo: manually configuring accounts [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=530122 bug 530122]<br />
* sumomo: sending and receiving [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=530122 bug 530122]<br />
* sumomo: migration assistant [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=530135 bug 530135]<br />
* MozillaZine material / cooperation<br />
<br />
=== Support ===<br />
# [[Thunderbird/Support/Workflow|Draft Support Workflow Document]] - [[Thunderbird/Support/Workflow#GS_Triage|Updated with GS Triage section]] <-- Again, feedback please! Edit the page, etc.<br />
# [http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/tags/reviewed20100111 The GS topics that were triaged at the January 11, 2010 meeting]<br />
# [http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/tags/reviewed Issues to be reviewed at the next GS Triage meeting scheduled for January 18, 2010] - Please tag topics "review" if you think they need to be reviewed because they cause customer pain<br />
# SUMO for MoMo aka SuMoMo - [[Thunderbird/Support/SUMO_Project_Plan_Thunderbird3|SuMoMo project plan]]<br />
## theming live on [http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/tags/reviewed20100111 stage.support.mozillamessaging.com]<br />
## since SuMoMo uses SSL, waiting for GS to give us GS search widget code that we can put on the sidebar that works with SSL, expected a fix before Christmas (not rocket science since since all the GS widgets except the Satisfaction Search widget that we are using allow SSL, followed up with GS developer January 4) - <strike>still no update</strike> - expected tonight 12jan2010, hopefully won't have to implement workaround which is to not serve up non SSL Satisfaction Search Widgets to IE 6,7 and 8 users, instead serve just a simple link<br />
## content - hoping to get some more of JenZed's time and other contributors to finish this week:<br />
### Priority 1 - if edits and drafts from JenZed are done and contributor start and finishes [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=530116 Thunderbird 3 for Windows 7 users], then we will be done this week! <br />
### Priority 2 - if edits and drafts from JenZed are done and contributor starts and finishes [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=530133 Moving from Thunderbird 2 to 3 - 530133], then we will be done this week! <br />
# Key Support stats from the following graphic:<br />
## approximately 85/ day (601/7 back to normal Thunderbird 3.0 levels after the holidays), # of visitors 333,000 seems a like a bug since it's an order of magnitude higher than 30000, will followup with GS)<br />
## total new topics:601 total replies:1423 from employees and champions: 213 back to normal! (NonMoMo:104 from Chris Ramsden aka Xenos (thanks! and belated Welcome!), 47 FROM Michael Pasek (thanks and belated welcome!) MoMo: 77 from Roland, 57 by Bienvenu (thanks), 9 from Andreas (thanks), 31 from Wayne (thanks!), 5 from Blake (thanks!), 1 from Kent (Thanks!), 2 from ClarkBW (thanks), 2 from Ludo (thanks), 9 from Mark Banner (thanks) ([http://gist.github.com/196464 Ruby Code])<br />
### date:20100105 #new support topics:92 resolved:27<br />
### date:20100106 #new support topics:92 resolved:21<br />
### date:20100107 #new support topics:78 resolved:22<br />
### date:20100108 #new support topics:95 resolved:12<br />
### date:20100109 #new support topics:56 resolved:19<br />
### date:20100110 #new support topics:47 resolved:3<br />
### date:20100111 #new support topics:74 resolved:14<br />
<br />
[[File:05-11January_2010_-_Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.png|500px]]<br />
<br />
=== Lightning Updates ===<br />
* lightning was uploaded to AMO <br />
* Google Provider will follow this evening<br />
* Sunbird still waiting for l10n<br />
* Release blog post alsi comming up<br />
<br />
=== Roundtable ===<br />
<br />
==== Status Updates ====<br />
<br />
===== sid0 =====<br />
<br />
===== davida =====<br />
<br />
===== dmose =====<br />
* Last week<br />
** Got back from vacation<br />
** Found and worked with support folks on email bug in GetSat messages<br />
** Started getting caught up<br />
** Got sick<br />
** Reviewed and landed 3.0.1 extension menu patch<br />
** Fixed 3.0.1 toolbar overflow bug<br />
** Drafted and floated automated testing announcement<br />
** 3.1a1 driving<br />
* This week<br />
** Goals work in Vancouver<br />
** 3.1a1 driving<br />
** Catch up on board minutes<br />
<br />
===== Standard8 =====<br />
<br />
* 3.0.1 driving, bug fixes, reviews and pushing to being release.<br />
* Updated checklists following comments from drivers.<br />
* Testing Infrastructure component now set up.<br />
* Fixed some l10n issues on trunk & Lanikai branch.<br />
<br />
===== asuth =====<br />
<br />
===== bienvenu =====<br />
* reviews & driving<br />
* Landed a bunch of fixes for 3.01<br />
* fix {{bug|534835}}, when fetching whole imap message, use the literal size as the message size in case the server gets the rfc822.size wrong consistently, to avoid refetching the same message over and over again.<br />
* try to recover data downloaded to local folders-1 account by 3.0 upgrade from 2.0, {{bug|538414}}.<br />
* Fixed {{bug|382298}} Forwarded icon not shown up in IMAP account <br />
* Fixed {{bug|533865}}, doing quick search in saved search/smart folder clears cached results.<br />
* Fixed imap unread counts with condstore servers, {{bug|517461}}<br />
* Fixed {{bug|534382}}, tb 2 profiles with multiple local folder accounts get one of them turned into smart mailboxes, which messes up pop3 download, remove code that cause problem, and fix deferral to point back to local folders.<br />
* Don't do quick searches or views online unless we have to, {{bug|537820}}<br />
<br />
===== gozer =====<br />
<br />
''Back from offline vacation''<br />
<br />
* Catching up on e-mail<br />
* Thunderbird 3.0.1 build<br />
<br />
===== clarkbw =====<br />
<br />
===== wsmwk =====<br />
<br />
* shepherding #1 crash {{Bug|519962}} - startup crash [@ nsPrefBranch::Observe ... - which is making progress, but far from being fixed.<br />
* shepherding IME crash {{Bug|537828}} - crash [@ nsAString_internal::Assign ... - which seems close to being fixed thanks largely to masayuk and fehe<br />
* continued focus on hang, perf and crashes in bugs, gsfn and fora<br />
* worked part of the verify list for 3.0.1 fixed<br />
<br />
===== beckley =====<br />
<br />
====== Penelope ======<br />
<br />
* Eudora 8b8 [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Eudora_Releases released]<br />
* Next beta will try to get gloda integration with Search Messages window<br />
<br />
===== KaiRo =====<br />
<br />
===== rkent =====<br />
<br />
===== rebron =====<br />
<br />
Done: <br />
<br />
* GS triage process/weekly meetings started<br> * Mozilla Marketing Community meeting. Notes: http://www.spreadfirefox.com/node/5574<br> * More PR planning work.<br> * Goals/prelim marketing budget<br><br />
<br />
Next: <br />
<br />
* Tb 3.0.1 pages, finish up. bug 538973<br> * Snippet localization<br> * Add-on contest spec out.<br> * sumomo article bug 530116<br><br />
<br />
===== Tsk =====<br />
Done :<br />
* reading bugmail<br />
* bug triage day<br />
* 3.0.1 testing<br />
* started collected software vendors to contact for releases.<br />
<br />
todo:<br />
* more 3.0.1 testing<br />
* 3.1a1 preparation.<br />
<br />
===== andreasn =====<br />
Done:<br />
* Lanakai branding {{bug|535209}}<br />
* Shredder branding {{bug|433630}}<br />
* Folder pane bug {{bug|535021}}<br />
* Travel booking stuff<br />
<br />
Next:<br />
* Personas in Thunderbird {{bug|538335}}<br />
* collapse the toolbar on an ugly manner on OS X {{bug|533342}}<br />
* simpler windows icons {{bug|539128}}<br />
* return receipt should be processed after the message has loaded {{bug|151244}}<br />
* hardcoded colors invisible with some gtk themes {{bug|469300}}<br />
<br />
===== bwinton =====<br />
Done:<br />
* Book flights, and a hotel.<br />
* Create {{bug|538568}}.<br />
* Review {{bug|538923}}.<br />
* Check in {{bug|536546}}, {{bug|524045}}, {{bug|516586}}, {{bug|536245}}, and {{bug|538568}} on trunk.<br />
* Check in {{bug|398072}}, {{bug|528039}}, {{bug|516586}}, {{bug|537820}}, {{bug|461152}}, {{bug|531794}}, {{bug|534641}}, {{bug|536245}}, and {{bug|538568}} on comm-1.9.1<br />
* Answer questions in Get Satisfaction.<br />
* More new employee administrivia.<br />
<br />
Next:<br />
* Bug DavidA to review some ISPDB patches.<br />
* More work on the netbook and reply-mode-toggle addons.<br />
* Help the students dig into their bugs in the Code Sprint.<br />
<br />
===== roland =====<br />
<br />
===== sgautherie =====<br />
*Fixed MailNews Core bugs:<br />
**{{bug|536404}} When composing an S/MIME encrypted email, no padlock is shown at bottom right of window<br />
**{{bug|537874}} Port bug 528263 and bug 529441 to comm-central<br />
**{{bug|538745}} Port |Bug 532645 - Upgrade libpng to version 1.4.0| to comm-central<br />
<br />
===== nth10sd =====<br />
<br />
===== Fallen =====<br />
<br />
===== jcranmer =====<br />
<br />
===== BenB =====<br />
<br />
=== Attendees ===<br />
<br />
__NOTOC__</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Eudora_Releases&diff=192477Eudora Releases2010-01-06T07:19:36Z<p>Beckley: Eudora 8 beta 8 release</p>
<hr />
<div>'''Eudora 8''' is an email client that combines Mozilla's [[Thunderbird]] with code, features, and GUI elements from Qualcomm's Eudora.<br />
<br />
== Eudora 8.0b8 (5 Jan 2010) ==<br />
<br />
The latest beta release of Eudora, version 8.0b8 (which includes the [[Penelope]] extension) is now available for download. Use the links below to download. Please see the README for information on how to submit bug reports and new feature requests.<br />
<br />
Eudora 8.0b8 is based on the Thunderbird 3.0b4 source code, so add-ons that do not work with Thunderbird 3.0b4 likely will not work with this beta version.<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b8/Eudora-8.0b8.en-US.win32.installer.exe Windows installer]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b8/Eudora-8.0b8.en-US.mac.dmg Mac disk image]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b8/Eudora-8.0b8.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2 Linux tar file]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b8/README.txt README]<br />
<br />
=== Installation Note ===<br />
<br />
Windows users upgrading from Penelope 0.1a19 have things pretty easy, but there's an extra step: uninstall Thunderbird, install Eudora 8, start Eudora, go into the Tools/Add-ons menu item and uninstall Penelope a19. Upon restarting Eudora the version of Penelope that came with it will automatically be reinstalled.<br />
<br />
NOTE: many add-ons that worked with Eudora beta 1 won't work with beta 2 (or later, as of 2/8/08). It's a smart idea to do a full backup of all your mailboxes and preferences files before doing the upgrade, as "in place" upgrades may have problems.<br />
<br />
== Previous Versions ==<br />
<br />
=== Eudora 8.0b7 (4 Sep 2009) ===<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b7/Eudora-8.0b7.en-US.win32.installer.exe Windows installer]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b7/Eudora-8.0b7.en-US.mac.dmg Mac disk image]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b7/Eudora-8.0b7.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2 Linux tar file]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b7/README.txt README]<br />
<br />
=== Eudora 8.0b6 (8 Apr 2009) ===<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b6/Eudora-8.0b6.en-US.win32.installer.exe Windows installer]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b6/Eudora-8.0b6.en-US.mac.dmg Mac disk image]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b6/Eudora-8.0b6.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2 Linux tar file]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b6/README.txt README]<br />
<br />
=== Eudora 8.0.0b5 (16 Jan 2009) ===<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b5/Eudora-8.0.0b5.en-US.win32.installer.exe Windows installer]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b5/Eudora-8.0.0b5.en-US.mac.dmg Mac disk image]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b5/Eudora-8.0.0b5.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2 Linux tar file]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b5/README.txt README]<br />
<br />
=== Eudora 8.0.0b4 (03 Nov 2008) ===<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b4/Eudora-8.0.0b4.en-US.win32.installer.exe Windows installer]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b4/Eudora-8.0.0b4.en-US.mac.dmg Mac disk image]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b4/Eudora-8.0.0b4.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2 Linux tar file]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b4/ReadMe.txt ReadMe]<br />
<br />
=== Eudora 8.0.0b3 (22 Feb 2008) ===<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/windows/8.0/Eudora-8.0.0b3.en-US.win32.installer.exe Windows installer]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/mac/8.0/Eudora-8.0.0b3.en-US.mac.dmg Mac disk image]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/linux/8.0/Eudora-8.0.0b3.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2 Linux tar file]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b3/RelNotes.txt ReadMe]<br />
<br />
=== Eudora 8.0.0b2 (17 Dec 2007) ===<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/windows/8.0/Eudora-8.0.0b2.en-US.win32.installer.exe Windows installer]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/mac/8.0/Eudora-8.0.0b2.en-US.mac.dmg Mac disk image]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b2/RelNotes.txt ReadMe]<br />
<br />
=== Eudora 8.0.0b1 ===<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/windows/8.0/Eudora-8.0.0b1.en-US.win32.installer.exe Windows installer]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/windows/8.0/ReadMe.txt Windows ReadMe]<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/mac/8.0/Eudora-8.0.0b1.en-US.mac.dmg Mac disk image]<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/mac/8.0/ReadMe.txt Mac ReadMe]</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Penelope_Extensions&diff=192476Penelope Extensions2010-01-06T07:07:37Z<p>Beckley: Penelope 0.5 alpha 5 release</p>
<hr />
<div>== Penelope Extension Alpha 0.5 Releases ==<br />
<br />
The Penelope extension works with Thunderbird 3.0b4 or higher. For more information about Penelope see the [[Penelope|main wiki page]].<br />
<br />
The current version of Penelope is [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b8/penelope-0.5a5.xpi 0.5a5]. However, it is recommended that you use a version of Penelope that comes with a [[Eudora Releases|Eudora 8 release]] to ensure maximum compatibility.<br />
<br />
This release addresses a number of issues with automatic message selection and focus in mailboxes. See the [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b8/README.txt Eudora release notes] for more details. <br />
<br />
&raquo; Note to Firefox users:<br />
When you click a link to an XPI file, Firefox thinks you are trying to install an extension to Firefox and brings up the install dialog. This is not going to work. Instead, Right-click on the links for the extension and save to disk, then install from within Thunderbird's Tools->Add-ons window.<br />
<br />
&raquo; Note to Safari users: <br />
When you click on the http link, Safari may try to load the XPI file as plain text. To avoid this, right-click (or control-click) on it and select Download Linked File from the contextual menu.<br />
<br />
=== Previous Versions ===<br />
<br />
Previous versions of Penelope are available:<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b7/penelope-0.5a4.xpi 0.5a4]<br />
** This release addresses a number of issues that arose with under-the-hood changes to Thunderbird in version 3.0b3, especially involving mailbox display and tabs.<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b6/penelope-0.5a3.xpi 0.5a3]<br />
** This release adds a number of new features and bug fixes around mailbox and message tabs and the customize toolbar dialog.<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b5/penelope-0.5a2.xpi 0.5a2]<br>Main new features:<br />
** Various tab additions/improvements<br />
** Added shift key modifier to the Transfer menu items and toolbar buttons to do copy vs. move.<br />
** Holding down alt/option when clicking on an open mailbox toolbar button will now do a transfer.<br />
** "Show message preview pane" setting added to Penelope pref panel. If on (which it is by default), then the preview pane is shown at its last saved position. If it's off then both the preview pane and the splitter before it are hidden.<br />
<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b4/penelope-0.5a1.xpi 0.5a1]<br>Main new features:<br />
** Classic Eudora Redirect feature added<br />
** Open windows saved between sessions<br />
** Mailboxes that receive new messages are automatically opened<br />
** Opened mailboxes automatically select a recent unread message<br />
** Mailbox window font name and size prefs<br />
<br />
* [http://www.eudora.com/download/penelope/penelope-0.1a22.xpi 0.1a22]<br>The main thrust of the changes was to make the extension more compatible with Thunderbird 3.0 (trunk) versions. There are a number of minor changes as well:<br />
** Auto-compaction was turned on by default, and is set to a threshold of 10 MB.<br />
** Hitting space to go through unread messages is now fixed.<br />
** Ctrl/Cmd+M now mapped to Mail Check instead of New Message.<br />
** Junk, Not Junk, Delete menu items fixed.<br />
** Junk, Not Junk shortcuts (Ctrl/Cmd + [Shift] + J) fixed.<br />
** "Make Address Book Entry" menu item now in correct spot in Tools menu (Mac only).<br />
** Empty menu items in Tools menu removed.<br />
** Customize Toolbar dialog fixed under Mac and general UI improvements including moving strings to localizable files.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.eudora.com/penelope/penelope-0.1a19.xpi 0.1a19]<br />
* [http://www.eudora.com/penelope/penelope-0.1a16.xpi 0.1a16]: fixes errors on the javascript console and makes the Penelope extension compatible with addons.mozilla.org.<br />
<br />
=== Eudora ===<br />
<br />
Installers for the new versions of Eudora based on Thunderbird can be found on the [[Eudora Releases]] page. These installers also include Penelope in them.</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2010-01-05&diff=192207Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2010-01-052010-01-05T17:30:54Z<p>Beckley: /* beckley */</p>
<hr />
<div><small>[[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-12-22|last meeting]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings|index]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2010-01-12|next meeting »]]</small> <br />
<br />
'''Thunderbird Meeting Details'''&nbsp;: <br />
<br />
*[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2010&month=01&day=05&hour=17&min=30&sec=0 Tuesday, January 5th, 17:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern) <br />
*[[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]<br />
<br />
== Agenda ==<br />
<br />
*Who's taking minutes? --&gt; '''clarkbw''' <br />
*[http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.<br />
<br />
=== Action Items ===<br />
<br />
==== New ====<br />
<br />
==== Open ====<br />
* Planning for a dry-run security firedrill build<br />
** Standard8 to set up checklists, with luck will be able to drive this early Jan.<br />
<br />
==== Closed ====<br />
<br />
=== Friends of the Tree ===<br />
* Wayne Mery for the astounding work he's been doing in 2009 in triaging bugs, filling crashers.<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3.1|Thunderbird 3.1 (Lanikai)]] ===<br />
<br />
* [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3.1|The schedule]] is still in a bit of flux, but mostly right. Feedback requested.<br />
<br />
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/chart.cgi?category=-All-&datefrom=2009-08-19&dateto=&gt=1&label0=TB%20TB%203.1&label1=MC%20TB%203.1&label2=MoMo%20TB%203.1&labelgt=Grand%20Total&line0=1952&line1=1953&line2=1954&name=1183&subcategory=-All-&ctype=png&action=plot&width=400&height=232 3.1 Blocker Chart]<br />
<br />
* Blockers <br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3.1%2B&sharer_id=112088 blocking-thunderbird3.1+ (includes tb31needs)]: 52 (+1)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3.1%3F&sharer_id=112088 blocking-thunderbird3.1?]: 63 (+5)<br />
<br />
* Fixed Alpha 1<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.1a1 blocking|blocking-thunderbird3.1%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.1a1}}: 4 (0)<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3.1a1|Thunderbird 3.1a1]] ===<br />
<br />
==== Schedule ====<br />
{{:Thunderbird:Thunderbird 3.1a1}}<br />
<br />
=== Thunderbird 3.0.x Developer Update ===<br />
<br />
* [[Releases/Thunderbird_3.0.1|3.0.1]]<br />
** Aiming to base off of Gecko 1.9.1.7<br />
** Schedule Highlights:<br />
** Code Freeze: January 8, 2010, 11:59pm<br />
** Beta Period: January 13<br />
** Estimated Release Date: January 20<br />
<br />
* [http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=Thunderbird3.0 Tinderbox] has links to:<br />
** [[Thunderbird/Thunderbird3_Security_And_Stability_Releases#General_Process_for_landing_bugs_on_Thunderbird_3.0.x|Process for getting bugs into 3.0.x]]<br />
** [[Thunderbird/Thunderbird3_Security_And_Stability_Releases#Status_Tracking|Tracking and Status page]]<br />
<br />
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?field0-0-0=cf_blocking_thunderbird30;query_format=advanced;type0-0-0=equals;value0-0-0=%3F Blocking Nominations]: 12 (-3)<br />
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20blocking-thunderbird3.0:needed%20-status-thunderbird3.0:fixed&order=map_assigned_to.login_name,bugs.bug_id Blockers (needed)]: 17 (+6)<br />
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20blocking-thunderbird3.0:.1+%20-status-thunderbird3.0:.1-fixed&order=map_assigned_to.login_name,bugs.bug_id Blocking 3.0.1]: 20 (-2)<br />
* Of which:<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20blocking-thunderbird3.0:.1+%20-status-thunderbird3.0:.1-fixed%20-flag:approval-thunderbird3.0.1%2B%20-flag:approval-thunderbird3.0.1%3F&order=map_assigned_to.login_name,bugs.bug_id waiting branch patch] (or approval flag setting): 16 (-1)<br />
<br />
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?field0-0-0=cf_status_thunderbird30;query_format=advanced;type0-0-0=equals;value0-0-0=.1-fixed Fixed 3.0.1]: 43 (+12)<br />
** Of which [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20status-thunderbird3.0:.1-fixed%20-kw:verified-thunderbird3.0&order=bugs.bug_id need verification]: 43 (+12)<br />
<br />
=== QA Updates ===<br />
* Xmas, new year period was slower with bug input.<br />
* Having the first triage day of this year, this [[Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2010-01-07|coming Thursday]]<br />
* [[Thunderbird:Testing/wip|Working]] with Sun's QA people to add litmus test to cover the new account manager.<br />
<br />
* Planned for the coming weeks :<br />
** Reorganize the QA wiki pages<br />
** Tests for 3.0.1<br />
** Planning for 3.1a1<br />
<br />
Crashers<br />
* only 1 of our top 5 crashes received significant attention in last 30-40 days - outlook seems bleak for getting these into 3.0.1, perhaps even 3.0.2<br />
* brief analysis of crashes by component, top 100 = 53% of crashes<br />
** 6% - no stack in the report<br />
** 19% oom and the like, so cause is unclear<br />
** 28% core<br />
** 5% extensions<br />
** 14% storage<br />
** 27% thunderbird<br />
<br />
=== Marketing Updates ===<br />
* PR Update: [http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/12/mozilla-messaging-building-nest-for-thunderbird-31.ars Mozilla Messaging building nest for Thunderbird 3.1], [http://gigaom.com/2009/12/31/mozilla-raindrop-aims-to-solve-message-glut-in-2010/?utm_source=gigaom&utm_medium=navigation Mozilla Raindrop Aims to Solve Message Glut in 2010]<br />
* [http://www.spreadfirefox.com/node/5565 Mozilla Community Marketing meeting] first of the year, happens bi-weekly<br />
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Fosdem:2010 FOSDEM]<br />
<br />
=== IT update ===<br />
<br />
=== Documentation ===<br />
<br />
Done<br />
<br />
* holidays<br />
* sumomo: [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=530115 Message Archiving]<br />
* [http://developer.mozilla.org/en/Thunderbird_3.1_for_developers TB 3.0 for Developers]<br />
<br />
TODO / In Progress<br />
<br />
* sumomo: [https://stage.support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/Keyboard+shortcuts?bl=n keyboard shortcuts]<br />
* support doc locations [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521665 521665] (port as relevant - talk to Roland about redirects)<br />
* sumomo: [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521665 bug 521665]<br />
<br />
=== Support ===<br />
# [[Thunderbird/Support/Workflow|Draft Support Workflow Document]] <-- Feedback please! Edit the page, etc.<br />
# [[Thunderbird/Thunderbird3.0SupportIssues|Thunderbird 3.0 Top Support Issues]] <- please add support issues to this page, or let me know! <b>new this week</b>:<br />
## Bullguard Anti-Virus causes blank windows - [http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/topics/not_responding-12055 GS topic], [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=537769 Bug 537769] <br />
## Add-Ons:<br />
### Expanded Columns e.g. for IMAP size - missing from folder Pane - workaround: use extra folder columns add-on - [http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/topics/expanded_columns_missing_from_tb3 GS topic], [bug] <br />
### [http://nic-nac-project.de/~kaosmos/morecols-en.htmlMore Functions for Address book] aka MoreColsForAddressBook - need to uninstall TB 2 version and install TB 3 version (confusingly both TB2 and 3 versions have the same version number!) - [http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/topics/expanded_columns_missing_from_tb3 GS topic], [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=533903 bug 533903]<br />
# SUMO for MoMo aka SuMoMo - [[Thunderbird/Support/SUMO_Project_Plan_Thunderbird3|SuMoMo project plan]]<br />
## theming done but awaiting SSL widget code from GS & Gozer push of theming SVN updates<br />
## since SuMoMo uses SSL, waiting for GS to give us GS search widget code that we can put on the sidebar that works with SSL, expected a fix before Christmas (not rocket science since since all the GS widgets except the Satisfaction Search widget that we are using allow SSL, followed up with GS developer January 4)<br />
## content - hoping to get some more of JenZed's time and other volunteers to finish in the next two weeks:<br />
### Priority 1 - total 7 of which 3 need final editing, 1 in progress, 3 more to be written<br />
### Priority 2 - total 4 of which: 1 done needs final editing, 3 more left to be written <br />
# Key Support stats from the following graphic:<br />
## approximately 66/ day (466/7 new topics down because of the holidays), # of visitors 21000 a bit lower for the holidays, down from peak of 35000)<br />
## total new topics:466 total replies from employees and contributors: 97 down due to holidays thanks everybody who took time to help during the holidays! ([http://gist.github.com/196464 Ruby Code])<br />
### date:20091229 #new support topics:72 resolved:16<br />
### date:20091230 #new support topics:55 resolved:11<br />
### date:20091231 #new support topics:53 resolved:17<br />
### date:20100101 #new support topics:60 resolved:15<br />
### date:20100102 #new support topics:55 resolved:13<br />
### date:20100103 #new support topics:36 resolved:11<br />
### date:20100104 #new support topics:68 resolved:16<br />
<br />
[[File:29Dec2009-04Jan2010-Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging-1.png|500px]]<br />
<br />
=== Roundtable ===<br />
<br />
==== Status Updates ====<br />
<br />
===== sid0 =====<br />
<br />
===== davida =====<br />
<br />
===== dmose =====<br />
Last week:<br />
* vacation<br />
This week:<br />
* catch up with email<br />
* 3.0.1 coding/review work<br />
* 3.1a1 driving<br />
<br />
===== Standard8 =====<br />
<br />
===== asuth =====<br />
<br />
===== bienvenu =====<br />
* Reviews and Driving<br />
* Reset flag state when selecting new folder, fixes issues with condstore servers, {{bug|524902}}<br />
* Fix archiving of messages in multiple years, and add mozmill test for archiving, {{bug|531829}}<br />
* Worked on other 3.01 fixes<br />
<br />
===== gozer =====<br />
<br />
===== clarkbw =====<br />
<br />
===== wsmwk =====<br />
* filed [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?bugidtype=include;bug_id=536614%2C536799%2C536800%2C536802%2C536828%2C536878%2C537017%2C537018%2C537022%2C537026%2C537028%2C537063%2C537033%2C536815%2C537407%2C537404%2C536805%2C536806%2C537815%2C537822%2C537828%2C537835%2C536960;query_format=advanced 23 crashes]<br />
* took a spin through ldap bugs<br />
* retriaged dataloss bugs<br />
* triaging incoming crash bug reports<br />
<br />
===== beckley =====<br />
<br />
====== Penelope ======<br />
<br />
* Wanted to release Eudora 8 beta 8 today, but build symbols are not cooperating<br />
* Will be out at CES rest of week<br />
* E8b8 release likely early next week<br />
<br />
===== KaiRo =====<br />
<br />
===== rkent =====<br />
<br />
===== rebron =====<br />
Last week<br />
* vacation<br />
* setup GS triage meetings for Mondays at 10am PST<br />
<br />
This week<br />
* Get a handle on 3.0.1<br />
* Contracts for PR, GS, web site. <br />
* Party planning<br />
<br />
===== Tsk =====<br />
This week :<br />
* Catching up on bugmail<br />
* Prepare 3.0.1 testing and 3.1a1 testing<br />
* Regular event<br />
<br />
===== andreasn =====<br />
<br />
===== bwinton =====<br />
Last week:<br />
* Took vacation.<br />
* Reviewed {{bug|534582}}, and {{bug|537649}}.<br />
* Read the Employee Manual.<br />
<br />
This week:<br />
* Work on my 3.0.x blockers. ({{bug|534448}} and {{bug|533680}}.)<br />
* More NetBook work.<br />
* Answer more GetSatisfaction questions.<br />
<br />
===== roland =====<br />
<br />
===== sgautherie =====<br />
*Fixed (<i>or in-progress</i>) MailNews Core bugs:<br />
**{{bug|442730}} composition security options for encrypt should only be one menu item (with checkbox) like signing<br />
**{{bug|523820}} Remove old MOZILLA_1_9_1_BRANCH ifdefs from comm-central code<br />
**{{bug|536136}} Port |Bug 515792 - build system runs identical 'hg identify' command too many times| to comm-central<br />
**<i>{{bug|456860}} Improve msgCompSMIMEOverlay.js and msgReadSMIMEOverlay.js</i><br />
**<i>{{bug|536408}} Update license blocks to use "Mozilla Foundation" instead of "Mozilla Corporation", comm-central part</i><br />
<br />
===== nth10sd =====<br />
<br />
===== Fallen =====<br />
<br />
===== jcranmer =====<br />
<br />
===== BenB =====<br />
<br />
=== Attendees ===<br />
<br />
__NOTOC__</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Penelope_Developer_Page&diff=190668Penelope Developer Page2009-12-22T00:58:52Z<p>Beckley: Added note about latest Linux OS versions and potential incompatibilities with older runtime versions</p>
<hr />
<div>== Building Penelope ==<br />
<br />
Start to become familiar with the process by building Thunderbird. Go [http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Build_Documentation fetch and build] Thunderbird. Start learning how it works. <br />
<br />
<br />
=== Linux ===<br />
<br />
These were the steps followed to build Thunderbird 3.0 and Penelope from comm-central on Linux.<br />
These instructions assume an up-to-date Linux machine. The machine I used is running Gentoo Linux 2006.1. Note that using the latest versions of OSes can be problematic due to dev libraries that are not compatible with older runtime versions. For example, Ubuntu 9.10 includes version 2.18 of libgtk which is incompatible with older runtime versions, and so it is recommended to use Ubuntu 8.04 LTS for a build environment.<br />
<br />
More Thunderbird Linux build details can be found at [http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Linux_Build_Prerequisites developer.mozilla.org]<br />
<br />
* Be sure that your <code>umask</code> is set to 022. If it's not then lots of things will break. You need to set it to 022 '''''before''''' you grab the source.<br />
<br />
* Create a new directory, call it <code>src</code><br />
<br />
* hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/ src<br />
<br />
* cd src<br />
<br />
* python client.py checkout<br />
<br />
* cd mozilla/extensions<br />
<br />
* mkdir penelope<br />
<br />
* hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/penelope/ penelope<br />
<br />
* Create ~/.mozconfig with:<br />
<br />
mk_add_options MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS=-j4<br />
mk_add_options MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS=-w<br />
mk_add_options MOZ_OBJDIR=@TOPSRCDIR@/../bin/debug<br />
<br />
ac_add_options --enable-application=mail<br />
<br />
ac_add_options --enable-default-toolkit=gtk2<br />
ac_add_options --enable-xft<br />
<br />
ac_add_options --disable-optimize<br />
ac_add_options --enable-debug<br />
ac_add_options --disable-static --enable-shared<br />
ac_add_options --disable-installer<br />
ac_add_options --disable-tests<br />
<br />
ac_add_options --enable-extensions=default,penelope,inspector<br />
<br />
Note that it is this last line that includes the building of the Penelope extension in the main build. You don't technically need the "inspector" (DOM Inspector) extension, but it's nice to have if you need to debug DOM issues.<br />
<br />
* make -f client.mk build<br />
<br />
* Go get breakfast/lunch/dinner because it takes a while to do a full compile.<br />
<br />
=== OS X ===<br />
<br />
The steps to build Penelope from comm-central on OS X are almost identical to the instructions for Linux. There are may caveats depending on whether you want a universal binary, which version of OS X you have, which version you want to target, etc.<br />
More Thunderbird OS X build details can be found at [http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Mac_OS_X_Build_Prerequisites developer.mozilla.org].<br />
<br />
The only deviation from the Linux directions is the installation of LibIDL and GLib, and contents of the ~/.mozconfig file.<br />
<br />
* Install LibIDL (via orbit) and GLib using fink:<br />
<br />
$ sudo apt-get update<br />
$ sudo apt-get install orbit orbit-dev glib<br />
<br />
* Create ~/.mozconfig with:<br />
<br />
mk_add_options MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS=-j4<br />
mk_add_options MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS=-w<br />
mk_add_options MOZ_OBJDIR=@TOPSRCDIR@/../bin/debug<br />
<br />
ac_add_options --enable-application=mail<br />
<br />
ac_add_options --with-macos-sdk=/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk<br />
ac_add_options ppc --enable-prebinding<br />
<br />
ac_add_options --disable-optimize<br />
ac_add_options --enable-debug<br />
ac_add_options --disable-static --enable-shared<br />
ac_add_options --disable-installer<br />
ac_add_options --disable-tests<br />
<br />
ac_add_options --enable-extensions=default,penelope,inspector<br />
<br />
==== Making universal binary builds on OS X ====<br />
<br />
[http://developer.apple.com/transition/ Universal binaries] are executables for Mac OSX that contain both PowerPC and Intel processor binaries. That way you can distribute just one application and installer that will work on both types of processors.<br />
<br />
Be sure that you can successfully build for just one processor using the steps above. That way you won't be confused if a problem arises and not know whether the issue is with building in general, or with universal binaries in particular.<br />
<br />
The Mozilla Developer center has some [http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Mac_OS_X_Universal_Binaries documentation] that you will need to follow. In particular there are a couple of things worth pointing out as they can cause problems if not set up correctly:<br />
<br />
* Make sure you have at least version 2.4.1 of [http://developer.apple.com/tools/xcode Xcode] due to a [http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Mac_OS_X_Build_Prerequisites#Troubleshooting bug] in Xcode 2.4. You have to be a [http://developer.apple.com/membership Apple Developer Connection member], but that's free and only requires a valid email address.<br />
* Install the 10.4 SDK from the Xcode disk image. If you've already installed Xcode, then you can easily add the 10.4 SDK by running the CrossDevelopment.mpkg package from the Packages folder of the Xcode disk image. The 10.4 SDK doesn't get installed by default, so you'll have to do a "Customize" install and select the 10.4 SDK.<br />
* You must use the <code>MOZ_OBJDIR</code> option in your <code>.mozconfig</code> file in order to place the generated files outside of your mozilla source tree. This is because both PPC and Intel binaries need to be created and must be kept separate. The build process will create two directories (<code>ppc</code> and <code>i386</code>) in your <code>MOZ_OBJDIR</code> directory, and the universal build will be placed in <code>ppc/dist/universal</code> with a symbolic link at <code>i386/dist/universal</code>.<br />
* Last you need to add these lines to your .mozconfig:<br />
if test -e "$topsrcdir/mozilla/build/macosx/universal/mozconfig"; then<br />
. $topsrcdir/mozilla/build/macosx/universal/mozconfig<br />
else<br />
. $topsrcdir/build/macosx/universal/mozconfig<br />
fi<br />
<br />
=== Windows ===<br />
<br />
See the steps above under Linux for how to get the source code via comm-central.<br />
<br />
Penelope is back to using the trunk version of the Mozilla platform, which uses the MozillaBuild environment. Make sure you go through in detail the [http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Windows_Build_Prerequisites setup documentation]. It's pretty simple to set up with MozillaBuild now. You just download the package and the installer gives you all the right versions of the tools you need to build. You have to use their MINGW32 shell (which is basically bash) in order for it to compile correctly. It's easiest just to use their batch files for starting up the shell and getting the environment set up right. I've only tried it with Visual Studio 2005 (the official version of VS for the trunk), which has a corresponding batch file of start-msvc8.bat.<br />
<br />
Here's the options for your ~/.mozconfig file in order to make a debug build:<br />
<br />
mk_add_options MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS=-j4<br />
mk_add_options MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS=-w<br />
mk_add_options MOZ_OBJDIR=@TOPSRCDIR@/../bin/debug<br />
<br />
ac_add_options --enable-application=mail<br />
<br />
ac_add_options --disable-optimize <br />
ac_add_options --enable-debug<br />
ac_add_options --disable-static --enable-shared<br />
ac_add_options --disable-installer<br />
ac_add_options --disable-tests<br />
<br />
ac_add_options --enable-extensions=default,penelope,inspector<br />
<br />
Finally, go to the root of the source tree and do a:<br />
<br />
* make -f client.mk build<br />
<br />
For some reason the executable that winds up being built can't be launched from a MINGW32 shell. If you try to launch it it fails to initialize some components and gives up. You have to launch it from a different shell to get it to start up properly.<br />
<br />
==== Windows Vista ====<br />
<br />
Windows Vista provides some roadblocks in compiling Penelope. The first is the new security model. By default, administrator accounts under Vista run applications at a reduced privilege level called Standard User. Microsoft found that the most common legitimate reason to need administrator rights was when installing an application, and in order for all the existing installation programs to work under Vista they had to come up with a heuristic workaround. What Vista does is automatically attempt to elevate the privilege of any application that has the words "install" or "setup" in the name of the executable filename. I say "attempt" because there appear to be some situations where the privilege elevation fails, and one of those happens to be when called inside of scripts. I think it has to do with the way the process is created (privilege elevation happens when you call ShellExecute(), but not when CreateProcess() is used), but I'm not sure of that entirely because I don't know how MINGW32 shells start up new processes.<br />
<br />
And wouldn't you know it, one of the utilities used to compile Penelope falls in to this heuristic: nsinstall.exe. All that command-line tool really does is copy some files, which doesn't require Administrator privileges as long as you have have write access to the destination directory, but Vista's automatic privilege elevation thinks it might due to the name. The privilege elevation fails and so the build fails. Happy, happy, joy, joy.<br />
<br />
There's two current workarounds. One is that the Command Prompt window that you use to compile Penelope can be run as Administrator. You can create a shortcut setting that up (its in the Properties, Compatibility tab), or you can right-click on a link to a Command Prompt (e.g. one that shows up on the Start menu) and select "Run as Administrator". This is an unsatisfying solution because it raises the privilege level unnecessarily, but it does work. It does happen to solve other permission-related issues with files in general, so it is an easy way to fix the problem. It's also no different than the security model of Windows before Vista (well, at least the way that most people set it up, which is to run as Administrator all of the time).<br />
<br />
The other way is to tell Vista that the app doesn't really need Administrator privileges. You can do this via a manifest file, which is an XML file which has properties about the application. It has the same name as the executable (including the ".exe"), but with an extra extension of ".manifest" to it. The manifest file contents should look like this:<br />
<br />
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?><br />
<assembly xmlns="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:asm.v1" manifestVersion="1.0"><br />
<assemblyIdentity version="1.0.0.0"<br />
processorArchitecture="X86"<br />
name="nsinstall"<br />
type="win32"/><br />
<br />
<br />
<description>Description of your application</description><br />
<!-- Identify the application security requirements. --><br />
<trustInfo xmlns="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:asm.v3"><br />
<security><br />
<requestedPrivileges><br />
<requestedExecutionLevel<br />
level="asInvoker"<br />
uiAccess="false"/><br />
</requestedPrivileges><br />
</security><br />
</trustInfo><br />
</assembly><br />
<br />
The pertinent part that makes it work is the <code>level="asInvoker"</code> attribute, which tells Vista that it doesn't need any extra privileges to run. There's one snag to this, which is that if you've already run nsinstall.exe without the .manifest file, then Vista has already put the perceived needed privilege elevation in the [http://blogs.msdn.com/vistacompatteam/archive/2006/11/13/manifest-and-the-fusion-cache.aspx fusion cache]. In order to clear the cache you need to reboot Vista.<br />
<br />
There is a third way to workaround the problem, but I don't like the long-term implications of it. You could rename the nsinstall.exe utility to something that doesn't have "install" or "setup" in the name and then change the build scripts to that effect. However, that means keeping a branch of the build scripts forever and that would probably cause more headaches down the road.<br />
<br />
== Reducing Build Time ==<br />
The Thunderbird folks advise building in a subdirectory or subdirectories when making a change to the code to reduce the amount of time needed to build. By a narrowing down the build to at least the component you need to rebuild you can cut the compile time dramatically. You can cut down the build time even further by specifically providing the change logic yourself and rebuilding only those portions of the code that you know you changed.<br />
<br />
If you use a separate object directory (as the default config suggests), then you'll need to look for the individual makefiles in the object directory hierarchy (for example in my setup I found them under "thunderbird-static" since that's my object directory name). Otherwise the makefiles will be alongside the source.<br><br />
Scott MacGregor notes:<br />
I don't use the objdir technique, but some developers really like it.<br />
Most of those folks like to use it because they are building multiple<br />
products like firefox and thunderbird and they only want to have one<br />
source tree directory. They can just point their thunderbird build at<br />
one objdir directory and the fx build at another, while working out of<br />
just one instance of the source tree. But I mostly just build thunderbird,<br />
so moving the objdir out of my source tree doesn't help me much.<br />
<br />
=== Specific Example ===<br />
A lot of the core functionality is provided in mail.dll, which is built from the mailnews directory.<br />
<br />
For example, say I wanted to make a change to a portion of the IMAP code (e.g. I want to modify "nsIMAPNamespace.cpp").<br />
<br />
==== Slow Method ====<br />
The really slow method to recompile would be to invoke:<br />
make -f client.mk build<br />
in the root level of the mozilla source code. On my laptop, even with no changes to the source code, this takes over 12 minutes to complete.<br />
<br />
==== Faster Method ====<br />
A faster way to recompile would be to invoke "make" inside the mailnews directory (no arguments are needed for "make" since the mailnews directory contains "Makefile"). Without an object directory specified that would be mozilla/mailnews; with an object directory specified that would be something like mozilla/objectdir/mailnews.<br><br />
On my laptop, this took less than 2 minutes to recompile.<br />
<br />
==== Fastest Method ====<br />
The fastest way to recompile would be to first invoke "make" inside the mailnews/imap directory.<br><br />
Then invoke "make" inside the mailnews/build directory (which just re-links mail.dll).<br><br />
On my laptop, this took less than 10 seconds to recompile (ignoring time for me to type, change directories, invoke the 2nd command etc.)<br />
<br />
==== Troubleshooting ====<br />
<br />
Here are some problems that have cropped up during development:<br />
<br />
* The prefs.js file in the profile directory may have stale settings in it which override the behavior you are trying to test. You must remove them manually.<br />
** On Linux the profile directory is in ~/.thunderbird/<br />
** On Mac OSX the profile directory is in ~/Library/Thunderbird/Profiles/<br />
** On windows the profile directory is C:\Documents and Settings\<Windows login/user name>\Application Data\Thunderbird\Profiles\<br />
* The extensions subdirectory may contain the penelope extension if it was installed for Thunderbird. This will conflict with an install of Eudora because the penelope extension resides in the Eudora install directory. Both extensions will be applied at the same time which will cause problems. If you install Eudora, you must remove any previous install from the profile directory<br />
* Beware cross-volume symlinks (see Discussion page)<br />
* Very bad things happen when you have an unresolved entity (missing a DTD file or entry in a DTD file). This can manifest as the whole application is a window with zero size (which is very hard to find!).<br />
* Multiple key mappings occur when they are scoped in different keysets. When redefining a key mapping, make sure it is done in the correct keyset ID.<br />
* Some key mappings canot be set via the prefs file. They seem to be dynamically updated via a xul overlay at run time. The only way I have found to redefine these keys is to create an overlay that remaps the keys.<br />
* If the resulting build in dist/bin will not run try adding execute permission to dist/bin/run-mozilla.sh<br />
<br />
* To re-create the Makefiles you have to remove the generated configure files then re-run make: <br />
rm config.log config.cache config.status mozilla-config.h<br />
make -f client.mk build<br />
<br />
== Debugging the Build Process ==<br />
<br />
Trying to figure out what went wrong with a build can be tricky. Here's a tip for helping troubleshoot builds.<br />
<br />
The <code>-w</code> flag will output a diagnostic line every time you enter and leave a directory. So it gives you a context of where the following commands are coming from. It also gives a nesting level. This flag is on by default with the Cygwin version of make on Windows, but needs to be added for Mac and Linux. To add it, either add this line to your .mozconfig:<br />
<br />
mk_add_options MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS=-w<br />
<br />
or set the MAKEFLAGS environment variable to be <code>-w</code>.<br />
<br />
== Building Installers ==<br />
<br />
Once you're done building the application, you also have the option of building the installer. Instructions are [http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Build_and_Install#Installing_Your_Build here], but they basically just say to cd in to <code>''MOZ_OBJDIR''/mail/installer</code>, and do a <code>make</code> from there (or <code>make installer</code> for Windows). Also for Windows, the instructions note there are some extra tools needed to build the self-extracting installer. For Mac universal binary builds, do the make from <code>''MOZ_OBJDIR''/ppc/mail/installer</code>. After building it, the Windows installer can be found in <code>''MOZ_OBJDIR''/dist/install/sea/</code>. The Mac disk image will be in <code>''MOZ_OBJDIR''/ppc/dist/</code>. The Linux tarball will be in <code>''MOZ_OBJDIR''/dist/</code>.<br />
<br />
=== Windows Issues ===<br />
<br />
Since the Windows versions are built with the Visual C++ 8 compiler, the C runtime DLLs need to be present in order for the application to run. So the installer needs to be told to include those DLLs, which is talked about in [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=324690 Bug 324690]. Basically you just need add the environment variable <code>WIN32_REDIST_DIR</code>, and set it to the directory in MSVC that holds the Win32 VC redistributables, which if you installed VC in the default location would be <code>C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\redist\x86\Microsoft.VC80.CRT</code>. It's interesting to note that the installer will place those DLLs in the Eudora install directory, rather than in Windows system directory. It's easier to do it that way, and has the advantage that those DLLs won't interfere with any other apps. The disadvantages are that it takes up more disk space and that the DLL code space isn't shared between multiple running apps.<br />
<br />
Also, in order to correctly label the build for distribution there are a couple of environment variables that need to be added:<br />
<br />
export MOZILLA_OFFICIAL=1<br />
export BUILD_OFFICIAL=1<br />
<br />
More info can be found [http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Building_a_Mozilla_Distribution here]. There's some extra stuff on that page that doesn't really need to be done, like adding the <code>--without-system-*</code> options isn't necessary since we already specify the <code>--enable-static</code> option.<br />
<br />
=== Customizing Mac Disk Images ===<br />
<br />
The Mac installer is a disk image. When you open it, it mounts a volume that holds the application. It first shows a license agreement (EULA) and requires the user to agree to the license before proceeding. It then shows a folder containing the application, and the user needs to drag the application to the Applications folder in order to install it. The appearance of that folder is controlled by the <code>.DS_Store</code> file in the folder, just like all folders in the Finder. <code>.DS_Store</code> holds the window position and size, the size of icons, the arrangement of the files in the folder, the background image, and other properties. To modify these properties you just have to modify the <code>.DS_Store</code> file.<br />
<br />
There are some [http://jwz.livejournal.com/608927.html web sites] out there that mention you can create a dummy disk image, muck with the folder window in it, and the save the resulting <code>.DS_Store</code> file to reuse in another disk image. Turns out that for compatibility on other machines this doesn't always work. Evidently the Finder can create <code>.DS_Store</code> files that will not work when moved to a different machine.<br />
<br />
What the Mozilla platform uses is a <code>.DS_Store</code> file that was edited by hand and known to be compatible. This file is named <code>dsstore</code> and is kept along with the branding. The build process for the disk image copies <code>$(DIST)/branding/dsstore</code> in to the disk image as <code>.DS_Store</code>.<br />
<br />
Mark Mentovai is the developer who came up with the Mozilla disk image process, and he reverse-engineered the <code>.DS_Store</code> file format to a fairly complete degree. His notes for that can be found [[DS_Store File Format|here]]. It's very helpful for figuring out where to make manual changes in the <code>dsstore</code> file.<br />
<br />
Note that if you want to change the background image all you have to do is check in a new background.png file, and no changes to the <code>dsstore</code> file will be necessary. The most likely changes someone will need to make to the <code>dsstore</code> file in the future will be to window size and/or location.<br />
<br />
== Development Help ==<br />
<br />
=== Web Sites ===<br />
<br />
There are a number of web sites out there for learning about the Mozilla platform and technologies. Here are some that may be helpful.<br />
<br />
The [http://developer.mozilla.org/ Mozilla Developer Center] contains lots of articles and references on all things Mozilla. In particular the section on [http://developer.mozilla.org/docs/XUL XUL]is useful for extension developers.<br />
<br />
[http://www.xulplanet.com XUL Planet] has full references for XUL, DOM, and XPCOM, as well as tutorials and guides.<br />
<br />
[http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsqueryform.cgi Bonsai] is a web query mechanism in to the Mozilla CVS source code depot. Here's a [http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsquery.cgi?treeid=default&module=all&branch=HEAD&branchtype=match&dir=mozilla%2Fpenelope&file=&filetype=match&sortby=Date&date=all&cvsroot=%2Fcvsroot query] that will show you all Penelope changes.<br />
<br />
The Mozilla Cross Reference (or mxr) provides both an [http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/ indexed search engine] and a [http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/ source browser] to the Mozilla code base. There's also an hg interface in to both [http://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/ comm-central] and [http://hg.mozilla.org/penelope/ Penelope] which you can use to browse through source files.<br />
<br />
=== Tools ===<br />
<br />
Here's some downloadable tools you can install to aide in the development process.<br />
<br />
The [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/216 Venkman JavaScript debugger] is essential as a debugging tool to step through JavaScript code and look at variables while running. For more info see the [http://developer.mozilla.org/docs/Venkman Venkman page on MDC].<br />
<br />
[http://developer.mozilla.org/docs/DOM_Inspector DOM Inspector] allows you to browse and edit the document object model tree of UI elements. You can download it [https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/1806 here], but it only works for 2.0 versions of Thunderbird, not trunk versions. If you are building Thunderbird yourself you can build a trunk-compatible version of DOM Inspector by including <code>inspector</code> in the <code>--enable-extensions</code> option (look [http://developer.mozilla.org/docs/DOM_Inspector#Getting_DOM_Inspector here] for exact syntax).<br />
<br />
[https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/4453 Chrome List] lets you browse the chrome in an app.<br />
<br />
The [http://ted.mielczarek.org/code/mozilla/extensiondev Extension Developer's Extension] holds a number of handy developer tools.<br />
<br />
<br />
== Deconstructing Mozilla ==<br />
<br />
[[Adding a New Menu Command]]<br><br />
[[Address Book]]<br><br />
[[Filters]]<br><br />
[[IMAP]]<br><br />
[[Importers]]<br><br />
[[Preferences]]<br><br />
[[Thread Handling]]<br></div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Penelope_Developer_Page&diff=189999Penelope Developer Page2009-12-17T07:25:34Z<p>Beckley: Added info about umask needing to be set to 022</p>
<hr />
<div>== Building Penelope ==<br />
<br />
Start to become familiar with the process by building Thunderbird. Go [http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Build_Documentation fetch and build] Thunderbird. Start learning how it works. <br />
<br />
<br />
=== Linux ===<br />
<br />
These were the steps followed to build Thunderbird 3.0 and Penelope from comm-central on Linux.<br />
These instructions assume an up-to-date Linux machine. The machine I used is running Gentoo Linux 2006.1.<br />
More Thunderbird Linux build details can be found at [http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Linux_Build_Prerequisites developer.mozilla.org]<br />
<br />
* Be sure that your <code>umask</code> is set to 022. If it's not then lots of things will break. You need to set it to 022 '''''before''''' you grab the source.<br />
<br />
* Create a new directory, call it <code>src</code><br />
<br />
* hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/ src<br />
<br />
* cd src<br />
<br />
* python client.py checkout<br />
<br />
* cd mozilla/extensions<br />
<br />
* mkdir penelope<br />
<br />
* hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/penelope/ penelope<br />
<br />
* Create ~/.mozconfig with:<br />
<br />
mk_add_options MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS=-j4<br />
mk_add_options MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS=-w<br />
mk_add_options MOZ_OBJDIR=@TOPSRCDIR@/../bin/debug<br />
<br />
ac_add_options --enable-application=mail<br />
<br />
ac_add_options --enable-default-toolkit=gtk2<br />
ac_add_options --enable-xft<br />
<br />
ac_add_options --disable-optimize<br />
ac_add_options --enable-debug<br />
ac_add_options --disable-static --enable-shared<br />
ac_add_options --disable-installer<br />
ac_add_options --disable-tests<br />
<br />
ac_add_options --enable-extensions=default,penelope,inspector<br />
<br />
Note that it is this last line that includes the building of the Penelope extension in the main build. You don't technically need the "inspector" (DOM Inspector) extension, but it's nice to have if you need to debug DOM issues.<br />
<br />
* make -f client.mk build<br />
<br />
* Go get breakfast/lunch/dinner because it takes a while to do a full compile.<br />
<br />
=== OS X ===<br />
<br />
The steps to build Penelope from comm-central on OS X are almost identical to the instructions for Linux. There are may caveats depending on whether you want a universal binary, which version of OS X you have, which version you want to target, etc.<br />
More Thunderbird OS X build details can be found at [http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Mac_OS_X_Build_Prerequisites developer.mozilla.org].<br />
<br />
The only deviation from the Linux directions is the installation of LibIDL and GLib, and contents of the ~/.mozconfig file.<br />
<br />
* Install LibIDL (via orbit) and GLib using fink:<br />
<br />
$ sudo apt-get update<br />
$ sudo apt-get install orbit orbit-dev glib<br />
<br />
* Create ~/.mozconfig with:<br />
<br />
mk_add_options MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS=-j4<br />
mk_add_options MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS=-w<br />
mk_add_options MOZ_OBJDIR=@TOPSRCDIR@/../bin/debug<br />
<br />
ac_add_options --enable-application=mail<br />
<br />
ac_add_options --with-macos-sdk=/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk<br />
ac_add_options ppc --enable-prebinding<br />
<br />
ac_add_options --disable-optimize<br />
ac_add_options --enable-debug<br />
ac_add_options --disable-static --enable-shared<br />
ac_add_options --disable-installer<br />
ac_add_options --disable-tests<br />
<br />
ac_add_options --enable-extensions=default,penelope,inspector<br />
<br />
==== Making universal binary builds on OS X ====<br />
<br />
[http://developer.apple.com/transition/ Universal binaries] are executables for Mac OSX that contain both PowerPC and Intel processor binaries. That way you can distribute just one application and installer that will work on both types of processors.<br />
<br />
Be sure that you can successfully build for just one processor using the steps above. That way you won't be confused if a problem arises and not know whether the issue is with building in general, or with universal binaries in particular.<br />
<br />
The Mozilla Developer center has some [http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Mac_OS_X_Universal_Binaries documentation] that you will need to follow. In particular there are a couple of things worth pointing out as they can cause problems if not set up correctly:<br />
<br />
* Make sure you have at least version 2.4.1 of [http://developer.apple.com/tools/xcode Xcode] due to a [http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Mac_OS_X_Build_Prerequisites#Troubleshooting bug] in Xcode 2.4. You have to be a [http://developer.apple.com/membership Apple Developer Connection member], but that's free and only requires a valid email address.<br />
* Install the 10.4 SDK from the Xcode disk image. If you've already installed Xcode, then you can easily add the 10.4 SDK by running the CrossDevelopment.mpkg package from the Packages folder of the Xcode disk image. The 10.4 SDK doesn't get installed by default, so you'll have to do a "Customize" install and select the 10.4 SDK.<br />
* You must use the <code>MOZ_OBJDIR</code> option in your <code>.mozconfig</code> file in order to place the generated files outside of your mozilla source tree. This is because both PPC and Intel binaries need to be created and must be kept separate. The build process will create two directories (<code>ppc</code> and <code>i386</code>) in your <code>MOZ_OBJDIR</code> directory, and the universal build will be placed in <code>ppc/dist/universal</code> with a symbolic link at <code>i386/dist/universal</code>.<br />
* Last you need to add these lines to your .mozconfig:<br />
if test -e "$topsrcdir/mozilla/build/macosx/universal/mozconfig"; then<br />
. $topsrcdir/mozilla/build/macosx/universal/mozconfig<br />
else<br />
. $topsrcdir/build/macosx/universal/mozconfig<br />
fi<br />
<br />
=== Windows ===<br />
<br />
See the steps above under Linux for how to get the source code via comm-central.<br />
<br />
Penelope is back to using the trunk version of the Mozilla platform, which uses the MozillaBuild environment. Make sure you go through in detail the [http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Windows_Build_Prerequisites setup documentation]. It's pretty simple to set up with MozillaBuild now. You just download the package and the installer gives you all the right versions of the tools you need to build. You have to use their MINGW32 shell (which is basically bash) in order for it to compile correctly. It's easiest just to use their batch files for starting up the shell and getting the environment set up right. I've only tried it with Visual Studio 2005 (the official version of VS for the trunk), which has a corresponding batch file of start-msvc8.bat.<br />
<br />
Here's the options for your ~/.mozconfig file in order to make a debug build:<br />
<br />
mk_add_options MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS=-j4<br />
mk_add_options MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS=-w<br />
mk_add_options MOZ_OBJDIR=@TOPSRCDIR@/../bin/debug<br />
<br />
ac_add_options --enable-application=mail<br />
<br />
ac_add_options --disable-optimize <br />
ac_add_options --enable-debug<br />
ac_add_options --disable-static --enable-shared<br />
ac_add_options --disable-installer<br />
ac_add_options --disable-tests<br />
<br />
ac_add_options --enable-extensions=default,penelope,inspector<br />
<br />
Finally, go to the root of the source tree and do a:<br />
<br />
* make -f client.mk build<br />
<br />
For some reason the executable that winds up being built can't be launched from a MINGW32 shell. If you try to launch it it fails to initialize some components and gives up. You have to launch it from a different shell to get it to start up properly.<br />
<br />
==== Windows Vista ====<br />
<br />
Windows Vista provides some roadblocks in compiling Penelope. The first is the new security model. By default, administrator accounts under Vista run applications at a reduced privilege level called Standard User. Microsoft found that the most common legitimate reason to need administrator rights was when installing an application, and in order for all the existing installation programs to work under Vista they had to come up with a heuristic workaround. What Vista does is automatically attempt to elevate the privilege of any application that has the words "install" or "setup" in the name of the executable filename. I say "attempt" because there appear to be some situations where the privilege elevation fails, and one of those happens to be when called inside of scripts. I think it has to do with the way the process is created (privilege elevation happens when you call ShellExecute(), but not when CreateProcess() is used), but I'm not sure of that entirely because I don't know how MINGW32 shells start up new processes.<br />
<br />
And wouldn't you know it, one of the utilities used to compile Penelope falls in to this heuristic: nsinstall.exe. All that command-line tool really does is copy some files, which doesn't require Administrator privileges as long as you have have write access to the destination directory, but Vista's automatic privilege elevation thinks it might due to the name. The privilege elevation fails and so the build fails. Happy, happy, joy, joy.<br />
<br />
There's two current workarounds. One is that the Command Prompt window that you use to compile Penelope can be run as Administrator. You can create a shortcut setting that up (its in the Properties, Compatibility tab), or you can right-click on a link to a Command Prompt (e.g. one that shows up on the Start menu) and select "Run as Administrator". This is an unsatisfying solution because it raises the privilege level unnecessarily, but it does work. It does happen to solve other permission-related issues with files in general, so it is an easy way to fix the problem. It's also no different than the security model of Windows before Vista (well, at least the way that most people set it up, which is to run as Administrator all of the time).<br />
<br />
The other way is to tell Vista that the app doesn't really need Administrator privileges. You can do this via a manifest file, which is an XML file which has properties about the application. It has the same name as the executable (including the ".exe"), but with an extra extension of ".manifest" to it. The manifest file contents should look like this:<br />
<br />
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?><br />
<assembly xmlns="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:asm.v1" manifestVersion="1.0"><br />
<assemblyIdentity version="1.0.0.0"<br />
processorArchitecture="X86"<br />
name="nsinstall"<br />
type="win32"/><br />
<br />
<br />
<description>Description of your application</description><br />
<!-- Identify the application security requirements. --><br />
<trustInfo xmlns="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:asm.v3"><br />
<security><br />
<requestedPrivileges><br />
<requestedExecutionLevel<br />
level="asInvoker"<br />
uiAccess="false"/><br />
</requestedPrivileges><br />
</security><br />
</trustInfo><br />
</assembly><br />
<br />
The pertinent part that makes it work is the <code>level="asInvoker"</code> attribute, which tells Vista that it doesn't need any extra privileges to run. There's one snag to this, which is that if you've already run nsinstall.exe without the .manifest file, then Vista has already put the perceived needed privilege elevation in the [http://blogs.msdn.com/vistacompatteam/archive/2006/11/13/manifest-and-the-fusion-cache.aspx fusion cache]. In order to clear the cache you need to reboot Vista.<br />
<br />
There is a third way to workaround the problem, but I don't like the long-term implications of it. You could rename the nsinstall.exe utility to something that doesn't have "install" or "setup" in the name and then change the build scripts to that effect. However, that means keeping a branch of the build scripts forever and that would probably cause more headaches down the road.<br />
<br />
== Reducing Build Time ==<br />
The Thunderbird folks advise building in a subdirectory or subdirectories when making a change to the code to reduce the amount of time needed to build. By a narrowing down the build to at least the component you need to rebuild you can cut the compile time dramatically. You can cut down the build time even further by specifically providing the change logic yourself and rebuilding only those portions of the code that you know you changed.<br />
<br />
If you use a separate object directory (as the default config suggests), then you'll need to look for the individual makefiles in the object directory hierarchy (for example in my setup I found them under "thunderbird-static" since that's my object directory name). Otherwise the makefiles will be alongside the source.<br><br />
Scott MacGregor notes:<br />
I don't use the objdir technique, but some developers really like it.<br />
Most of those folks like to use it because they are building multiple<br />
products like firefox and thunderbird and they only want to have one<br />
source tree directory. They can just point their thunderbird build at<br />
one objdir directory and the fx build at another, while working out of<br />
just one instance of the source tree. But I mostly just build thunderbird,<br />
so moving the objdir out of my source tree doesn't help me much.<br />
<br />
=== Specific Example ===<br />
A lot of the core functionality is provided in mail.dll, which is built from the mailnews directory.<br />
<br />
For example, say I wanted to make a change to a portion of the IMAP code (e.g. I want to modify "nsIMAPNamespace.cpp").<br />
<br />
==== Slow Method ====<br />
The really slow method to recompile would be to invoke:<br />
make -f client.mk build<br />
in the root level of the mozilla source code. On my laptop, even with no changes to the source code, this takes over 12 minutes to complete.<br />
<br />
==== Faster Method ====<br />
A faster way to recompile would be to invoke "make" inside the mailnews directory (no arguments are needed for "make" since the mailnews directory contains "Makefile"). Without an object directory specified that would be mozilla/mailnews; with an object directory specified that would be something like mozilla/objectdir/mailnews.<br><br />
On my laptop, this took less than 2 minutes to recompile.<br />
<br />
==== Fastest Method ====<br />
The fastest way to recompile would be to first invoke "make" inside the mailnews/imap directory.<br><br />
Then invoke "make" inside the mailnews/build directory (which just re-links mail.dll).<br><br />
On my laptop, this took less than 10 seconds to recompile (ignoring time for me to type, change directories, invoke the 2nd command etc.)<br />
<br />
==== Troubleshooting ====<br />
<br />
Here are some problems that have cropped up during development:<br />
<br />
* The prefs.js file in the profile directory may have stale settings in it which override the behavior you are trying to test. You must remove them manually.<br />
** On Linux the profile directory is in ~/.thunderbird/<br />
** On Mac OSX the profile directory is in ~/Library/Thunderbird/Profiles/<br />
** On windows the profile directory is C:\Documents and Settings\<Windows login/user name>\Application Data\Thunderbird\Profiles\<br />
* The extensions subdirectory may contain the penelope extension if it was installed for Thunderbird. This will conflict with an install of Eudora because the penelope extension resides in the Eudora install directory. Both extensions will be applied at the same time which will cause problems. If you install Eudora, you must remove any previous install from the profile directory<br />
* Beware cross-volume symlinks (see Discussion page)<br />
* Very bad things happen when you have an unresolved entity (missing a DTD file or entry in a DTD file). This can manifest as the whole application is a window with zero size (which is very hard to find!).<br />
* Multiple key mappings occur when they are scoped in different keysets. When redefining a key mapping, make sure it is done in the correct keyset ID.<br />
* Some key mappings canot be set via the prefs file. They seem to be dynamically updated via a xul overlay at run time. The only way I have found to redefine these keys is to create an overlay that remaps the keys.<br />
* If the resulting build in dist/bin will not run try adding execute permission to dist/bin/run-mozilla.sh<br />
<br />
* To re-create the Makefiles you have to remove the generated configure files then re-run make: <br />
rm config.log config.cache config.status mozilla-config.h<br />
make -f client.mk build<br />
<br />
== Debugging the Build Process ==<br />
<br />
Trying to figure out what went wrong with a build can be tricky. Here's a tip for helping troubleshoot builds.<br />
<br />
The <code>-w</code> flag will output a diagnostic line every time you enter and leave a directory. So it gives you a context of where the following commands are coming from. It also gives a nesting level. This flag is on by default with the Cygwin version of make on Windows, but needs to be added for Mac and Linux. To add it, either add this line to your .mozconfig:<br />
<br />
mk_add_options MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS=-w<br />
<br />
or set the MAKEFLAGS environment variable to be <code>-w</code>.<br />
<br />
== Building Installers ==<br />
<br />
Once you're done building the application, you also have the option of building the installer. Instructions are [http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Build_and_Install#Installing_Your_Build here], but they basically just say to cd in to <code>''MOZ_OBJDIR''/mail/installer</code>, and do a <code>make</code> from there (or <code>make installer</code> for Windows). Also for Windows, the instructions note there are some extra tools needed to build the self-extracting installer. For Mac universal binary builds, do the make from <code>''MOZ_OBJDIR''/ppc/mail/installer</code>. After building it, the Windows installer can be found in <code>''MOZ_OBJDIR''/dist/install/sea/</code>. The Mac disk image will be in <code>''MOZ_OBJDIR''/ppc/dist/</code>. The Linux tarball will be in <code>''MOZ_OBJDIR''/dist/</code>.<br />
<br />
=== Windows Issues ===<br />
<br />
Since the Windows versions are built with the Visual C++ 8 compiler, the C runtime DLLs need to be present in order for the application to run. So the installer needs to be told to include those DLLs, which is talked about in [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=324690 Bug 324690]. Basically you just need add the environment variable <code>WIN32_REDIST_DIR</code>, and set it to the directory in MSVC that holds the Win32 VC redistributables, which if you installed VC in the default location would be <code>C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\redist\x86\Microsoft.VC80.CRT</code>. It's interesting to note that the installer will place those DLLs in the Eudora install directory, rather than in Windows system directory. It's easier to do it that way, and has the advantage that those DLLs won't interfere with any other apps. The disadvantages are that it takes up more disk space and that the DLL code space isn't shared between multiple running apps.<br />
<br />
Also, in order to correctly label the build for distribution there are a couple of environment variables that need to be added:<br />
<br />
export MOZILLA_OFFICIAL=1<br />
export BUILD_OFFICIAL=1<br />
<br />
More info can be found [http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Building_a_Mozilla_Distribution here]. There's some extra stuff on that page that doesn't really need to be done, like adding the <code>--without-system-*</code> options isn't necessary since we already specify the <code>--enable-static</code> option.<br />
<br />
=== Customizing Mac Disk Images ===<br />
<br />
The Mac installer is a disk image. When you open it, it mounts a volume that holds the application. It first shows a license agreement (EULA) and requires the user to agree to the license before proceeding. It then shows a folder containing the application, and the user needs to drag the application to the Applications folder in order to install it. The appearance of that folder is controlled by the <code>.DS_Store</code> file in the folder, just like all folders in the Finder. <code>.DS_Store</code> holds the window position and size, the size of icons, the arrangement of the files in the folder, the background image, and other properties. To modify these properties you just have to modify the <code>.DS_Store</code> file.<br />
<br />
There are some [http://jwz.livejournal.com/608927.html web sites] out there that mention you can create a dummy disk image, muck with the folder window in it, and the save the resulting <code>.DS_Store</code> file to reuse in another disk image. Turns out that for compatibility on other machines this doesn't always work. Evidently the Finder can create <code>.DS_Store</code> files that will not work when moved to a different machine.<br />
<br />
What the Mozilla platform uses is a <code>.DS_Store</code> file that was edited by hand and known to be compatible. This file is named <code>dsstore</code> and is kept along with the branding. The build process for the disk image copies <code>$(DIST)/branding/dsstore</code> in to the disk image as <code>.DS_Store</code>.<br />
<br />
Mark Mentovai is the developer who came up with the Mozilla disk image process, and he reverse-engineered the <code>.DS_Store</code> file format to a fairly complete degree. His notes for that can be found [[DS_Store File Format|here]]. It's very helpful for figuring out where to make manual changes in the <code>dsstore</code> file.<br />
<br />
Note that if you want to change the background image all you have to do is check in a new background.png file, and no changes to the <code>dsstore</code> file will be necessary. The most likely changes someone will need to make to the <code>dsstore</code> file in the future will be to window size and/or location.<br />
<br />
== Development Help ==<br />
<br />
=== Web Sites ===<br />
<br />
There are a number of web sites out there for learning about the Mozilla platform and technologies. Here are some that may be helpful.<br />
<br />
The [http://developer.mozilla.org/ Mozilla Developer Center] contains lots of articles and references on all things Mozilla. In particular the section on [http://developer.mozilla.org/docs/XUL XUL]is useful for extension developers.<br />
<br />
[http://www.xulplanet.com XUL Planet] has full references for XUL, DOM, and XPCOM, as well as tutorials and guides.<br />
<br />
[http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsqueryform.cgi Bonsai] is a web query mechanism in to the Mozilla CVS source code depot. Here's a [http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsquery.cgi?treeid=default&module=all&branch=HEAD&branchtype=match&dir=mozilla%2Fpenelope&file=&filetype=match&sortby=Date&date=all&cvsroot=%2Fcvsroot query] that will show you all Penelope changes.<br />
<br />
The Mozilla Cross Reference (or mxr) provides both an [http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/ indexed search engine] and a [http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/ source browser] to the Mozilla code base. There's also an hg interface in to both [http://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/ comm-central] and [http://hg.mozilla.org/penelope/ Penelope] which you can use to browse through source files.<br />
<br />
=== Tools ===<br />
<br />
Here's some downloadable tools you can install to aide in the development process.<br />
<br />
The [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/216 Venkman JavaScript debugger] is essential as a debugging tool to step through JavaScript code and look at variables while running. For more info see the [http://developer.mozilla.org/docs/Venkman Venkman page on MDC].<br />
<br />
[http://developer.mozilla.org/docs/DOM_Inspector DOM Inspector] allows you to browse and edit the document object model tree of UI elements. You can download it [https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/1806 here], but it only works for 2.0 versions of Thunderbird, not trunk versions. If you are building Thunderbird yourself you can build a trunk-compatible version of DOM Inspector by including <code>inspector</code> in the <code>--enable-extensions</code> option (look [http://developer.mozilla.org/docs/DOM_Inspector#Getting_DOM_Inspector here] for exact syntax).<br />
<br />
[https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/4453 Chrome List] lets you browse the chrome in an app.<br />
<br />
The [http://ted.mielczarek.org/code/mozilla/extensiondev Extension Developer's Extension] holds a number of handy developer tools.<br />
<br />
<br />
== Deconstructing Mozilla ==<br />
<br />
[[Adding a New Menu Command]]<br><br />
[[Address Book]]<br><br />
[[Filters]]<br><br />
[[IMAP]]<br><br />
[[Importers]]<br><br />
[[Preferences]]<br><br />
[[Thread Handling]]<br></div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-12-15&diff=189375Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-12-152009-12-15T17:20:14Z<p>Beckley: /* beckley */</p>
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<div><small>[[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-12-01|last meeting]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings|index]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-12-22|next meeting »]]</small> <br />
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'''Thunderbird Meeting Details'''&nbsp;: <br />
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*[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=12&day=15&hour=17&min=30&sec=0 Tuesday, December 15th, 17:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern) <br />
*[[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]<br />
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== Agenda ==<br />
<br />
*Who's taking minutes? --&gt; '''davida''' <br />
*[http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.<br />
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=== Action Items ===<br />
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==== New ====<br />
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==== Open ====<br />
* Planning for a dry-run security firedrill build<br />
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==== Closed ====<br />
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=== Friends of the Tree ===<br />
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=== Thunderbird 3.0 ===<br />
<br />
[http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/about/press/archive/2009-12-08-01 Released last Tuesday]<br />
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=== Thunderbird 3.1 Developer Update ===<br />
<br />
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Dmose/Tb_Post-3.0_Scratchpad Post 3.0 Roadmap]<br />
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Dmose/Tb_Post-3.1_Scratchpad Post 3.1 Roadmap]<br />
* Tb 3.1 cycle specifics<br />
* More branches and work on branches<br />
* Feedback on schedule for 3.next is wanted.<br />
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/chart.cgi?category=-All-&datefrom=2009-08-19&dateto=&gt=1&label0=TB%20TB%203.1&label1=MC%20TB%203.1&label2=MoMo%20TB%203.1&labelgt=Grand%20Total&line0=1952&line1=1953&line2=1954&name=1183&subcategory=-All-&ctype=png&action=plot&width=400&height=232 3.1 Blocker Chart]<br />
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* Blockers <br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3.1%2B&sharer_id=112088 blocking-thunderbird3.1+ (includes tb31needs)]: 51<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3.1%3F&sharer_id=112088 blocking-thunderbird3.1?]: 48<br />
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* Fixed Alpha 1<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.1a1 blocking|blocking-thunderbird3.1%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.1a1}}: 1<br />
<br />
=== Thunderbird 3.0.x Developer Update ===<br />
<br />
* No concrete plan for 3.0.1 as of yet<br />
* [http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=Thunderbird3.0 Tinderbox] has links to:<br />
** [[Thunderbird/Thunderbird3_Security_And_Stability_Releases#General_Process_for_landing_bugs_on_Thunderbird_3.0.x|Process for getting bugs into 3.0.x]]<br />
** [[Thunderbird/Thunderbird3_Security_And_Stability_Releases#Status_Tracking|Tracking and Status page]]<br />
<br />
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?field0-0-0=cf_blocking_thunderbird30;query_format=advanced;type0-0-0=equals;value0-0-0=%3F Blocking Nominations]: 16<br />
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20blocking-thunderbird3.0:needed%20-status-thunderbird3.0:fixed&order=map_assigned_to.login_name,bugs.bug_id Blockers (needed)]: 1<br />
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20blocking-thunderbird3.0:.1+%20-status-thunderbird3.0:.1-fixed&order=map_assigned_to.login_name,bugs.bug_id Blocking 3.0.1]: 12<br />
* Of which:<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20blocking-thunderbird3.0:.1+%20-status-thunderbird3.0:.1-fixed%20-flag:approval-thunderbird3.0.1%2B%20-flag:approval-thunderbird3.0.1%3F&order=map_assigned_to.login_name,bugs.bug_id waiting branch patch] (or approval flag setting): 11<br />
<br />
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?field0-0-0=cf_status_thunderbird30;query_format=advanced;type0-0-0=equals;value0-0-0=.1-fixed Fixed 3.0.1]: 22<br />
** Of which [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20status-thunderbird3.0:.1-fixed%20-kw:verified-thunderbird3.0&order=bugs.bug_id need verification]: 22<br />
<br />
=== QA Updates ===<br />
<br />
*TB 3.0 released <br />
*Top reported issues&nbsp;: <br />
**Duplicate folder after migrations from 2.x {{bug|505465}} <br />
**Issue with the way we do auth for some SMTP confs, also after migration from 2.x <br />
**Can't open text files {{bug|533462}}<br />
<br />
*Bug filled are going up a bit.<br />
<br />
*we are going back to our regular Thursday scheduled activities new users are welcome and can easily join. [[Thunderbird:Upcoming QA Testday]]<br />
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{| class="fullwidth-table"<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: rgb(239, 239, 239) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | '''status''' <br />
| style="background: rgb(239, 239, 239) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | '''bug''' <br />
| style="background: rgb(239, 239, 239) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | '''summary''' <br />
| style="background: rgb(239, 239, 239) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | # of crash<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | Unassigned <br />
| {{Bug|519962}} <br />
| _purecall &#124; nsPrefBranch::freeObserverList() &#124; nsPrefBranch::Observe(nsISupports*, char const*, unsigned short const*) <br />
| 1445<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: lawngreen none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | Assigned Patch in review <br />
| {{Bug|505717}} <br />
| EscapeFromSpaceLine(nsIOutputStream*, char*, char const*) <br />
| 1204<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | No signature bug<br> <br />
| <br />
| <br />
| 1100 <br />
|-<br />
| style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | assigned <br />
| {{bug|513543}} <br />
| MimeInlineTextHTML_parse_eof <br />
| 853<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | Unassigned <br />
| {{Bug|505016}} <br />
| _purecall &#124; nsXPCWrappedJS::QueryInterface(nsID const&amp;, void**) <br />
| 773<br />
|}<br />
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concerned by some sqlite related crashers.<br />
<br />
=== Marketing Updates ===<br />
* PR update - many articles, mostly positive pick up<br />
** 68 original articles from Dec 8 - 10. 193 total US articles, 135 original since November.<br />
*** [http://blogs.computerworld.com/15221/thunderbird_is_go Computerworld], [http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/7525/our-hands-on-look-at-mozilla-thunderbird-3.0/ HowtoGeek], [http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/184073/mozillas_thunderbird_email_client_comes_with_tabs.html PCWorld]<br />
** 32 original articles in Germany for Thunderbird 3 release<br />
** 13 original in the UK<br />
** 20 original in Japan<br />
** [http://delicious.com/txt100FF/thunderbird?page=1 over 30 in France] <br />
<br />
Next up<br />
* Evaluating press articles.<br />
* Party planning - 3rd/4th week of January for release party.<br />
<br />
=== IT update ===<br />
<br />
* Post Thunderbird 3.0 fixes and metrics<br />
* Calendar 1.0b1<br />
* TB 3.0 AUS pings yesterday: > 162k<br />
* SuMoMo trunk has all wanted features working<br />
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=== Documentation ===<br />
<br />
=== Support ===<br />
# All Hands<br />
## Met everybody in SUMO and AMO and others I wanted to meet except PascalC<br />
## Enabled me to draw up 2010 Support Goals which I will make public later this week<br />
# Top 5 GS Thunderbird 2 Support Topics (code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190923 )<br />
## not collected focused on Thunderbird 3.0<br />
# Thunderbird 3.0 Top Support Issues <br />
## [http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/topics/kaspersky_anti_spam_extension_causing_blank_window_problems_with_thunderbird_3_upgrade Kaspersky DLL and KPT issue causes blank windows after upgrade from TB 2 to 3] - email to Carsten and Mark and Sam sent, not sure who is in charge of Kaspersky, is it Jonathan? awaiting reply to email<br />
## Compact Header<br />
## [http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/topics/thunderbird_2_to_3_0_upgrade_unable_to_authenticate_to_smtp_server_uncheck_use_name_and_password_for_that_server Untick use name and userid]<br />
## 4GB Gmail issue - Bienvenu working on fix for Thunderbird 3.1<br />
# SUMO for MoMo <br />
## theming really done this week<br />
## still need people to write kb articles - [http://blogs.mozillamessaging.com/roland/2009/11/30/call-for-sumomo-writers/ sign up to write a SuMoMo article today :-)]<br />
# TB 3.0 Lessons learned for 3.1 Support<br />
## Have a support Day 1 or 2 business days after release<br />
## Test (and notify vendors) all popular anti-virus upgrade scenarios from last major release to new release including Kaspersky<br />
## Have KB articles ready for all new features and GS topics that point to KB articles - start writing KB articles at Beta 1<br />
## Explain how community support works. 1 or 2 brief videos will make it much clearer I think<br />
## Explain how add-ons work and how crucial it is to wait for your add-ons to be ported before upgrading<br />
# Get Satisfaction<br />
## Met with GS team in San Francisco last week and shared our ideas for GS improvements, most critical is split/close, will post wiki page with followup<br />
## GS branding will be done this week, thanks to Gozer for code inspecting<br />
## [[Thunderbird/Support/Workflow|GS Workflow aka How to do support in progress]]<br />
# Key Support stats from the following graphic:<br />
## approximately 105/ day (734/7 new topics 3.6x higher than week of Dec 1, # of visitors 15X higher: 30000 compared to 2000)<br />
## total new topics:734 total replies: 372 ([http://gist.github.com/196464 Ruby Code])<br />
### date:20091208 #new support topics:54 resolved:15<br />
### date:20091209 #new support topics:189 resolved:13<br />
### date:20091210 #new support topics:165 resolved:16<br />
### date:20091211 #new support topics:126 resolved:23<br />
### date:20091212 #new support topics:103 resolved:9<br />
### date:20091213 #new support topics:88 resolved:13<br />
### date:20091214 #new support topics:92 resolved:18<br />
## #replies from non MoMo folks: replies from MoMo folks: not available since JSON GS Replies API is down, email sent to GS folks thanks to Bienvenu, davida, dmosee and new folks for helping<br />
## happiness metric: API doesn't have happiness emotitags, code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190094, JSON replies API is down so no update, Hendrix down to 10 since link replaced with GS link<br />
[[File:8-14Dec2009-Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.png|500px]]<br />
<br />
=== Roundtable ===<br />
<br />
* [http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/weekly-updates.fcgi/project/thunderbird bsmedberg's weekly update webapp]<br />
<br />
==== Status Updates ====<br />
<br />
===== sid0 =====<br />
<br />
===== davida =====<br />
<br />
===== dmose =====<br />
<br />
===== Standard8 =====<br />
<br />
* Reviews<br />
* Thunderbird 3 follow-up and bug triage.<br />
* 3.0.x driving<br />
* 1.9.2 branch set up work.<br />
<br />
===== asuth =====<br />
<br />
===== bienvenu =====<br />
* Reviews and Driving<br />
* MoCo All hands<br />
* 3.1 planning<br />
* Spent time with Get Satisfaction to get an idea of the issues we need to fix for 3.01 and 3.1.<br />
* Added check for null url in NotifySearchHit, potential fix for topcrash {{bug|533249}}<br />
* Attempted to fix dock count issues on mac, {{bug|516477}}<br />
* fix ref counting issue editing drafts, {{bug|532693}}<br />
* Cleaned up some dump statements in unit tests to dump exception caught, not some undefined variable.<br />
<br />
===== gozer =====<br />
<br />
===== clarkbw =====<br />
<br />
===== wsmwk =====<br />
<br />
===== beckley =====<br />
<br />
====== Penelope ======<br />
<br />
* Gloda integration in to Search Messages window not going well, and is backed out for next beta<br />
* Eudora 8.0b8/Penelope 0.5a5 builds made and being tested, with hopes of release later this week<br />
<br />
===== KaiRo =====<br />
<br />
===== rkent =====<br />
<br />
===== rebron =====<br />
* Thunderbird 3 release <br />
* All Hands<br />
* Add-on Conference<br />
<br />
This Week<br />
* A few more locales for Thunderbird 3<br />
* PR evaluation.<br />
<br />
===== Tsk =====<br />
<br />
===== andreasn =====<br />
<br />
===== bwinton =====<br />
<br />
===== roland =====<br />
<br />
===== sgautherie =====<br />
*Fixed MailNews Core bugs:<br />
**{{bug|520899}} Switch application/x-javascript to application/javascript, MailNews Core part<br />
<br />
===== nth10sd =====<br />
<br />
===== Fallen =====<br />
<br />
===== jcranmer =====<br />
<br />
===== BenB =====<br />
<br />
Working on [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525238 bug 525238] and automated tests. Implemented AUTH PLAIN and AUTH CRAM-MD5 (for real) in the fake server.<br />
<br />
=== Attendees ===<br />
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__NOTOC__</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Penelope&diff=187839Penelope2009-12-04T22:32:31Z<p>Beckley: Added developer info back in</p>
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<div>'''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penelope_%28e-mail_client%29 Penelope]''' is an open source extension to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Thunderbird Mozilla Thunderbird] mail application.<br />
<br />
Qualcomm's intention with the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penelope Penelope] project is to join the Eudora&reg; user experience with the Mozilla platform. We intend to produce a version of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eudora_%28e-mail_client%29 Eudora] that is open source and based on [[Main_Page|Mozilla]] and [[Thunderbird]]. It's '''''not''''' our intention to compete with Thunderbird; rather, we want to complement it.<br />
<br />
Qualcomm is committed to both preserving the Eudora user experience and to maintaining maximum compatibility, for both developers and users, with Thunderbird. It is our goal to build a single development community around Thunderbird and Eudora, so that both mailers advance faster than they previously have.<br />
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<br />
== Quick Links ==<br />
* [[Documentation_Project|Documentation]]<br />
* [[Penelope_Roadmap|Development Roadmap]]<br />
* [[Eudora Releases]]<br />
* [[Penelope Extensions]]<br />
<br />
== Release Cycle ==<br />
<br />
In order to maintain maximum compatibility across both codebases, it is our intention to match the release cycle of the Thunderbird project. That means that every time there's a new release of Thunderbird, a new release of Eudora/Penelope will follow shortly.<br />
<br />
The current version of Eudora is always available on the [[Eudora Releases]] page. If you just want the latest Penelope extension without Eudora, you can get it on the [[Penelope Extensions]] page. Because the evolution of the Penelope code is tied to that of Thunderbird, it is recommended that you use a version of Penelope that comes with a Eudora 8 release to ensure maximum compatibility.<br />
<br />
== Bug Reports and Enhancement Requests ==<br />
<br />
If you're experiencing problems with Penelope/Eudora, we want to hear about it. Before filing new bugs, it's always helpful to check and see if anyone else is having the same issue. Since Penelope and Thunderbird are intertwined, it can be difficult to know which part of the mail application is giving you grief. You can use these predefined searches to check for bugs in the [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Penelope&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=VERIFIED&resolution=---&cmdtype=doit&order=Importance&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= Penelope Bugzilla Database], or in the [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Thunderbird&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=VERIFIED&resolution=---&cmdtype=doit&order=Importance&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= Thunderbird Bugzilla Database].<br />
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If you've been using a classic, commercial version of Eudora (or even if you haven't) and would like to help prioritize the feature development of the new, open source version, your input would be most appreciated. It's important to keep in mind that the open source version of Eudora is a work in progress, and still in its infancy.<br />
<br />
The feature set for the classic version of Eudora was refined over many years of active development (almost two decades' worth). The challenge now is to evaluate that rich suite of features and give some priority to recreating [the most relevant of] them for open source users. Progress is likely to be somewhat slower than on a commercial project where work is divided up amongst teams of developers who set to work like a school of piranha. One or two piranha gnawing away on a buffalo will eventually get through the whole thing, but it's a far less instantaneous process.<br />
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You can check the [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Penelope&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_severity=enhancement&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= Penelope Bugzilla Enhancement Database] to see what's on the drawing board and to file your own suggestions. If you would like to comment about '''how''' a particular feature is implemented, or about any other aspect of the feature, feel free to add a comment to the bug.<br />
<br />
If you like a feature, but do not have anything specific to say about it, please avoid posting 'Me too!' or 'I agree' comments. Instead, please '''VOTE''' for the feature. (The voting option appears just above the 'Additional Comments' section when you are viewing a bug).<br />
<br />
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== For Developers ==<br />
<br />
If you are a developer and want to get involved, see the [[Penelope Developer Page]]<br />
<br />
== Keeping an Eye on the Goings On ==<br />
<br />
Because Penelope is an ongoing project, there are a number of ways to watch and participate and users are encouraged to participate in the process to whatever exent they're inclined or able.<br />
<br />
Implemented features will be described in the [[Documentation Project|Documentation section]].<br />
<br />
Requested features and reported bugs can be viewed, voted on, or filed in the [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Penelope&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=VERIFIED&resolution=---&cmdtype=doit&order=Importance&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= Penelope section] of the Bugzilla database (as described above).<br />
<br />
To discuss Penelope, see the [[Talk:Penelope|Discussion]] tab above, the [http://eudorabb.qualcomm.com/forumdisplay.php?f=28 Penelope Section of the Eudora Forums] or the unofficial newsgroup [http://emailman.newsgrouphosting.com/readgroup?group=emailman.software.clients.eudora.penelope emailman.software.clients.eudora.penelope]. The latter is accessible via web or newsreader.<br />
<br />
* Core team members hang out in '''#penelope''' on '''irc.mozilla.org'''. For basic information on getting started with IRC, see the [[Penelope IRC]] page.<br />
<br />
* The [http://eudorabb.qualcomm.com/forumdisplay.php?f=28 Penelope Section of the Eudora Forums] provides a forum for discussing ideas, making suggestions, etc.<br />
<br />
== Team Members ==<br />
<br />
The core members of the Penelope project are currently:<br />
<br />
* [mailto:sdorner@qualcomm.com Steve Dorner], [http://www.qualcomm.com QUALCOMM&reg;], original author of Eudora for Macintosh<br />
* [mailto:beckley@qualcomm.com Jeff Beckley], QUALCOMM, original co-author of Eudora for Windows<br />
* [mailto:dwiggins@qualcomm.com Dale Wiggins], QUALCOMM, longtime Eudora developer<br />
* [mailto:mdudziak@qualcomm.com Matt Dudziak], QUALCOMM, longtime Eudora project manager<br />
* [mailto:gwenger@qualcomm.com Geoffrey Wenger], QUALCOMM, longtime Eudora developer<br />
* [mailto:mcharleb@qualcomm.com Mark Charlebois], QUALCOMM, Linux developer and Thunderbird user<br />
<br />
== QUALCOMM Involvement ==<br />
<br />
Eudora has been a QUALCOMM product for many years. QUALCOMM continues to have a keen interest in the users of Eudora, and is being kind enough to donate the time of the above staff members to the Penelope project.<br />
<br />
== Trademarks ==<br />
<br />
QUALCOMM and Eudora are registered trademarks of QUALCOMM Incorporated.</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-12-01&diff=186851Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-12-012009-12-01T17:27:44Z<p>Beckley: /* beckley */</p>
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<div><small>[[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-11-24|last meeting]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings|index]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-12-08|next meeting »]]</small> <br />
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'''Thunderbird Meeting Details'''&nbsp;: <br />
<br />
*[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=12&day=01&hour=17&min=30&sec=0 Tuesday, December 12th, 17:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern) <br />
*[[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]<br />
<br />
== Agenda ==<br />
<br />
*Who's taking minutes? --&gt; '''gozer''' <br />
*[http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.<br />
<br />
=== Action Items ===<br />
<br />
==== New ====<br />
<br />
==== Open ====<br />
* Planning for a dry-run security firedrill build<br />
<br />
==== Closed ====<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:Final|Thunderbird 3]] Developer Update ===<br />
<br />
==== RC 1 ====<br />
<br />
* Released last Tuesday (24th Nov).<br />
<br />
==== RC 2 ====<br />
<br />
* Picks up a small [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr;query_format=advanced;status_whiteboard=%5Bfixed%20RC2%20build%201%5D list of bugs]<br />
* Hoping to release today.<br />
<br />
==== Final ====<br />
<br />
* Blockers are mainly web site updates.<br />
* Remaining blockers are either trackers, or test-only/build changes to support the security & stability releases.<br />
<br />
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/Thunderbird3_Security_And_Stability_Releases TB 3 Security and Stability page] updated now that we have flags for 3.0.x tracking.<br />
<br />
* Blockers <br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+]: 14 (+2)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=tb3needs&sharer_id=1537 TB 3 Needs]: 2 (+1)<br />
* Proposed Blocking <br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 4 (+4)<br />
<br />
* Fixed RC1<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0rc1 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0rc1}}: 153 (-2) (not sure what happened here)<br />
<br />
=== Thunderbird 3.next ===<br />
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Dmose/Tb_Post-3.0_Scratchpad Post 3.0 Roadmap]<br />
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Dmose/Tb_Post-3.1_Scratchpad Post 3.1 Roadmap]<br />
* Tb 3.1 cycle specifics<br />
* More branches and work on branches<br />
* Feedback on schedule for 3.next is wanted.<br />
<br />
=== QA Updates ===<br />
<br />
*Testing Thunderbird RC1 Build3 <br />
*Spot-checking Thunderbird RC2<br />
<br />
*Plan to get back to regular QA activities post 3.0 release.<br />
<br />
3.0rc1/rc2 topcrashes- Crash or sorted by rank.<br> <br />
<br />
{| class="fullwidth-table"<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: rgb(239, 239, 239) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | '''status''' <br />
| style="background: rgb(239, 239, 239) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | '''bug''' <br />
| style="background: rgb(239, 239, 239) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | '''summary''' <br />
| style="background: rgb(239, 239, 239) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | # of crash<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: lawngreen none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | Issue with Enigmail<br> <br />
| {{Bug|531339}} <br />
| nsRefPtr&lt;nsDOMWorkerMessageHandler&gt;::assign_assuming_AddRef(nsDOMWorkerMessageHandler*) &#124; nsRefPtr&lt;nsScreen&gt;::assign_with_AddRef(nsScreen*) &#124; nsMsgComposeAndSend::InitCompositionFields(nsMsgCompFields*, nsACString_internal const&amp;, int) <br />
| 781<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | Unassigned <br />
| {{Bug|505717}} <br />
| EscapeFromSpaceLine(nsIOutputStream*, char*, char const*) <br />
| 79<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | assigned <br />
| {{bug|513543}} <br />
| MimeInlineTextHTML_parse_eof <br />
| 75<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | Unassigned <br />
| {{Bug|505016}} <br />
| _purecall &#124; nsXPCWrappedJS::QueryInterface(nsID const&amp;, void**) <br />
| 69<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | Unassigned<br />
| {{Bug|519962}} <br />
| _purecall &#124; nsPrefBranch::freeObserverList() &#124; nsPrefBranch::Observe(nsISupports*, char const*, unsigned short const*) <br />
| 67<br />
|}<br />
<br />
3.0b4 topcrashes - slight update, see [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-11-24#QA_Updates|previous meeting]]<br />
<br />
=== Marketing Updates ===<br />
* Slow press week, but some pick up for RC1. [http://ostatic.com/blog/thunderbird-3-0-release-candidate-just-in-time-for-thanksgiving Thunderbird 3.0 Release Candidate: Just in Time for Thanksgiving], [http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-10405070-264.html Mozilla issues near-final Thunderbird 3], [http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/353602/mozilla-ready-to-hatch-thunderbird-3 Mozilla ready to hatch Thunderbird 3]<br />
* Getting things ready for RC 2. <br />
* Other: All Hands next week, [http://addoncon.com/agenda.html Add-on Con] next Friday 12/11, [http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Firefox-ueberholt-in-Deutschland-Microsofts-Internet-Explorer-873082.html Firefox market share (45%) surpasses IE in Germany in recent survey], [http://blog.mozilla.com/extendfirefox/2009/11/30/extend-firefox-3-5-winners/ Extend Firefox 3.5 Winners]<br />
<br />
=== IT update ===<br />
<br />
* Upgraded our Jabber servers to eJabberd 2.1.0<br />
* Pushed 3.0rc1 content live to www.mozillamessaging.com<br />
* Thunderbird 3.0 RC2<br />
* Sunbird 1.0 Beta 1 : <i>In Progress</i><br />
<br />
=== Documentation ===<br />
<br />
Done<br />
<br />
* message tabs article for support knowledge base<br />
* update how-to status and markers<br />
* call for doc help (blog and TB mailing list)<br />
* link / cross-linking to RC1 release notes<br />
* edit Content Tab docs<br />
<br />
TODO / In Progress<br />
<br />
* blog Content Tab docs after response to questions (Standard8)<br />
* edit and link up gloda docs; clean up crufty old stuff<br />
* blog content tabs when finalized<br />
* support doc locations ([https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521665 521665])<br />
* folders ([https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=414038 bug 414038]) <br />
* Mission control / autoconfig: [https://developer.mozilla.org/en/MCD,_Mission_Control_Desktop_AKA_AutoConfig#04110555421111728249 MDC]<br />
* msg headers ([https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=466025 466025], [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=480623 480623])<br />
* new bug for debugging issues? (and close [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=420317 420317]?)<br />
<br />
=== Support ===<br />
# Top 5 GS Thunderbird 2 Support Topics (code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190923 ) basically the same as last week<br />
## Cannot send email <br />
## Cannot receive email ([http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/topics/could_not_connect_to_server_pop_att_yahoo_com_the_connection_was_refused AT&T POP server outage on November 20th])<br />
## migration to Vista and Windows 7 from XP including email and address books and from Outlook and Outlook Express<br />
## attachments not working<br />
# Thunderbird 3 RC1 Top Support Issues (starting to monitor to see what we can improve for post 3.0)<br />
## [http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/topics/tb3rc1_hangs_on_close change tls if available on 2.0 to START TLS in tb3, needs to be done manually in rc1, in rc2 will be done automatically]<br />
## which addons for lightning and google calendar sync<br />
# SUMO for MoMo tracker ticket: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=520628<br />
## Goal is to get initial content and theming done at the end of the week - GS branding is done except for last bit of testing and MoMo footer menu tweaks<br />
## [http://blogs.mozillamessaging.com/roland/2009/11/30/call-for-sumomo-writers/SuMoMo call for writers blog post]<br />
# Key Support stats from the following graphic:<br />
## approximately 29/ day (204/7, slightly higher than last week if we subtract the Raindrop topics)<br />
## total new topics:204 total replies: 372 ([http://gist.github.com/196464 Ruby Code])<br />
### date:20091124 #new support topics:18 resolved:30<br />
### date:20091125 #new support topics:33 resolved:15<br />
### date:20091126 #new support topics:36 resolved:14<br />
### date:20091127 #new support topics:26 resolved:5<br />
### date:20091128 #new support topics:19 resolved:7<br />
### date:20091129 #new support topics:20 resolved:2<br />
### date:20091130 #new support topics:21 resolved:3<br />
## #replies from non MoMo folks: 5 from tanstaafl (thanks and welcome!), 108 from pasa (thanks), 1 from TMZ (thanks) MoMo folks: 1 from Wayne Mery (thanks) 79 from Roland, Bienvenu 30 (thanks!), 2 from Tom (thanks!) 6 from Kent James (thanks) 6 from Lightning team (thanks!), 4 from Andreas (thanks!), 8 from Standard8 (thanks), 1 from asuth (thanks!)<br />
## happiness metric: API doesn't have happiness emotitags, , code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190094, manual happiness metric = 123 - 79 = 44 (30 last week), 40 Hendrix messages (generally Hendrix messages are unhappy but this week we had 1 happy messages) - [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=524801 bug to track down Hendrix for Thunderbird 3 and get rid of it as much as possible]<br />
[[File:24-30Nov09-Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.png|500px]]<br />
<br />
=== Roundtable ===<br />
<br />
==== Status Updates ====<br />
<br />
===== sid0 =====<br />
<br />
===== davida =====<br />
<br />
===== dmose =====<br />
<br />
===== Standard8 =====<br />
<br />
===== asuth =====<br />
<br />
===== bienvenu =====<br />
* Reviews and Driving<br />
* Fixed {{bug|516950}} autoconfig pop3 accounts should be configured to download new mail, put in RC2<br />
* Found an other fix for imap hang on shutdown, with use tls if available set, {{bug|494014}}, and put in RC2<br />
* Removed unused aol pfc code, {{bug|530618}}<br />
* Did a lot of trouble shooting of bugs and Get Satisfaction issues.<br />
<br />
===== gozer =====<br />
<br />
* www.mozillamessaging.com trunk content about 3.0rc1 live<br />
* make package-compare on try server<br />
* staging buildbot gets its mozconfigs from a clone of buildbot-configs<br />
** Testing gcc-4.3.3<br />
* Upgraded jabber cluster to ejabberd-2.1.0 - {{bug|531287}}<br />
* Split up Ganglia graphing per VLAN<br />
<br />
===== clarkbw =====<br />
<br />
===== wsmwk =====<br />
* yet more audit and clean up of crash & hang bugs<br />
* duping of enigmail bugs<br />
* triage<br />
* filed crash & hang bugs: <br />
** {{bug|530845}} [@ nsWindowWatcher::OpenWindowJSInternal(nsIDOMWindow*, char const*, char const*, char const*, int, nsIArray*, int, nsIDOMWindow**)] (not startup)<br />
** {{bug|531294}} crash sending message [@ nsRefPtr<nsCSSFontFaceRule>::assign_assuming_AddRef(nsCSSFontFaceRule*)] due to incompatible version of enigmail<br />
** {{bug|531339}} enigmail [@ nsRefPtr<nsDOMWorkerMessageHandler>::assign_assuming_AddRef(nsDOMWorkerMessageHandler*) | nsRefPtr<nsScreen>::assign_with_AddRef(nsScreen*) | nsMsgComposeAndSend::InitCompositionFields(nsMsgCompFields*, nsACString_internal const&, int)]<br />
** {{bug|531716}} crash [@ nsAbMDBCard::Equals(nsIAbCard*, int*)]<br />
** {{bug|531568}} topcrash [@ nsImapMailCopyState::`vector deleting destructor''(unsigned int)]<br />
** {{bug|531794}} regression [@ nsNntpCacheStreamListener::OnDataAvailable(nsIRequest*, nsISupports*, nsIInputStream*, unsigned int, unsigned int)]<br />
** {{bug|531792}} crash [@ nsImapMailFolder::UpdateImapMailboxInfo]<br />
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=530270 bugzilla whine in bmo is fixed] thanks to justdave, and very handy indeed for timely summary notification of bugs I might care about]. Sample query is 1 day resolution ... longer and shorter resolution (eg 1hr) are possible.<br />
[[File:Bmowhinemajcrit.png|600px]]<br />
<br />
===== beckley =====<br />
<br />
====== Penelope ======<br />
<br />
* Still wrangling with gloda in Search Message window and FUMLUB issues<br />
* Eudora/Penelope Beta still on hold<br />
<br />
===== KaiRo =====<br />
<br />
===== rkent =====<br />
<br />
===== rebron =====<br />
* Working on: <br />
**[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=508461 Bug 508461] see: [http://trunk.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/system-requirements/ draft]<br />
**[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=527021 Bug 527021] see: [http://trunk.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/3.0/details/ draft] <br />
* Supporting pr team for reviews.<br />
* RC 2 work.<br />
* Web site l10n work, looking at about 49 locales for final release.<br />
<br />
===== Tsk =====<br />
<br />
===== andreasn =====<br />
<br />
===== bwinton =====<br />
Done:<br />
* Reviewed {{bug|522253}}, {{bug|516950}}, {{bug|530721}}, and {{bug|518315}}.<br />
* Posted patches for {{bug|530972}}, {{bug|530975}}, and {{bug|527550}}.<br />
* Committed {{bug|522249}}.<br />
* Set up a new VM to test ISPDB under Python 2.4.<br />
* Created an extension to implement {{bug|525070}}.<br />
* Decided to update [http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/weekly-updates.fcgi/user/bwinton my status] weekly on Tuesday mornings.<br />
<br />
Next:<br />
* Continue working on the extension for {{bug|525070}}.<br />
* Drive forward the ISPDB patches.<br />
* Take Thursday off to attend the iPhone Tech Talks.<br />
* Maybe add permalinks to the weekly updates so that I don't need to type this all in twice.<br />
<br />
===== roland =====<br />
<br />
===== sgautherie =====<br />
*Fixed MailNews Core bugs:<br />
**{{bug|271841}} Show full newsgroup name as tooltip for abbreviated newsgroup names<br />
<br />
===== nth10sd =====<br />
<br />
===== Fallen =====<br />
* working on 1.0b1rc1, lots of build related complications<br />
* gozer is doing a great job helping us get the release running.<br />
* future releases will be much easier, working on having buildbot auto-create also localized release lightning builds<br />
* can't make the meeting today, sorry!<br />
<br />
===== jcranmer =====<br />
* Will not be at meeting, but want to mention:<br />
* [http://quetzalcoatal.blogspot.com/2009/11/thunderbird-extensibility.html My biased opinions on extensibility]<br />
* Still working on the extend-C++-in-JS bug, but school is eating up most of my free time right now<br />
<br />
=== Attendees ===<br />
<br />
__NOTOC__</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-11-24&diff=185396Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-11-242009-11-24T17:42:22Z<p>Beckley: /* beckley */</p>
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<div><small>[[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-11-17|last meeting]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings|index]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-12-01|next meeting »]]</small> <br />
<br />
'''Thunderbird Meeting Details'''&nbsp;: <br />
<br />
*[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=11&day=24&hour=17&min=30&sec=0 Tuesday, November 24th, 17:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern) <br />
*[[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]<br />
<br />
== Agenda ==<br />
<br />
*Who's taking minutes? --&gt; '''Ludovic''' <br />
*[http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.<br />
<br />
=== Action Items ===<br />
<br />
==== New ====<br />
<br />
==== Open ====<br />
* Planning for a dry-run security firedrill build<br />
** Fire drill itself expected to happen after code freeze<br />
<br />
==== Closed ====<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:Final|Thunderbird 3]] Developer Update ===<br />
<br />
==== RC 1 ====<br />
<br />
* Build 3 has been produced following a couple of blockers.<br />
* Expecting to publicly release RC 1 Today.<br />
<br />
==== Final ====<br />
<br />
* Blockers are mainly web site updates.<br />
* Remaining blockers are either trackers, or test-only/build changes to support the security & stability releases.<br />
<br />
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Tree_Rules/comm-central#comm-1.9.1 Tree Rules for Thunderbird & 1.9.1 has been updated]<br />
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/Thunderbird3_Security_And_Stability_Releases TB 3 Security and Stability page] created. Intentions:<br />
** Let patch submitters know about process of getting bugs into the security & stability branch.<br />
** Aid tracking of bug fixes into the security & stability releases.<br />
<br />
* Blockers <br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+]: 12 (+4)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=tb3needs&sharer_id=1537 TB 3 Needs]: 1 (0)<br />
* Proposed Blocking <br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 0 (+0)<br />
<br />
* Fixed RC1<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0rc1 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0rc1}}: 155 (+1)<br />
<br />
=== Thunderbird 3.next ===<br />
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Dmose/Tb_Post-3.0_Scratchpad Post 3.0 Roadmap]<br />
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Dmose/Tb_Post-3.1_Scratchpad Post 3.1 Roadmap]<br />
* Tb 3.1 cycle specifics<br />
<br />
=== QA Updates ===<br />
* Testing Build2<br />
* Testing Build3<br />
<br />
* Getting ready for the bugs that will be reported against RC1<br />
<br />
3.0rc1 topcrashes (not representative of what we should expect from 3.0 "release")<br />
{| class="fullwidth-table"<br />
| style="background:#efefef" | '''status'''<br />
| style="background:#efefef" | '''bug'''<br />
| style="background:#efefef" | '''summary'''<br />
| style="background:#efefef" | '''rank'''<br />
|-<br />
| <font color="green">fixed 11-20</font><br />
| {{Bug|529995}}<br />
| columnName<br />
| 1<br />
|-<br />
| <font color="red">Enigmail?</font> <br />
|{{Bug|528843}}<br />
|nsRefPtr<nsSpeculativeScriptThread>::assign_assuming_AddRef<br>(nsSpeculativeScriptThread*)<br />
| 2<br />
|-<br />
| <font color="red">qawanted</font><br />
| {{bug|}}<br />
| [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/list?product=Thunderbird&version=Thunderbird%3A3.0&query_search=signature&query_type=exact&query=&date=&range_value=1&range_unit=weeks&do_query=1&signature=nsRefPtr%3CnsCSSFontFaceRule%3E%3A%3Aassign_assuming_AddRef%28nsCSSFontFaceRule%2A%29 nsRefPtr<nsCSSFontFaceRule>::assign_assuming_AddRef(nsCSSFontFaceRule*)]<br />
| 3<br />
|-<br />
| <font color="red">-</font><br />
| {{Bug|00000}}<br />
| arena_malloc_small <br />
| 4<br />
|-<br />
| <font color="orange">possibly fixed by {{bug|505221}} 10-14</font><br />
| {{Bug|513543}}<br />
| MimeInlineTextHTML_parse_eof<br />
| 5<br />
|}<br />
<br />
3.0b4 topcrashes - slight update, see [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-11-10#QA_Updates|previous meeting]]<br />
<br />
=== Marketing Updates ===<br />
* PR and web site prep for RC 1.<br />
* Coordinating w/ Firefox 3.6 launch.<br />
* [http://www.spreadthunderbird.com/node/582 Top articles for the week Nov 16 - 20]<br />
<br />
=== IT update ===<br />
<br />
* Thunderbird 3.0 RC1 Builds<br />
<br />
=== Documentation ===<br />
<br />
Done / Cleared<br />
<br />
* accounts for ([https://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/ devnews blog]<br />
* finalize Activity Manager docs ([https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Extensions/Thunderbird/HowTos/Activity_Manager examples] [https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Thunderbird/Activity_Manager_interfaces interfaces] [https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Thunderbird/Activity_Manager overview])<br />
* Mozmill as extension dev tool<br />
* [http://blogs.mozillamessaging.com/docs/2009/11/18/activity-manager-docs/ blog] Activity Manager docs<br />
* Contribution: [https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Thunderbird/Gloda_examples Gloda examples]<br />
* Contribution (Standard8): [https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Thunderbird/Content_Tabs Content Tabs in TB3]<br />
<br />
In Progress / TODO<br />
<br />
* Edit [https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Thunderbird/Content_Tabs Content Tabs in TB3]<br />
* support doc locations ([https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521665 521665])<br />
* folders ([https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=414038 bug 414038]) <br />
* Mission control / autoconfig: [https://developer.mozilla.org/en/MCD,_Mission_Control_Desktop_AKA_AutoConfig#04110555421111728249 MDC]<br />
* problem with automatically generated mxr links<br />
* msg headers ([https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=466025 466025], [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=480623 480623])<br />
* new bug for debugging issues? (and close [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=420317 420317]?)<br />
<br />
=== Support ===<br />
# Top 5 GS Thunderbird 2 Support Topics (code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190923 ) basically the same as last week<br />
## Cannot send email <br />
## Cannot receive email ([http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/topics/could_not_connect_to_server_pop_att_yahoo_com_the_connection_was_refused AT&T POP server outage on November 20th])<br />
## migration to Vista and Windows 7 from XP including email and address books and from Outlook and Outlook Express<br />
## attachments not working<br />
## [http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/topics/f_prot_6_0_9_3_reports_a_virus_in_thunderbird_2_0_0_23?topic_tools=open F-Prot false positive as of November 20] - Carsten is looking at it - [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=530582 bug 530582]<br />
# Thunderbird 3 Beta Top Support Issues (starting to monitor to see what we can improve for post 3.0)<br />
## Lots of folks want Thunderbird 3 RC 1 which is great!<br />
# SUMO for MoMo tracker ticket: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=520628<br />
## Gary Cunningham Lee now has full sftp/scp access so theming work should complete next week. Gary also has access for Get Satisfaction MoMo Branding, should be done this week.<br />
## [[Thunderbird/Support/Initial_SuMoMo_content|Initial SuMoMo content complete with bugs for P1 and P2 - help us out! assign yourself a KB bug and write some KB articles]]<br />
# Key Support stats from the following graphic:<br />
## approximately 25/ day (172/7, slightly lower than last week if we subtract the Raindrop topics)<br />
## total new topics:172 total replies: 64 ([http://gist.github.com/196464 Ruby Code])<br />
### date:20091117 #new support topics:20 resolved:16<br />
### date:20091118 #new support topics:27 resolved:9<br />
### date:20091119 #new support topics:22 resolved:9<br />
### date:20091120 #new support topics:26 resolved:12<br />
### date:20091121 #new support topics:16 resolved:3<br />
### date:20091122 #new support topics:12 resolved:2<br />
### date:20091123 #new support topics:11 resolved:3<br />
## #replies from non MoMo folks: 38 from pasa (thanks), 1 from gyurrika (thanks!) MoMo folks: 1 from Wayne Mery (thanks) 78 from Roland, Bienvenu 23 (thanks!), 1 from Tom (thanks!) 1 from Kent James (thanks) 5 from Lighning team (thanks!)<br />
## happiness metric: API doesn't have happiness emotitags, asked GS staff about that, code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190094, manual happiness metric = 108 - 78 = 30 (26 last week), 49 Hendrix messages (generally Hendrix messages are unhappy but this week we had 1 happy messages) - [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=524801 bug to track down Hendrix for Thunderbird 3 and get rid of it as much as possible]<br />
[[File:17-23November_2009_-_Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.png|500px]]<br />
<br />
=== Roundtable ===<br />
<br />
==== Status Updates ====<br />
<br />
===== sid0 =====<br />
<br />
===== davida =====<br />
<br />
===== dmose =====<br />
Last week:<br />
* Drafted longer-term [https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Dmose/Tb_Post-3.0_Scratchpad roadmap] [https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Dmose/Tb_Post-3.1_Scratchpad pages]<br />
* 3.0 driving<br />
* Patch for "Write" with no configured accounts ({{bug|524863}})<br />
* A few short reviews; not as many as hoped<br />
This week:<br />
* Roadmap iteration, including feature & component roadmap driving<br />
* 3.1 planning<br />
* Review catchup<br />
<br />
===== Standard8 =====<br />
<br />
* Reviews (trying to do a few a day to slowly catch up).<br />
* Triage, RC1 bug fixes and respins etc<br />
* {{Bug|529668}} Fixed broken test on trunk<br />
* {{Bug|520797}} In compose message, missing "Display Name" for accounts' from-identities in Sender dropdown<br />
<br />
===== asuth =====<br />
<br />
===== bienvenu =====<br />
* Reviews and Driving<br />
* Fixed {{bug|521867}} IMAP internal date not maintained when detaching attachments<br />
* Made comm central trunk build with moz 1.9.2 after fix for {{bug|515051}} landed {{bug|529057}}<br />
* Fix tabs on trunk by faking out nsIBoxObject along with the tree box object, {{bug|516912}}<br />
* Started working on bugs that missed 3.0 for 3.1<br />
<br />
===== gozer =====<br />
<br />
===== clarkbw =====<br />
<br />
===== wsmwk =====<br />
<br />
===== beckley =====<br />
<br />
====== Penelope ======<br />
<br />
* Dale has the gloda integration with the Search Messages window mostly working now.<br />
* I've been working on a variety of FUMLUB issues, and just general bug fixing/stability.<br />
* Hopefully getting the Eudora 8 beta 8 out next week.<br />
<br />
===== KaiRo =====<br />
<br />
===== rkent =====<br />
<br />
===== rebron =====<br />
* RC1 web site/pr prep.<br />
* Reviewing Web site localization [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Marketing:Thunderbird_Website#Localization_Checklist here's the checklist]<br />
<br />
===== Tsk =====<br />
* Testing<br />
* Testing<br />
* Testing<br />
<br />
===== andreasn =====<br />
Last week:<br />
* Looked up more ISP data and filed some bugs on the isp page<br />
* Icon bugs on Vista and OSX {{Bug|530520}} {{Bug|529933}}<br />
* Lightning icons {{Bug|494598}}<br />
* Uploaded sources<br />
<br />
This week:<br />
* Look into 3 magnifying glasses on 1.9.3 {{Bug|530757}}<br />
* More Lightning icons {{Bug|494598}}<br />
* More ISP data<br />
<br />
===== bwinton =====<br />
Last week:<br />
* Actually closed {{bug|493399}}.<br />
* Reviewed {{bug|526918}}, {{bug|522250}}, {{bug|522251}}, {{bug|522253}}, {{bug|530239}}, {{bug|530503}}, and {{bug|526650}}.<br />
* Posted patches for {{bug|522249}} and {{bug|527550}}.<br />
* Post a lot of experimental patches for {{bug|530047}}.<br />
<br />
This week:<br />
* Review more bugs.<br />
* Write some more code, and tests.<br />
* Continue to help students with ISPDB.<br />
<br />
===== roland =====<br />
<br />
===== sgautherie =====<br />
*Fixed (<i>or in-progress</i>) MailNews Core bugs:<br />
**{{bug|459693}} Eliminate nsFileSpec and nsIFileSpec (references) from MailNews<br />
**<i>{{bug|456860}} Improve msgCompSMIMEOverlay.js and msgReadSMIMEOverlay.js</i><br />
**<i>{{bug|523820}} Remove old MOZILLA_1_9_1_BRANCH ifdefs from comm-central code</i><br />
<br />
===== nth10sd =====<br />
<br />
===== Fallen =====<br />
* Lightning 1.0b1rc1 currently planned for Wednesday<br />
* Held beta release for {{bug|529326}} since it drastically improves performance and is an easy fix.<br />
** Patch checked in, will be contained in tomorrow's nightly<br />
** Simon [http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/calendar/2009/11/november_24_2009_lightningsunb.html blogged] about this today.<br />
* Possible regression {{bug|529853}} needs to be debugged, might further hold up release.<br />
** Patch pending review, will hopefully make it into the tree today<br />
** If so, we can continue with the plan to spin rc1 on Wednesday.<br />
** Nightly users with builds after 2009-11-07 might need to do some manual steps to avoid the error message in the mentioned bug. Will blog about this after the patch is checked in and the nightly is ready.<br />
<br />
=== Attendees ===<br />
<br />
__NOTOC__</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-10-13&diff=175227Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-10-132009-10-13T16:29:22Z<p>Beckley: /* beckley */</p>
<hr />
<div><small>[[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-10-06|last meeting]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings|index]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-10-20|next meeting »]]</small> <br />
<br />
'''Thunderbird Meeting Details'''&nbsp;: <br />
<br />
*[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=10&day=13&hour=16&min=30&sec=0 Tuesday, October 13th, 16:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern) <br />
*[[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]<br />
<br />
== Agenda ==<br />
<br />
*Who's taking minutes? --&gt; '''davida''' <br />
*[http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.<br />
<br />
=== Action Items ===<br />
<br />
==== New ====<br />
<br />
==== Open ====<br />
* Planning for a dry-run security firedrill build<br />
** Split the [[Thunderbird/Releases#TODOs|TODOs]] into two sections to so that we now have a [[Thunderbird/Releases#Must_Have|short list]] of things that we really need to decide on.<br />
** Sent emails asking questions.<br />
** Will discuss remaining with Thunderbird drivers this week (probably via email).<br />
<br />
==== Closed ====<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:Final|Thunderbird 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* Now in String freeze<br />
* Schedule:<br />
** Creation of comm-1.9.1 branch: 2009-10-22 (proposed)<br />
** Code Freeze for RC1: 2009-10-30 23:59 PST<br />
** L10n deadline: 2009-11-02 23:59 PST<br />
** RC1 builds start on: 2009-11-03<br />
** Subsequent RCs as necessary.<br />
<br />
* Blockers <br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+]: 56 (-4)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=tb3needs&sharer_id=1537 TB 3 Needs]: 2 (+1) <br />
* Proposed Blocking <br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 10 (-7)<br />
* Wanted<br />
** {{trackinglist|Wanted Thunderbird 3|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|}}: 274<br />
<br />
* Fixed RC1<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0rc1 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0rc1}}: 82 (+19)<br />
<br />
* Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them. <br />
* If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don't want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.<br />
* If you see what look like theme/css issues, especially on Windows, please file a bug, with a screenshot, and the version of Windows you're running. Tag it with a "polish" keyword, and nominate it for blocking-tb3?.<br />
<br />
=== QA Updates ===<br />
Last week :<br />
* Regular Triage event<br />
* continued Crash monitoring<br />
* Top crasher got a Testcase<br />
* Looked into multilingual QA<br />
<br />
This week :<br />
* Update event - we'll provide support for people updating from older versions of Thunderbird to either 3.0b4 or Latest nightly, more details at : [[Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2009-10-15]]<br />
* Start thinking about testing for rc1<br />
<br />
Topcrashes - 3.0b4 top 6 :<br />
{| class="fullwidth-table"<br />
| style="background:#efefef" | '''status'''<br />
| style="background:#efefef" | '''bug'''<br />
| style="background:#efefef" | '''summary'''<br />
| style="background:#efefef" | '''rank'''<br />
|-<br />
| <font color="green">fixed 2009-10-04</font><br />
| {{Bug|513315}}<br />
| [@ nsScriptSecurityManager::GetCurrentJSContext()]<br />
| 1<br />
|-<br />
|emerging<br />
|__delayLoadHelper2<br />
|<br />
|2<br />
|-<br />
| <font color="green">fixed 2009-09-25</font> <br />
|{{Bug|480090}}<br />
|sending email after being in offline mode [@ morkRowObject::CloseRowObject(morkEnv*)] - [@ nsMsgOfflineImapOperation::SetCopiesToDB - nsMsgOfflineImapOperation::Release]<br />
|3<br />
|-<br />
| <font color="blue">patch pending 2009-10-13</font><br />
| {{Bug|505221}}<br />
|[@ CountTotalMimeAttachments(MimeContainer*) ]<br />
|4<br />
|-<br />
| <font color="red">idle</font><br />
|{{Bug|513543}}<br />
|[@MimeInlineTextHTML_parse_eof ]<br />
|5<br />
|-<br />
| <font color="red">idle</font><br />
|{{ Bug|482849}}<br />
|[@ canonicalize ] while doing a nightly update<br />
|6<br />
|}<br />
<br />
=== Marketing Updates ===<br />
* Press watch: [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203803904574431151489408372.html?mod=rss_US_News#articleTabs%3Dcomments End of the Email Era] worth reading through the comments<br />
* Press tour coordination.<br />
* SpreadThunderbird has new theme on staging, launching with new theme this week.<br />
* Handed off new icon, getting into builds soon. (still need to blog about it)<br />
* Web localization handed off to pascalc and team. A few pages still in progress (release notes, features page needs screen shots, and press release).<br />
<br />
=== IT update ===<br />
<br />
* {{bug|470679}} - l10n nightly updates (complete+partials) available on comm-central trunk<br />
* mini in production, building OS X comm-1.9.1 nightlies flawlessly so far<br />
* {{bug|520628}} - Planning production/staging infrastructure for MoMo SUMO<br />
<br />
=== Documentation ===<br />
<br />
=== Support ===<br />
# Top 5 GS Thunderbird 2 Support Topics (code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190923 ) basically the same as last week with the exception of the AVG anti-virus false positive<br />
## Cannot receive email<br />
## Cannot send email<br />
## [http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/topics/avg_reports_virus_in_thunderbird_2_0_0_23?topic_tools=open AVG false positive for thunderbird 2.0.0.23 and firefox 3.5.3 (thanks to tomcat and sam sidler for their help in IRC to quickly resolve this)]<br />
## address book (how to use, how to export contacts)<br />
## Attachments (attachments not working, corrupted)<br />
# Thunderbird 3 Beta Top Support Issues (not many reported, starting to monitor to see what we can improve for post 3.0)<br />
## ui change complaints (compact header, how to use gloda, gloda complaints)<br />
## excessive gmail bandwidth from imap change to download all email<br />
# SUMO for MoMo tracker ticket: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=520628, spinning up 1.4 instance and beginning to write content this week<br />
# Will engage Campus Reps students in Thunderbird support - call for volunteers email is going out this week<br />
# Key Support stats from the following graphic:<br />
## approximately 11 / day (78/7)<br />
## total new topics:110 total replies: 74 ([http://gist.github.com/196464 Ruby Code])<br />
### date:20091006 #new support topics:17 resolved: 8<br />
### date:20091007 #new support topics:13 resolved: 7<br />
### date:20091008 #new support topics:13 resolved: 3<br />
### date:20091009 #new support topics:10 resolved: 5<br />
### date:20091010 #new support topics:5 resolved: 3<br />
### date:20091011 #new support topics:2 resolved: 0<br />
### date:20091012 #new support topics:1 resolved: 0<br />
## #replies from non MoMo folks:13 from Andrea (thanks!) 4 from Thomas (thanks!) 5 from TMZ (thanks) MoMo folks: 60 from Roland, 7 from Mark Banner (thanks!), Ludo 3 (thanks), Bienvenu 6 (thanks), Bryan 2 (thanks!), Asuth 1 (thanks!)<br />
## happiness metric: API doesn't have happiness emotitags, asked GS staff about that, code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190094, manual happiness metric = 73 - 60 = 13 (28 last week), 50 Hendrix messages (generally Hendreix messages are unhappy)<br />
[[File::6-12October_2009_Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.jpg|500px]]<br />
<br />
=== Roundtable ===<br />
<br />
==== Status Updates ====<br />
<br />
===== sid0 =====<br />
<br />
===== davida =====<br />
<br />
===== dmose =====<br />
<br />
===== Standard8 =====<br />
<br />
* Reviews and Driving<br />
* Thinking about security releases.<br />
* A little bit of holiday.<br />
* [http://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/rev/41a1857f1987 Resolved issue] with trunk builds that stopped updates (and ssl) working.<br />
* {{Bug|520977}} Dock icon doesn't reset when it gets to zero unread messages.<br />
* {{bug|338549}} Mailnews account password prompts at startup no longer serial.<br />
** Happy with POP3 patch but a tester suggested it may not be quite right, need to investigate more.<br />
<br />
===== asuth =====<br />
<br />
===== bienvenu =====<br />
* Reviews and Driving<br />
* Fix hang on shutdown if you shutdown immediately after closing a compose window where you've done autocomplete against ssl ldap, {{bug|420744}}<br />
* fix retention settings getting propagated from folder to server and thus to all folders on the server, {{bug|515316}} <br />
* Make empty trash on smart folder empty all the trashes, {{bug|517723}}<br />
* Only display start page once per life of thread pane/tab, part of {{bug|520272}}, speed up opening folders <br />
* Make sure streaming imap messages with aLocalOnly set doesn't sometimes fetch message from server, especially for compact offline store case, {{bug|519801}}<br />
* Remove new mail account from old mail wizard for tb, {{bug|515479}}<br />
* Clear pendingRemoval attribute after applying retention settings in case retention settings change so we don't keep purging messages that no longer should be purged, and then redownloading them, {{bug|521134}}<br />
* Detect empty upload file earlier on in process so we don't get left hanging with an unfinished url, and keep trying to playback the offline upload, {{bug|497598}}<br />
<br />
===== gozer =====<br />
<br />
* Build<br />
** l10n updates live on comm-central trunk<br />
** momo-vm-leopard-02 imaged from a mini is in staging<br />
** Wrangled an interesting Apple gcc-4.2 bug {{bug|520401}}<br />
<br />
* Web<br />
** MoMo SUMO {{bug|520628}} work in progress<br />
<br />
* Infrastructure<br />
** Production/Staging setup for SUMO<br />
<br />
===== clarkbw =====<br />
<br />
===== wsmwk =====<br />
<br />
===== beckley =====<br />
<br />
====== Penelope ======<br />
<br />
* Some fixes to Who column display and some of the gloda integration to search, plus some auto-open mailbox improvements<br />
<br />
* Hoping to get a new beta of Eudora/Penelope out this week<br />
<br />
===== KaiRo =====<br />
<br />
===== rkent =====<br />
<br />
===== rebron =====<br />
<br />
===== Tsk =====<br />
* see the QA update.<br />
<br />
===== andreasn =====<br />
* Last week:<br />
** Various polish fixes {{Bug|522020}}, {{Bug|491294}}, {{Bug|522014}}, {{Bug|508548}}, {{Bug|521813}}<br />
** Header buttons on mac {{Bug|520819}}<br />
** Autoconfig dialog stuff {{Bug|515390}}<br />
<br />
* This week<br />
** Implement Thunderbird icon across the application {{Bug|519580}}<br />
** Autoconfig dialog odd in some locales {{Bug|515390}}<br />
** Header pane nits {{Bug|521334}}<br />
** Feature change page look&feel bug {{Bug|516884}}<br />
** New message status {{Bug|516860}}<br />
<br />
===== bwinton =====<br />
Last week:<br />
* Closed {{bug|494430}}, {{bug|490430}}, {{bug|518586}}, and {{bug|520457}}.<br />
* Posted patches to {{bug|519505}}.<br />
* Reviewed {{bug|511417}}, {{bug|519916}}, and {{bug|519110}}.<br />
<br />
This week:<br />
* Continue to help students with ISPDB.<br />
* More work on the rest of my blockers, and maybe start into some tb3-wanted.<br />
<br />
===== roland =====<br />
<br />
===== sgautherie =====<br />
*Fixed (<i>or in-progress</i>) MailNews Core bugs:<br />
**<i>{{bug|513709}} configure.in: Remove some useless vars, mozilla-* ones are enough</i><br />
<br />
===== nth10sd =====<br />
<br />
=== Attendees ===<br />
<br />
__NOTOC__</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-09-29&diff=171936Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-09-292009-09-29T16:40:42Z<p>Beckley: /* beckley */</p>
<hr />
<div><small>[[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-09-22|last meeting]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings|index]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-10-06|next meeting »]]</small> <br />
<br />
'''Thunderbird Meeting Details'''&nbsp;: <br />
<br />
*[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=09&day=29&hour=16&min=30&sec=0 Tuesday, September 29th, 16:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern) <br />
*[[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]<br />
<br />
== Agenda ==<br />
<br />
*Who's taking minutes? --&gt; '''gozer''' <br />
*[http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.<br />
<br />
=== Action Items ===<br />
<br />
==== New ====<br />
<br />
==== Open ====<br />
<br />
* We should engage the beta testing community in helping with the what's new and release notes pages, especially explaining why we've changed things, and how to get back to the old behavior. jenzed suggested an MDC page. (jz: see https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Thunderbird_3_for_users)<br />
* Planning for a dry-run security firedrill build<br />
<br />
==== Closed ====<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:Final|Thunderbird 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* Schedule (proposed, may change):<br />
** Final l10n String Freeze: Tuesday 29th Sept 23:59 PST<br />
** Aiming to start RC1 builds on: 3rd Nov.<br />
** Subsequent RCs as necessary.<br />
<br />
* Blockers <br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+]: 66 (-1)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=tb3needs&sharer_id=1537 TB 3 Needs]: 2 (0) <br />
* Proposed Blocking <br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 6 (-14)<br />
* Wanted<br />
** {{trackinglist|Wanted Thunderbird 3|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|}}: 275<br />
<br />
* Fixed RC1<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0rc1 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0rc1}}: 39<br />
<br />
* Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them. <br />
* If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don't want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.<br />
* If you see what look like theme/css issues, especially on Windows, please file a bug, with a screenshot, and the version of Windows you're running. Tag it with a "polish" keyword, and nominate it for blocking-tb3?.<br />
<br />
=== QA Updates ===<br />
<br />
3.0b4 topcrashers top 6. Note, all are *new* but 1.<br />
* mime - {{Bug|505221}} - crash [@ CountTotalMimeAttachments(MimeContainer*)]<br />
* database - {{Bug|513315}} - crash [@ nsScriptSecurityManager::GetCurrentJSContext()]<br />
* backend - {{Bug|480090}} - Crash when sending email after being in offline mode [@ morkRowObject::CloseRowObject(morkEnv*)] - [@ nsMsgOfflineImapOperation::SetCopiesToDB - nsMsgOfflineImapOperation::Release]<br />
* mime - {{Bug|513543}} - Crash [@MimeInlineTextHTML_parse_eof ]<br />
* database - {{Bug|518671}} - crash [@ nsXPConnect::GetRuntimeInstance()]<br />
* unknown - {{Bug|518807}} - startup crash [@ nsRefPtr<ISearchManager>::StartAssignment()]<br />
<br />
last week:<br />
* Tried having simple thing to get more people onboard - Got one user who participated.<br />
* Catching up on new crashers due to b4 being released - and monitoring closely<br />
* Didn't catchup on litmus yet<br />
* Activity in bugzilla seems to be going up<br />
<br />
This week :<br />
* Normal regular bug day<br />
* Working on migration Day<br />
<br />
Next week :<br />
* Migration day testing<br />
** Migrate from 1.5<br />
** Migrate from 2.0.x<br />
And we'll gather the data that can be gathered and get return of experience on it.<br />
<br />
=== Marketing Updates ===<br />
* Press Watch: 43 total articles for Beta 4 [http://download.cnet.com/8301-2007_4-10359263-12.html Latest Thunderbird rolls search changes] 40k downloads to date<br />
* Coordinating with German and French pr firms.<br />
* Reviewer's Guide on target for 9/30, working through marketing messaging w/ board members.<br />
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Marketing:Thunderbird_Website Localization Checklist] Working with Simon on announcement to l10n teams via blog post.<br />
* Reviewing new SpreadThunderbird theme mockups w/ stb team. Thanks to Roland for finding the volunteer to help out.<br />
<br />
=== IT update ===<br />
[[File:Thunderbird-beta4-01.png|260px|thumb|right|[http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aoa-uDxDnUcYdGFSZHhVTnBnZ0ltZGNYVlBTZ2xnV2c&hl=en Thunderbird Beta 4]]]<br />
<br />
* Thunderbird 3 Beta 4 Uptake<br />
** Beta 4 visits: 51k, Beta 3 max visits: 23k<br />
** Beta 4 AUS pings: 18k vs Beta 3 max AUS pings: 21k<br />
* Minis are building in the [http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/ThunderbirdTest ThunderbirdTest] tree, looking promising<br />
<br />
=== Documentation ===<br />
* compact header <br />
* form fill <br />
* debugging Mac / Linux <br />
* autoconfig / mission control<br />
* collapsed threads<br />
* activity manager<br />
* folders<br />
* move leak and bloat test docs from wiki to MDC<br />
<br />
=== Support ===<br />
# Top 5 GS Support Topics (code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190923 )<br />
## Cannot receive email (hotmail, other POP, imap)<br />
## Cannot send email<br />
## Cannot read old email (compact folders seems to fix it, sometimes have to create new profile and migrate old email into new profile)<br />
## Cannot migrate email from old profile to new profile or old computer to new computer<br />
## Address Book (not visible, can't undelete, lost)<br />
## Attachments (attachments not working, corrupted)<br />
# [[Thunderbird/Support/Thunderbird3/SupportPlan|Support Plan for Thunderbird 3]]<br />
## SUMO evaluation basically finished - have verified you can do localized knowledge base (i.e. create/modify in English, translate/modify in French) and can customize to remove Firefox-isms, will add link to report today (David Tenser needs report for MozCamp Europe)<br />
## [[Thunderbird/Support/Thunderbird3/InitialKBDocuments|Top 10 Support Issues and Top 5 New Thunderbird 3 Features for Knowledge Base]]<br />
# Key Support stats from the following graphic:<br />
## approximately 15 / day (104/7)<br />
## total new topics:104 total replies: 120 ([http://gist.github.com/196464 Ruby Code])<br />
### date:20090922 #new support topics:15 resolved:7<br />
### date:20090923 #new support topics:19 resolved:10<br />
### date:20090924 #new support topics:12 resolved:6<br />
### date:20090925 #new support topics:18 resolved:13<br />
### date:20090926 #new support topics:9 resolved:1<br />
### date:20090927 #new support topics:4 resolved:5<br />
### date:20090928 #new support topics:10 resolved:8 <br />
## #replies from non MoMo folks: 2 from Lightning folks (thanks Martin and Philip!) 4 from TMZ MoMo folks: 82 from Roland, 5 from Mark Banner<br />
## happiness metric: API doesn't have happiness emotitags, asked GS staff about that, code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190094, manual happiness metric = 107 - 82 = 25<br />
[[File:22-28Sep2009-Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.jpg|500px]]<br />
<br />
=== Roundtable ===<br />
<br />
==== Status Updates ====<br />
<br />
===== sid0 =====<br />
<br />
===== davida =====<br />
<br />
===== dmose =====<br />
* driving<br />
* reviews<br />
* message header toolbar customization work {{bug|465138}}<br />
<br />
===== Standard8 =====<br />
<br />
* Reviews & Driving<br />
* Held [[Releases/Thunderbird_3.0b4/Post_Mortem|b4 post-mortem]].<br />
* {{Bug|519041}} Implemented context menu for context tabs (shared with message context menu).<br />
* Added about:license to the list of about dialog items - remaining part of {{Bug|480533}}.<br />
* {{Bug|505558}} Improved about dialog buttons so locales aren't struggling for horizontal width.<br />
* {{Bug|518175}} Stop stripping mac nightlies.<br />
<br />
===== asuth =====<br />
<br />
===== bienvenu =====<br />
* Reviews and Driving<br />
* Added autosync pr logging {{bug|518768}}<br />
* Fixed empty new mail alert, {{bug|459045}}<br />
* Make imap offline sync pay attention to db's getting closed, should fix crash in morkRowObject::CloseRowObject {{bug|480090}}<br />
* Handle case of duplicate special folders in an account, with smart folder mode, {{bug|516923}}<br />
* Cleanup some of our shutdown w/ cleanup on exit handling to try to help with hangs on exit, {{bug|494014}}<br />
* Relax size comparison on offline store messages because we seem to be off by one with gmail messages, stops autosync from stalling/repeatedly downloading messages {{bug|517466}}<br />
* Use server's identity for archive folder, if found, otherwise use hdr/x-mozilla-account key to determine identity, {{bug|511780}}<br />
* Several other fixes awaiting reviews.<br />
<br />
===== gozer =====<br />
<br />
* Build<br />
** Mac Minis imaged and running<br />
** Better staging buildbot<br />
** buildbot/buildbotcustom updates<br />
** Question: How does one sanely netboots+reimages minis 100% remotely/unattended ?<br />
<br />
* Web<br />
** ISPDB : Bugzilla component to the "Mozilla Messaging" product, file bugs!<br />
<br />
* Infrastructure<br />
** Nice traffic increase due to beta4<br />
** Some performance improvements to the start page<br />
** DNS server updates<br />
<br />
===== clarkbw =====<br />
<br />
===== wsmwk =====<br />
<br />
===== beckley =====<br />
<br />
====== Penelope ======<br />
<br />
* Who column changes only blocker for next beta of Eudora 8/Penelope<br />
* Added a pref which controls whether the application quits when the user closes the main window<br />
* Working on a feature where selection change in the folder pane doesn't update the mailbox displayed, but double-click (or Enter or some right-click context menu items) will open up the mailbox in a new tab/window<br />
* Fixed the shortcut problems that were happening on Mac<br />
* Lots of little bug fixes for the upcoming beta<br />
<br />
===== KaiRo =====<br />
<br />
===== rkent =====<br />
In the last week I completed a slew of bugs (that I can now checkin myself):<br />
<br />
* {{Bug|515927}} - Marking message as not spam doesn't clear deleted flag from message<br />
* {{Bug|517996}} - Tools|Delete Mail Marked As Junk Folder not working in 20090921 nightly<br />
* {{Bug|518667}} - crash [@ nsImapMailFolder::UpdateFolderWithListener(nsIMsgWindow*, nsIUrlListener*)]<br />
* {{Bug|505949}} - Junk folder on Local Folders not created and possible data loss<br />
* {{Bug|462578}} - Implement Quick Search option "Subject, Sender or Recipient" (Subject, From, To, CC or BCC) to allow filtering for full conversations with a contact easily<br />
* {{Bug|518188}} - Body search term not available in Search Messages when "in" is an account<br />
* {{Bug|518565}} - crash [@nsMsgFilterList::LoadTextFilters(nsIInputStream*) ]<br />
* {{Bug|518846}} - search in searchbar should search by subject, from, to, cc, bcc<br />
<br />
I have a couple of bugs in for review, neither of which are critical for TB3/SM2. Otherwise, although I watch the bug reports and user comments for issues in my areas, I am mostly focused on my extensions, which are way, way behind the backend features that have been implemented.<br />
<br />
===== rebron =====<br />
<br />
===== Tsk =====<br />
* Finishing touches to 3.0b4<br />
* usual bizness<br />
<br />
This week :<br />
* Preparing Eu moz camp 2009 talk<br />
* Preparing Migration Day for next week<br />
* usual bizness<br />
<br />
===== andreasn =====<br />
<br />
===== bwinton =====<br />
Last week:<br />
* Closed {{bug|509044}}, and {{bug|478989}}.<br />
* Posted a patch for {{bug|519429}}.<br />
* Started work on {{bug|490430}}.<br />
* Reviewed {{bug|518851}}, and {{bug|518840}}.<br />
* Created {{bug|518614}}, and {{bug|519277}}.<br />
* Code Sprint at U of T!!!<br />
* Helped dmose with Windows css changes for {{bug|465138}}.<br />
<br />
This week:<br />
* Continue to help students with ISPDB.<br />
* More work on {{bug|515371}}, and the rest of my blockers.<br />
* General autoconfig error-handling cleanup.<br />
<br />
===== roland =====<br />
<br />
Last week:<br />
* coordination work with potential new Spread Thunderbird theme and designer, Hubert Florin of agentic.ca<br />
<br />
This week<br />
* perhaps get working Spread Thunderbird theme to test from Hubert Florin<br />
* get material to David Tenser for MozCamp Europe support presentation<br />
* look at possibly getting campus students to help out with support<br />
<br />
===== nth10sd =====<br />
<br />
=== Attendees ===<br />
<br />
__NOTOC__</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-09-15&diff=168515Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-09-152009-09-15T16:38:59Z<p>Beckley: /* beckley */</p>
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<div><small>[[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-09-08|last meeting]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings|index]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-09-22|next meeting »]]</small> <br />
<br />
'''Thunderbird Meeting Details'''&nbsp;: <br />
<br />
*[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=09&day=15&hour=16&min=30&sec=0 Tuesday, September 15th, 16:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern) <br />
*[[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]<br />
<br />
== Agenda ==<br />
<br />
*Who's taking minutes? --&gt; '''Bienvenu''' <br />
*[http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.<br />
<br />
=== Action Items ===<br />
<br />
==== New ====<br />
<br />
==== Open ====<br />
<br />
* Autoconfig process<br />
** Mostly on hold during b4 push<br />
** Webapp currently being tested to fix some initial problems, will open up for broader testing soon<br />
** davida will be working with gozer on moving the webapp into a preview release<br />
** hopefully getting some review time from a django person<br />
** bwinton has been coordinating with Greg and students<br />
*** 5 students across Canada<br />
** Join the [http://groups.google.ca/group/ispdb ISPDB Google Group] to participate in the discussion<br />
<br />
==== Closed ====<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird/Thunderbird 3.0b4|Thunderbird 3 Beta 4]] ===<br />
<br />
* [[Releases/Thunderbird_3.0b4|Build Process Started]]<br />
* This week QA testing builds and release note preparations.<br />
<br />
* Blockers/Wanted <br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b4&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b4}} 2 (-26) <br />
* Proposed Blocking (all milestones) <br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 6 (-11) <br />
* Fixed: <br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b4}} 123 (+41)<br />
* 42 locales<br />
* Release Driver: Standard8<br />
* Build Engineer: gozer<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:Final|Thunderbird 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* Schedule (proposed, may change):<br />
** Final l10n String Freeze: Tuesday 29th Sept 23:59 PST<br />
** Approvals/Blockers only: from Tuesday 6th October 23:59 PST<br />
** Aiming to start RC1 builds on: 3rd Nov.<br />
** Subsequent RCs as necessary.<br />
<br />
* Blockers <br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+] 63 (+4)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/chart.cgi?category=-All-&subcategory=-All-&name=1183&label0=Thunderbird+TB+3+Blockers&line0=1936&label1=MailNews+Core+TB+3+Blockers&line1=1937&gt=1&labelgt=Grand+Total&datefrom=2009-07-25&dateto=&action-wrap=Chart+This+List Chart]<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=tb3needs&sharer_id=1537 TB 3 Needs]: 3 (-1) <br />
* Proposed Blocking <br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 6 (-11)<br />
* Wanted<br />
** {{trackinglist|Wanted Thunderbird 3|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|}} 267<br />
<br />
* Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them. <br />
* If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don't want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.<br />
<br />
=== QA Updates ===<br />
* We had a interesting test day - with many bugs being filled. Thanks to everybody who participated. Thank you to everyone who participated.<br />
* New search component under Thunderbird (see wswmk's update)<br />
<br />
* We are working on testing Thunderbird 3.0b4 this week. The sign-in system is good and we might have reached critical masses in order for that system to work.<br />
** if you want to participate send me an email with the os you are using (ludovic@mozillamessaging.com)<br />
** Starting to monitor Crash-stats for higher usage of the first official build.<br />
<br />
=== Marketing Updates ===<br />
* Press watch: [http://lifehacker.com/5354314/how-to-access-gmail-when-its-down?skyline=true&s=x How to Access Gmail When It’s Down]; [http://www.itworld.com/software/76807/firefox-thunderbird-tweaks-and-add-ons-worth-looking IT World: Firefox, Thunderbird tweaks and add ons worth looking at]<br />
* Coordinating with European and Japan teams on press tour, nailing down strategies and schedule.<br />
* Sat in on Mozilla Marketing/Evangelism all hands/work week.<br />
* Final iteration of logo with different sizes later this week.<br />
* Drafted reviewer's guide and press tour demo.<br />
<br />
=== IT update ===<br />
<br />
* SUMO 1.3 installed in Preview<br />
* Release automation<br />
* Looking at expanding build capacity (esp. on OS X)<br />
<br />
=== Documentation ===<br />
<br />
* first draft of tutorial is now "live" https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Building_a_Thunderbird_extension<br />
** cruft removed<br />
** content updated and "Thunderbirdified"<br />
** structured to allow for plugging-in other code samples (extensibility)<br />
* working on dev-doc-needed bugs<br />
* editing / consulting with Roland / support<br />
* housekeeping how-tos (cleaning up new structure, tagging, linking, etc)<br />
<br />
=== Support ===<br />
<br />
# Top 5 GS Support Topics<br />
## How to access and receive Hotmail from POP<br />
## Email all gone/disappeared<br />
## Thunderbird won't start on Windows<br />
## Unable to transfer email from Windows to Windows<br />
## Cannot send email - get password prompt<br />
# [[Thunderbird/Support/Thunderbird3/SupportPlan|Draft Support Plan for Thunderbird 3]] - to be heavily iterated this week with rebron<br />
# Support Day: September 17, 2009, 9:30-5p.m. Pacific including Vancouver Mozilla Service Week event in the afternoon:<br />
## https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/Support/GetSatisfaction/GSDay20090917<br />
# SUMO as Knowledge Base for MoMo evaluation in progress with gozer<br />
# Key Support stats from the following graphic:<br />
## approximately 15 / day<br />
## total new topics:82 total replies: 72 - fell a wee bit behind because of the long weekend<br />
## have ruby code in progress to semi-automate metrics, relies on manual tagging<br />
## #replies from non MoMo folks: 4 from Tom (thanks!) MoMo folks: 8 from Standard8 (thanks!), 2 from Rafael (thanks!) to be filled in later new users:<br />
## happiness metric: to be filled in<br />
[[File:8-14September2009Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.jpg|500px]]<br />
<br />
=== Roundtable ===<br />
<br />
==== Status Updates ====<br />
<br />
===== sid0 =====<br />
* Landed {{Bug|515151}}.<br />
* Still working on {{Bug|507593}}.<br />
<br />
===== davida =====<br />
<br />
===== dmose =====<br />
* message header coding and review work<br />
* misc driving<br />
<br />
===== Standard8 =====<br />
<br />
* Reviews and Driving<br />
* {{Bug|514858}} Cannot disable Shredder start page, regardless of setting<br />
* Finally able to push - {{Bug|511240}} Provide feedback for loading of content within content tabs - as the core patch went into 1.9.1.<br />
* Satchel is now built by default in TB 3 (bug 510378).<br />
* Got an initial patch semi-working for pop3 on {{bug|338549}} Mailnews account password prompts at startup no longer serial.<br />
<br />
===== asuth =====<br />
<br />
===== bienvenu =====<br />
* Reviews and Driving<br />
* Make sure smart folders persist the sort settings when we sort, {{bug|516143}}<br />
* fix temporary hang leaving saved search folders before the search completes, {{bug|516388}}<br />
* Fallback to all folders mode if we get an error starting up in folder pane rebuild, {{bug|516176}}<br />
* Fix deleting from gloda search results view, {{bug|515860}}<br />
* Make smart folders the default mode, and add new special folders to the right place in smart folders, {{bug|492922}}<br />
* Don't bother the user with imap alerts about failed connections when shutting down, potentially part of {{bug|494014}}<br />
* Fixed {{bug|515516}} smart folders accounts gets marked as local mail folder account, preventing us from creating an actual local folders account<br />
* Fix initial sort of listed faceted search results, which fixed a crash showing that list.<br />
* Make auto config the wizard for new profiles, {{bug|511308}}<br />
<br />
Next week:<br />
* On vacation Aug 16-18th<br />
* rc1 blockers<br />
<br />
===== gozer =====<br />
<br />
* Thunderbird 3 Beta 4!<br />
* Sunbird OS X l10n repacks working again<br />
<br />
===== clarkbw =====<br />
<br />
===== wsmwk =====<br />
~4 weeks of info<br />
* {{Bug|442222}} Update About > Credits for Thunderbird3<br />
** major updates of credits is in 3.0b4, as described in the bug<br />
** will post to mdat and drivers about accepting nominations after webform has been updated. please make nominations for credits based on the webform description (which may change shortly). We are using a criteria of the person made a significant contribution to a feature or features in thunderbird 3 / made a significant investment of time, with useful results ... contributions can range from dev to bug triage to QA to marketing and more. Note, this is somewhat broader than "the release would not have happened were it not for their involvement."<br />
* monitoring crash stats and crash bugs for 3.0b4. filed:<br />
** {{Bug|513315}} crash [@ nsScriptSecurityManager::GetCurrentJSContext()]<br />
** {{Bug|512171}} crash [@ nsWindowSH::GetProperty(nsIXPConnectWrappedNative*, JSContext*, JSObject*, int, int*, int*)]<br />
** {{Bug|515243}} startup crash [@ nsGetInterface::operator()(nsID const&, void**)]<br />
** {{Bug|515999}} crash [@ nsTHashtable<nsBaseHashtableET<nsCStringHashKey, nsCString> >::s_InitEntry(PLDHashTable*, PLDHashEntryHdr*, void const*)]<br />
** {{Bug|516047}} crash [@ nsXULTreeGridCellAccessible::GetAttributesInternal(nsIPersistentProperties*)] (3.1a1 topcrash)<br />
** {{Bug|512678}} crash [@ nsPurpleBuffer::Put(nsISupports*)] during address autocomplete<br />
** {{Bug|516427}} crash (no laughing allowed)<br />
* bug triage<br />
* banging on gloda / search - looking good<br />
* updated [[QA/Community/Bug_Watchers#Thunderbird_Components_-_Default_QA_Contact|Component Watch List wiki]]<br />
* search component<br />
** facet + gloda front end bugs (fixed and open) moved to search component<br />
** quick search bugs (open) moved to search component<br />
** do we want Search Messages and saved search folders to move to search component? thinking yes for SM and no for saved search (i.e. keep in folders and message list)<br />
** waiting on moving more - many should be triaged rather than just mass moved, [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=search+&product=Thunderbird&resolution=---&chfieldto=Now&field0-0-0=component&type0-0-0=nowordssubstr&value0-0-0=address+search+prefer&field0-1-0=longdesc&type0-1-0=substring&value0-1-0=quick like this subset] (55 bugs). [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=search+&product=Thunderbird&resolution=---&chfieldto=Now&field0-0-0=component&type0-0-0=nowordssubstr&value0-0-0=address+search+prefer&field0-1-0=longdesc&type0-1-0=nowordssubstr&value0-1-0=quick there are many more] (184 bugs)<br />
** set your bugmail watches to search@thunderbird.bugs!<br />
* setup vista build environment<br />
* hosted Gary for 2 weeks - a good guest!<br />
<br />
===== beckley =====<br />
<br />
====== Penelope ======<br />
<br />
* Some issues with the recent Eudora/Penelope beta are having us do a new beta based on TB 3.0b4 source code. Will be out soon after TB 3.0b4 is released.<br />
<br />
* Having problems with arrow keys and Cut/Copy/Paste/Undo/Redo/SelectAll shortcuts not working in composition windows on Mac. Other shortcuts work, but having trouble figuring out what's causing those few not to work.<br />
<br />
===== KaiRo =====<br />
*Released SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 2 on Saturday - now has tabmail and can install Lightning!<br />
<br />
===== rkent =====<br />
<br />
===== rebron =====<br />
Last week:<br />
* More press tour/end game planning.<br />
* Meetings w/ various mozilla marketing/evangelism folks.<br />
<br />
This week:<br />
* Focus on b4, web site content, press handling.<br />
* Prep for following meeting with board/mitchell.<br />
* Tb 3 press demo dry run next week (maybe).<br />
<br />
===== Tsk =====<br />
Last week :<br />
* Organized test day<br />
* Organized test week<br />
* Participated to Faceted search test day<br />
* Following and participated in Litmus 2 discussions<br />
* Triage<br />
<br />
Upcoming week :<br />
* Release testing for 3.0b4<br />
* Release testing for 3.0b4<br />
* Release testing for 3.0b4<br />
<br />
===== andreasn =====<br />
* Last week:<br />
** Lots of Gloda faceting mockups and css {{Bug|515653}} {{Bug|516261}}<br />
** Quick account setup work {{Bug|506290}}<br />
** Vista icon fixes {{Bug|516384}}<br />
<br />
* This week:<br />
** More faceting layout work<br />
** And blog about the process<br />
** Account preferences sizes {{Bug|416263}} {{Bug|516472}} {{Bug|516586}}<br />
** Vista autoconfig a11y issues<br />
<br />
===== bwinton =====<br />
Last week:<br />
* Closed {{bug|506290}}, {{bug|490143}}, {{bug|490418}}, {{bug|501910}}, {{bug|465269}}, {{bug|470416}}, and {{bug|516087}}.<br />
* Got something checked in for {{bug|516353}}.<br />
* Reviewed {{bug|511308}}, and {{bug|492922}}.<br />
* Created {{bug|515426}}.<br />
<br />
This week:<br />
* Help students get started on ISPDB.<br />
* More work on {{bug|516353}}, {{bug|509044}}, {{bug|515371}}<br />
<br />
===== roland =====<br />
<br />
===== nth10sd =====<br />
<br />
=== Attendees ===<br />
bwinton<br />
__NOTOC__</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-09-15&diff=168511Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-09-152009-09-15T16:31:17Z<p>Beckley: /* beckley */</p>
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<br />
'''Thunderbird Meeting Details'''&nbsp;: <br />
<br />
*[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=09&day=15&hour=16&min=30&sec=0 Tuesday, September 15th, 16:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern) <br />
*[[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]<br />
<br />
== Agenda ==<br />
<br />
*Who's taking minutes? --&gt; '''Bienvenu''' <br />
*[http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.<br />
<br />
=== Action Items ===<br />
<br />
==== New ====<br />
<br />
==== Open ====<br />
<br />
* Autoconfig process<br />
** Webapp currently being tested to fix some initial problems, will open up for broader testing soon<br />
** davida will be working with gozer on moving the webapp into a preview release<br />
** hopefully getting some review time from a django person<br />
** bwinton has been coordinating with Greg and students<br />
*** 5 students across Canada<br />
** Join the [http://groups.google.ca/group/ispdb ISPDB Google Group] to participate in the discussion<br />
<br />
==== Closed ====<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird/Thunderbird 3.0b4|Thunderbird 3 Beta 4]] ===<br />
<br />
* [[Releases/Thunderbird_3.0b4|Build Process Started]]<br />
* This week QA testing builds and release note preparations.<br />
<br />
* Blockers/Wanted <br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b4&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b4}} 2 (-26) <br />
* Proposed Blocking (all milestones) <br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 6 (-11) <br />
* Fixed: <br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b4}} 123 (+41)<br />
<br />
* Release Driver: Standard8<br />
* Build Engineer: gozer<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:Final|Thunderbird 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* Schedule (proposed, may change):<br />
** Final l10n String Freeze: Tuesday 29th Sept 23:59 PST<br />
** Approvals/Blockers only: from Tuesday 6th October 23:59 PST<br />
** Aiming to start RC1 builds on: 3rd Nov.<br />
** Subsequent RCs as necessary.<br />
<br />
* Blockers <br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+] 63 (+4)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/chart.cgi?category=-All-&subcategory=-All-&name=1183&label0=Thunderbird+TB+3+Blockers&line0=1936&label1=MailNews+Core+TB+3+Blockers&line1=1937&gt=1&labelgt=Grand+Total&datefrom=2009-07-25&dateto=&action-wrap=Chart+This+List Chart]<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=tb3needs&sharer_id=1537 TB 3 Needs]: 3 (-1) <br />
* Proposed Blocking <br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 6 (-11)<br />
* Wanted<br />
** {{trackinglist|Wanted Thunderbird 3|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|}} 267<br />
<br />
* Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them. <br />
* If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don't want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.<br />
<br />
=== QA Updates ===<br />
* We had a interesting test day - with many bugs being filled. Thanks to everybody who participated. Thank you to everyone who participated.<br />
* New search component under Thunderbird (see wswmk's update)<br />
<br />
* We are working on testing Thunderbird 3.0b4 this week. The sign-in system is good and we might have reached critical masses in order for that system to work.<br />
** if you want to participate send me an email with the os you are using (ludovic@mozillamessaging.com)<br />
** Starting to monitor Crash-stats for higher usage of the first official build.<br />
<br />
=== Marketing Updates ===<br />
* Press watch: [http://lifehacker.com/5354314/how-to-access-gmail-when-its-down?skyline=true&s=x How to Access Gmail When It’s Down]; [http://www.itworld.com/software/76807/firefox-thunderbird-tweaks-and-add-ons-worth-looking IT World: Firefox, Thunderbird tweaks and add ons worth looking at]<br />
* Coordinating with European and Japan teams on press tour, nailing down strategies and schedule.<br />
* Sat in on Mozilla Marketing/Evangelism all hands/work week.<br />
* Final iteration of logo with different sizes later this week.<br />
* Drafted reviewer's guide and press tour demo.<br />
<br />
=== IT update ===<br />
<br />
* SUMO 1.3 installed in Preview<br />
* Release automation<br />
* Looking at expanding build capacity (esp. on OS X)<br />
<br />
=== Documentation ===<br />
<br />
* first draft of tutorial is now "live" https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Building_a_Thunderbird_extension<br />
** cruft removed<br />
** content updated and "Thunderbirdified"<br />
** structured to allow for plugging-in other code samples (extensibility)<br />
* working on dev-doc-needed bugs<br />
* editing / consulting with Roland / support<br />
* housekeeping how-tos (cleaning up new structure, tagging, linking, etc)<br />
<br />
=== Support ===<br />
<br />
# Top 5 GS Support Topics<br />
## How to access and receive Hotmail from POP<br />
## Email all gone/disappeared<br />
## Thunderbird won't start on Windows<br />
## Unable to transfer email from Windows to Windows<br />
## Cannot send email - get password prompt<br />
# [[Thunderbird/Support/Thunderbird3/SupportPlan|Draft Support Plan for Thunderbird 3]] - to be heavily iterated this week with rebron<br />
# Support Day: September 17, 2009, 9:30-5p.m. Pacific including Vancouver Mozilla Service Week event in the afternoon:<br />
## https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/Support/GetSatisfaction/GSDay20090917<br />
# SUMO as Knowledge Base for MoMo evaluation in progress with gozer<br />
# Key Support stats from the following graphic:<br />
## approximately 15 / day<br />
## total new topics:82 total replies: 72 - fell a wee bit behind because of the long weekend<br />
## have ruby code in progress to semi-automate metrics, relies on manual tagging<br />
## #replies from non MoMo folks: 4 from Tom (thanks!) MoMo folks: 8 from Standard8 (thanks!), 2 from Rafael (thanks!) to be filled in later new users:<br />
## happiness metric: to be filled in<br />
[[File:8-14September2009Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.jpg|500px]]<br />
<br />
=== Roundtable ===<br />
<br />
==== Status Updates ====<br />
<br />
===== sid0 =====<br />
* Landed {{Bug|515151}}.<br />
* Still working on {{Bug|507593}}.<br />
<br />
===== davida =====<br />
<br />
===== dmose =====<br />
* message header coding and review work<br />
* misc driving<br />
<br />
===== Standard8 =====<br />
<br />
* Reviews and Driving<br />
* {{Bug|514858}} Cannot disable Shredder start page, regardless of setting<br />
* Finally able to push - {{Bug|511240}} Provide feedback for loading of content within content tabs - as the core patch went into 1.9.1.<br />
* Satchel is now built by default in TB 3 (bug 510378).<br />
* Got an initial patch semi-working for pop3 on {{bug|338549}} Mailnews account password prompts at startup no longer serial.<br />
<br />
===== asuth =====<br />
<br />
===== bienvenu =====<br />
* Reviews and Driving<br />
* Make sure smart folders persist the sort settings when we sort, {{bug|516143}}<br />
* fix temporary hang leaving saved search folders before the search completes, {{bug|516388}}<br />
* Fallback to all folders mode if we get an error starting up in folder pane rebuild, {{bug|516176}}<br />
* Fix deleting from gloda search results view, {{bug|515860}}<br />
* Make smart folders the default mode, and add new special folders to the right place in smart folders, {{bug|492922}}<br />
* Don't bother the user with imap alerts about failed connections when shutting down, potentially part of {{bug|494014}}<br />
* Fixed {{bug|515516}} smart folders accounts gets marked as local mail folder account, preventing us from creating an actual local folders account<br />
* Fix initial sort of listed faceted search results, which fixed a crash showing that list.<br />
* Make auto config the wizard for new profiles, {{bug|511308}}<br />
<br />
Next week:<br />
* On vacation Aug 16-18th<br />
* rc1 blockers<br />
<br />
===== gozer =====<br />
<br />
* Thunderbird 3 Beta 4!<br />
* Sunbird OS X l10n repacks working again<br />
<br />
===== clarkbw =====<br />
<br />
===== wsmwk =====<br />
~4 weeks of info<br />
* {{Bug|442222}} Update About > Credits for Thunderbird3<br />
** major updates of credits is in 3.0b4, as described in the bug<br />
** will post to mdat and drivers about accepting nominations after webform has been updated. please make nominations for credits based on the webform description (which may change shortly). We are using a criteria of the person made a significant contribution to a feature or features in thunderbird 3 / made a significant investment of time, with useful results ... contributions can range from dev to bug triage to QA to marketing and more. Note, this is somewhat broader than "the release would not have happened were it not for their involvement."<br />
* monitoring crash stats and crash bugs for 3.0b4. filed:<br />
** {{Bug|513315}} crash [@ nsScriptSecurityManager::GetCurrentJSContext()]<br />
** {{Bug|512171}} crash [@ nsWindowSH::GetProperty(nsIXPConnectWrappedNative*, JSContext*, JSObject*, int, int*, int*)]<br />
** {{Bug|515243}} startup crash [@ nsGetInterface::operator()(nsID const&, void**)]<br />
** {{Bug|515999}} crash [@ nsTHashtable<nsBaseHashtableET<nsCStringHashKey, nsCString> >::s_InitEntry(PLDHashTable*, PLDHashEntryHdr*, void const*)]<br />
** {{Bug|516047}} crash [@ nsXULTreeGridCellAccessible::GetAttributesInternal(nsIPersistentProperties*)] (3.1a1 topcrash)<br />
** {{Bug|512678}} crash [@ nsPurpleBuffer::Put(nsISupports*)] during address autocomplete<br />
** {{Bug|516427}} crash (no laughing allowed)<br />
* bug triage<br />
* banging on gloda / search - looking good<br />
* updated [[QA/Community/Bug_Watchers#Thunderbird_Components_-_Default_QA_Contact|Component Watch List wiki]]<br />
* search component<br />
** facet + gloda front end bugs (fixed and open) moved to search component<br />
** quick search bugs (open) moved to search component<br />
** do we want Search Messages and saved search folders to move to search component? thinking yes for SM and no for saved search (i.e. keep in folders and message list)<br />
** waiting on moving more - many should be triaged rather than just mass moved, [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=search+&product=Thunderbird&resolution=---&chfieldto=Now&field0-0-0=component&type0-0-0=nowordssubstr&value0-0-0=address+search+prefer&field0-1-0=longdesc&type0-1-0=substring&value0-1-0=quick like this subset] (55 bugs). [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=search+&product=Thunderbird&resolution=---&chfieldto=Now&field0-0-0=component&type0-0-0=nowordssubstr&value0-0-0=address+search+prefer&field0-1-0=longdesc&type0-1-0=nowordssubstr&value0-1-0=quick there are many more] (184 bugs)<br />
** set your bugmail watches to search@thunderbird.bugs!<br />
* setup vista build environment<br />
* hosted Gary for 2 weeks - a good guest!<br />
<br />
===== beckley =====<br />
<br />
====== Penelope ======<br />
<br />
* Some issues with the recent Eudora/Penelope beta are having us do a new beta based on TB 3.0b4 source code. Will be out soon after TB 3.0b4 is released.<br />
<br />
===== KaiRo =====<br />
*Released SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 2 on Saturday - now has tabmail and can install Lightning!<br />
<br />
===== rkent =====<br />
<br />
===== rebron =====<br />
Last week:<br />
* More press tour/end game planning.<br />
* Meetings w/ various mozilla marketing/evangelism folks.<br />
<br />
This week:<br />
* Focus on b4, web site content, press handling.<br />
* Prep for following meeting with board/mitchell.<br />
* Tb 3 press demo dry run next week (maybe).<br />
<br />
===== Tsk =====<br />
Last week :<br />
* Organized test day<br />
* Organized test week<br />
* Participated to Faceted search test day<br />
* Following and participated in Litmus 2 discussions<br />
* Triage<br />
<br />
Upcoming week :<br />
* Release testing for 3.0b4<br />
* Release testing for 3.0b4<br />
* Release testing for 3.0b4<br />
<br />
===== andreasn =====<br />
* Last week:<br />
** Lots of Gloda faceting mockups and css {{Bug|515653}} {{Bug|516261}}<br />
** Quick account setup work {{Bug|506290}}<br />
** Vista icon fixes {{Bug|516384}}<br />
<br />
* This week:<br />
** More faceting layout work<br />
** And blog about the process<br />
** Account preferences sizes {{Bug|416263}} {{Bug|516472}} {{Bug|516586}}<br />
** Vista autoconfig a11y issues<br />
<br />
===== bwinton =====<br />
Last week:<br />
* Closed {{bug|506290}}, {{bug|490143}}, {{bug|490418}}, {{bug|501910}}, {{bug|465269}}, {{bug|470416}}, and {{bug|516087}}.<br />
* Got something checked in for {{bug|516353}}.<br />
* Reviewed {{bug|511308}}, and {{bug|492922}}.<br />
* Created {{bug|515426}}.<br />
<br />
This week:<br />
* Help students get started on ISPDB.<br />
* More work on {{bug|516353}}, {{bug|509044}}, {{bug|515371}}<br />
<br />
===== roland =====<br />
<br />
===== nth10sd =====<br />
<br />
=== Attendees ===<br />
<br />
__NOTOC__</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-09-08&diff=167122Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-09-082009-09-08T16:28:55Z<p>Beckley: /* beckley */</p>
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<br />
'''Thunderbird Meeting Details'''&nbsp;: <br />
<br />
*[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=09&day=08&hour=16&min=30&sec=0 Tuesday, September 8th, 16:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern) <br />
*[[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]<br />
<br />
== Agenda ==<br />
<br />
*Who's taking minutes? --&gt; '''Standard8''' <br />
*[http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.<br />
<br />
=== Action Items ===<br />
<br />
==== New ====<br />
<br />
==== Open ====<br />
<br />
* Autoconfig process<br />
** Webapp currently being tested to fix some initial problems, will open up for broader testing soon<br />
** davida will be working with gozer on moving the webapp into a preview release<br />
** hopefully getting some review time from a django person<br />
** bwinton has been coordinating with Greg and students at U Toronto<br />
*** 5 students across Canada<br />
** Join the [http://groups.google.ca/group/ispdb ISPDB Google Group] to participate in the discussion<br />
<br />
==== Closed ====<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird/Thunderbird 3.0b4|Thunderbird 3 Beta 4]] ===<br />
<br />
* Freeze Dates:<br />
** Slushy Code Freeze: Monday 7th Sept 23:59 PDT (yesterday).<br />
** Full String Freeze: Wed 9th Sept 23:59 PDT ('''tomorrow''').<br />
** Code Freeze: Friday 11th Sept 23:59 PDT.<br />
** l10n Complete: Monday 14th Sept 23:59 PDT.<br />
** Release builds start: Tues 15th Sept.<br />
<br />
* Blockers/Wanted <br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b4&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b4}} 28 (-19) <br />
* Proposed Blocking (all milestones) <br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 17 (+2) <br />
* Fixed: <br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b4}} 82 (+20)<br />
<br />
* Release Driver: Standard8<br />
* Build Engineer: gozer<br />
* Release Tracking Page: [[Releases/Thunderbird_3.0b4]]<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:Final|Thunderbird 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* Schedule (proposed, may change nearer b4):<br />
** Final l10n String Freeze: Tuesday 29th Sept 23:59 PST<br />
** Approvals/Blockers only: from Tuesday 6th October 23:59 PST<br />
** Aiming to start RC1 builds on: 3rd Nov.<br />
** Subsequent RCs as necessary.<br />
<br />
* Blockers <br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+] 59 (-17)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/chart.cgi?category=-All-&subcategory=-All-&name=1183&label0=Thunderbird+TB+3+Blockers&line0=1936&label1=MailNews+Core+TB+3+Blockers&line1=1937&gt=1&labelgt=Grand+Total&datefrom=2009-07-25&dateto=&action-wrap=Chart+This+List Chart]<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=tb3needs&sharer_id=1537 TB 3 Needs]: 4 (0) <br />
* Proposed Blocking <br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 17 (+2)<br />
* Wanted<br />
** {{trackinglist|Wanted Thunderbird 3|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|}} 263<br />
<br />
* Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them. <br />
* If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don't want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.<br />
<br />
=== QA Updates ===<br />
* Test day for thunderbird 3.0b4 coming up this week see [[Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2009-09-10]] for areas we will focus on.<br />
* Regression testing before release starting next Wednesday.QA is looking for some volunteer work over that week to achieve a complete coverage of the Basic Functional Tests (see point2 in [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird/browse_thread/thread/93e8b9cc4de2a994 QA Activities related to the release of Thunderbird 3.0b4]).<br />
** At the moment not a single windows user as signed up.<br />
** I'll relay this on a few more channel over the week.<br />
** I'll email a few testers from previous sessions.<br />
<br />
* Last week was a slowish week <br />
* first build of faceted search - was very interesting to look at.<br />
<br />
=== Marketing Updates ===<br />
* PR Update: Gmail outage put IMAP and desktop clients/Thunderbird in the news. [http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/171347/six_reasons_desktop_email_still_rules.html Six Reasons Desktop Email Still Rules], [http://www.itworld.com/software/76807/firefox-thunderbird-tweaks-and-add-ons-worth-looking Firefox, Thunderbird tweaks and add ons worth looking at]<br />
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Marketing:Thunderbird_Website Web site localization plan]<br />
* 94% of Thunderbird 2 users are now on Thunderbird 2.0.0.23.<br />
<br />
=== IT update ===<br />
<br />
* New, faster Win2k3 builders (try, staging, production)<br />
** Mothballed the Amazon EC2 Windows build slave (too slow)<br />
* [http://svn.mozilla.org/projects/sumo/tags/1.3/1.3_20090904_r50928/ SUMO] test/preview installation this week<br />
<br />
=== Documentation ===<br />
* FUEL [https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Toolkit_API/FUEL] STEEL [https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Toolkit_API/STEEL/] SMILE [https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Toolkit_API/SMILE] docs done<br />
** create API docs<br />
** update existing pages to adhere to API style guide<br />
** set up hierarchy / re-org page structure<br />
* community contributions to how-tos ([https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Extensions/Thunderbird/HowTos])<br />
* new error reporting tools page ([https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Extensions/Thunderbird/Error_reporting_tools])<br />
<br />
=== Support ===<br />
* Top 5 GS Support Topics: <br />
*# Email Account Config issues e.g. Hotmail (hopefully will be lessened by ispdb in Thunderbird 3)<br />
*# Cannot Receive Email<br />
*# Dataloss (compacting folders fixes most problems)<br />
*# ui questions i.e. how to use Thunderbird<br />
*# Cannot send email<br />
*# Thunderbird crashes due to folders being corrupted (compact folders)<br />
* Support Day: September 3, 2009, 9:30-5p.m. Pacific in #thunderbird and #gsfn<br />
** created [[Thunderbird/Support/GetSatisfaction/TaggingConventions]] and [[Thunderbird/Support/GetSatisfaction/MovingBugzillaSupportRequests]]<br />
** not many folks<br />
** need more PR (e.g. DavidA's blog and usenet, others)<br />
** need more ways for people to help out in GS<br />
* Key Support stats from the following graphic:<br />
** approximately 15-20 topics a day<br />
** total new topics:94 total replies: 143 - means we are making progress in clearing backlog<br />
** #replies from non MoMo folks: to be filled in later new users:<br />
[[File:Sept_1-7,_2009_Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.jpg|500px]]<br />
<br />
=== Roundtable ===<br />
<br />
==== Status Updates ====<br />
<br />
===== sid0 =====<br />
<br />
===== davida =====<br />
<br />
last week:<br />
<br />
* driving<br />
* blockers<br />
* faceting UI<br />
<br />
this week:<br />
<br />
* quick trip to MV<br />
* driving<br />
* blockers<br />
<br />
===== dmose =====<br />
<br />
===== Standard8 =====<br />
<br />
* Reviews & Driving<br />
* Reworked the [[Releases/Thunderbird_3.0b4|Release check list]] page to make it clearer and easier to use.<br />
* {{Bug|510378}} Landed parts so that satchel is enabled on trunk (waiting approval for trunk)<br />
* {{Bug|511242}} We now include nsBrowserStatusFilter in the build on trunk. This will pave the way for content tabs to have busy indications (and possibly favicons) in {{bug|511240}}<br />
* {{Bug|499306}} Backend for retention-policy UI not initialized, tangled with XUL code<br />
* {{Bug|508381}} Multiple failed login attempts when IMAP password is changed, even after clear of saved password.<br />
* {{Bug|463155}} Add video/audio controls to message context menu, since the regular controls depend on JavaScript.<br />
<br />
===== asuth =====<br />
<br />
===== bienvenu =====<br />
* Reviews and Driving<br />
* Bullet proof top-crasher in nsMsgSearchSession::GetNextUrl,{{bug|492429}}<br />
* Fix xlist listing of folders not to assume hierarchy delimiter, {{bug|493455}}<br />
* Fix crash in getAvailable by not calling it for matchAll search terms, {{bug|511131}}<br />
* Fixed {{bug|497059}}, shutdown imap connections on quit-application-granted notification, or last mail window is closed (except for SM and Mac), and don't try to run any more imap urls after that. Should help with shutdown hangs.<br />
* Make os search integration use filtered db enumerator, gets rid of js gc hangs after being idle {{bug|505309}}<br />
* Override cert exception dialog on imap/pop3 urls w/o msg window, {{bug|493980}}<br />
* Fixed SSPI auth issue.<br />
<br />
===== gozer =====<br />
<br />
===== clarkbw =====<br />
last week:<br />
* driving<br />
* header ui<br />
* autoconfig<br />
<br />
this week:<br />
* driving<br />
* header ui<br />
* autoconfig<br />
<br />
===== wsmwk =====<br />
<br />
===== beckley =====<br />
<br />
====== Penelope ======<br />
<br />
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Eudora_Releases Eudora 8.0b7]/[https://wiki.mozilla.org/Penelope_Extensions Penelope 0.5a4] released<br />
<br />
===== KaiRo =====<br />
<br />
===== rkent =====<br />
<br />
===== rebron =====<br />
Last week<br />
* Launch prep: web site content, pr kit<br />
<br />
This week<br />
* Beta 4 work.<br />
* Continuing launch prep work. <br />
* PR meeting w/ Euro team.<br />
<br />
===== Tsk =====<br />
* Last week:<br />
** Faceting testing and feedback<br />
** feedback to mozilla-qa about litmus 2<br />
<br />
* upcoming week<br />
** Test day<br />
** Release testing.<br />
<br />
===== andreasn =====<br />
*Last week:<br />
** Vista and gnomestripe account central icons {Bug|512460}<br />
** Gloda faceting mockups and css<br />
** Quick account setup work<br />
<br />
This week:<br />
** Gloda faceting mockups and css<br />
** Quick account setup work<br />
** Vista theme work<br />
** Tags css fixes (if I can find the bug) :)<br />
<br />
===== bwinton =====<br />
<br />
===== roland =====<br />
Last week:<br />
* moved one page (menu) of support content from mozilla.org to mozillamessaging.com<br />
* more GS backlog reduction<br />
* some gloda testing on holiday weekend<br />
This week:<br />
* finish move of support content from mozilla.org to mozillamessaging.com<br />
* more GS How Tos - try to document as many ways for people to help as possible<br />
* formal support plan - really get draft up on wiki this week<br />
* more gloda testing using html email this week<br />
* evaluation of SUMO as Knowledge base for support.mozillamessaging.com (with gozer's ongoing help)<br />
<br />
===== nth10sd =====<br />
<br />
=== Attendees ===<br />
<br />
__NOTOC__</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Penelope_Extensions&diff=166634Penelope Extensions2009-09-04T18:22:30Z<p>Beckley: Penelope 0.5 alpha 4 release</p>
<hr />
<div>== Penelope Extension Alpha 0.5 Releases ==<br />
<br />
The Penelope extension works with Thunderbird 3.0b1 or higher. For more information about Penelope see the [[Penelope|main wiki page]].<br />
<br />
The current version of Penelope is [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0b7/penelope-0.5a4.xpi 0.5a4]. However, it is recommended that you use a version of Penelope that comes with a [[Eudora Releases|Eudora 8 release]] to ensure maximum compatibility.<br />
<br />
This release addresses a number of issues that arose with under-the-hood changes to Thunderbird in version 3.0b3, especially involving mailbox display and tabs.<br />
<br />
&raquo; Note to Firefox users:<br />
When you click a link to an XPI file, Firefox thinks you are trying to install an extension to Firefox and brings up the install dialog. This is not going to work. Instead, Right-click on the links for the extension and save to disk, then install from within Thunderbird's Tools->Add-ons window.<br />
<br />
&raquo; Note to Safari users: <br />
When you click on the http link, Safari may try to load the XPI file as plain text. To avoid this, right-click (or control-click) on it and select Download Linked File from the contextual menu.<br />
<br />
=== Previous Versions ===<br />
<br />
Previous versions of Penelope are available:<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b6/penelope-0.5a3.xpi 0.5a3]<br />
** This release adds a number of new features and bug fixes around mailbox and message tabs and the customize toolbar dialog.<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b5/penelope-0.5a2.xpi 0.5a2]<br>Main new features:<br />
** Various tab additions/improvements<br />
** Added shift key modifier to the Transfer menu items and toolbar buttons to do copy vs. move.<br />
** Holding down alt/option when clicking on an open mailbox toolbar button will now do a transfer.<br />
** "Show message preview pane" setting added to Penelope pref panel. If on (which it is by default), then the preview pane is shown at its last saved position. If it's off then both the preview pane and the splitter before it are hidden.<br />
<br />
<br />
* [http://eudora.com/download/eudora/8.0.0b4/penelope-0.5a1.xpi 0.5a1]<br>Main new features:<br />
** Classic Eudora Redirect feature added<br />
** Open windows saved between sessions<br />
** Mailboxes that receive new messages are automatically opened<br />
** Opened mailboxes automatically select a recent unread message<br />
** Mailbox window font name and size prefs<br />
<br />
* [http://www.eudora.com/download/penelope/penelope-0.1a22.xpi 0.1a22]<br>The main thrust of the changes was to make the extension more compatible with Thunderbird 3.0 (trunk) versions. There are a number of minor changes as well:<br />
** Auto-compaction was turned on by default, and is set to a threshold of 10 MB.<br />
** Hitting space to go through unread messages is now fixed.<br />
** Ctrl/Cmd+M now mapped to Mail Check instead of New Message.<br />
** Junk, Not Junk, Delete menu items fixed.<br />
** Junk, Not Junk shortcuts (Ctrl/Cmd + [Shift] + J) fixed.<br />
** "Make Address Book Entry" menu item now in correct spot in Tools menu (Mac only).<br />
** Empty menu items in Tools menu removed.<br />
** Customize Toolbar dialog fixed under Mac and general UI improvements including moving strings to localizable files.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.eudora.com/penelope/penelope-0.1a19.xpi 0.1a19]<br />
* [http://www.eudora.com/penelope/penelope-0.1a16.xpi 0.1a16]: fixes errors on the javascript console and makes the Penelope extension compatible with addons.mozilla.org.<br />
<br />
=== Eudora ===<br />
<br />
Installers for the new versions of Eudora based on Thunderbird can be found on the [[Eudora Releases]] page. These installers also include Penelope in them.</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-09-01&diff=165674Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-09-012009-09-01T16:35:14Z<p>Beckley: /* beckley */</p>
<hr />
<div><small>[[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-08-25|last meeting]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings|index]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-09-08|next meeting »]]</small> <br />
<br />
'''Thunderbird Meeting Details'''&nbsp;: <br />
<br />
*[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=09&day=08&hour=16&min=30&sec=0 Tuesday, September 1st, 16:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern) <br />
*[[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]<br />
<br />
== Agenda ==<br />
<br />
*Who's taking minutes? --&gt; '''clarkbw''' <br />
*[http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.<br />
<br />
=== Action Items ===<br />
<br />
==== New ====<br />
<br />
==== Open ====<br />
<br />
* Autoconfig process<br />
** Webapp currently being tested to fix some initial problems, will open up for broader testing soon, i.e., move the webapp to a place where more people can access it.<br />
<br />
==== Closed ====<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird/Thunderbird 3.0b4|Thunderbird 3 Beta 4]] ===<br />
<br />
* '''Note:''' SeaMonkey requests that mailnews/ and suite/ strings are frozen between Thursday 27th August 23:59 PST and Wednesday 2nd September for their 2.0b2 release.<br />
** Standard8 has checked [has l10n impact] bugs - all appear to be specific TB strings only.<br />
** If you need to land strings bugs during that period and are unsure what to do, check with Standard8.<br />
<br />
* Freeze Dates:<br />
** Slushy Code Freeze: Monday 7th Sept 23:59 PDT.<br />
** Full String Freeze: Wed 9th Sept 23:59 PDT.<br />
** Code Freeze: Friday 11th Sept 23:59 PDT.<br />
** l10n Complete: Monday 14th Sept 23:59 PDT.<br />
** Release builds start: Tues 15th Sept.<br />
<br />
* Blockers/Wanted <br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b4&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b4}} 47 (-29) <br />
** b3ux TBD <!-- ** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux] 15 --> <br />
* Proposed Blocking (all milestones) <br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 15 (+3) <br />
* Fixed: <br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b4}} 62 (+17)<br />
<br />
* Release Driver: Standard8<br />
* Build Engineer: gozer<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:Final|Thunderbird 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* Schedule (proposed, may change nearer b4):<br />
** Final l10n String Freeze: Tuesday 29th Sept 23:59 PST<br />
** Approvals/Blockers only: from Tuesday 6th October 23:59 PST<br />
** Aiming to start RC1 builds on: 3rd Nov.<br />
** Subsequent RCs as necessary.<br />
<br />
* Blockers <br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+] 76 (-24)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/chart.cgi?category=-All-&subcategory=-All-&name=1183&label0=Thunderbird+TB+3+Blockers&line0=1936&label1=MailNews+Core+TB+3+Blockers&line1=1937&gt=1&labelgt=Grand+Total&datefrom=2009-07-25&dateto=&action-wrap=Chart+This+List Chart]<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=tb3needs&sharer_id=1537 TB 3 Needs]: 4 (-6) <br />
* Proposed Blocking <br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 15 (+3)<br />
* Wanted<br />
** {{trackinglist|Wanted Thunderbird 3|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|}} 260<br />
<br />
* Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them. <br />
* If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don't want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.<br />
<br />
=== QA Updates ===<br />
* Usual weekly activity see http://quality.mozilla.org/events/2009/sep/03/thunderbird-bugday-squashing-trunk-bugs for an example of our weekly activity.<br />
* Started presenting the contributors to QA - see [http://perso.hirlimann.net/~ludo/blog/archives/2009/09/presenting-the-thunderbird-qa-team-inter.html Wayne]'s presentation for an idea of what that is.<br />
<br />
<br />
Want to join the QA effort and don't know how, drop me an email at ludovic@mozillamessaging.com<br />
<br />
=== Marketing Updates ===<br />
* Press Update: [http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2009/08/thevalueoflearningtodosomethingyourself/ How I Learned All About Outlook and Thunderbird]<br />
* 89% of Thunderbird 2 users on 2.0.0.23 after 11 days<br />
* Presented marketing plan to MoMo board, good feedback.<br />
<br />
=== IT update ===<br />
<br />
* New OS X builder<br />
** <i>momo-vm-osx-leopard-05</i><br />
* Prioritized builders<br />
** nightly > comm-1.9.1 > l10n<br />
* Code Signing<br />
* mail-test.mozillamessaging.com<br />
** Lots of new tester accounts {{bug|511878}}<br />
* hg.mozilla.org still has reliability issues this week <strike>{{bug|511258}}</strike><br />
** Some spurious bustage as a result<br />
** The bug is closed, but we are still seeing intermittent issues<br />
<br />
=== Documentation ===<br />
* mostly off sick last week<br />
* good MDC usability discussion with a new extension developer:<br />
** cruft in search results (ie, Google) - not apparent that MDC is the most reliable doc source<br />
** MDC navigation issues - no page hierarchy, therefore breadcrumbs aren't useful and "portal" pages are hard to find unless you navigate from the main page<br />
** not obvious that MDC is a wiki and that people are encouraged to comtribute<br />
** following up with Sheppy<br />
* general MDC problems last week (per Sheppy's blog post)<br />
* continuing with tutorial / FUEL / STEEL / SMILE<br />
<br />
=== Support ===<br />
* Support Day: September 3, 2009, 9:30-5p.m. Pacific in #thunderbird and #gsfn (for meta & how to use get satisfaction topics) <br />
* Key Support stats from the following graphic:<br />
** will be higher in general, lower this week because we erroneously had link going to mozilla GS instead of MoMoGS for a few days<br />
** approximately 15 topics a day (I think after switching link to MoMo GS it will be about 20/day, lots of activity last weekend)<br />
** total new topics:69 total replies: 95 - means we are making progress in clearing backlog<br />
** #replies from non MoMo folks: approximately 30 (approximately 25 from Tom; hand counted since there's no way to get it easily)<br />
** researching better and more metrics e.g. number of new users<br />
[[File:GetSatisfactionStats25Aug-31Aug2009.jpg|500px]]<br />
<br />
=== Roundtable ===<br />
<br />
==== Status Updates ====<br />
<br />
===== sid0 =====<br />
* Back<br />
* Submitted a patch to {{Bug|508597}}.<br />
* Working on {{Bug|466227}} right now.<br />
<br />
===== davida =====<br />
<br />
===== dmose =====<br />
* Code reviews<br />
* Iterated on various message header patches<br />
* Driving<br />
<br />
===== Standard8 =====<br />
<br />
* Some Holiday<br />
* Reviews & Driving<br />
* LDAP Autoconfig (aka MCD) is now ready for TB 3 ({{Bug|502597}})<br />
* Various Content Tab improvements/fixes {{Bug|513654}}, {{Bug|513653}}<br />
* {{Bug|505705}} Window layout position and columns not remembered after each exit (using Vertical view, width, persist).<br />
* {{Bug|504552}} Default tab show only a message and no other panes - provide some error handling for when the quick search menu gets confused.<br />
* Some trunk bustage fixes ({{Bug|512763}}<br />
<br />
===== asuth =====<br />
<br />
===== bienvenu =====<br />
* Reviews and Driving<br />
* Made autosync date constraints be per-server.<br />
* Fixed threading with quick search and augment the view unit test to test quick search threading.<br />
* Fixed various causes of corruption of offline imap store, {{bug|468595}}, plus limited unit test.<br />
* Re-enable imap subscription for servers that support xlist, {{bug|493455}}<br />
* Try to get DB in HasMsgOffline in case someone has cleared the cached db pointer out from under gloda, {{bug|512414}}<br />
* Fix check for new pop3 mail when download on check not set, {{bug|458625}}<br />
* Potential fix for top crash in nsMsgDBView::FindHdr, {{bug|503854}}<br />
* Don't create duplicate Archives folder if there's an existing archive folder (i.e., folder with a different case name), {{bug|484329}}<br />
<br />
Next week <br />
Reviews and b4 blockers.<br />
<br />
===== gozer =====<br />
<br />
* Build<br />
** New OS X builder (momo-vm-osx-leopard-05)<br />
** Prioritized builders<br />
** Signing automation<br />
** Release automation<br />
** Buildbot catchup work<br />
*** buildbot/ updated in production<br />
*** buildbotcustom/ updated in staging<br />
** l10n-repack duplicate builds {{bug|513735}}<br />
<br />
* Web<br />
** Splitting SSL backends in 3 {{bug|510934}}<br />
<br />
* Infrastructure<br />
** mail-test many more new accounts for folks {{bug|511878}}<br />
<br />
===== clarkbw =====<br />
<br />
===== wsmwk =====<br />
<br />
===== beckley =====<br />
<br />
====== Penelope ======<br />
<br />
* Still edging toward release of Eudora 8 beta 7/Penelope 0.5 alpha 4.<br />
* Showstoppers appear to be fixed, and final builds are coming with an additional round of testing<br />
<br />
===== KaiRo =====<br />
<br />
===== rkent =====<br />
<br />
===== rebron =====<br />
* drafted demo script for TB 3 <br />
* in process with reviewer's guide w/ pr team<br />
* targeting web site content draft for this Friday for pascalc<br />
* keeping Jim Cook happy on TB 3 Beta 3 <br />
<br />
next week<br />
* meeting with Mozilla Europe/Barbara in person/mtn view for European press/press tour<br />
<br />
===== Tsk =====<br />
* On top of bugs<br />
* Working with Roland to figure out more Support <-> QA.<br />
* Preparing testing Sessions for b4.<br />
<br />
===== andreasn =====<br />
* Last week:<br />
** Continue Unclutter gnomestripe {{Bug|505721}}<br />
** Gloda faceting and search mockups<br />
** More Vista theme work {{Bug|488060}}<br />
** Account preferences sizes {{Bug|416263}}<br />
** Gnomestripe {{Bug|505721} and Pinstripe {{Bug|512666}} patches.<br />
<br />
* This week:<br />
** Vista theme work<br />
** More gnomestripe fixes {{Bug|505721}}<br />
** Gloda faceting css<br />
** Quick account setup css<br />
** Tags css fixes<br />
<br />
===== bwinton =====<br />
Last week:<br />
* Closed {{bug|512454}}, {{bug|501163}}, {{bug|490985}}, and {{bug|503436}}.<br />
* Checked in patch for {{bug|506290}}.<br />
* Posted patches for {{bug|510707}}, {{bug|504954}}, and {{bug|490111}}.<br />
* Contacted students to work on ISPDB.<br />
<br />
This week:<br />
* Continue working on {{bug|506290}}, {{bug|510707}}, {{bug|465269}}, and {{bug|501910}}.<br />
* Help students get started on ISPDB.<br />
<br />
===== roland =====<br />
Last week:<br />
* moved two pages of support content from mozilla.org to mozillamessaging.com<br />
* more GS backlog reduction<br />
* formal support plan - came up with list of items<br />
This week:<br />
* finish move of support content from mozilla.org to mozillamessaging.com<br />
* more GS How Tos including editing README, tagging convention in time for GS Support Day on September 3<br />
* get draft formal support plan up on wiki<br />
<br />
===== nth10sd =====<br />
<br />
=== Attendees ===<br />
<br />
__NOTOC__</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-07-28&diff=158045Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-07-282009-07-28T16:36:47Z<p>Beckley: /* beckley */</p>
<hr />
<div><small>[[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-07-21|last meeting]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings|index]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-08-04|next meeting »]]</small> <br />
<br />
'''Thunderbird Meeting Details'''&nbsp;: <br />
<br />
*[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=07&day=28&hour=16&min=30&sec=0 Tuesday, July 28st, 16:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern) <br />
*[[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]<br />
<br />
== Agenda ==<br />
<br />
*Who's taking minutes? --&gt; '''gozer''' <br />
*[http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.<br />
<br />
=== Action Items ===<br />
<br />
==== New ====<br />
<br />
==== Open ====<br />
<br />
* Autoconfig process<br />
** Webapp currently being tested to fix some initial problems, will open up for broader testing soon, i.e., move the webapp to a place where more people can access it.<br />
<br />
==== Closed ====<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird/Thunderbird 3.0b4|Thunderbird 3 Beta 4]] ===<br />
<br />
* Release Driver: Standard8<br />
* Build Engineer: gozer<br />
<br />
*Blockers/Wanted <br />
**{{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b4&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b4}} 82 (+3) <br />
**b3ux TBD <!-- ** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux] 15 --> <br />
*Proposed Blocking (all milestones) <br />
**{{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 79 (+17) <br />
*Fixed: <br />
**{{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b4}} 7 (+5)<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:Final|Thunderbird 3]] ===<br />
<br />
*[[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap]]<br />
<br />
*Blockers <br />
**[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+] 149 (-2) <br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/chart.cgi?category=-All-&subcategory=-All-&name=1183&label0=Thunderbird+TB+3+Blockers&line0=1936&label1=MailNews+Core+TB+3+Blockers&line1=1937&gt=1&labelgt=Grand+Total&datefrom=2009-07-25&dateto=&action-wrap=Chart+This+List Chart]<br />
**[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=tb3needs&sharer_id=1537 TB 3 Needs]: 9 (0) <br />
*Proposed Blocking <br />
**{{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 79 (+17)<br />
*Wanted<br />
**{{trackinglist|Wanted Thunderbird 3|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|}} 238<br />
<br />
*Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them. <br />
*If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don't want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.<br />
<br />
=== QA Updates ===<br />
* Usage of TB3.0b3 is going up as are crash-stats -> bugs are being updated to reflect usage we see.<br />
* Tb3.0b3 was released last week - Auto-update in progress.<br />
* Normal bug day for this week.<br />
<br />
=== Marketing Updates ===<br />
* Thunderbird 3 Beta 3 press - Total Articles: 51; Total Original: 23; Total Pick ups: 28; highlights: [http://lifehacker.com/5320373/thunderbird-3-beta-3-available-for-download Lifehacker] and [http://download.cnet.com/8301-2007_4-10293511-12.html c|Net] articles<br />
* Good response at OSCON on Thunderbird 3 progress.<br />
* Still on iteration 4 for Thunderbird logo, expecting to wrap up designs this week.<br />
<br />
=== IT update ===<br />
<br />
* All MoCo build machines have been be retired<br />
** tbnewref-win32-tbox.build<br />
** tb-linux-tbox.build<br />
* ISPDB is now available for restricted preview<br />
** Ask me on irc if you want/need access<br />
* Calendar OS X build machine is back in business<br />
** Nightly Lightning/Sunbird builds are back<br />
* [http://build.mozillamessaging.com/buildbot/staging/ Staging buildbot master] is up and running<br />
** Currently helping getting MozMill tests up and running<br />
<br />
=== Documentation ===<br />
<br />
=== Roundtable ===<br />
<br />
https://wiki.mozilla.org/EU_MozCamp_2009 is coming up<br />
<br />
==== Status Updates ====<br />
<br />
===== nth10sd =====<br />
<br />
* [http://www.rumblingedge.com/2009/07/21/thunderbird-3-beta-3-released/ Thunderbird 3 Beta 3 changelog] @ The Rumbling Edge<br />
* Discovered crasher {{bug|505974}} while fiddling with Mozmill.<br />
* patchlove mostly settled.<br />
* Chatted with Roland on support.<br />
* Regular QA, triage, bugdays.<br />
* qawanted - {{bug|476708}}<br />
<br />
===== sid0 =====<br />
<br />
===== davida =====<br />
<br />
* Last Week:<br />
** OSCON<br />
* This week<br />
** Account central & folder summary patch pushing<br />
** Fixing up thread summary bugs<br />
** Pushing ahead on ISPDB<br />
<br />
===== dmose =====<br />
<br />
* vacation<br />
<br />
===== Standard8 =====<br />
<br />
* Reviews & Driving<br />
* Mozmill<br />
** Landed the new make mozmill & make mozmill-one code.<br />
** Helping Gozer set up buildbot. Currently trying to sort out issues with running mozmill under buildbot.<br />
** Mozmill has internal version of httpd server. Example of use on bug 492279.<br />
* Created POP version of the patch for {{Bug|121647}} POP/IMAP server passwords are inappropriately forgotten. Currently writing unit test.<br />
<br />
Next week:<br />
<br />
* Finish off {{Bug|121647}}<br />
* Pick up send in background work again.<br />
<br />
===== asuth =====<br />
<br />
===== bienvenu =====<br />
* Reviews and Driving<br />
* Helped a bit with the fix for {{Bug|249841}}, offline imap body search issues<br />
* Fixed {{Bug|505487}} - regression in custom header begins/ends with matching, and separate regression in search ui enabling/handling of custom headers.<br />
* Added basic xpcshell search tests, including one to catch above regression<br />
* Fixed mark read on exit handling, {{bug|503624}}, and added xpcshell test for the feature.<br />
* Cleaned up imap undo code a bit in preparation for fixing undo after expunge, {{bug|323875}}<br />
* Fixed adding of new headers to open cross-folder threaded saved searches, {{bug|505321}}, added a test for that to test_nsMsgDBView.js, and fixed the error detection functions in that file so that they detect errors.<br />
* Started work on auto sync disk usage constraints {{bug|482476}} - wrote patch to enable marking of msg headers as pending removal so that offline store compaction will reclaim space, pending review.<br />
<br />
Next week<br />
* Continue and I hope finish work in IMAP undo {{bug|323875}}<br />
* Continue work on auto sync disk usage constraints<br />
* Other b4 blockers<br />
<br />
===== gozer =====<br />
<br />
* Build<br />
** Updates to Beta 3 are almost ready to ship {{bug|506230}}<br />
** Assisting Standard8 in getting MozMill tests running on buildbot<br />
*** Look form them on the [http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/ThunderbirdTest/ ThunderbirdTest] tree<br />
** Hunting down OS X Nightly issues {{bug|505191}}<br />
<br />
* Web<br />
** ISPDB is in preview<br />
<br />
* Infrastructure<br />
** Staging buildbot server up and running<br />
<br />
===== clarkbw =====<br />
<br />
===== wsmwk =====<br />
<br />
===== beckley =====<br />
<br />
====== Penelope ======<br />
<br />
* Fixed up window save/restore after recent tab changes in TB<br />
<br />
* More work on filter auto-naming {{bug|457745}}<br />
<br />
* Hope to have a new beta of Eudora/Penelope this week<br />
<br />
===== KaiRo =====<br />
*Released SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 1 in 17 languages and with partial and complete updates fully working from day 1<br />
*Got a fix into the release harness to make it understand our version-191.txt files for bumping<br />
*Convinced the SeaMonkey team to target a September 1 freeze for 2.0 Beta 2<br />
*Need to get final done before November to stay mentally somewhat sane<br />
<br />
===== rkent =====<br />
<br />
===== rebron =====<br />
* Marketing planning for remainder of the year. <br />
* [http://patrickfinch.net/2009/07/24/calling-all-evangelists-marketeers-advocates-community-organisers-bloggers-activists/ Mozilla Camp Europe] Call for papers, please take a look.<br />
<br />
===== Tsk =====<br />
done :<br />
* Finished Tests for 3.0b3<br />
* Tested auto-updates<br />
<br />
todo:<br />
* Start thinking about Migrating from 2.x -> 3.x<br />
* Prepare test day for beta4<br />
<br />
===== andreasn =====<br />
* Last week<br />
** Got a Vista machine and set up the build.<br />
** Lots of Vista icons and theme fixes.<br />
** Quick account layout {{Bug|506290}}<br />
** Look into that no dialogs get clipped {{bug|504042}}<br />
<br />
* This week<br />
** Lots of more Vista theme work {{bug|488060}}<br />
** Look into that no dialogs get clipped {{bug|504042}}<br />
<br />
===== bwinton =====<br />
Last week:<br />
* Fixed {{bug|502856}}.<br />
* Put up patches for {{bug|495478}} and {{bug|490097}}.<br />
* Started looking into {{bug|503436}}.<br />
<br />
This week:<br />
* Continue working on {{bug|495478}}, and {{bug|503436}}.<br />
* Start working on {{bug|248681}} if we know what we want it to look like.<br />
<br />
===== roland =====<br />
* spoke with nth10sd about QA and support and bugzilla and ludo as well about support and QA<br />
* getting my feet wet with actual support, answered two far<br />
* working on [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=506743 506473] linking to getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging instead of getsatisfaction/mozilla/products/mozilla_thunderbird<br />
* familiarizing myself with Get Satisfaction and how we can use it for support<br />
<br />
=== Attendees ===<br />
<br />
__NOTOC__</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-07-14&diff=155089Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-07-142009-07-14T16:51:29Z<p>Beckley: /* beckley */</p>
<hr />
<div><small>[[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-07-07|last meeting]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings|index]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-07-21|next meeting »]]</small> <br />
<br />
'''Thunderbird Meeting Details'''&nbsp;: <br />
<br />
*[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=07&day=14&hour=16&min=30&sec=0 Tuesday, July 14th, 16:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern) <br />
*[[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]<br />
<br />
== Agenda ==<br />
<br />
*Who's taking minutes? --&gt; '''Ludovic''' (bienvenu on holiday) <br />
*[http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.<br />
<br />
=== Action Items ===<br />
<br />
==== New ====<br />
<br />
==== Open ====<br />
<br />
* Autoconfig process<br />
** Webapp currently being tested to fix some initial problems, will open up for broader testing soon.<br />
<br />
==== Closed ====<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird 3.0b3|Thunderbird 3 Beta 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* Firm code freeze '''today'''. All patches require release driver approval.<br />
<br />
*Freeze Dates ( ''All dates use time of 23:59 PST'' ) <br />
**Slushy String freeze date: 2009-07-02 (In progress) <br />
**Slushy Code Freeze date: 2009-07-07 (In progress) <br />
**Firm String / Code freeze date: 2009-07-14 ('''Today''') <br />
**l10n-mozilla-1.9.1 freeze date: 2009-07-16 (Thur) <br />
**Target Build Ship date: 2009-07-21 (Tues) <br />
*dmose is release driver <br />
*gozer is build engineer<br />
<br />
*Blockers/Wanted <br />
**{{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 7 (+1) <br />
**{{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 21 (-2)<br />
*Proposed Blocking (all milestones) <br />
**{{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 54 (+6) <br />
*Fixed: <br />
**{{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 163 (+6) <br />
**{{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 49 (0)<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird 3.0b4|Thunderbird 3 Beta 4]] ===<br />
<br />
* Standard8 will start going through the various bug lists this week and start to think more about schedule for b4 and rc1.<br />
<br />
* Release Driver: Standard8<br />
* Build Engineer: gozer<br />
<br />
*Blockers/Wanted <br />
**{{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b4&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b4}} 72 (+5) <br />
**b3ux TBD <!-- ** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux] 15 --> <br />
*Proposed Blocking (all milestones) <br />
**{{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 54 (+8) <br />
*Fixed: <br />
**{{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b4}} 0<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:Final|Thunderbird 3]] ===<br />
<br />
*[[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap]]<br />
<br />
*Blockers <br />
**[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+] 149 (+2) <br />
**[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=tb3needs&sharer_id=1537 TB 3 Needs]: 9 (-1) <br />
*Proposed Blocking <br />
**{{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 54 (+2)<br />
*Wanted<br />
**{{trackinglist|Wanted Thunderbird 3|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|}} <br />
<br />
*Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them. <br />
*If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don't want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.<br />
<br />
=== QA Updates ===<br />
* Working low on maintaining bugzilla<br />
* Working mostly on testing b3 : [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=502621&hide_resolved=1 | List of bug founds]<br />
** community attendance is low - probably vacation factor, only new participants.<br />
** Litmus feels slow up until you get to the test page<br />
<br />
=== Marketing Updates ===<br />
* Press watch: [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,531043,00.html Four ways to Fight Back Against CyberAttacks]<br />
* Good progress on [http://www.rebron.org/2009/07/08/new-thunderbird-icon-iteration-2/ Thunderbird Icon refresh], iteration 3 this week<br />
* Held PR/Messaging workshop<br />
* OSCON next week in San Jose, [http://en.oreilly.com/oscon2009/public/schedule/detail/7999 davida session] on 7/23 thursday<br />
<br />
=== IT update ===<br />
<br />
* Migrating to our own AUS server is under way {{bug|487629}}<br />
* Moving OS X builds to 10.5 almost completed {{bug|500676}}<br />
** comm-1.9.1 dep/nightly still on 10.4 until we switch AUS servers<br />
** Retired OS X 10.4 Builders<br />
** Added 2 new OS X 10.5 Builders to the pool<br />
** Planned switchover for Wednesday's nightlies<br />
<br />
=== Documentation ===<br />
<br />
* See Jen's post on [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird/browse_frm/thread/22b6db20c5c01d9d# mdat] - stubs set up.<br />
* Any documentation welcome, rough will do - Jen is willing to review and tidy it up, but needs a base to start from.<br />
<br />
=== Roundtable ===<br />
<br />
==== Status Updates ====<br />
<br />
===== nth10sd =====<br />
<br />
* Back from the rainforest, soaking rain, punctured tyre hiatus.<br />
* Back to face 750+ bugmails (all mostly settled).<br />
* Mozmill re-familiarisation - found {{bug|503663}}.<br />
* Linux [https://litmus.mozilla.org/test_run_report.cgi?test_run_id=40 Litmus tests for TB 3 Beta 3].<br />
* b.m.o review/superreview charts<br />
** TB - [http://tinyurl.com/m5j2p8 http://tinyurl.com/m5j2p8]<br />
** MailNews - [http://tinyurl.com/kqrs2a http://tinyurl.com/kqrs2a]<br />
<br />
===== sid0 =====<br />
* Landed {{Bug|498155}}, {{Bug|498514}} and {{Bug|498735}}.<br />
* Investigated {{Bug|503663}} with nth10sd and bwinton.<br />
* Reviews<br />
* Worked on a minor bug with when we update the mail toolbar.<br />
<br />
===== davida =====<br />
<br />
===== dmose =====<br />
* fixed imap delete model bug<br />
* code reviews<br />
* l10n work<br />
* bug triage<br />
* various other driving miscellany<br />
<br />
===== Standard8 =====<br />
<br />
* Reviews and driving <br />
* {{Bug|500142}} Mozmill integration with make targets and preparation for inclusion in package-tests <br />
* {{Bug|502681}} Crash if I select all after opening a message in a new tab without changing the focus <br />
* Cookies <br />
** We can now utilise cookies in non-mail windows ({{Bug|492279}} landed). <br />
* Tabs and related <br />
** {{Bug|502616}} Fix css for tab images <br />
*** Patch for Windows/Mac, need to do a linux version. Gets the busy/thinking image working again. <br />
** Proposed patch for {{Bug|503299}} window.close() from a content tab closes Thunderbird window; need to think about a modified version to cope with all tab types. <br />
** Looked at getting the content tab correctly indicating when items are being loaded. Have a draft patch, needs more elements included from core - currently assessing in more detail.<br />
<br />
===== asuth =====<br />
<br />
===== bienvenu =====<br />
<br />
===== gozer =====<br />
<br />
* Build<br />
** Migrating to our own AUS server is under way {{bug|487629}}<br />
*** Test it for comm-1.9.1 nightly builds by setting <code>app.update.url.override="https://aus2.mozillamessaging.com/update/3/%PRODUCT%/%VERSION%/%BUILD_ID%/%BUILD_TARGET%/%LOCALE%/%CHANNEL%/%OS_VERSION%/%DISTRIBUTION%/%DISTRIBUTION_VERSION%/update.xml"</code> in your prefs<br />
** Moving OS X builds to 10.5 almost completed {{bug|500676}}<br />
*** comm-1.9.1 dep/nightly still on 10.4 until we switch AUS servers<br />
*** Planned switchover for Wednesday's nightlies<br />
** Simplified and automated release branding (Alpha/Beta/etc) {{bug|481374}}<br />
** Building localized lightning XPIs is now possible {{bug|346278}}<br />
*** Needs buildbot driving now<br />
<br />
* Web<br />
** Still reading the Django book<br />
<br />
* Infrastructure<br />
** Signing VM built<br />
** Better/cleaner system provisionning<br />
** Retired OS X 10.4 Builders<br />
** Added 2 new OS X 10.5 Builders to the pool<br />
** [http://clonezilla.org/ Clonezilla] rocks!<br />
<br />
===== clarkbw =====<br />
<br />
===== wsmwk =====<br />
* topcrash watching, filed several bugs and more to come<br />
** {{bug|503811}} crash [@ nsMsgDBView::MarkThreadOfMsgRead(unsigned int, unsigned int, nsTArray<unsigned int>&, int)] marking thread read<br />
** {{bug|503854}}crash [@ nsMsgDBView::FindHdr(nsIMsgDBHdr*, unsigned int, int)]<br />
** {{bug|503955}}crash report lacks line numbers [3.1a1pre Mac]<br />
* triaged trivial+unconfirmed<br />
* commented in [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.quality/browse_thread/thread/72d664bf0e653941# QMO: A Guide to IRC]<br />
<br />
===== beckley =====<br />
<br />
====== Penelope ======<br />
<br />
* Mainly working on fixing Penelope/Eudora after recent TB mailbox/tab changes<br />
* Lack of working Venkman hindering progress<br />
<br />
===== KaiRo =====<br />
* Enabled mozilla-central builds for SeaMonkey next to the SeaMonkey2.0 ones that are based on 1.9.1<br />
* Watched and checked bugs/checkins when Ben Hearsum landed L10n repackagaing and most release automation patches needed for comm-central applications.<br />
* Worked on ensuring that SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 1 can be released in parallel to Thunderbird 3.0 Beta 3<br />
<br />
===== rkent =====<br />
<br />
===== rebron =====<br />
* Planning and budgeting for remainder of the year.<br />
* Thunderbird 3 beta 3 work - website updates, pr notifications.<br />
<br />
===== Tsk =====<br />
* Testing<br />
* Litmus care<br />
<br />
===== andreasn =====<br />
<br />
===== bwinton =====<br />
Last week:<br />
* Closed {{bug|490141}}<br />
* Patch committed for {{bug|490097}}.<br />
* Put up patches for {{bug|465269}}, {{bug|490097}}, and {{bug|498519}}.<br />
* Created {{bug|502900}}.<br />
* Replicated a MozMill failure for nth10sd.<br />
<br />
This week:<br />
* Add tests for {{bug|465269}}, fix the reported bug, and post new patch.<br />
* Look into beta 4 blockers {{bug|503436}}, {{bug|502856}}, {{bug|495478}}, and possibly {{bug|248681}} if we know what we want it to look like.<br />
<br />
===== mkmelin =====<br />
<br />
=== Attendees ===<br />
<br />
__NOTOC__</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-06-23&diff=151311Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-06-232009-06-23T16:56:36Z<p>Beckley: /* beckley */</p>
<hr />
<div><small>[[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-06-16|last meeting]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings|index]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-06-30|next meeting &raquo;]]</small><br />
<br />
'''Thunderbird Meeting Details''' : <br />
<br />
* [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=06&day=23&hour=16&min=30&sec=0 Tuesday, June 23th, 16:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)<br />
* [[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]<br />
<br />
== Agenda ==<br />
<br />
* Who's taking minutes? --> '''asuth'''<br />
* [http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.<br />
<br />
=== Action Items ===<br />
<br />
==== New ====<br />
<br />
==== Open ====<br />
<br />
* Autoconfig process - work in progress<br />
<br />
==== Closed ====<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b3|Thunderbird 3 Beta 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* Planned Freeze Dates ( ''All dates use time of 23:59 PST'' )<br />
** Slushy String freeze date: TBD<br />
** Slushy Code Freeze date: TBD<br />
** Firm String / Code freeze date: TBD<br />
** l10n-mozilla-1.9.1 freeze date: TBD<br />
** Target Build Ship date: TBD<br />
* dmose is release driver<br />
* gozer is build engineer<br />
<br />
* Search ({{Bug|474701}})<br />
** gloda search patch posted for review.<br />
** Try server builds underway, but read [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=474701#c158 comments on bug] first.<br />
*** [http://s3.mozillamessaging.com/build/try-server/2009-06-23_03:13-asutherland@asutherland.org-gsl-v3/asutherland@asutherland.org-gsl-v3-mail-try-linux.tar.bz2 linux]<br />
*** [http://s3.mozillamessaging.com/build/try-server/2009-06-23_03:13-asutherland@asutherland.org-gsl-v3/asutherland@asutherland.org-gsl-v3-mail-try-mac.dmg mac]<br />
*** Windows in progress.<br />
<br />
* Beta 3 stated as the release for all work with serious downstream work impact (ui, backend, l10n, etc). Anything that isn't like that should be pushed out into Beta 4.<br />
<br />
* Blockers/Wanted<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 37 (-2)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 26 (-2)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux] 12 (-1)<br />
* Proposed Blocking (all milestones)<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 42 (+3)<br />
* Fixed:<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 136 (+11)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 45 (+8)<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b4|Thunderbird 3 Beta 4]] ===<br />
<br />
* Release Driver: Standard8<br />
* Build Engineer: gozer<br />
<br />
* Blockers/Wanted<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b4&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b4}} 38 (+5)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b4}} 3 (+2)<br />
** b3ux TBD<br />
<!-- ** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux] 15 --><br />
* Proposed Blocking (all milestones)<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 42 (+3)<br />
* Fixed:<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b4}} 0<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b4}} 0<br />
<br />
* Not much to say on Beta 4 until B3 is sorted out.<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:Final|Thunderbird 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap]]<br />
<br />
* Blockers<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+] 149 (+8)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=tb3needs&sharer_id=1537 TB 3 Needs]: 10 (+4)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 42 (+8)<br />
<br />
* Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.<br />
* If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don't want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.<br />
<br />
=== QA Updates ===<br />
* Had quite a successful buday as new comers came and did a Great Job.<br />
* We are approaching the 2k barrier of UNCO bugs<br />
* Need a better idea of TB3b3 to schedule the litmus effort<br />
<br />
=== Marketing Updates ===<br />
* Press watch: a few articles on Thunderbird 2.0.0.22, [http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/microsoftpri0/2009370406_paul_allen_launches_xiant_software_company_with_an.html Xiant announcement] on Monday an add-on for Outlook<br />
* Drafted [http://www.rebron.org/marketing/logo/creative-brief-thunderbird-3.png Thunderbird icon creative brief] <br />
* Getting NectarPR up to speed<br />
<br />
=== IT update ===<br />
<br />
* Incoming phone calls to the MoMo phone numbers is now coming into our own Asterisk server<br />
* Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 was released.<br />
* Internal mirror of hg.mozilla.org up and running<br />
<br />
=== Documentation ===<br />
<br />
* finish review of mozilla.org content<br />
** selected content transferred to MDC<br />
** dev reviews in progress<br />
* repository reorg<br />
* get commit access to mozillamessaging.com and mozilla.org (latter postponed because of upcoming move to SVN)<br />
* sort out issues with location of historical release notes (completion pending commit access)<br />
* move and consolidate code review docs<br />
* trivia (bugs, templates, MDC fiddling)<br />
<br />
=== Roundtable ===<br />
<br />
* Would like to point out that [http://blog.mozilla.com/nnethercote/2009/05/28/mac-os-x-now-supported-on-the-valgrind-trunk/ Valgrind] seems to be an excellent tool to detect memory leaks and other stuff, on Linux / Mac. -nth10sd<br />
** Mac support was just added last month.<br />
** Can QA make use of this to find bad stuff?<br />
<br />
==== Status Updates ====<br />
<br />
===== nth10sd =====<br />
<br />
* Out from next week for a fortnight.<br />
* Pinged people on patchlove for updated patches - 2-3 responded, some positive.<br />
* patchlove has <=7 more bugs with patches that are non-obsolete.<br />
* Will look through year-long pending reviews to see if any are bit-rotted.<br />
** Should finish by this week.<br />
* qawanted - {{bug|431250}}<br />
* patchlove - {{bug|119630}}, {{bug|224392}} amongst others.<br />
<br />
===== sid0 =====<br />
* {{Bug|467768}} v1 up.<br />
* Patch for {{bug|499273}} posted.<br />
* Got asuth's Mozmill tests working on Windows. (Revised [https://developer.mozilla.org/User:Sid0/Mailnews/Mozmill_on_Windows steps] for anyone who's interested. If you follow these steps and still have trouble, ping me on IRC.)<br />
** Still some trouble with debug builds hanging at shutdown -- opt builds are good.<br />
<br />
===== davida =====<br />
<br />
===== dmose =====<br />
<br />
===== Standard8 =====<br />
<br />
* Reviews & Driving<br />
* Keep hitting & filing js assertions<br />
** So far filed {{Bug|497355}} and {{Bug|499661}}<br />
* xpcshell-test leaks<br />
** Landed the gloda shutdown tidy up.<br />
** Worked with David Bienvenu, managed to reduce the reported leaks by a significant amount. Most leaks probably test case issues or not-frequently-hit real leaks.<br />
** {{Bug|498147}} tracks the remaining leaks.<br />
* Send In Background<br />
** Made progress on simplifying the send listeners so that we can have send/copy failure management without modal dialogs affecting us.<br />
** {{Bug|499275}} Dropped some redundant code found whilst trying to simplify the listeners.<br />
<br />
===== asuth =====<br />
<br />
===== bienvenu =====<br />
* Reviews and Driving<br />
* Worked with Standard8 on driving unit test leaks to essentially 0. Fixed several actual leaks in the backend, and a few problems in the unit tests. {{bug|498303}}, {{bug|498323}, {{bug|499446}}, {{bug|498323}}<br />
* Quiet assertion caused by filter on empty custom header, {{bug|498496}}<br />
* Fixed copy service notification when moving imap folders within a server, so multiple moves to same target will work, and added unit test {{bug|496905}}<br />
* Fixed {{bug|498914}}, gloda assertions when moving folders<br />
* Fixed rename with imap fake server, and made it more forgiving w/ subscribe/unsubscribe, {{bug|497959}}<br />
* Don't show alert for new mail when IMAP STATUS tells us the unread count has increased in Junk or Trash folders, {{bug|487418}}<br />
* Added way for db pending listeners to know when db has been opened, and make nsMsgDBView use a pending listener {{bug|499064}}<br />
* Fixed navigation in stand-alone msg window, and add mozmill test, {{bug|498334}}<br />
<br />
Next week<br />
* Continue working on folder display refactoring regression fixes for b3, and whatever other b3 issues arise.<br />
* Work on {{bug|499806}} add simple query/enumerate w/ search term criteriafilter to nsIMsgDatabase to help gloda find messages that need indexing.<br />
<br />
===== gozer =====<br />
<br />
* Build<br />
** hg.m.o mirror inside our build network<br />
*** Enabling hg clone --uncompressed has showed great improvements in clone time<br />
**** Need a smart way to decide when to use it (client.py could learn some tricks)<br />
*** Planning to switch over all our builds over to it progressively.<br />
** Try Server improvements as a side-effect of the hg mirror<br />
*** Talking to the hg mirror (via <code>/etc/hosts</code> for now)<br />
*** Faster builds already!<br />
*** Not using --uncompressed yet, to try it, include this [http://pastebin.mozilla.org/658979 patch] in your next try build<br />
** Code signing<br />
*** Started tracking progress in {{bug|499709}}<br />
<br />
* Web<br />
** Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 release was nice and smooth<br />
*** Noticeable traffic spike as a result, nothing alarming<br />
<br />
* Infrastructure<br />
** Incoming phone calls are coming directly to us<br />
** All blades are up and running<br />
** More monitoring is a good thing<br />
<br />
===== clarkbw =====<br />
<br />
* Last Week<br />
** bugs<br />
*** {{bug|248681}} reply / reply all toggle mockups<br />
*** {{bug|496375}} tango icon for send<br />
*** {{bug|498519}} attachments inline notifications<br />
*** {{bug|408370}} STEEL<br />
*** {{bug|431217}} Send button disabled until have recipients<br />
** ui-reviews<br />
*** {{bug|339227}} cut/copy/paste in AB<br />
** calendar bugs<br />
** off friday<br />
* This Week<br />
** Reply / Reply All toggle<br />
** XP / Vista theme changes<br />
** Inline attachment reminders<br />
<br />
===== wsmwk =====<br />
* filed: <br />
** {{Bug|499923}} to add #tb-qa and Thunderbird bugdays to http://irc.mozilla.org<br />
** {{Bug|499926}} please add Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 to talkback topcrashes<br />
** {{Bug|498475}} New: junk mail not moving - error console nsJunkMailPlugin.resetTrainingData nsresult 0x80004001 location .... preferences/privacy.js line 67<br />
** {{Bug|499774}} startup crash [@ nsAString_internal::Capacity] interface nsIMsgFolder changed without required uuid bump<br />
* bug triage: junk<br />
* recruited ppl to help with junk bugs<br />
<br />
===== beckley =====<br />
<br />
====== Penelope ======<br />
<br />
* Work on the Eudora's About dialog, adding the [http://www.mozilla.org/projects/powered-by.html Powered by Mozilla] logo and rearranging code to be more similar to Thunderbird<br />
* Some more patches to the filter auto-name code: {{bug|457745}}<br />
<br />
===== KaiRo =====<br />
*Got SeaMonkey release automation to fully work in a testing setup, filed a number of patches, waiting for reviews on them now. Next SeaMonkey beta should be able to come off that harness, hopefully.<br />
*Corrected Thunderbird nightly link on www.m.o/developer<br />
*Released SeaMonkey 1.1.17 in parallel with Thunderbird 2.0.0.22<br />
*SeaMonkey people get nervous about indefinite beta postponement caused by Thunderbird<br />
<br />
===== rkent =====<br />
I'm working in the following areas:<br />
<br />
* Filter functionality<br />
** {{Bug|198100}} This bug enables running a normal filter after the bayes filter, which enables junk-related search terms, and IMAP body search. I decided to change direction on this slightly, automating the selection of when to run the filter, so I removed a patch from review.<br />
** {{Bug|495519}} "Allow extensions to add custom search terms" is largely working, just cleaning up some of the UI hooks.<br />
** {{Bug|310359}} "search all address fields capability (Bcc:s too!)" is holding while a new contributor (Dossy) considers working on a piece of it in {{Bug|488577}} "Support BCC in online IMAP search"<br />
** {{Bug|105169}} "Filter for Attachments" has a discussion going in m.d.a.t about management of MIME processing, which is the key issue here.<br />
** {{Bug|497622}} "IMAP cross-server move fails silently after a copy to a different folder" addresses a long-standing critical bug, that the copy service sometimes loses message copies. It primarily occurs in filtering operations, including {{Bug|448337}}.<br />
** {{Bug|257415}} "Add filtering for IMAP folders other than the INBOX" has a working patch that be used by an extension to enable this.<br />
* Database information preservation<br />
** landed {{Bug|340866}} which is the last of the main bugs in this series.<br />
** Additional bugs in special circumstances still exist, including {{Bug|495666}} and {{Bug|368415}}<br />
* NEW flag management.<br />
** Landed {{Bug|272963}} "Status of incoming mail is not set to 'new' before filtering can act on it" Although aimed at filters, it changed NEW flag management slightly in a critical way.<br />
** The mother bug here is {{Bug|372372}} "Search folder for NEW items does not display correct counts". I have a patch I am running here that, in combination with 272963, allows NEW flag search folders to give correct counts for the first time. However, because it never worked before, there are many missing notifications that need to be found and fixed in followup bugs.<br />
<br />
===== rebron =====<br />
* Shadowing Firefox marketing team on 3.5 launch activities.<br />
<br />
===== Tsk =====<br />
* Did some progress on runtest.py thanks to bwitton <br />
* Status quo for now on the ISP list<br />
* On vacation in the upcoming week.<br />
<br />
===== andreasn =====<br />
* Last week<br />
** Icons bugs work<br />
** Address book graphics<br />
** Spoke to Ubuntu devs and tried to work out {{Bug|426930}} that affects both FF and TB<br />
<br />
* This week<br />
** Linux toolbar icons and css<br />
** Account Central css<br />
** Folder Summary css<br />
** Autoconfiguration layout<br />
<br />
===== bwinton =====<br />
Last week:<br />
* Closed {{bug|45715}}, {{bug|490105}}, and {{bug|496440}}.<br />
* Patches up for review for {{bug|498519}}, and {{bug|495113}}.<br />
* Started looking into {{bug|490141}}.<br />
* Got mozmill up and running, with Tsk's help.<br />
* Helped Tsk with some Python stuff.<br />
<br />
This week:<br />
* Continue working on {{bug|490141}}.<br />
* Look into tb3-blocker {{bug|499265}}.<br />
* Look into {{bug|248681}} and {{bug|498448}}.<br />
* Fix existing patches as per reviewers suggestions.<br />
<br />
=== Attendees ===<br />
<br />
__NOTOC__</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-06-16&diff=149712Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-06-162009-06-16T16:37:40Z<p>Beckley: /* beckley */</p>
<hr />
<div><small>[[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-06-09|last meeting]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings|index]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-06-23|next meeting &raquo;]]</small><br />
<br />
'''Thunderbird Meeting Details''' : <br />
<br />
* [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=06&day=16&hour=16&min=30&sec=0 Tuesday, June 16th, 16:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)<br />
* [[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]<br />
<br />
== Agenda ==<br />
<br />
* Who's taking minutes? --> '''dmose'''<br />
* [http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.<br />
<br />
=== Action Items ===<br />
<br />
==== New ====<br />
<br />
<br />
==== Open ====<br />
<br />
* Autoconfig process - work in progress<br />
<br />
==== Closed ====<br />
<br />
* Muting status meeting - gozer (now muted by default + "announces" new arrivals).<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b3|Thunderbird 3 Beta 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* Planned Freeze Dates ( ''All dates use time of 23:59 PST'' )<br />
** Slushy String freeze date: TBD<br />
** Slushy Code Freeze date: TBD<br />
** Firm String / Code freeze date: TBD<br />
** l10n-mozilla-1.9.1 freeze date: TBD<br />
** Target Build Ship date: TBD<br />
* dmose is release driver<br />
* gozer is build engineer<br />
<br />
* Search ({{Bug|474701}}) - folder display patch landed<br />
** reviews to asuth, submodule changes under discussion<br />
<br />
* Beta 3 stated as the release for all work with serious downstream work impact (ui, backend, l10n, etc). Anything that isn't like that should be pushed out into Beta 4.<br />
<br />
* Blockers/Wanted<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 39 (+5)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 28 (+3)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux] 13 (0)<br />
* Proposed Blocking (all milestones)<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 39 (+5)<br />
* Fixed:<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 125 (+3)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 37 (0)<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b4|Thunderbird 3 Beta 4]] ===<br />
<br />
* Release Driver: Standard8<br />
* Build Engineer: gozer<br />
<br />
* Blockers/Wanted<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b4&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b4}} 33 (0)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b4}} 2 (+1)<br />
** b3ux TBD<br />
<!-- ** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux] 15 --><br />
* Proposed Blocking (all milestones)<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 39 (+5)<br />
* Fixed:<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b4}} 0<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b4}} 0<br />
<br />
<br />
Not much to say on Beta 4 until B3 is sorted out.<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:Final|Thunderbird 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap]]<br />
<br />
* Blockers<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+] 141 (+8)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=tb3needs&sharer_id=1537 TB 3 Needs]: 6 (+1)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 39 (+5)<br />
<br />
* Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.<br />
* If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don't want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.<br />
<br />
=== QA Updates ===<br />
* Usual bug day<br />
* Participated in testing the refactoring<br />
* Waiting on date to organize the rest<br />
* Email about UI refactoring sent to [https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/thunderbird-testers thunderbird-tester] mailing list<br />
* This week will be a regular bugday.<br />
<br />
=== Marketing Updates ===<br />
* Welcome to NectarPR who we've got on board to help with pr and launch.<br />
* Continuing work with Thunderbird icon refresh. Targeting next Monday to get designer on board.<br />
* Check out [http://mozillaservice.org Mozilla Service Week] Sept 14 - 21.<br />
<br />
=== IT update ===<br />
<br />
* Buildbot performance/reliability improvements<br />
* Setting up a staging buildbot installation<br />
* Working at solving our issues with Hg<br />
<br />
=== Documentation ===<br />
* continued work on porting / archiving content on mozilla.org<br />
** moved code review requirements to MDC; updated with input from Standard8, dmose, bienvenu<br />
* blog asuth's new how-tos<br />
* ongoing notations / links for newsgroup threads on MDC<br />
* short week - attended Open Web conference<br />
<br />
=== Roundtable ===<br />
<br />
==== xpcshell Tests & Leak Logs (Standard8) ====<br />
<br />
* Thanks to Serge Gautherie for finishing and landing {{bug|384339}}, this means that check-interactive works correctly even with tail_*.js scripts in xpcshell tests.<br />
* Now have landed mailnews shutdown scripts for everything bar mailnews/db/gloda.<br />
** Therefore reported leaks for xpcshell-tests are either '''real leaks''' or '''issues in the testcases'''.<br />
** {{Bug|498147}} is the tracking bug for leaks in MailNews - bugs already filed for existing leaks.<br />
** Some leak bugs cover multiple tests as they are most likely caused by one issue.<br />
* mailnews/db/gloda will hopefully land soon.<br />
* Standard8 happy to try and help resolve leaks in new tests.<br />
<br />
==== Status Updates ====<br />
<br />
===== nth10sd =====<br />
<br />
* On hiatus from end-June for 2 weeks<br />
* Left with ~10 Mail patchloves with non-obsolete patches - should finish by end-June<br />
** Will ping about obsolete patchlove patches, to hopefully get updated patches<br />
* Testing {{bug|474701}} post-landing, confirming a number of bugs.<br />
* Came up with Gmail IMAP testcase for {{bug|498156}} - Chinese HTML testcase<br />
* Parallel push of closemes / labelling with wsmwk<br />
* {{bug|345040}}, {{bug|62026}} - patchloves<br />
* {{bug|340779}} - qawanted for the week<br />
<br />
===== sid0 =====<br />
* {{Bug|467768}}.<br />
* UI refactoring testing.<br />
* Lots of problems with the multiplexed message pane (e.g. several problems for which there are workarounds in 467768, or {{bug|498514}}.) Thinking of taking the bug to de-multiplex the message pane.<br />
* Still having a bit of trouble with mozmill, though asuth has some patches that should help.<br />
<br />
===== davida =====<br />
<br />
===== dmose =====<br />
* Last week<br />
** 3.0b3 driving<br />
** MoMo board meeting/strategy work<br />
** blogged jQuery / Protovis plans<br />
** worked on [[User:Dmose:Helping_New_Lightning_Hackers|project to recruit and train new Lightning hackers]]; handed off ownership to Fallen<br />
** floated new submodule proposals<br />
* This week<br />
** drive in compact header extraction patch<br />
** push on calendar contractor hiring<br />
<br />
===== Standard8 =====<br />
<br />
* Reviews & Driving<br />
* Unit Tests - Cleaning up leak output {{Bug|438922}}, see above.<br />
* {{Bug|497891}} Incorrect plural rules for thread counts in summary page for collapsed threads and multiple selections.<br />
* Send in background<br />
** More work on moving this forward.<br />
* Content Tabs<br />
** {{Bug|497570}} Investigated providing basic navigation support<br />
** {{Bug|498018}} Hooked up print<br />
<br />
===== asuth =====<br />
<br />
===== bienvenu =====<br />
* Reviews and Driving<br />
* UI refactoring testing<br />
* Fixed fake server to quote folder name in status response, {{bug|497503}}<br />
* Fixed hang when trying to append a file to an imap folder and the file read returns 0 bytes, {{bug|497598}}<br />
* Expand collapsed threads when new messages come into open views, {{bug|494811}}<br />
* Fixed local folder empty trash regression, {{bug|498331}}<br />
* If imap folder create fails, list parent to see if it supports children, {{bug|492921}}<br />
* Worked on some imap fake server issues with LIST command - that and other patches awaiting review.<br />
<br />
===== gozer =====<br />
<br />
* Build<br />
** ftp.m.o nightly directory re-org today! {{bug|481685}}<br />
** Buildbot<br />
*** Upgraded twisted<br />
*** Buildbot master got migrated to a faster VM with speedier I/O<br />
** Investigated the ongoing issues with 'hg clone'<br />
*** <code>hg clone --uncompressed</code> looks promising<br />
**** < 5 minute mozilla-central clone from a local LAN mirror on OS X<br />
<br />
* Infrastructure<br />
** Better, deeper monitoring of buildbot<br />
** Replaced the failed blade<br />
** Brought 4 new VM Server Hosts online<br />
** Tested [http://www.vmware.com/products/esxi VMWare ESXi]<br />
<br />
===== clarkbw =====<br />
<br />
===== wsmwk =====<br />
* extended bugzilla editbugs privs to: 1 person, 2 more in the works<br />
* grilled Bug 474701 landing for front end rework for new search ui<br />
* bug triage: General, junk, spelling, ...<br />
** 50+ bugs closed, 30 closemes pending<br />
<br />
===== beckley =====<br />
<br />
====== Penelope ======<br />
<br />
* [http://hg.mozilla.org/penelope/rev/b85d058b787a Russian localization of Penelope] by Alexander Slovesnik<br />
* Submitted a [https://trac.annodex.net/ticket/482 patch] of end-of-line issues with the upstream repo for liboggplay<br />
* [http://hg.mozilla.org/penelope/rev/66820522a1d4 Hid the quick recipient menus] (New Message To, Forward To, Redirect To) as the quick recipient feature is not implemented yet<br />
* {{bug|457745}} More patches and comments on the auto-naming filter patch<br />
* Some testing of Eudora 8 on Windows 7 RC showed some problems with importing from Classic Eudora, which involves some disk/file errors, but reproducibility is a problem<br />
<br />
===== KaiRo =====<br />
* Once again not here today due to attending a university course<br />
* Tested and verified that "L10n merge" works on new SeaMonkey buildbots (localized builds work even with incomplete localization due to merging in en-US strings) - Thunderbird can get this with new L10n repack classes<br />
* Started working on release automation for SeaMonkey, a lot of it is working already, should be able to use it for Beta 1<br />
* Did the big NEW->UNCONFIRMED bug change for old untouched SeaMonkey bugs and ran into some problems with Bugzilla, but finally succeeded (not without some embarrassment)<br />
* Driving SeaMonkey 1.1.17 release process in parallel with Thunderbird 2.0.0.22<br />
<br />
===== rkent =====<br />
<br />
===== rebron =====<br />
* Following [http://labs.mozilla.com/contests/extendfirefox3.5/ Extend Firefox contest] for our future Add-ons contest for Thunderbird 3.<br />
<br />
===== Tsk =====<br />
* Usual organizing <br />
* Working on ISP<br />
* Getting into python - not as fast as I would like.<br />
* Happy about the refactoring finally landing and the way the patches are pilling up.<br />
<br />
===== andreasn =====<br />
* Last week<br />
** Built TB on Mac<br />
** Multiple messages css {{bug|492158}}<br />
** Autoconfiguration layout (sent to clarkbw)<br />
** Compose icon experiments (still wip)<br />
<br />
* This week<br />
** Account Central<br />
** Multiple messages<br />
** Reply-to-list icons<br />
** Away Thu-Fri<br />
<br />
===== mkmelin =====<br />
<br />
===== bwinton =====<br />
<br />
Last week:<br />
* Patches committed for {{bug|45715}}, and {{bug|490105}}.<br />
* Patches up for review for {{bug|490106}}, {{bug|495113}}, and {{bug|496439}}.<br />
* Patches waiting for commit for {{bug|496440}}.<br />
<br />
This week:<br />
* Looking into {{bug|248681}}, {{bug|490097}}, {{bug|492438}}, {{bug|498448}}, {{bug|498480}}, and {{bug|498519}}.<br />
* Fixing any other Reply-List bugs that get reported.<br />
* Getting mozmill up and running so that I don't have to manually test everything all the time.<br />
<br />
=== Attendees ===<br />
<br />
__NOTOC__</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-06-09&diff=148072Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-06-092009-06-09T16:36:38Z<p>Beckley: /* beckley */</p>
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<div><small>[[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-06-02|last meeting]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings|index]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-06-16|next meeting &raquo;]]</small><br />
<br />
'''Thunderbird Meeting Details''' : <br />
<br />
* [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=06&day=09&hour=16&min=30&sec=0 Tuesday, June 9th, 16:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)<br />
* [[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]<br />
<br />
== Agenda ==<br />
<br />
* Who's taking minutes? --> '''dascher'''<br />
* [http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.<br />
<br />
=== Action Items ===<br />
<br />
==== New ====<br />
<br />
<br />
==== Open ====<br />
<br />
* Autoconfig process - work in progress<br />
* Muting status meeting - gozer <br />
<br />
==== Closed ====<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b3|Thunderbird 3 Beta 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* Planned Freeze Dates ( ''All dates use time of 23:59 PST'' )<br />
** Slushy String freeze date: TBD<br />
** Slushy Code Freeze date: TBD<br />
** Firm String / Code freeze date: TBD<br />
** l10n-mozilla-1.9.1 freeze date: TBD<br />
** Target Build Ship date: TBD<br />
* dmose is release driver<br />
* gozer is build engineer<br />
<br />
* Search ({{Bug|474701}}) will be landing over the next week or two and then we'll finish up the beta.<br />
** try server build while the patch is being reviewed<br />
** once it lands dates for b3 and b4.<br />
<br />
* Beta 3 stated as the release for all work with serious downstream work impact (ui, backend, l10n, etc). Anything that isn't like that should be pushed out into Beta 4.<br />
<br />
* Blocking bugs are now allowed to be owned by nobody@mozilla.org. <br />
** Changing this policy helps make the list better reflect reality w.r.t. which bugs are actually getting attention and which ones aren't.<br />
<br />
* Blockers/Wanted<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 34 (+1)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 25 (0)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux] 13 (0)<br />
* Proposed Blocking (all milestones)<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 34 (0)<br />
* Fixed:<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 121 (+17)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 37 (+3)<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b4|Thunderbird 3 Beta 4]] ===<br />
<br />
* Release Driver: Standard8<br />
* Build Engineer: gozer<br />
<br />
* Blockers/Wanted<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b4&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b4}} 33 (+1)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b4}} 1 (-1)<br />
** b3ux TBD<br />
<!-- ** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux] 15 --><br />
* Proposed Blocking (all milestones)<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 34 (0)<br />
* Fixed:<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b4}} 0<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b4 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b4}} 0<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:Final|Thunderbird 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap]]<br />
<br />
* Blockers<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+] 133 (0)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=tb3needs&sharer_id=1537 TB 3 Needs]: 5 (0)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 34 (0)<br />
<br />
* Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.<br />
* If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don't want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.<br />
<br />
* Moved forward discussion on statistics & AUS.<br />
** Hoping to get work for AUS switch (to MoMo based server) started soon, maybe to happen before b3, if not, soon after.<br />
<br />
=== QA Updates ===<br />
* Had our usual Bugday<br />
* A few contributors joined.<br />
* Bug flow seems lower than usual<br />
* Waiting fro rivers meeting to decide what to organize this week.<br />
<br />
=== Marketing Updates ===<br />
* Heads down on Thunderbird icon refresh. Drafting creative brief.<br />
* Get Satisfaction integration moving along, blogging plans this week.<br />
<br />
=== IT update ===<br />
<br />
* Created a corporate Wiki for company private information<br />
** Ask me for access (better, file a bug)<br />
* Infrastructure is in place to host our own blogs (Wordpress)<br />
** If you need a blog hosted, let me know<br />
<br />
=== Documentation ===<br />
<br />
=== Roundtable ===<br />
<br />
==== Status Updates ====<br />
<br />
===== nth10sd =====<br />
<br />
* Found {{bug|497059}} - Hang with unreliable wifi connection, either when re-connecting to email server, or on shutdown<br />
** Finally found its STR when struggling with home net downtime.<br />
* Found the regression window for {{bug|496273}} - Cannot unsubscribe newsgroup (Error: server is undefined)<br />
* bugdays, QA, triage<br />
* qawanted {{bug|340168}}<br />
* patchlove {{bug|277043}}<br />
<br />
===== sid0 =====<br />
* {Bug|467768} still blocked by {bug|474701}.<br />
* Got [https://developer.mozilla.org/User:Sid0/Mailnews/Mozmill_on_Windows Mozmill tests working on Windows].<br />
<br />
===== davida =====<br />
<br />
===== dmose =====<br />
* 3.0b3 driving<br />
* MoMo goals work<br />
* calendaring planning; also attended CalConnect shared calendaring workshop<br />
* compact header view extraction work (found some issues; almost there)<br />
<br />
===== Standard8 =====<br />
<br />
* Reviews & Driving<br />
* Landed {{Bug|495232}} dropping Palm Sync Support.<br />
* Started discussion on reorganising ftp directories {{Bug|481685}}.<br />
* More tab & contentTabType improvements<br />
** {{Bug|495818}} Zoom/Find<br />
** {{Bug|496647}} Content Titles<br />
* {{Bug|440794}} Send in background<br />
** {{Bug|28211}} Worked on fixing up the copy to sent folder prompts to give automated retry and fall back so that we can avoid the requirement for a modal prompt in the middle of the send code.<br />
<br />
===== asuth =====<br />
<br />
===== bienvenu =====<br />
* Reviews and Driving<br />
* Landed possible fix for {{bug|492963}}, crash in [@morkTableRowCursor::NextRow]<br />
* Fix crashes with offline imap operations, {{bug|480090}}<br />
* Add reverse message enumerator to db so folder summary can show newest messages {{bug|495109}}<br />
* Fixed smart archives folder to use archive icon, {{bug|496562}}<br />
* Fixed cleanup of msg database in news tests that lead to some leaks/failures once the rest of the profile was cleaned up at the end, {{bug|496557}}<br />
* Add some checks for null obj->options and obj->options->state as potential fix for occasional crash stats stack in MimeMultipart_parse_line {{bug|482879}}<br />
* Make mimemsg resilient in the face of multiple attempts to stream the same message, {{bug|495304}}<br />
* Make next unread land on actual message instead of collapsed thread, {{bug|495642}}<br />
* Make summarize selection defer rapid repeated calls, {{bug|496318}}<br />
* Fix crash in hdr property enumerator if msg hdr gets deleted first {{bug|492116}}<br />
* Fix missing/duplicate imap msg hdr issues, {{bug|414723}}<br />
* Fixed crash replying to multiple messages, {{bug|495665}}<br />
* Don't load first message in collapsed thread before displaying summary, {{bug|495304}}<br />
* Landed Bron Gondwana's patch to add support for IMAP RFC 4978, IMAP Compress {{bug|401673}}<br />
<br />
Next week - more work on stability issues, and gloda-related patches<br />
<br />
===== gozer =====<br />
<br />
<i>Back from vacation!</i><br />
<br />
* Build<br />
** Small fix to clobberer<br />
** Completed pooling of all builders across all platforms<br />
<br />
* Infrastructure<br />
** Corporate intranet<br />
*** Ask for access if you need it<br />
** MozillaMessaging hosted Wordpress-MU ready<br />
*** Ask for access if you need it<br />
<br />
===== clarkbw =====<br />
<br />
===== wsmwk =====<br />
* extended bugzilla editbugs privs to: 1 person, 2 more in the works<br />
* notable: some lost profile/prefs issues should be fixed by {{Bug|477934}} nsSafeFileOutputStream (prefs.js) not safe from system crashes. Landed on trunk 2009-05-12. It will also be applied to 1.8.1.22 and picked up by TB2<br />
* bug triage<br />
* filed {{Bug|495978}} Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 does not appear in selection list of talkback topcrashes<br />
<br />
===== beckley =====<br />
<br />
====== Penelope ======<br />
<br />
* {{bug|376511}} - Session Management: Toc view column ordering not remembered between launches<br />
* {{bug|487167}} - need option to always display tabs<br />
* {{bug|496369}} - Junk and Trash mailboxes opened when "automatically open mailboxes that receive new messages" is selected, reading focus is changed.<br />
* {{bug|457745}} - Filters: Auto-assign a meaningful name.<br />
<br />
===== KaiRo =====<br />
<br />
===== rkent =====<br />
<br />
===== rebron =====<br />
<br />
===== Tsk =====<br />
* did<br />
** usual Triage, Bugday, adding tests in litmus<br />
** worked on ISP config a bit<br />
** worked on runtest.py a bit<br />
** Last monday was Off<br />
* Ongoing <br />
** ISP<br />
** Preparing b3 testing<br />
<br />
===== andreasn =====<br />
<br />
=== Attendees ===<br />
<br />
__NOTOC__</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-05-19&diff=144742Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-05-192009-05-19T17:01:13Z<p>Beckley: /* Attendees */</p>
<hr />
<div><small>[[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-05-12|last meeting]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings|index]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-05-26|next meeting &raquo;]]</small><br />
<br />
'''Thunderbird Meeting Details''' : <br />
<br />
* [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=05&day=19&hour=16&min=30&sec=0 Tuesday, May 19th, 16:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)<br />
* [[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]<br />
<br />
== Agenda ==<br />
<br />
* Who's taking minutes? --> '''_Tsk_'''<br />
* [http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.<br />
<br />
=== Action Items ===<br />
<br />
* Autoconfig process - Ludo<br />
* Muting status meeting - gozer<br />
<br />
==== New ====<br />
<br />
==== Open ====<br />
<br />
==== Closed ====<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b3|Thunderbird 3 Beta 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* Planned Freeze Dates ( ''All dates use time of 23:59 PST'' )<br />
** Slushy String freeze date: TBD<br />
** Slushy Code Freeze date: TBD<br />
** Firm String / Code freeze date: TBD<br />
** l10n-mozilla-1.9.1 freeze date: TBD<br />
** Target Build Ship date: TBD<br />
* dmose is release driver<br />
* gozer is build engineer<br />
<br />
* Search will be landing over the next week or two and then we'll finish up the beta.<br />
** try server build while the patch is being reviewed<br />
** once it lands dates for b3 and b4.<br />
<br />
* Have a look at your bugs and triage for blockerb3 or push to b4<br />
<br />
* Blockers/Wanted<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 57 (-6)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 25 (-3)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux] 24 (-1)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (b3)|blocking-thunderbird3%3F|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 1 (0)<br />
* Fixed:<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 92 (+13)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 29 (+5)<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:Final|Thunderbird 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap]]<br />
<br />
We will have a beta4 - quick cycle for it. <br />
<br />
* We're planning on adding one more beta - lots of work is getting done but the blocker list isn't going down as quickly as we need it to, mostly because of the reality that landing big new features adds bugs.<br />
<br />
* Blockers<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+] 134 (0)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=tb3needs&sharer_id=1537 TB 3 Needs]: 5 (+1)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 22 (+2)<br />
<br />
* Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.<br />
* If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don't want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.<br />
<br />
=== QA Updates ===<br />
* Did a linux special last week - people from Fedora and OpenSuse projects showed up - a few bugs got updated.<br />
* Doing the gmail special this week<br />
* Gary's starting week (for the summer)<br />
* looking into reducing the number of in-litmus? requests<br />
<br />
=== Marketing Updates ===<br />
* Getting PR team on board.<br />
* Still searching for Tech Support Lead.<br />
<br />
=== IT update ===<br />
<br />
* All new hardware initial setup completed<br />
* GPG build signing is ready for testing<br />
* Catching up with mozilla's buildbot setup is going great<br />
* This week: trying different way to improve our build machines IO performance.<br />
<br />
=== Documentation ===<br />
* created new TB doc page (based on DavidA's draft): [http://developer.mozilla.org/En/Extensions/Thunderbird/An_overview_of_the_Thunderbird_interface An overview of the Thunderbird interface]. In progress: still need to gather IDLs relevant to each section, get volunteer help in writing snippets that illustrate the examples, edit, screenshots, etc. I'll ask for reviews and contributions later this week.<br />
* created [http://developer.mozilla.org/Project:en/Custom_Templates#Version_information_templates|Thunderbird-specific version templates] (based on Sheppy's FF templates)<br />
* talked to humph regarding getting TB community contributions to docs (and generally raising profile of TB within the Mozilla community)<br />
* talked to Justin regarding TB on Mozilla add-ons blog<br />
<br />
=== Roundtable ===<br />
<br />
* Have we considered UI appearance on Netbook devices?<br />
* Example images (on Ubuntu Netbook Remix on a 10" Acer AspireOne AOD 150):<br />
** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/File:Screenshot2.png Collapsed message reader pane]<br />
** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/File:Screenshot3.png Default mail3pane]<br />
<br />
Bryan - Yes - 800x600 we should work in. Not optimized - but it should work.<br />
<br />
==== Status Updates ====<br />
<br />
===== nth10sd =====<br />
<br />
* Tested runtest.py (Mozmill automation script) last week.<br />
* Triage, QA, bugdays.<br />
* Starting for the summer.<br />
* Just back in Hong Kong for the summer - getting ADSL in-the-house on Friday, now on public wi-fi which can be quite unstable.<br />
* Thus, working more on Bugzilla triaging this week.<br />
<br />
===== sid0 =====<br />
<br />
* Landed {{bug|467116}} -- Merge default client dialog and search integration dialog into an "OS Integration" dialog.<br />
* Fixed {{bug|482966}} -- MAPI support for Windows Explorer Send To Mail Recipient doesn't work in 3.0b2 (regression due to jemalloc)<br />
** Spinoff: looked at {{bug|493060}} -- Installer default mail client option doesn't set it correctly on Windows XP. Looks like rs is fixing this for Firefox.<br />
* Worked on {{bug|466227}} -- gloda should index non-offline headers too. Patch looks almost ready, waiting for additional tests from {{bug|474701}}.<br />
<br />
===== davida =====<br />
<br />
===== dmose =====<br />
* last week<br />
** driving / reviews<br />
** ongoing content policy & other architectural discussions<br />
** calendaring work<br />
* goals for this week<br />
** get content policy security review scheduled<br />
** message header coding<br />
** b3 driving<br />
<br />
===== Standard8 =====<br />
<br />
* Reviews & Driving<br />
* {{Bug|374578}} Landed content policy patch<br />
* Did some more on {{Bug|326809}} 'modernize nsIMsgHeaderParser - |string| and |wstring| vs AString and AUTF8String' as the interface change meant bwinton could then use the interface for his patch on blocking {{bug|45715}}<br />
* {{Bug|492279}} Cookie Policies (improving policy for RSS & extensions)<br />
** Investigated the changes we need in core to get these done (thankfully it is all specific mailnews code).<br />
* {{Bug|440794}} Send In Background<br />
** Did a phase 1 patch for reworking the send later notifications and subsequent display on activity manager.<br />
** Next step: build on the phase 1 patch to include retry support for failed sends/copies.<br />
<br />
===== asuth =====<br />
<br />
===== bienvenu =====<br />
* Reviews and driving<br />
* Did some testing with asuth's gloda patches<br />
* Don't create special folders for hidden accounts, {{bug|492641}}<br />
* Fixed regression displaying msg count changes in the folder pane, {{bug|492951}}<br />
* Fixed hang in UpdateCacheAndviewforPrevSearchedFolders, {{bug|489993}}<br />
* Made imap autosync close db if status says there are no new messages, helps with memory bloat and file handle usage {{bug|470221}}<br />
* Added gmail xlist support for discovering "special" folders, {{bug|476260}}<br />
* Added gmail-specific archive action {{bug|475852}}<br />
* Added imap server attribute to tell if a server is a GMail server<br />
* Fixed smart folders with localized builds, {{bug|490747}}<br />
* Worked on filling out security review template for autoconfig<br />
* Did some thinking about implementing IMAP autosync time/space limits.<br />
* Worked with a contributor on adding IMAP COMPRESS support {{bug|401673}}<br />
<br />
Next Week<br />
* Work more with Andrew on gloda reviews/patches<br />
* Schedule security review for autoconfig<br />
* Work on b3 blockers<br />
* Investigate IMAP autosync time/space limits.<br />
<br />
===== gozer =====<br />
<br />
* Build<br />
** Buildbot server upgraded to 0.7.10 in production/unittest/try<br />
** L10n builds are now fixed<br />
** Unittest buildbot now using CCUnitTestFactory (shared with Firefox/Seamonkey/etc)<br />
** Buildbotcustom upgraded to tip in production/unittest/try<br />
** Try server busted at the moment {{bug|493421}}<br />
** Shark builds are back and stable<br />
<br />
* Infrastructure<br />
** All new hardware initial setup tasks are completed<br />
** GPG signing for releases is ready<br />
<br />
===== clarkbw =====<br />
<br />
===== wsmwk =====<br />
* finallly diagnosed {{Bug|458570}} message drag is canceled by new message alerts (obnoxious)<br />
* triaged Seamonkey mailnews bugs severity critical+major<br />
* extended bugzilla editbugs privs to: 3 people<br />
* updated [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Community/Bug_Watchers#Thunderbird_Components_-_Default_QA_Contact qa watchers] components and qa addresses<br />
* polled palmsync extension testers regarding Thunderbird 3<br />
* tracking/updating topcrashes<br />
* general triage<br />
<br />
===== beckley =====<br />
<br />
====== Penelope ======<br />
<br />
* Mainly been integrating latest TB sources into our Eudora/Penelope code, and having problems with the toolbar customization code which Penelope modifies quite substantially.<br />
<br />
===== KaiRo =====<br />
<br />
===== rkent =====<br />
<br />
===== rebron =====<br />
* Working on getting PR team on board.<br />
* Coming up: [https://wiki.mozilla.org/AMO:Events/Meet-up/2009-05-26 Add-ons Meet up next week]<br />
<br />
===== Tsk =====<br />
* runtest.py landed - will continue working on it.<br />
* daily triaging<br />
* looking into in-litmus? request for resolved bugs<br />
* readying for b3 testing<br />
<br />
===== andreasn =====<br />
* Last week<br />
** Account Central look&feel {{bug|489999}}<br />
** archive icons for all platforms<br />
** patches for UI b3ux blockers {{bug|488109}}, {{bug|488107}}<br />
** Activity manager stuff {{bug|476695}}<br />
<br />
* This week<br />
** Folder view look&feel<br />
** Finish Autoconfiguration layout work.<br />
** Pinstripe and Qute fixes.<br />
<br />
===== IanN =====<br />
* Next free time for coding is 23rd-31st May.<br />
* Need to chase outstanding "New bugzilla components" requests.<br />
* Still working on TNEF attachments ({{Bug|77811}}).<br />
<br />
=== Attendees ===<br />
davida, gozer, davidb, standard8, sid0, nth10sd, Asuth, Clarkwb, jenz, beckley<br />
__NOTOC__</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-05-19&diff=144724Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-05-192009-05-19T16:48:51Z<p>Beckley: /* beckley */</p>
<hr />
<div><small>[[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-05-12|last meeting]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings|index]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-05-26|next meeting &raquo;]]</small><br />
<br />
'''Thunderbird Meeting Details''' : <br />
<br />
* [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=05&day=19&hour=16&min=30&sec=0 Tuesday, May 19th, 16:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)<br />
* [[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]<br />
<br />
== Agenda ==<br />
<br />
* Who's taking minutes? --> '''_Tsk_'''<br />
* [http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.<br />
<br />
=== Action Items ===<br />
<br />
==== New ====<br />
<br />
==== Open ====<br />
<br />
==== Closed ====<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b3|Thunderbird 3 Beta 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* Planned Freeze Dates ( ''All dates use time of 23:59 PST'' )<br />
** Slushy String freeze date: TBD<br />
** Slushy Code Freeze date: TBD<br />
** Firm String / Code freeze date: TBD<br />
** l10n-mozilla-1.9.1 freeze date: TBD<br />
** Target Build Ship date: TBD<br />
* dmose is release driver<br />
* gozer is build engineer<br />
<br />
* Search will be landing over the next week or two and then we'll finish up the beta.<br />
* Blockers/Wanted<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 57 (-6)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 25 (-3)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux] 24 (-1)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (b3)|blocking-thunderbird3%3F|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 1 (0)<br />
* Fixed:<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 92 (+13)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 29 (+5)<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:Final|Thunderbird 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap]]<br />
<br />
* We're planning on adding one more beta - lots of work is getting done but the blocker list isn't going down as quickly as we need it to, mostly because of the reality that landing big new features adds bugs.<br />
<br />
* Blockers<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+] 134 (0)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=tb3needs&sharer_id=1537 TB 3 Needs]: 5 (+1)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 22 (+2)<br />
<br />
* Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.<br />
* If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don't want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.<br />
<br />
=== QA Updates ===<br />
* Did a linux special last week - people from Fedora and OpenSuse projects showed up - a few bugs got updated.<br />
* Thinking about redoing the gmail special this week if gloda search does not land today<br />
* Gary's starting week (for the summer)<br />
* looking into reducing the number of in-litmus? requests<br />
<br />
=== Marketing Updates ===<br />
* Getting PR team on board.<br />
* Still searching for Tech Support Lead.<br />
<br />
=== IT update ===<br />
<br />
* All new hardware initial setup completed<br />
* GPG build signing is ready for testing<br />
* Catching up with mozilla's buildbot setup is going great<br />
* This week: trying different way to improve our build machines IO performance.<br />
<br />
=== Documentation ===<br />
* created new TB doc page (based on DavidA's draft): [http://developer.mozilla.org/En/Extensions/Thunderbird/An_overview_of_the_Thunderbird_interface|An overview of the Thunderbird interface]. In progress: still need to gather IDLs relevant to each section, get volunteer help in writing snippets that illustrate the examples, edit, screenshots, etc. I'll ask for reviews and contributions later this week.<br />
* created [http://developer.mozilla.org/Project:en/Custom_Templates#Version_information_templates|Thunderbird-specific version templates] (based on Sheppy's FF templates)<br />
* talked to humph regarding getting TB community contributions to docs (and generally raising profile of TB within the Mozilla community)<br />
* talked to Justin regarding TB on Mozilla add-ons blog<br />
<br />
=== Roundtable ===<br />
<br />
* Have we considered UI appearance on Netbook devices?<br />
* Example images (on Ubuntu Netbook Remix on a 10" Acer AspireOne AOD 150):<br />
** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/File:Screenshot2.png Collapsed message reader pane]<br />
** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/File:Screenshot3.png Default mail3pane]<br />
<br />
==== Status Updates ====<br />
<br />
===== nth10sd =====<br />
<br />
* Tested runtest.py (Mozmill automation script) last week.<br />
* Triage, QA, bugdays.<br />
* Starting for the summer.<br />
* Just back in Hong Kong for the summer - getting ADSL in-the-house on Friday, now on public wi-fi which can be quite unstable.<br />
* Thus, working more on Bugzilla triaging this week.<br />
<br />
===== sid0 =====<br />
<br />
* Landed {{bug|467116}} -- Merge default client dialog and search integration dialog into an "OS Integration" dialog.<br />
* Fixed {{bug|482966}} -- MAPI support for Windows Explorer Send To Mail Recipient doesn't work in 3.0b2 (regression due to jemalloc)<br />
** Spinoff: looked at {{bug|493060}} -- Installer default mail client option doesn't set it correctly on Windows XP. Looks like rs is fixing this for Firefox.<br />
* Worked on {{bug|466227}} -- gloda should index non-offline headers too. Patch looks almost ready, waiting for additional tests from {{bug|474701}}.<br />
<br />
===== davida =====<br />
<br />
===== dmose =====<br />
* last week<br />
** driving / reviews<br />
** ongoing content policy & other architectural discussions<br />
** calendaring work<br />
* goals for this week<br />
** get content policy security review scheduled<br />
** message header coding<br />
** b3 driving<br />
<br />
===== Standard8 =====<br />
<br />
* Reviews & Driving<br />
* {{Bug|374578}} Landed content policy patch<br />
* Did some more on {{Bug|326809}} 'modernize nsIMsgHeaderParser - |string| and |wstring| vs AString and AUTF8String' as the interface change meant bwinton could then use the interface for his patch on blocking {{bug|45715}}<br />
* {{Bug|492279}} Cookie Policies (improving policy for RSS & extensions)<br />
** Investigated the changes we need in core to get these done (thankfully it is all specific mailnews code).<br />
* {{Bug|440794}} Send In Background<br />
** Did a phase 1 patch for reworking the send later notifications and subsequent display on activity manager.<br />
** Next step: build on the phase 1 patch to include retry support for failed sends/copies.<br />
<br />
===== asuth =====<br />
<br />
===== bienvenu =====<br />
* Reviews and driving<br />
* Did some testing with asuth's gloda patches<br />
* Don't create special folders for hidden accounts, {{bug|492641}}<br />
* Fixed regression displaying msg count changes in the folder pane, {{bug|492951}}<br />
* Fixed hang in UpdateCacheAndviewforPrevSearchedFolders, {{bug|489993}}<br />
* Made imap autosync close db if status says there are no new messages, helps with memory bloat and file handle usage {{bug|470221}}<br />
* Added gmail xlist support for discovering "special" folders, {{bug|476260}}<br />
* Added gmail-specific archive action {{bug|475852}}<br />
* Added imap server attribute to tell if a server is a GMail server<br />
* Fixed smart folders with localized builds, {{bug|490747}}<br />
* Worked on filling out security review template for autoconfig<br />
* Did some thinking about implementing IMAP autosync time/space limits.<br />
* Worked with a contributor on adding IMAP COMPRESS support {{bug|401673}}<br />
<br />
Next Week<br />
* Work more with Andrew on gloda reviews/patches<br />
* Schedule security review for autoconfig<br />
* Work on b3 blockers<br />
* Investigate IMAP autosync time/space limits.<br />
<br />
===== gozer =====<br />
<br />
* Build<br />
** Buildbot server upgraded to 0.7.10 in production/unittest/try<br />
** L10n builds are now fixed<br />
** Unittest buildbot now using CCUnitTestFactory (shared with Firefox/Seamonkey/etc)<br />
** Buildbotcustom upgraded to tip in production/unittest/try<br />
** Try server busted at the moment {{bug|493421}}<br />
** Shark builds are back and stable<br />
<br />
* Infrastructure<br />
** All new hardware initial setup tasks are completed<br />
** GPG signing for releases is ready<br />
<br />
===== clarkbw =====<br />
<br />
===== wsmwk =====<br />
* finallly diagnosed {{Bug|458570}} message drag is canceled by new message alerts (obnoxious)<br />
* triaged Seamonkey mailnews bugs severity critical+major<br />
* extended bugzilla editbugs privs to: 3 people<br />
* updated [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Community/Bug_Watchers#Thunderbird_Components_-_Default_QA_Contact qa watchers] components and qa addresses<br />
* polled palmsync extension testers regarding Thunderbird 3<br />
* tracking/updating topcrashes<br />
* general triage<br />
<br />
===== beckley =====<br />
<br />
====== Penelope ======<br />
<br />
* Mainly been integrating latest TB sources into our Eudora/Penelope code, and having problems with the toolbar customization code which Penelope modifies quite substantially.<br />
<br />
===== KaiRo =====<br />
<br />
===== rkent =====<br />
<br />
===== rebron =====<br />
* Working on getting PR team on board.<br />
* Coming up: [https://wiki.mozilla.org/AMO:Events/Meet-up/2009-05-26 Add-ons Meet up next week]<br />
<br />
===== Tsk =====<br />
* runtest.py landed - will continue working on it.<br />
* daily triaging<br />
* looking into in-litmus? request for resolved bugs<br />
* readying for b3 testing<br />
<br />
===== andreasn =====<br />
* Last week<br />
** Account Central look&feel {{bug|489999}}<br />
** archive icons for all platforms<br />
** patches for UI b3ux blockers {{bug|488109}}, {{bug|488107}}<br />
** Activity manager stuff {{bug|476695}}<br />
<br />
* This week<br />
** Folder view look&feel<br />
** Finish Autoconfiguration layout work.<br />
** Pinstripe and Qute fixes.<br />
<br />
===== IanN =====<br />
* Next free time for coding is 23rd-31st May.<br />
* Need to chase outstanding "New bugzilla components" requests.<br />
* Still working on TNEF attachments ({{Bug|77811}}).<br />
<br />
=== Attendees ===<br />
<br />
__NOTOC__</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-05-12&diff=143763Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-05-122009-05-12T17:03:54Z<p>Beckley: /* beckley */</p>
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<div><small>[[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-05-05|last meeting]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings|index]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-05-19|next meeting &raquo;]]</small><br />
<br />
'''Thunderbird Meeting Details''' : <br />
<br />
* [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=05&day=05&hour=16&min=30&sec=0 Tuesday, May 12th, 16:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)<br />
* [[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]<br />
<br />
== Agenda ==<br />
<br />
* Who's taking minutes? --> '''bienvenu'''<br />
* [http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.<br />
<br />
=== Action Items ===<br />
<br />
==== New ====<br />
<br />
==== Open ====<br />
<br />
==== Closed ====<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b3|Thunderbird 3 Beta 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* Planned Freeze Dates ( ''All dates use time of 23:59 PST'' )<br />
** Slushy String freeze date: TBD<br />
** Slushy Code Freeze date: TBD<br />
** Firm String / Code freeze date: TBD<br />
** l10n-mozilla-1.9.1 freeze date: TBD<br />
** Target Build Ship date: TBD<br />
* dmose is release driver<br />
* gozer is build engineer<br />
<br />
* Search will be landing over the next week or two and then we'll finish up the beta.<br />
* Blockers/Wanted<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 63 (-2)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 28 (+3)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux] 25 (-2)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (b3)|blocking-thunderbird3%3F|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 0 (-1)<br />
* Fixed:<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 79 (+11)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 24 (+2)<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:Final|Thunderbird 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap]]<br />
<br />
* We're planning on adding one more beta - lots of work is getting done but the blocker list isn't going down, mostly because of the reality that landing big new features adds bugs.<br />
<br />
* Blockers<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+] 134 (+8)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=tb3needs&sharer_id=1537 TB 3 Needs]: 4 (+1)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 20 (-3)<br />
<br />
* Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.<br />
* If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don't want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.<br />
<br />
=== QA Updates ===<br />
* Doing a Linux special bug day this week<br />
* Will mail thunderbird-testers as soon as gloda-search lands<br />
* Pushing a few crashers for developers to review.<br />
* Ongoing triage work<br />
* Most mozmill blocker bugs are fixed; one is left, with tree views. We're getting closer.<br />
* We working towards doing automated bloat tests with mozmill.<br />
<br />
=== Marketing Updates ===<br />
* Press roundup: [http://news.cnet.com/8301-13880_3-10237275-68.html Send Later Extension],[http://news.cnet.com/8301-13880_3-10235339-68.html Five simple PC security tips]<br />
* Speaking with PR companies for Tb3 launch and beyond.<br />
<br />
=== IT update ===<br />
<br />
* Mountain View Trip: SUCCESS<br />
** Completed the physical move in 1 day, thanks dmoore!<br />
** Hardware upgrades completed without issues (more RAM+CPUs)<br />
** Everything that was purchased is now in place<br />
** A few little issues left to sort out by MoCo Colo hands<br />
<br />
* Coming weeks<br />
** Move the currently overly powerefull admin host to it's new, more reasonable hardware<br />
** Reimage the admin host into a new, beefy VMware host.<br />
** Bring up the production database setup online<br />
** Bring up the pysical staging hardware online<br />
<br />
* Once new hardware arrives, we can start signing our own builds.<br />
<br />
=== Documentation ===<br />
<br />
=== Roundtable ===<br />
*Autoconfig database is going to need validation - will need a validation process and some volunteers to help validate config files.<br />
*We should contact Mozilla Japan for suggestions for Japanese ISPs for autoconfig.<br />
* We should mute status meeting by default<br />
==== Status Updates ====<br />
<br />
===== davida =====<br />
<br />
* last week<br />
** work on some bugs (466644, 454829)<br />
** folder summary draft (http://ascher.ca/blog/2009/05/08/getting-insight-into-ones-own-email/)<br />
<br />
===== dmose =====<br />
* last week<br />
** got compact header working outside of core, as an extension ({{bug|480623}})<br />
** ongoing content policy & security discussions<br />
** driving work<br />
* goals for this week<br />
** finish working out details of calendar helper project with Fallen<br />
** schedule content policies security review & fill out template<br />
** 1 hour of reviews per day<br />
** land two message reader patches<br />
<br />
===== nth10sd =====<br />
<br />
* Planning for the summer.<br />
* Mozmill work - Mozmill can now simulate clicks on links in Account Central.<br />
* QA, triage, bugdays.<br />
<br />
===== Standard8 =====<br />
<br />
* Reviews and bug triage<br />
* Started putting together some plans for point releases post TB 3.<br />
* {{Bug|374578}} Finished revising content policy - just one query to go.<br />
* Restored make -C mailnews xpcshell-tests functionaliy to mailnews [http://ccgi.standard8.plus.com/blog/archives/186]<br />
* {{Bug|491654}} Fixed styles on Mail List Dialog<br />
* {{Bug|491488}} / {{Bug|491545}} fixed LDAP code to build with latest jemalloc build changes on trunk and pulled in new version to comm-central<br />
** Also means we get symbols for ldap c-sdk dlls<br />
* {{Bug|492363}} Made activity manager use non-default event icons for most of its events,<br />
* {{Bug|440794}} Send in Background - did patch to protect against shutting down whilst sending mail if quit-application-requested is not received.<br />
* {{Bug|492279}} Taking a look at revising our cookie policy to allow cookies in extensions.<br />
<br />
===== asuth =====<br />
<br />
===== bienvenu =====<br />
* Reviews and driving<br />
* Make deleting messages from cross-folder saved searches use the m_deletingRows optimization, {{bug|492149}}<br />
* Sped up loading smart folders by not restoring non-existent selection in MoveThread {{bug|466048}}<br />
* Fixed file size on return receipt so we work with SMTP servers that don't allow 0 Size {{bug|462866}}<br />
* Only compact imap folder when entering folder if we're over the expunge threshold, {{bug|490934}}<br />
* Worked on making commands apply to messages in collapsed threads.<br />
* Working with a contributer on IMAP COMPRESS support<br />
<br />
===== gozer =====<br />
<br />
Recovered from some evil bug<br />
<br />
Will have to close tree Thursday the 12th around Noon for some maintenance.<br />
<br />
* Build<br />
** New, re-imaged OS X Tiger and Leopard builders<br />
** Buildbot server upgraded to 0.7.10 in production<br />
** More buildbot work in progress<br />
*** Upgrading buildbot clients to 0.7.10<br />
*** Moving config to CC*Factory<br />
*** Merging unittest and production masters<br />
<br />
* Web<br />
** SpreadThunderbird Drupal upgrade<br />
<br />
* Infrastructure<br />
** Colo move completed<br />
*** Upgrades: More RAM and CPUs<br />
*** Upgrades: Firmware, BIOS and the like<br />
*** New production blades<br />
** Upcoming:<br />
*** Configuration management cleanup<br />
*** Production database setup<br />
*** Staging setup<br />
*** Plan for upcoming projects<br />
<br />
===== clarkbw =====<br />
<br />
===== wsmwk =====<br />
* extended bugzilla editbugs privs to: 1 person<br />
* updated [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Community/Bug_Watchers#Thunderbird_Components_-_Default_QA_Contact QA watchers] with changed components and descriptions<br />
* tracking/updating topcrashes - still<br />
* triaging memory bugs - still<br />
* triaging profile dataloss bugs - still<br />
* engaged Jay Moran to help with profiling - resulting in fix of {{Bug|466048}} for a great performance win (Thunderbird freezes/slow when selecting threaded Saved Search/Virtual Folder)<br />
<br />
===== beckley =====<br />
<br />
====== Penelope ======<br />
<br />
* Have auto-updating working for Eudora on all 3 platforms now, and Matt is working on getting our production server set up to handle updates<br />
* Patch to improve logging of the update service was accepted - {{bug|491436}}<br />
* Will be making a new Eudora/Penelope beta with updates and latest TB sources, which may go out before TB 3b3 due to issues some Eudora 8b6 users are seeing<br />
* Talked with nthomas about debug symbols and some warnings that crept in to Eudora's manifest files, and fixed those with the latest version of symbolstore.py<br />
<br />
===== KaiRo =====<br />
* Lots of work on [http://home.kairo.at/blog/2009-05/seamonkey_has_new_build_machines new SeaMonkey buildbot], enabling generic machine pools per platform and paving the way for release automation. Thunderbird will be able to heavily rip off those configs and share generic classes in the future.<br />
<br />
===== rkent =====<br />
<br />
===== rebron =====<br />
* Support: a few more interviews and finishing up contract for GS.<br />
* TB3 end game: updated site map for launch, drafting web site updates, reviewer's guide.<br />
<br />
===== Tsk =====<br />
* Triagge work<br />
* {{bug |482966}} Found regression window<br />
* Thought about FireDrills and post beta.<br />
* Organized bugday<br />
<br />
===== andreasn =====<br />
<br />
* Last week<br />
** blogged about Linux theme changes. Good feedback.<br />
** Ill most of the week :(<br />
<br />
* This week<br />
** Built TB from source!<br />
** finish the activity manager icons (with patches)<br />
** archive icons for all platforms (Linux ready, other platforms easy)<br />
** Autoconfiguration layout work.<br />
<br />
===== sid0 =====<br />
<br />
* Fixed a few simple blockers: {{bug|462229}}, {{bug|460036}}, {{bug|470474}}<br />
* Submitted a patch to {{bug|467116}}<br />
* Rough patch in {{bug|466227}}, and investigated + working on {{bug|482966}}<br />
<br />
=== Attendees ===<br />
davida, dmose, bienvenu, ludovic, standard8, rafael, gozer, asuth, sid0, nth10sd, kairo, clarkbw, rkent, jenzed, andreas, beckley<br />
__NOTOC__</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-05-05&diff=143762Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-05-052009-05-12T17:03:16Z<p>Beckley: /* beckley */</p>
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<div><small>[[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-04-21|last meeting]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings|index]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-05-12|next meeting &raquo;]]</small><br />
<br />
'''Thunderbird Meeting Details''' : <br />
<br />
* [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=05&day=05&hour=16&min=30&sec=0 Tuesday, May 5th, 16:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)<br />
* [[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]<br />
<br />
== Agenda ==<br />
<br />
* Who's taking minutes? --> '''Standard8'''<br />
* [http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.<br />
<br />
=== Action Items ===<br />
<br />
==== New ====<br />
<br />
==== Open ====<br />
<br />
==== Closed ====<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b3|Thunderbird 3 Beta 3]] ===<br />
<br />
<br />
* Important piece to land is new search functionality {{Bug|474701}} - aiming to land before or on next Tuesday<br />
* Will therefore wait until next week before making a decision about dates.<br />
* Looking to ship beta 3 in small number of weeks.<br />
<br />
* Planned Freeze Dates ( ''All dates use time of 23:59 PST'' )<br />
** Slushy String freeze date: TBD<br />
** Slushy Code Freeze date: TBD<br />
** Firm String / Code freeze date: TBD<br />
** l10n-mozilla-1.9.1 freeze date: TBD<br />
** Target Build Ship date: TBD<br />
* dmose is release driver<br />
* gozer is build engineer<br />
<br />
* Blockers/Wanted<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 65 (+4)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 25 (-2)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux] 27 (-1)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (b3)|blocking-thunderbird3%3F|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 0 (-1)<br />
* Fixed:<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 68 (+8)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 22 (+3)<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:Final|Thunderbird 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap]]<br />
* Blockers<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+] 126 (+12)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=tb3needs&sharer_id=1537 TB 3 Needs]: 3 (0)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 33 (+14)<br />
<br />
* Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.<br />
* If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don't want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.<br />
<br />
=== QA Updates ===<br />
* when confirming bugs in component=General, please move but to better component (otherwise General because a dumping ground)<br />
* Had a Gmail special Bugday last week - with very low participation. Due probably that 1st of May was a day off in most parts of the world.<br />
** Gmail will probably be carried over to this week<br />
* Waiting on schedule updates to reorganize testing<br />
* Wondering on the best method to get developer's attention on crashers<br />
** Use the current method of nominating top crashes with the blocking flag.<br />
<br />
=== Marketing Updates ===<br />
* Interviewing candidates for support.<br />
* Evaluating PR companies. Should have a decision within the next couple weeks.<br />
* Press mentions: [http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/04/13/beta-doesn039t-always-mean-better.html Beta doesn't always mean better]; [http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090430/BUSINESS/304309980/-1/XML15 Email software needs a rewrite]; [http://download.cnet.com/8301-2007_4-10229060-12.html Zimbra 1.0 Desktop Released]<br />
<br />
=== IT update ===<br />
<br />
=== Documentation ===<br />
<br />
* talking to devs about how to provide "New in TB3" info (larger process enhancements after TB3)<br />
* talking to community about forming an advisory committee / getting community involvement with docs<br />
* housecleaning and updating "infrastructure" docs<br />
<br />
=== Roundtable ===<br />
<br />
==== Status Updates ====<br />
<br />
===== davida =====<br />
<br />
* good progress on bug 454829 and bug 466644 <br />
* working on poptarts this week<br />
<br />
===== dmose =====<br />
* last week<br />
** participated in MoCo onsite<br />
*** very productive sessions, esp. module owners && new UX keywords<br />
*** unstuck a few things; recruited a few volunteers to look at tb3 blockers<br />
** worked on slimming down daily triage tasks<br />
** driving work<br />
<br />
* goals for this week<br />
** close out compact message header discussion<br />
** security review planning<br />
** calendar organizational work<br />
** get back on the 1-hour-a-day code review track<br />
<br />
===== nth10sd =====<br />
<br />
* Lots of bug triaging, JS assertions in mail.<br />
<br />
===== Standard8 =====<br />
<br />
* Reviews & Triage<br />
* Few days holiday.<br />
* Attended the test day. Fixed crash {{bug|489779}} that was found during the day (send in background/later combination). <br />
* Activity Manager<br />
** {{Bug|489588}} Hooked up activity manager events and processes to the status bar.<br />
* Send in background {{Bug|440794}}<br />
** Did a couple of patches reworking the notification system, so that hopefully will have something sane to be able to hook up automatic retry etc. Still needs some work to refine it.<br />
** Almost have shutdown protection working for the case where we don't get quit-application-requested.<br />
* Content Policy<br />
** {{Bug|480674}} Formulate content policy for Audio/Video tags<br />
*** Existing policy is adequate, except need to reword "Remote Images" to "Remote Content" - supplied patch for the rewording.<br />
** What's new page/non-message pane content display: {{Bug|374578}}/{{Bug|466527}} Revised the patch for review.<br />
* Leaks<br />
** We're still not (quite) in a position to tidy up our leak output in mailnews (due to {{bug|384339}}, then {{bug|438922}} can be checked in).<br />
** However, took a brief look at leaks in xpcshell unit tests - Fixed some leaks due to the tests themselves {{bug|490468}}, and fixed one in address book import {{bug|490602}}.<br />
** Remaining leaks look minor or possible problems with how the tests tidy themselves up (or don't). Probably will schedule 1 day post b3 to take another look at resolving these.<br />
* Old patch submission (these had been sitting in my mq for a while):<br />
** {{bug|490972}} Change "string" attributes to "ACString" in nsIImapUrl which should save on copies/allocations (hence help perf).<br />
** {{Bug|490969}} Some random header include tidy up to reduce size of rebuilds when idl/headers change.<br />
<br />
Next week<br />
* Beta 3 blockers!<br />
<br />
===== asuth =====<br />
<br />
===== bienvenu =====<br />
* Reviews and driving<br />
* Autoconfig landed (english only)<br />
* Smart Folders landed<br />
* Archive folder granularity landed<br />
* Fixed blanking out of message pane when deleting message from smart folder, {{bug|474725}}<br />
* make copy service return immediately on attempts to move/copy a msg to and from the same folder, and fix archive not to do that {{bug|490990}}<br />
* Fixed imap download when going offline {{bug|471695}}<br />
* Fixed hang with quick search when msg threading ancestry hierarchy has loops, {{bug|489711}}<br />
* Wrote patch for XLIST support {{bug|476260}}<br />
<br />
===== gozer =====<br />
<br />
===== clarkbw =====<br />
<br />
* Triage & looking at blocking bugs<br />
<br />
===== wsmwk =====<br />
* triaged *sync* bugs<br />
* triaging memory bugs<br />
* triaging double click<br />
* triaged drag and drop<br />
* helped setup bugday<br />
* poked on litmus performance<br />
<br />
===== beckley =====<br />
<br />
====== Penelope ======<br />
<br />
* Got updates working for Eudora on an internal web server, and will have updates available on a production server for the next beta release<br />
* Submitted a patch to improve logging of the update service {{bug|491436}}<br />
<br />
===== KaiRo =====<br />
<br />
===== rkent =====<br />
I return from my trip to Azerbaijan on Thursday night, but with 12 hours of jet lag and life to catch up with, it may be awhile before I return to normal. I've been working on adding a post-bayes filter context under bug 198100, which will allow filtering on junk characteristics. At the same time I'm hoping to provide a body filter capability to locally-stored IMAP in the same patch. This is the last major feature that I hope to land before b3. As I look at my assign list, I still have a number of minor non-blocking bugs in areas that I work in that I want to try to land in TB3. But I will also want to mix in some b3 blockers. Anyone who is familiar with my capabilities should feel free to suggest specific blockers for me to investigate.<br />
<br />
===== rebron =====<br />
Last week<br />
* Moco onsite. Coordinating with Mozilla marketing and International teams.<br />
<br />
This week<br />
* Interviews, PR work. <br />
* GetSatisfaction contract.<br />
<br />
===== Tsk =====<br />
* done:<br />
** Off last Thursday and Friday<br />
** Organized bugday<br />
<br />
* This week<br />
** Try to organize testing with new schedule<br />
** Try to finnish mozmill bloat launcher<br />
<br />
===== andreasn =====<br />
<br />
* last week (and the week before):<br />
** vista, mac and linux icons for activity manager<br />
** vista theme work<br />
** mac theme work<br />
** hunted down the big Swedish ISP e-mail data for autoconfiguration<br />
** Linux account central<br />
<br />
* this week:<br />
** finish the activity manager icons<br />
** blog about theme changes on Linux<br />
** archive icons for all platforms<br />
** more vista and xp theme work<br />
** more pinstripe work<br />
<br />
=== Attendees ===<br />
<br />
davida, dmose, standard8, bienvenu, asuth, clarkbw, wsmwk, beckley, KaiRo, rebron, Tsk, andreasn<br />
<br />
__NOTOC__</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-05-05&diff=143753Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-05-052009-05-12T16:54:31Z<p>Beckley: /* beckley */</p>
<hr />
<div><small>[[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-04-21|last meeting]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings|index]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-05-12|next meeting &raquo;]]</small><br />
<br />
'''Thunderbird Meeting Details''' : <br />
<br />
* [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=05&day=05&hour=16&min=30&sec=0 Tuesday, May 5th, 16:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)<br />
* [[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]<br />
<br />
== Agenda ==<br />
<br />
* Who's taking minutes? --> '''Standard8'''<br />
* [http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.<br />
<br />
=== Action Items ===<br />
<br />
==== New ====<br />
<br />
==== Open ====<br />
<br />
==== Closed ====<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b3|Thunderbird 3 Beta 3]] ===<br />
<br />
<br />
* Important piece to land is new search functionality {{Bug|474701}} - aiming to land before or on next Tuesday<br />
* Will therefore wait until next week before making a decision about dates.<br />
* Looking to ship beta 3 in small number of weeks.<br />
<br />
* Planned Freeze Dates ( ''All dates use time of 23:59 PST'' )<br />
** Slushy String freeze date: TBD<br />
** Slushy Code Freeze date: TBD<br />
** Firm String / Code freeze date: TBD<br />
** l10n-mozilla-1.9.1 freeze date: TBD<br />
** Target Build Ship date: TBD<br />
* dmose is release driver<br />
* gozer is build engineer<br />
<br />
* Blockers/Wanted<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 65 (+4)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 25 (-2)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux] 27 (-1)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (b3)|blocking-thunderbird3%3F|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 0 (-1)<br />
* Fixed:<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 68 (+8)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 22 (+3)<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:Final|Thunderbird 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap]]<br />
* Blockers<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+] 126 (+12)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=tb3needs&sharer_id=1537 TB 3 Needs]: 3 (0)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 33 (+14)<br />
<br />
* Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.<br />
* If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don't want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.<br />
<br />
=== QA Updates ===<br />
* when confirming bugs in component=General, please move but to better component (otherwise General because a dumping ground)<br />
* Had a Gmail special Bugday last week - with very low participation. Due probably that 1st of May was a day off in most parts of the world.<br />
** Gmail will probably be carried over to this week<br />
* Waiting on schedule updates to reorganize testing<br />
* Wondering on the best method to get developer's attention on crashers<br />
** Use the current method of nominating top crashes with the blocking flag.<br />
<br />
=== Marketing Updates ===<br />
* Interviewing candidates for support.<br />
* Evaluating PR companies. Should have a decision within the next couple weeks.<br />
* Press mentions: [http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/04/13/beta-doesn039t-always-mean-better.html Beta doesn't always mean better]; [http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090430/BUSINESS/304309980/-1/XML15 Email software needs a rewrite]; [http://download.cnet.com/8301-2007_4-10229060-12.html Zimbra 1.0 Desktop Released]<br />
<br />
=== IT update ===<br />
<br />
=== Documentation ===<br />
<br />
* talking to devs about how to provide "New in TB3" info (larger process enhancements after TB3)<br />
* talking to community about forming an advisory committee / getting community involvement with docs<br />
* housecleaning and updating "infrastructure" docs<br />
<br />
=== Roundtable ===<br />
<br />
==== Status Updates ====<br />
<br />
===== davida =====<br />
<br />
* good progress on bug 454829 and bug 466644 <br />
* working on poptarts this week<br />
<br />
===== dmose =====<br />
* last week<br />
** participated in MoCo onsite<br />
*** very productive sessions, esp. module owners && new UX keywords<br />
*** unstuck a few things; recruited a few volunteers to look at tb3 blockers<br />
** worked on slimming down daily triage tasks<br />
** driving work<br />
<br />
* goals for this week<br />
** close out compact message header discussion<br />
** security review planning<br />
** calendar organizational work<br />
** get back on the 1-hour-a-day code review track<br />
<br />
===== nth10sd =====<br />
<br />
* Lots of bug triaging, JS assertions in mail.<br />
<br />
===== Standard8 =====<br />
<br />
* Reviews & Triage<br />
* Few days holiday.<br />
* Attended the test day. Fixed crash {{bug|489779}} that was found during the day (send in background/later combination). <br />
* Activity Manager<br />
** {{Bug|489588}} Hooked up activity manager events and processes to the status bar.<br />
* Send in background {{Bug|440794}}<br />
** Did a couple of patches reworking the notification system, so that hopefully will have something sane to be able to hook up automatic retry etc. Still needs some work to refine it.<br />
** Almost have shutdown protection working for the case where we don't get quit-application-requested.<br />
* Content Policy<br />
** {{Bug|480674}} Formulate content policy for Audio/Video tags<br />
*** Existing policy is adequate, except need to reword "Remote Images" to "Remote Content" - supplied patch for the rewording.<br />
** What's new page/non-message pane content display: {{Bug|374578}}/{{Bug|466527}} Revised the patch for review.<br />
* Leaks<br />
** We're still not (quite) in a position to tidy up our leak output in mailnews (due to {{bug|384339}}, then {{bug|438922}} can be checked in).<br />
** However, took a brief look at leaks in xpcshell unit tests - Fixed some leaks due to the tests themselves {{bug|490468}}, and fixed one in address book import {{bug|490602}}.<br />
** Remaining leaks look minor or possible problems with how the tests tidy themselves up (or don't). Probably will schedule 1 day post b3 to take another look at resolving these.<br />
* Old patch submission (these had been sitting in my mq for a while):<br />
** {{bug|490972}} Change "string" attributes to "ACString" in nsIImapUrl which should save on copies/allocations (hence help perf).<br />
** {{Bug|490969}} Some random header include tidy up to reduce size of rebuilds when idl/headers change.<br />
<br />
Next week<br />
* Beta 3 blockers!<br />
<br />
===== asuth =====<br />
<br />
===== bienvenu =====<br />
* Reviews and driving<br />
* Autoconfig landed (english only)<br />
* Smart Folders landed<br />
* Archive folder granularity landed<br />
* Fixed blanking out of message pane when deleting message from smart folder, {{bug|474725}}<br />
* make copy service return immediately on attempts to move/copy a msg to and from the same folder, and fix archive not to do that {{bug|490990}}<br />
* Fixed imap download when going offline {{bug|471695}}<br />
* Fixed hang with quick search when msg threading ancestry hierarchy has loops, {{bug|489711}}<br />
* Wrote patch for XLIST support {{bug|476260}}<br />
<br />
===== gozer =====<br />
<br />
===== clarkbw =====<br />
<br />
* Triage & looking at blocking bugs<br />
<br />
===== wsmwk =====<br />
* triaged *sync* bugs<br />
* triaging memory bugs<br />
* triaging double click<br />
* triaged drag and drop<br />
* helped setup bugday<br />
* poked on litmus performance<br />
<br />
===== beckley =====<br />
<br />
====== Penelope ======<br />
<br />
* Have auto-updating working for Eudora on all 3 platforms now, and Matt is working on getting our production server set up to handle updates<br />
<br />
* Patch to improve logging of the update service was accepted - {{bug|491436}}<br />
<br />
* Will be making a new Eudora/Penelope beta with updates and latest TB sources, which may go out before TB 3b3 due to issues some Eudora 8b6 users are seeing<br />
<br />
* Talked with nthomas about debug symbols and some warnings that crept in to Eudora's manifest files, and fixed those with the latest version of symbolstore.py<br />
<br />
===== KaiRo =====<br />
<br />
===== rkent =====<br />
I return from my trip to Azerbaijan on Thursday night, but with 12 hours of jet lag and life to catch up with, it may be awhile before I return to normal. I've been working on adding a post-bayes filter context under bug 198100, which will allow filtering on junk characteristics. At the same time I'm hoping to provide a body filter capability to locally-stored IMAP in the same patch. This is the last major feature that I hope to land before b3. As I look at my assign list, I still have a number of minor non-blocking bugs in areas that I work in that I want to try to land in TB3. But I will also want to mix in some b3 blockers. Anyone who is familiar with my capabilities should feel free to suggest specific blockers for me to investigate.<br />
<br />
===== rebron =====<br />
Last week<br />
* Moco onsite. Coordinating with Mozilla marketing and International teams.<br />
<br />
This week<br />
* Interviews, PR work. <br />
* GetSatisfaction contract.<br />
<br />
===== Tsk =====<br />
* done:<br />
** Off last Thursday and Friday<br />
** Organized bugday<br />
<br />
* This week<br />
** Try to organize testing with new schedule<br />
** Try to finnish mozmill bloat launcher<br />
<br />
===== andreasn =====<br />
<br />
* last week (and the week before):<br />
** vista, mac and linux icons for activity manager<br />
** vista theme work<br />
** mac theme work<br />
** hunted down the big Swedish ISP e-mail data for autoconfiguration<br />
** Linux account central<br />
<br />
* this week:<br />
** finish the activity manager icons<br />
** blog about theme changes on Linux<br />
** archive icons for all platforms<br />
** more vista and xp theme work<br />
** more pinstripe work<br />
<br />
=== Attendees ===<br />
<br />
davida, dmose, standard8, bienvenu, asuth, clarkbw, wsmwk, beckley, KaiRo, rebron, Tsk, andreasn<br />
<br />
__NOTOC__</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-05-05&diff=143752Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-05-052009-05-12T16:54:07Z<p>Beckley: /* beckley */</p>
<hr />
<div><small>[[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-04-21|last meeting]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings|index]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-05-12|next meeting &raquo;]]</small><br />
<br />
'''Thunderbird Meeting Details''' : <br />
<br />
* [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=05&day=05&hour=16&min=30&sec=0 Tuesday, May 5th, 16:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)<br />
* [[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]<br />
<br />
== Agenda ==<br />
<br />
* Who's taking minutes? --> '''Standard8'''<br />
* [http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.<br />
<br />
=== Action Items ===<br />
<br />
==== New ====<br />
<br />
==== Open ====<br />
<br />
==== Closed ====<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b3|Thunderbird 3 Beta 3]] ===<br />
<br />
<br />
* Important piece to land is new search functionality {{Bug|474701}} - aiming to land before or on next Tuesday<br />
* Will therefore wait until next week before making a decision about dates.<br />
* Looking to ship beta 3 in small number of weeks.<br />
<br />
* Planned Freeze Dates ( ''All dates use time of 23:59 PST'' )<br />
** Slushy String freeze date: TBD<br />
** Slushy Code Freeze date: TBD<br />
** Firm String / Code freeze date: TBD<br />
** l10n-mozilla-1.9.1 freeze date: TBD<br />
** Target Build Ship date: TBD<br />
* dmose is release driver<br />
* gozer is build engineer<br />
<br />
* Blockers/Wanted<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 65 (+4)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 25 (-2)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux] 27 (-1)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (b3)|blocking-thunderbird3%3F|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 0 (-1)<br />
* Fixed:<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 68 (+8)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 22 (+3)<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:Final|Thunderbird 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap]]<br />
* Blockers<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+] 126 (+12)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=tb3needs&sharer_id=1537 TB 3 Needs]: 3 (0)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 33 (+14)<br />
<br />
* Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.<br />
* If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don't want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.<br />
<br />
=== QA Updates ===<br />
* when confirming bugs in component=General, please move but to better component (otherwise General because a dumping ground)<br />
* Had a Gmail special Bugday last week - with very low participation. Due probably that 1st of May was a day off in most parts of the world.<br />
** Gmail will probably be carried over to this week<br />
* Waiting on schedule updates to reorganize testing<br />
* Wondering on the best method to get developer's attention on crashers<br />
** Use the current method of nominating top crashes with the blocking flag.<br />
<br />
=== Marketing Updates ===<br />
* Interviewing candidates for support.<br />
* Evaluating PR companies. Should have a decision within the next couple weeks.<br />
* Press mentions: [http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/04/13/beta-doesn039t-always-mean-better.html Beta doesn't always mean better]; [http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090430/BUSINESS/304309980/-1/XML15 Email software needs a rewrite]; [http://download.cnet.com/8301-2007_4-10229060-12.html Zimbra 1.0 Desktop Released]<br />
<br />
=== IT update ===<br />
<br />
=== Documentation ===<br />
<br />
* talking to devs about how to provide "New in TB3" info (larger process enhancements after TB3)<br />
* talking to community about forming an advisory committee / getting community involvement with docs<br />
* housecleaning and updating "infrastructure" docs<br />
<br />
=== Roundtable ===<br />
<br />
==== Status Updates ====<br />
<br />
===== davida =====<br />
<br />
* good progress on bug 454829 and bug 466644 <br />
* working on poptarts this week<br />
<br />
===== dmose =====<br />
* last week<br />
** participated in MoCo onsite<br />
*** very productive sessions, esp. module owners && new UX keywords<br />
*** unstuck a few things; recruited a few volunteers to look at tb3 blockers<br />
** worked on slimming down daily triage tasks<br />
** driving work<br />
<br />
* goals for this week<br />
** close out compact message header discussion<br />
** security review planning<br />
** calendar organizational work<br />
** get back on the 1-hour-a-day code review track<br />
<br />
===== nth10sd =====<br />
<br />
* Lots of bug triaging, JS assertions in mail.<br />
<br />
===== Standard8 =====<br />
<br />
* Reviews & Triage<br />
* Few days holiday.<br />
* Attended the test day. Fixed crash {{bug|489779}} that was found during the day (send in background/later combination). <br />
* Activity Manager<br />
** {{Bug|489588}} Hooked up activity manager events and processes to the status bar.<br />
* Send in background {{Bug|440794}}<br />
** Did a couple of patches reworking the notification system, so that hopefully will have something sane to be able to hook up automatic retry etc. Still needs some work to refine it.<br />
** Almost have shutdown protection working for the case where we don't get quit-application-requested.<br />
* Content Policy<br />
** {{Bug|480674}} Formulate content policy for Audio/Video tags<br />
*** Existing policy is adequate, except need to reword "Remote Images" to "Remote Content" - supplied patch for the rewording.<br />
** What's new page/non-message pane content display: {{Bug|374578}}/{{Bug|466527}} Revised the patch for review.<br />
* Leaks<br />
** We're still not (quite) in a position to tidy up our leak output in mailnews (due to {{bug|384339}}, then {{bug|438922}} can be checked in).<br />
** However, took a brief look at leaks in xpcshell unit tests - Fixed some leaks due to the tests themselves {{bug|490468}}, and fixed one in address book import {{bug|490602}}.<br />
** Remaining leaks look minor or possible problems with how the tests tidy themselves up (or don't). Probably will schedule 1 day post b3 to take another look at resolving these.<br />
* Old patch submission (these had been sitting in my mq for a while):<br />
** {{bug|490972}} Change "string" attributes to "ACString" in nsIImapUrl which should save on copies/allocations (hence help perf).<br />
** {{Bug|490969}} Some random header include tidy up to reduce size of rebuilds when idl/headers change.<br />
<br />
Next week<br />
* Beta 3 blockers!<br />
<br />
===== asuth =====<br />
<br />
===== bienvenu =====<br />
* Reviews and driving<br />
* Autoconfig landed (english only)<br />
* Smart Folders landed<br />
* Archive folder granularity landed<br />
* Fixed blanking out of message pane when deleting message from smart folder, {{bug|474725}}<br />
* make copy service return immediately on attempts to move/copy a msg to and from the same folder, and fix archive not to do that {{bug|490990}}<br />
* Fixed imap download when going offline {{bug|471695}}<br />
* Fixed hang with quick search when msg threading ancestry hierarchy has loops, {{bug|489711}}<br />
* Wrote patch for XLIST support {{bug|476260}}<br />
<br />
===== gozer =====<br />
<br />
===== clarkbw =====<br />
<br />
* Triage & looking at blocking bugs<br />
<br />
===== wsmwk =====<br />
* triaged *sync* bugs<br />
* triaging memory bugs<br />
* triaging double click<br />
* triaged drag and drop<br />
* helped setup bugday<br />
* poked on litmus performance<br />
<br />
===== beckley =====<br />
<br />
====== Penelope ======<br />
<br />
* Have auto-updating working for Eudora on all 3 platforms now, and Matt is working on getting our production server set up to handle updates<br />
<br />
* Patch to improve logging of the update service was accepted - {{bug|491436}}<br />
<br />
* Will be making a new Eudora/Penelope beta with updates and latest TB sources, which may go out before TB 3b3 due to issues some EUdora 8b6 users are seeing<br />
<br />
* Talked with nthomas about debug symbols and some warnings that crept in to Eudora's manifest files, and fixed those with the latest version of symbolstore.py<br />
<br />
===== KaiRo =====<br />
<br />
===== rkent =====<br />
I return from my trip to Azerbaijan on Thursday night, but with 12 hours of jet lag and life to catch up with, it may be awhile before I return to normal. I've been working on adding a post-bayes filter context under bug 198100, which will allow filtering on junk characteristics. At the same time I'm hoping to provide a body filter capability to locally-stored IMAP in the same patch. This is the last major feature that I hope to land before b3. As I look at my assign list, I still have a number of minor non-blocking bugs in areas that I work in that I want to try to land in TB3. But I will also want to mix in some b3 blockers. Anyone who is familiar with my capabilities should feel free to suggest specific blockers for me to investigate.<br />
<br />
===== rebron =====<br />
Last week<br />
* Moco onsite. Coordinating with Mozilla marketing and International teams.<br />
<br />
This week<br />
* Interviews, PR work. <br />
* GetSatisfaction contract.<br />
<br />
===== Tsk =====<br />
* done:<br />
** Off last Thursday and Friday<br />
** Organized bugday<br />
<br />
* This week<br />
** Try to organize testing with new schedule<br />
** Try to finnish mozmill bloat launcher<br />
<br />
===== andreasn =====<br />
<br />
* last week (and the week before):<br />
** vista, mac and linux icons for activity manager<br />
** vista theme work<br />
** mac theme work<br />
** hunted down the big Swedish ISP e-mail data for autoconfiguration<br />
** Linux account central<br />
<br />
* this week:<br />
** finish the activity manager icons<br />
** blog about theme changes on Linux<br />
** archive icons for all platforms<br />
** more vista and xp theme work<br />
** more pinstripe work<br />
<br />
=== Attendees ===<br />
<br />
davida, dmose, standard8, bienvenu, asuth, clarkbw, wsmwk, beckley, KaiRo, rebron, Tsk, andreasn<br />
<br />
__NOTOC__</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-05-05&diff=142544Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-05-052009-05-05T16:30:39Z<p>Beckley: /* beckley */</p>
<hr />
<div><small>[[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-04-21|last meeting]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings|index]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-05-12|next meeting &raquo;]]</small><br />
<br />
'''Thunderbird Meeting Details''' : <br />
<br />
* [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=05&day=05&hour=16&min=30&sec=0 Tuesday, May 5th, 16:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)<br />
* [[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]<br />
<br />
== Agenda ==<br />
<br />
* Who's taking minutes? --> '''Standard8'''<br />
* [http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.<br />
<br />
=== Action Items ===<br />
<br />
==== New ====<br />
<br />
==== Open ====<br />
<br />
==== Closed ====<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b3|Thunderbird 3 Beta 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* Planned Freeze Dates ( ''All dates use time of 23:59 PST'' )<br />
** Slushy String freeze date: TBD<br />
** Slushy Code Freeze date: TBD<br />
** Firm String / Code freeze date: TBD<br />
** l10n-mozilla-1.9.1 freeze date: TBD<br />
** Target Build Ship date: TBD<br />
* dmose is release driver<br />
* gozer is build engineer<br />
<br />
* Blockers/Wanted<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 65 (+4)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 25 (-2)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux] 27 (-1)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (b3)|blocking-thunderbird3%3F|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 0 (-1)<br />
* Fixed:<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 68 (+8)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 22 (+3)<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:Final|Thunderbird 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap]]<br />
* Blockers<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+] 126 (+12)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=tb3needs&sharer_id=1537 TB 3 Needs]: 3 (0)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 33 (+14)<br />
<br />
* Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.<br />
* If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don't want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.<br />
<br />
=== QA Updates ===<br />
* when confirming bugs in component=General, please move but to better component (otherwise General because a dumping ground)<br />
* Had a Gmail special Bugday last week - with very low participation. Due probably that 1st of May was a day off in most parts of the world.<br />
** Gmail will probably be carried over to this week<br />
* Waiting on schedule updates to reorganize testing<br />
* Wondering on the best method to get developer's attention on crashers<br />
<br />
=== Marketing Updates ===<br />
* Interviewing candidates for support.<br />
* Evaluating PR companies. Should have a decision within the next couple weeks.<br />
* Press mentions: [http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/04/13/beta-doesn039t-always-mean-better.html Beta doesn't always mean better]; [http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090430/BUSINESS/304309980/-1/XML15 Email software needs a rewrite]; [http://download.cnet.com/8301-2007_4-10229060-12.html Zimbra 1.0 Desktop Released]<br />
<br />
=== IT update ===<br />
<br />
=== Documentation ===<br />
<br />
=== Roundtable ===<br />
<br />
==== Status Updates ====<br />
<br />
===== davida =====<br />
<br />
===== dmose =====<br />
* last week<br />
** participated in MoCo onsite<br />
*** very productive sessions, esp. module owners && new UX keywords<br />
*** unstuck a few things; recruited a few volunteers to look at tb3 blockers<br />
** worked on slimming down daily triage tasks<br />
** driving work<br />
<br />
* goals for this week<br />
** security review planning<br />
** calendar organizational work<br />
** get back on the 1-hour-a-day code review track<br />
<br />
===== nth10sd =====<br />
<br />
* Lots of bug triaging, JS assertions in mail.<br />
<br />
===== Standard8 =====<br />
<br />
* Reviews & Triage<br />
* Few days holiday.<br />
* Attended the test day. Fixed crash {{bug|489779}} that was found during the day (send in background/later combination). <br />
* Activity Manager<br />
** {{Bug|489588}} Hooked up activity manager events and processes to the status bar.<br />
* Send in background {{Bug|440794}}<br />
** Did a couple of patches reworking the notification system, so that hopefully will have something sane to be able to hook up automatic retry etc. Still needs some work to refine it.<br />
** Almost have shutdown protection working for the case where we don't get quit-application-requested.<br />
* Content Policy<br />
** {{Bug|480674}} Formulate content policy for Audio/Video tags<br />
*** Existing policy is adequate, except need to reword "Remote Images" to "Remote Content" - supplied patch for the rewording.<br />
** What's new page/non-message pane content display: {{Bug|374578}}/{{Bug|466527}} Revised the patch for review.<br />
* Leaks<br />
** We're still not (quite) in a position to tidy up our leak output in mailnews (due to {{bug|384339}}, then {{bug|438922}} can be checked in).<br />
** However, took a brief look at leaks in xpcshell unit tests - Fixed some leaks due to the tests themselves {{bug|490468}}, and fixed one in address book import {{bug|490602}}.<br />
** Remaining leaks look minor or possible problems with how the tests tidy themselves up (or don't). Probably will schedule 1 day post b3 to take another look at resolving these.<br />
* Old patch submission (these had been sitting in my mq for a while):<br />
** {{bug|490972}} Change "string" attributes to "ACString" in nsIImapUrl which should save on copies/allocations (hence help perf).<br />
** {{Bug|490969}} Some random header include tidy up to reduce size of rebuilds when idl/headers change.<br />
<br />
Next week<br />
* Beta 3 blockers!<br />
<br />
===== asuth =====<br />
<br />
===== bienvenu =====<br />
<br />
===== gozer =====<br />
<br />
===== clarkbw =====<br />
<br />
===== wsmwk =====<br />
* triaged *sync* bugs<br />
* triaging memory bugs<br />
* triaging double click<br />
* triaged drag and drop<br />
* helped setup bugday<br />
* poked on litmus performance<br />
<br />
===== beckley =====<br />
<br />
====== Penelope ======<br />
<br />
* Got updates working for Eudora on an internal web server, and will have updates available on a production server for the next beta release<br />
* Submitted a patch to improve logging of the update service {{bug|491436}}<br />
<br />
===== KaiRo =====<br />
<br />
===== rkent =====<br />
I return from my trip to Azerbaijan on Thursday night, but with 12 hours of jet lag and life to catch up with, it may be awhile before I return to normal. I've been working on adding a post-bayes filter context under bug 198100, which will allow filtering on junk characteristics. At the same time I'm hoping to provide a body filter capability to locally-stored IMAP in the same patch. This is the last major feature that I hope to land before b3. As I look at my assign list, I still have a number of minor non-blocking bugs in areas that I work in that I want to try to land in TB3. But I will also want to mix in some b3 blockers. Anyone who is familiar with my capabilities should feel free to suggest specific blockers for me to investigate.<br />
<br />
===== rebron =====<br />
Last week<br />
* Moco onsite. Coordinating with Mozilla marketing and International teams.<br />
<br />
This week<br />
* Interviews, PR work. <br />
* GetSatisfaction contract.<br />
<br />
===== Tsk =====<br />
* done:<br />
** Off last Thursday and Friday<br />
** Organized bugday<br />
<br />
* This week<br />
** Try to organize testing with new schedule<br />
** Try to finnish mozmill bloat launcher<br />
<br />
===== andreasn =====<br />
<br />
* last week (and the week before):<br />
** vista, mac and linux icons for activity manager<br />
** vista theme work<br />
** mac theme work<br />
** hunted down the big Swedish ISP e-mail data for autoconfiguration<br />
** Linux account central<br />
<br />
* this week:<br />
** finish the activity manager icons<br />
** blog about theme changes on Linux<br />
** archive icons for all platforms<br />
** more vista and xp theme work<br />
** more pinstripe work<br />
<br />
=== Attendees ===<br />
<br />
__NOTOC__</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo&diff=140934Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo2009-04-21T17:22:39Z<p>Beckley: Clarification for how to get in to conference with new number</p>
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<div>'''Telephone Info'''<br />
* 1-800-707-2533 (US)<br />
** PIN: 369<br />
** Conf# 4400<br />
* 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 (US/INTL)<br />
* 1-778-785-1540 (Canada)<br />
** Extension: 92<br />
** Conf# 4400<br />
* 866-500-1038 or 650-215-7299 (different provider that may have less dropout problems)<br />
** Extension: 92<br />
** Conf# 4400<br />
<br />
'''Conference Call Controls'''<br />
<br />
Each time you say something, please '''say your name''' first so people know who's speaking<br />
<br />
Pressing * by itself will give you an audio menu with the following for pressing<br />
* 1 to mute or unmute when muted <small>(and exit the menu)</small><br />
* 4 to make the conference quieter to you<br />
* 6 to make the conference louder to you<br />
* 7 to make yourself quieter to everyone else<br />
* 9 to make yourself louder to everyone else<br />
<br />
When dialing the volume controls, you remain in the menu. You can dial 4, 6, 7, or 9 repeatedly in any combination to adjust the volume in each direction. Please dial 8 once you get it to the volume level you want to exit the menu. If you forget to dial 8 it will eventually time out and tell you "Invalid Option"<br />
<br />
'''Chat'''<br />
* [irc://irc.mozilla.org/maildev irc.mozilla.org #maildev] for backchannel</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo&diff=140928Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo2009-04-21T17:11:11Z<p>Beckley: Added extra phone numbers (suggested by justdave) that hopefully have less dropouts</p>
<hr />
<div>'''Telephone Info'''<br />
* 1-800-707-2533 (US)<br />
** PIN: 369<br />
** Conf# 4400<br />
* 866-500-1038 or 650-215-7299<br />
** Different provider that may have less dropout problems<br />
* 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 (US/INTL)<br />
* 1-778-785-1540 (Canada)<br />
** Extension: 92<br />
** Conf# 4400<br />
<br />
'''Conference Call Controls'''<br />
<br />
Each time you say something, please '''say your name''' first so people know who's speaking<br />
<br />
Pressing * by itself will give you an audio menu with the following for pressing<br />
* 1 to mute or unmute when muted <small>(and exit the menu)</small><br />
* 4 to make the conference quieter to you<br />
* 6 to make the conference louder to you<br />
* 7 to make yourself quieter to everyone else<br />
* 9 to make yourself louder to everyone else<br />
<br />
When dialing the volume controls, you remain in the menu. You can dial 4, 6, 7, or 9 repeatedly in any combination to adjust the volume in each direction. Please dial 8 once you get it to the volume level you want to exit the menu. If you forget to dial 8 it will eventually time out and tell you "Invalid Option"<br />
<br />
'''Chat'''<br />
* [irc://irc.mozilla.org/maildev irc.mozilla.org #maildev] for backchannel</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-04-21&diff=140912Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-04-212009-04-21T16:37:21Z<p>Beckley: /* beckley */</p>
<hr />
<div><small>[[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-04-14|last meeting]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings|index]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-04-28|next week &raquo;]]</small><br />
<br />
'''Thunderbird Meeting Details''' : <br />
<br />
* [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=04&day=21&hour=16&min=30&sec=0 Tuesday, Apr 21st, 16:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)<br />
* [[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]<br />
<br />
== Agenda ==<br />
<br />
* Who's taking minutes? --> '''asuth'''<br />
* [http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.<br />
<br />
=== Action Items ===<br />
<br />
==== New ====<br />
<br />
==== Open ====<br />
<br />
==== Closed ====<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b3|Thunderbird 3 Beta 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* Planned Freeze Dates ( ''All dates use time of 23:59 PST'' )<br />
** Slushy String freeze date: 2009-04-28 (Tuesday)<br />
** Slushy Code Freeze date: 2009-04-30 (Thursday)<br />
** Firm String / Code freeze date: 2009-05-05 (Tuesday)<br />
** l10n-mozilla-1.9.1 freeze date: 2009-05-07 (Thursday)<br />
** Target Build Ship date: 2009-05-12 (Tuesday)<br />
* dmose is release driver<br />
* gozer is build engineer<br />
<br />
* Blockers/Wanted<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 61 (-8)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 27 (+1)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux] 28 (-1)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (b3)|blocking-thunderbird3%3F|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 1 (0)<br />
* Fixed:<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 60 (+9)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 19 (+4)<br />
<br />
* Six weekly milestones ([[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b3#Milestones|[m1] - [m6]]]) have been created to help spread out [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux feature work] across the milestone and avoid lots of hard landings / misses at the end of the cycle.<br />
** davida driving [b3ux]<br />
** davida: too many bugs? slip or cut<br />
*** various discussion; general feeling seemed to be that shipping was very important<br />
<br />
* Bug-owners: please try to find a little time (an hour?) and go through as many bugs as you can and add a few paragraphs about implementation strategy and test plan. This will be helpful for both QA and for convincing people to step up to the plate for new bugs, and the hope is that it will actually be a net win as far as time spent goes, despite requiring the time-investment up-front.<br />
** Please try and write at least one TestPlan this week<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:Final|Thunderbird 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap]]<br />
* Blockers<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+] 114 (-8)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=tb3needs&sharer_id=1537 TB 3 Needs]: 3 (-2)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 19 (+3)<br />
<br />
* Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.<br />
* If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don't want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.<br />
<br />
=== QA Updates ===<br />
* Test day is this Thursday see [[Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2009-04-23]]<br />
* Litmus test run is next week<br />
* Trying [http://chat.mozillamessaging Webchat] as a new way to engage users<br />
<br />
=== Marketing Updates ===<br />
<br />
=== IT update ===<br />
<br />
* Saturday's [http://noc.mozillamessaging.com/2009/04/warning-intermittent-network-issues.html outage]<br />
** Caused by our firewall hitting it's connections limit<br />
*** Caused by an accidental global increase in keepalive timeouts that should have been limited to chat.mozillamessaging.com<br />
** Resulted in degraded performance of all our web presences<br />
** Fully monitored now, and will not happen again<br />
<br />
* All planned new hardware has been ordered<br />
* Planned RAM upgrade has begun<br />
** 1 VMware Server has been upgraded<br />
** 1 is planned for this week<br />
** The other 2 will be next week<br />
<br />
* [http://chat.mozillamessaging.com chat.mozillamessaging.com] is up and ready for some trial by fire<br />
<br />
=== Roundtable ===<br />
<br />
==== Status Updates ====<br />
<br />
===== davida =====<br />
<br />
===== dmose =====<br />
<br />
===== nth10sd =====<br />
<br />
* {{bug|440641}} successfully triaged with hang stack.<br />
** Getting some more qawanted on my plate..<br />
* More testcase reduction fun (JS-land).<br />
* Mozmill has experimental modal dialog support, now waiting on templatized DOM trees patch (needed for folder selection on the left side for TB)<br />
<br />
===== Standard8 =====<br />
<br />
* Reviews & Driving<br />
* {{Bug|489168}} Leaking nsAbCardProperty when collecting addresses for email addresses that already exist in the address book.<br />
* Send in background {{Bug|440794}}<br />
** Fixed sending more than one message in a session.<br />
** Hooked up to shutdown service so that we'll now finish sending if we're already sending when user attempts to quit (note, this is currently affected by {{bug|459376}}<br />
** Had some discussions on how to fix/avoid the quit-application-requested bug ({{bug|459376}}).<br />
** Did some big re-factoring {{Bug|489325}} so we can get sane progress indications from the back-end to the front-end which will lead into doing retry on failure etc.<br />
<br />
===== asuth =====<br />
<br />
===== bienvenu =====<br />
* Reviews and driving<br />
* Autoconfig is on the trunk, but not enabled in the UI yet - working through blocking issues with Philor.<br />
* Smart Mailboxes patches in review process<br />
* Worked on GMAil XLIST support<br />
* Fixed exception in gloda folder deleted event listener, {{bug|488590}}<br />
* Landed potential fix for hang on shutdown with open imap connections{{bug|487965}}<br />
* speed up undoing move/delete of large number of local messages by using db batching, {{bug|488606}}<br />
* make sure we playback offline events if you shutdown offline and restart online, {{bug|364082}}<br />
* make longer network timeout for copying large number of imap messages, {{bug|409259}}<br />
<br />
===== gozer =====<br />
<br />
* Build<br />
** Investigate source based nightly/try builds {{bug|489338}}<br />
** Try Server Mac OS X issues look resolved<br />
<br />
* Web<br />
** Saturday's outage : [[#IT_update]]<br />
** [http://chat.mozillamessaging.com/ chat.mozillamessaging.com] up and ready for testing<br />
<br />
* Infrastructure<br />
** All planned new hardware has been ordered<br />
** Colo Rack move will happen April 29th, more details still to come<br />
** We have a Jabber server now (backend to chat), would there be interest in opening this up ?<br />
<br />
===== clarkbw =====<br />
<br />
===== wsmwk =====<br />
* resurrected {{bug|201332}} [meta] bugs related to "Show only subscribed folders" option<br />
* qa'd {{Bug|486430}} Mail Start Page disappears after right click<br />
* qa'd {{Bug|487965}} hang on shutdown with open imap connections and zero cpu<br />
* qa'd {{Bug|487375}} Severe performance issues on USB stick while deleting or receiving mail<br />
* bugday - triage trunk unconfirmed with no previous comment<br />
* profile manager - more banging on dataloss concerns<br />
* cruisin<br />
<br />
===== beckley =====<br />
<br />
====== Penelope ======<br />
<br />
* Synced Eudora source to latest TB 3.0b3pre sources, and next Eudora beta will be based on TB 3.0b3 released sources<br />
* Talked to gozer and bhearsum about configuring updates for Eudora<br />
* Worked some on that, but having problems with Venkman not breaking in some update wizard pages<br />
<br />
===== KaiRo =====<br />
<br />
===== rkent =====<br />
<br />
===== rebron =====<br />
<br />
===== Tsk =====<br />
*Done :<br />
** Tested chat.mome<br />
** changed the look from chat.mome<br />
** Triaged some perf related bugs<br />
<br />
*Continuing :<br />
** Test plans<br />
** Community engagement<br />
** Looking into mozmill<br />
<br />
*Todo :<br />
** start thinking about 3.0<br />
** make the litmus testing sucessfull.<br />
<br />
===== andreasn =====<br />
* Got network running in the Vista VM and Dropbox to sync between the Desktop and the VM.<br />
<br />
* Last week<br />
** Activity manager stuff<br />
** Vista: better looking sidebar.<br />
** Vista: lots of new icons<br />
<br />
* This week<br />
** Get as many Vista icons in as possible<br />
** Track Linux changes in bugzilla and wiki.<br />
** Vista theme work.<br />
** XP theme work.<br />
<br />
=== Attendees ===<br />
<br />
__NOTOC__</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-04-14&diff=139863Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-04-142009-04-14T16:37:41Z<p>Beckley: /* beckley */</p>
<hr />
<div><small>[[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-04-07|last meeting]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings|index]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-04-21|next week &raquo;]]</small><br />
<br />
'''Thunderbird Meeting Details''' : <br />
<br />
* [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=04&day=14&hour=16&min=30&sec=0 Tuesday, Apr 14th, 16:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)<br />
* [[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]<br />
<br />
== Agenda ==<br />
<br />
* Who's taking minutes? --> '''dmose'''<br />
* [http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.<br />
<br />
=== Action Items ===<br />
<br />
==== New ====<br />
<br />
==== Open ====<br />
<br />
==== Closed ====<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b3|Thunderbird 3 Beta 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* Planned Freeze Dates ( ''All dates use time of 23:59 PST'' )<br />
** Slushy String freeze date: 2009-04-28 (Tuesday)<br />
** Slushy Code Freeze date: 2009-04-30 (Thursday)<br />
** Firm String / Code freeze date: 2009-05-05 (Tuesday)<br />
** l10n-mozilla-1.9.1 freeze date: 2009-05-07 (Thursday)<br />
** Target Build Ship date: 2009-05-12 (Tuesday)<br />
* dmose is release driver<br />
* gozer is build engineer<br />
<br />
* Blockers/Wanted<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 69 (-5)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 26 (+6)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux] 29 (-5)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (b3)|blocking-thunderbird3%3F|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 1 (0)<br />
* Fixed:<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 51 (+1)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 15 (+1)<br />
<br />
* Six weekly milestones ([[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b3#Milestones|[m1] - [m6]]]) have been created to help spread out [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux feature work] across the milestone and avoid lots of hard landings / misses at the end of the cycle.<br />
** please update status whiteboard with status of your bugs for the next week's milestone by the end of each Thursday, dmose will poke these on Friday<br />
<br />
* Bug-owners: please try to find a little time (an hour?) and go through as many bugs as you can and add a few paragraphs about implementation strategy and test plan. This will be helpful for both QA and for convincing people to step up to the plate for new bugs, and the hope is that it will actually be a net win as far as time spent goes, despite requiring the time-investment up-front.<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:Final|Thunderbird 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap]]<br />
* Blockers<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+] 122 (-3)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=tb3needs&sharer_id=1537 TB 3 Needs]: 5 (0)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 16 (+4)<br />
<br />
* Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.<br />
* If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don't want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.<br />
<br />
* Standard8 starting to pull together plans for the release.<br />
<br />
=== QA Updates ===<br />
* Moved two initial test days to one -> Next Week<br />
* Held a special bug day around QA wanted bugs<br />
* Started a discussion on improving QA contributions<br />
** working with gozer on testing a replacement for IRC<br />
* Would love to see more TestPlans (still only one so far)<br />
<br />
=== Marketing Updates ===<br />
* Improvements to SpreadThunderbird, layout changes, added a couple folks to the core team, added [http://identi.ca/group/spreadthunderbird identica] group and looking to do more in [http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=57181164056 Facebook group]. Targeting poster contest for next week.<br />
* Working through steady stream of GetSatisfaction! questions.<br />
* Press work/planning for launch.<br />
<br />
=== Roundtable ===<br />
<br />
==== Status Updates ====<br />
<br />
===== davida =====<br />
<br />
===== dmose =====<br />
* this past week<br />
** In Vancouver, BC list week to work with MoMo folks there<br />
** finished localizedRe unit test bug; should land today<br />
** 3.0b3 driving work<br />
** a few reviews<br />
** various calendaring discussions<br />
<br />
===== nth10sd =====<br />
<br />
* Mozmill work<br />
* Planning for the summer<br />
* Bugdays, b.m.o, ...<br />
<br />
===== Standard8 =====<br />
<br />
* Reviews & Driving<br />
* Holidays (Easter)<br />
* First patch for {{Bug|466527}} "Setting the mail start page to non-redirects causes bad display of what's new tab" updated & pushed.<br />
* Came to the conclusion that the patch written for {{bug|485395}} (Never prompted for password, so auth always fails - log in failures with % or @ in username) was sufficient, therefore posted for review.<br />
* Mozmill<br />
** More experiments - filed {{Bug|487385}} and {{Bug|487391}}<br />
** Now in a position where we can try and move forward with getting versions of scripts that can run TB + mozmill for bloat and for automated tests.<br />
** '''Helpwanted''': expand the current patches for TB + mozmill scripts to cover what we need, full explanation and what is wanted [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=458352#c3 Bug 458352 comment 3]<br />
* Send in Background<br />
** {{Bug|440794}} Wrote patch to start integrating send in background with the shutdown service - this doesn't work completely on all platforms because of {{bug|459376}} doing WIP patch. The integration will ensure that if we are already sending an email when we try to shut down, we'll wait until we have sent it before continuing.<br />
<br />
Goals for this week:<br />
<br />
* Send in background<br />
** Expand shutdown to cover pending messages to send.<br />
** Extend policy to cope with failures to send and deal with re-sends.<br />
<br />
===== asuth =====<br />
* refactoring, tests, more refactoring<br />
* meetings<br />
* multiple real world intrusions<br />
<br />
===== bienvenu =====<br />
<br />
===== gozer =====<br />
<br />
* Build<br />
** Shark builds are now [http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/nightly/latest-comm-1.9.1/thunderbird-3.0b3pre.en-US.mac-shark.dmg available]<br />
** Trunk builds are <font color=green>GREEN</font> again<br />
** Try Server<br />
*** Getting good patch review love<br />
*** Running all 3 platforms now<br />
**** OS X is experiencing a lot of problems cloning hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central<br />
<br />
* Web<br />
** SpreadThunderbird<br />
*** Working with Paul on various Drupal upgrades<br />
<br />
* Infrastructure<br />
** Colo Rack move will most likely happen April 29th, more details to come<br />
** New hardware being ordered today!<br />
<br />
===== clarkbw =====<br />
<br />
===== wsmwk =====<br />
* working on beefing up triarger ranks<br />
** extended bugzilla privs to macmel (ludo's neighbor) and Jay Moran<br />
** in last 180 days: 1,384 bug filers, ~1,100 filing only one bug, 275 filing 2-3 bugs, 75 4-9 bugs, 35 >10 bugs<br />
* good conversation with [http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/database-soup Josh Berkus (:jberkus)] who is interested in advising on volunteerism come May<br />
* bugday<br />
* first pass on password/pwd bugs (and moving most to component=security)<br />
* war on profile/startup bugs continues<br />
<br />
===== beckley =====<br />
<br />
====== Penelope ======<br />
<br />
* Released new betas of [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Eudora_Releases Eudora] and [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Penelope_Extensions Penelope]<br />
* Crash symbols for all three OSes are up and working correctly<br />
* Looking at getting updates to work<br />
* Made a possible fix for {{bug|464616}}, but I don't know for sure because I can't get the bug to reproduce<br />
* Fixed {{bug|488228}} about:config being opened on restore when Pref window being opened<br />
<br />
===== KaiRo =====<br />
* {{bug|488116}} a common unit test buildbot factory for SeaMonkey and Thunderbird is ready and should land within days<br />
* {{bug|316387}} preprocessing version numbers into module.ver for Windows .exe files has a patch now<br />
* Early stage of talks and start of planning for MozCamp Vienna in October (local event on the open net, organized by Mozilla)<br />
* working on Google Summer of Code application decisions<br />
<br />
===== rkent =====<br />
<br />
===== rebron =====<br />
* Q2 - Q3 goal planning.<br />
* Working through GetSatisfaction queue and drafting support requirements.<br />
* Press work: Washington Post, other planning.<br />
<br />
===== Tsk =====<br />
Worked on :<br />
* {{bug|487589}} : input for this change welcome - the sooner we get this the better<br />
* Reorganize Testing events<br />
* Played a more with mozmill<br />
<br />
Worked planned :<br />
* Preparing test plan for next test day<br />
* Prepare litmus test run<br />
* Do some triage<br />
<br />
===== andreasn =====<br />
<br />
* Spent some time trying to get a Bluetooth headset to work.<br />
* Gave up and bought a wired one instead, fought that a bit.<br />
* Sent roadmap to David and Bryan<br />
* Installed Vista and got it up and running.<br />
<br />
* Last Week<br />
** Linux account central icons<br />
** Vista compose icons<br />
** Vista preferences icons<br />
<br />
* This week<br />
** More Vista icons and theme work.<br />
** Activity manager work<br />
** Track Linux changes in bugzilla and wiki.<br />
<br />
=== Attendees ===<br />
<br />
__NOTOC__</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-04-07&diff=138543Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-04-072009-04-07T16:19:02Z<p>Beckley: /* beckley */</p>
<hr />
<div><small>[[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-03-31|last meeting]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings|index]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-04-14|next week &raquo;]]</small><br />
<br />
'''Thunderbird Meeting Details''' : <br />
<br />
* [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=04&day=14&hour=16&min=30&sec=0 Tuesday, Mar 31st, 16:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)<br />
* [[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]<br />
<br />
== Agenda ==<br />
<br />
* Who's taking minutes? --> '''davida'''<br />
* [http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.<br />
<br />
=== Action Items ===<br />
<br />
==== New ====<br />
<br />
==== Open ====<br />
<br />
==== Closed ====<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b3|Thunderbird 3 Beta 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* Planned Freeze Dates ( ''All dates use time of 23:59 PST'' )<br />
** Slushy String freeze date: 2009-04-21 (Tuesday)<br />
** Slushy Code Freeze date: 2009-04-23 (Thursday)<br />
** Firm String / Code freeze date: 2009-04-28 (Tuesday)<br />
** l10n-mozilla-1.9.1 freeze date: 2009-04-30 (Thursday)<br />
** Target Build Ship date: 2009-05-05 (Tuesday)<br />
* dmose is release driver<br />
* gozer is build engineer<br />
<br />
* Blockers/Wanted<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 74 (-8)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 20 (-2)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux] 34 (-2)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (b3)|blocking-thunderbird3%3F|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 1 (-2)<br />
* Fixed:<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 50 (+11)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 14 (+4)<br />
<br />
* Five weekly milestones ([[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b3#Milestones|[m1] - [m5]]]) have been created to help spread out [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux feature work] across the milestone and avoid lots of hard landings / misses at the end of the cycle.<br />
** please update status whiteboard with status of your bugs for the next week's milestone by the end of each Thursday, dmose will poke these on Friday<br />
<br />
* Bug-owners: please try to find a little time (an hour?) and go through as many bugs as you can and add a few paragraphs about implementation strategy and test plan. This will be helpful for both QA and for convincing people to step up to the plate for new bugs, and the hope is that it will actually be a net win as far as time spent goes, despite requiring the time-investment up-front.<br />
<br />
=== Thunderbird 3 ===<br />
<br />
* [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap]]<br />
* Blockers<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+] 125 (-9)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=tb3needs&sharer_id=1537 TB 3 Needs]: 5 (-2)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 11 (-4)<br />
<br />
* Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.<br />
* If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don't want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.<br />
<br />
=== QA Updates ===<br />
* Held the last One year of bug day events<br />
** Result look bad in numbers , maybe one new contributor joined<br />
** Bugdays is [http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=p5s-HZTtle5tmH9YD612eEA&hl=en 5 away] from having 2,000 bugs change resolution<br />
* Having the first B3 test day this week<br />
** this depends heavily on what will land<br />
* Working on moving some litmus test to mozmill<br />
* QA contribution from our user base is low<br />
** Maybe 05-15 people triaging.<br />
** This needs to increase.<br />
* Still only [[Thunderbird:TestPlans:Poptarts| one (Poptarts)]] [[Special:Search?search=Thunderbird%3ATestPlans%3A&go=GoFeature |description written]]. Need testplans for ____, _____<br />
* BMO now allows status NEW>UNCO. So, now bugs whose quality does not measure up to being NEW can, and should be, kicked back to UNCO<br />
* Discussion in progress in m.d.planning about bugzilla workflow<br />
* [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/mtbf/of/Thunderbird/milestone MTBF] is running again (but 3.0b2 and 3.0b3pre sparklines will be missing data until {{bug|472157}} back-fills old data)<br />
<br />
=== Marketing Updates ===<br />
<br />
=== Roundtable ===<br />
<br />
==== Status Updates ====<br />
<br />
===== davida =====<br />
<br />
===== dmose =====<br />
<br />
===== nth10sd =====<br />
<br />
* Working on Mozmill.<br />
<br />
===== Standard8 =====<br />
<br />
* Reviews and triage<br />
* Proposed revised content policy ({{bug|374578}}, {{bug|466527}}) to allow us (and extensions) to be able to correctly load remote content into iframes (and/or browser) elements in non-mail tabs.<br />
* {{Bug|455246}} Completed the final patch for card -> contact renames.<br />
* {{Bug|482489}} Adding extra information to alerts system so that we can get account information at UI level (and be able to group it errors/warnings in activity manager).<br />
* More work on Mozmill alongside _Tsk_<br />
** was hoping to get running for content policy changes<br />
** Andrew has proposed a way for hooking Mozmill tests up, which I think may work for running tests automated.<br />
** still looking at hooking up to bloat ({{Bug|458352}}), and trying to sort out issues with current trunk builds. There is one issue remaining that seems to mean we aren't running any tests when running mozmill from the command line. Once that is fixed, already have an idea for clean shutdown, and as a result we should be able to fix bloat tests.<br />
* Looked at hooking activity manager up to status bar<br />
** Some issues as "loading..." message overrides the last item, e.g. Moved 1 message to x.<br />
* Tracked down two trunk Lk regressions (which were actually caused by mozilla-central) and suggested that they have an automated Lk regression tracker (as they have for Talos).<br />
* Tracked down regression from bug 487202 which causes trunk builds to break (start up, but broken js file), waiting to hear if this is an issue with TB code or not.<br />
<br />
Goals for this week:<br />
<br />
* Hook up activity manager to the status bar in some form.<br />
* Start looking at password manager alerts.<br />
* Further work on sending mail in background.<br />
<br />
===== asuth =====<br />
<br />
===== bienvenu =====<br />
* Reviews and driving<br />
* Submitted auto config patch for review - working through issues Phil found<br />
* Added way to have hidden accounts for smart mailboxes, {{bug|482477}}<br />
* Fixed incorrect bolding of imap folders when they don't have new messages, {{bug|482754}}<br />
* Fixed handling of move/copy of local folders to imap server such that we can do more than one copy to the same imap folder, and add unit test {{bug|448550}}<br />
* Fixed activity manager display for move/copy of folders, {{bug|448550}}<br />
* Fixed adding/removing messages from grouped view, {{bug|482195}}<br />
<br />
===== gozer =====<br />
<br />
* Build<br />
** Try Server<br />
*** Amazon EC2 Windows builder is up and building<br />
*** Amazon EC2 Windows RefPlatform AMI v0 is up, e-mail me if you want access to it<br />
*** Amazon EC2 Small Windows instance is cheap, but <b>slow</b><br />
*** Outstanding patches got reviewed, need some minimal tweaking<br />
<br />
* Web<br />
** Humming...<br />
<br />
* Infrastructure<br />
** Planning for new hardware is moving along<br />
** Working with MoCo IT on moving our colo rack to a different cage<br />
*** Will mean some service downtime, unfortunately<br />
*** Tentative date for the move : <i>Last week of April</i><br />
<br />
===== clarkbw =====<br />
<br />
===== wsmwk =====<br />
* Triaging: startup crashes, Mac crashers, Mailnews Core: Internationalization (only 7 fixed in last 2 years)<br />
** fixed last 10 bugs that had empty QA<br />
** gradually fixing Mailnews Core: Internationalization that don't yet have correct QA (the only remaining item from last mass cleanup)<br />
* Put feelers out in mozillazine forums and newsgroups for more volunteers, but no bites afaict (readership is ... builds forum is ~100, bugs forum ~50) - so that well seems dry<br />
* Trivia: 250 comments already at Lifehacker article [http://lifehacker.com/5200716/is-thunderbird-desktop-email-dying-out Is Thunderbird, Desktop Email Dying Out?]<br />
<br />
===== beckley =====<br />
<br />
====== Penelope ======<br />
<br />
* Lots of small changes made for the upcoming Eudora/Penelope betas.<br />
* Having troubles with customize toolbar code since it got unforked from mail back in to toolkit.<br />
* Will release betas as soon as that's fixed.<br />
<br />
===== KaiRo =====<br />
*Reworked SeaMonkey test buildbot configs to closely match the Firefox "mozilla2" cionfigs, wrote a custom factory class to be used there, investigated doing it builders as well, found+filed another issue with abstracted builder classes, this all should end in the possibility to use one slave pool per platform for all branches, builds and tests in each of SeaMonkey and Thunderbird configs<br />
<br />
===== rkent =====<br />
<br />
===== rebron =====<br />
<br />
===== Tsk =====<br />
*done:<br />
** Looked in mozmill with Standard8 and nth10sd<br />
** Following different thread on proposed changes to bugzilla<br />
** communicated about the test days<br />
<br />
*todo<br />
** Need to figure out how to grow QA contributions<br />
** Need to follow up on the Unit test xpcshell workshop<br />
<br />
===== andreasn =====<br />
<br />
=== Attendees ===<br />
<br />
__NOTOC__</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-03-31&diff=137308Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-03-312009-03-31T16:54:43Z<p>Beckley: /* beckley */</p>
<hr />
<div><small>[[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-03-24|last meeting]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings|index]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-04-07|next week &raquo;]]</small><br />
<br />
'''Thunderbird Meeting Details''' : <br />
<br />
* [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=03&day=31&hour=16&min=30&sec=0 Tuesday, Mar 31st, 16:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)<br />
* [[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]<br />
<br />
== Agenda ==<br />
<br />
* Who's taking minutes? --> '''rebron'''<br />
* [http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.<br />
<br />
=== Action Items ===<br />
<br />
==== New ====<br />
<br />
==== Open ====<br />
<br />
==== Closed ====<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b3|Thunderbird 3 Beta 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* Planned Freeze Dates - Updated ( ''All dates use time of 23:59 PST'' )<br />
** Slushy String freeze date: 2009-04-21 (Tuesday)<br />
** Slushy Code Freeze date: 2009-04-23 (Thursday)<br />
** Firm String / Code freeze date: 2009-04-28 (Tuesday)<br />
** l10n-mozilla-1.9.1 freeze date: 2009-04-30 (Thursday)<br />
** Target Build Ship date: 2009-05-05 (Tuesday)<br />
* dmose is release driver<br />
* gozer is build engineer<br />
<br />
* Blockers/Wanted<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 82 (-2)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 22 (0)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux] 36 (+4)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (b3)|blocking-thunderbird3%3F|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 3 (0)<br />
* Fixed:<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 39 (+1)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 10 (+1)<br />
<br />
* Five weekly milestones ([[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b3#Milestones|[m1] - [m5]]]) have been created to help spread out [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux feature work] across the milestone and avoid lots of hard landings / misses at the end of the cycle.<br />
** please update status whiteboard with status of your bugs for the next week's milestone by the end of each Thursday, dmose will poke these on Friday<br />
<br />
* Bug-owners: please try to find a little time (an hour?) and go through as many bugs as you can and add a few paragraphs about implementation strategy and test plan. This will be helpful for both QA and for convincing people to step up to the plate for new bugs, and the hope is that it will actually be a net win as far as time spent goes, despite requiring the time-investment up-front.<br />
<br />
=== Thunderbird 3 ===<br />
<br />
* [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap]]<br />
* Blockers<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+] 134 (+6)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=tb3needs&sharer_id=1537 TB 3 Needs]: 7 (+2)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 15 (-7)<br />
<br />
* Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.<br />
* If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don't want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.<br />
<br />
=== QA Updates ===<br />
* One year bug day events - in progress, second day coming up<br />
* Nice proposal for [http://ur1.ca/2xk0 30 minute test plan proposal] with a good example for [[Thunderbird:TestPlans:Poptarts]].<br />
* Organizing Test days for Beta3<br />
* Talked with Raphaël to update 2.x beta channel users. It makes sense to update them after 3.0b3 is out.<br />
<br />
=== Marketing Updates ===<br />
* Over 90% of users are now on Thunderbird 2.0.0.21.<br />
* Getting 7 - 12 new questions/issues a day with GetSatisfaction. About 300 issues reported so far, several dupes. The main issues people are seeing: 1) installation/upgrade, 2) password issues, 3) account configuration.<br />
<br />
=== Roundtable ===<br />
<br />
==== Status Updates ====<br />
<br />
===== davida =====<br />
<br />
===== dmose =====<br />
<br />
===== nth10sd =====<br />
<br />
* QA, bugdays, etc.<br />
* define:'''patchlove''' - bugzilla activity where old patches are tested to be loved (applies cleanly) or trashed (doesn't apply anymore) ref: [[Thunderbird:PatchLove]]<br />
* Investigated {{bug|476000}} - Crash [@ NS_GetInnermostURI(nsIURI*) ] attempting to right-click specific selected text - in more detail.<br />
<br />
===== Standard8 =====<br />
<br />
* Reviews<br />
* {{Bug|483937}} Import of CSV address book silently fails.<br />
* {{Bug|482768}} xpcshell tests broken on trunk due to mozilla-central changes.<br />
* {{Bug|485585}} Provided reduced test case for trunk test issue (JIT) - builds now green again.<br />
* {{Bug|440794}} Leverage Offline capabilities to make sending email appear faster.<br />
** Revised the first version so that we retain the send later capability (via message flags).<br />
<br />
* Goals - Remote Images<br />
** Decided not to do separate whitelist for the time being as it is likely to take too long to tidy up and fix bugs, additionally not 100% sure its exactly what we want to do in the long term. Therefore went for fixing up the issues with the current system.<br />
** {{Bug|465577}} Proposed fix for Remote Images & Mac OS X Address Book Case<br />
** {{Bug|461660}} "Allow remote images in HTML mail" state not saved across restarts<br />
*** Discussed potential fix with Joshua.<br />
<br />
* Goals for next week<br />
** {{Bug|440794}} Leverage Offline capabilities to make sending email appear faster.<br />
*** Sort out shutdown issue<br />
*** Sort out fallbacks if send or save to sent folder fails.<br />
<br />
===== asuth =====<br />
<br />
Most notably working on {{bug|474701}}, gloda-search. Doing this right has resulted in an exciting refactoring of the front-end code involving nsMsgDBView and friends. Currently finishing up the refactoring and starting on implementing mozmill tests to be able to prove that it works.<br />
<br />
===== bienvenu =====<br />
* Reviews and Driving - cleared a lot of bugs from my review queue<br />
* Cleared a few blockers off my list<br />
* Have a patch under review for b3ux bug, doing autosync on app idle<br />
* Fixed {bug||485995}} - not closing imap connections on shutdown<br />
* fixed {{bug|484006}}, don't try to select virtual folders in auto sync or check for new messages, clears up activity manager display<br />
* Checked in change for {{bug|409259}} don't retry imap urls more than once, in order to avoid multiple copies of message when a message copy times out.<br />
* Fixed parsing of unsolicited capability response, {{bug|470650}}<br />
* Worked on a couple smart mailboxes infrastructure patches<br />
* Worked on imap message count issues; have a proposed fix for some issues.<br />
* Worked on getting autoconfig patch ready for review<br />
<br />
Next Week<br />
* submit autoconfig patch for review<br />
* b3 blockers<br />
* More work on smart mailboxes patches.<br />
<br />
===== gozer =====<br />
<br />
* Build<br />
** Our own Try server is up and running, ask me or file a bug if you want access<br />
** Mac OS X builder up and running, all working.<br />
** Win32 almost complete as Amazon AMI<br />
*** <strike>if it wasn't for a slightly incorrect version of Visual Studio that's missing SP1, working on it.</strike><br />
*** Running the first Thunderbird build as you read this, looking good.<br />
*** IO does appear slow, took +/- 80 minutes total to clone comm-central+mozilla-central<br />
** Linux on it's way as well<br />
<br />
* Web<br />
** Traffic still growing nicely, around 4.2 million hits/hour in the last 24 hours.<br />
<br />
* Infrastructure<br />
** Good times with Amazon EC2 and S3<br />
<br />
===== clarkbw =====<br />
<br />
===== wsmwk =====<br />
<br />
* bugday<br />
* more [[Thunderbird:PatchLove]]<br />
* updating [[Thunderbird:Bug_Queries]] (eg biff, threading, online/offline), and adding (eg junk|spam|jmc, NSPR + NSS)<br />
* bug triage: online/offline, dns, 64bit, sleep/wake, FF "send link", failed msg copies <br />
* crashers: filed several new crash and topcrash - {{bug|485810}} nsComponentManagerImpl::GetServiceByContractID, {{Bug|484550}} [@ arena_dalloc_small | arena_dalloc ][@ nsFolderCompactState::`vector deleting destructor'], {{Bug|483961}} [@ nsImapOfflineSync::ProcessNextOperation]<br />
<br />
===== beckley =====<br />
<br />
====== Penelope ======<br />
<br />
* Figured out the cause of the "random" important tag bug {{bug|471399}} and have a fix to Eudora for it<br />
* Tracked down the problem of importing attachments in messages from Classic Mac Eudora, and it's a problem with the Mac Eudora exporter. Working to find out what the exact bug is.<br />
* Hope to get a new Eudora/Penelope beta this week<br />
<br />
===== KaiRo =====<br />
* Spent the weekend at [[MAOW:2009:Berlin:en|MAOW Berlin]]<br />
* Did some easy cleanup of the obsolete NO_JAR_AUTO_REG var in {{bug|484607}} (fallout from writing slides for the MAOW talk on using the build system for extensions)<br />
<br />
===== rkent =====<br />
<br />
===== rebron =====<br />
* Working through Add-ons upgrade plan. 35 of the 600 make up 80% of the usage.<br />
* Continued work on Support/GetSatisfaction plan.<br />
<br />
===== Tsk =====<br />
Achieved<br />
* initial test plans for TB3b3<br />
** Sending out the plan to Sun, Ubuntu, OpenSuse and Fedora people<br />
** Plan send to [https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/thunderbird-testers -testers]<br />
** Plan Exposed on geckozone.org and Mozillazine.org<br />
* More work on coverage - but as asuth asked - jscoverage does not show anywhere (trying to investigate)<br />
* One year bug day 1<br />
<br />
To do :<br />
* work on mozmill<br />
* make sure people don't forget our testing events<br />
<br />
===== andreasn =====<br />
<br />
* Done:<br />
** Smileys: {bug|484800}<br />
** Starred contacts graphics: {bug|484409}<br />
** Compose window icons: {bug|483777}<br />
** Graphics for message header button backdrop <br />
** Address book icons {bug|485371}<br />
<br />
* In progress:<br />
** Folder pane: {bug|483759}<br />
** Message overview pane: {bug|483761}<br />
** Tab appearance: {bug|484395}<br />
<br />
* Todo:<br />
** Blog post on theming once more stuff land in trunk.<br />
** Application icons: bug 484064 <br />
** Starting work on Winstripe<br />
<br />
=== Attendees ===<br />
<br />
__NOTOC__</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-03-31&diff=137305Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-03-312009-03-31T16:47:15Z<p>Beckley: /* beckley */</p>
<hr />
<div><small>[[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-03-24|last meeting]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings|index]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-04-07|next week &raquo;]]</small><br />
<br />
'''Thunderbird Meeting Details''' : <br />
<br />
* [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=03&day=31&hour=16&min=30&sec=0 Tuesday, Mar 31st, 16:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)<br />
* [[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]<br />
<br />
== Agenda ==<br />
<br />
* Who's taking minutes? --> '''rebron'''<br />
* [http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.<br />
<br />
=== Action Items ===<br />
<br />
==== New ====<br />
<br />
==== Open ====<br />
<br />
==== Closed ====<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b3|Thunderbird 3 Beta 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* Planned Freeze Dates - Updated ( ''All dates use time of 23:59 PST'' )<br />
** Slushy String freeze date: 2009-04-21 (Tuesday)<br />
** Slushy Code Freeze date: 2009-04-23 (Thursday)<br />
** Firm String / Code freeze date: 2009-04-28 (Tuesday)<br />
** l10n-mozilla-1.9.1 freeze date: 2009-04-30 (Thursday)<br />
** Target Build Ship date: 2009-05-05 (Tuesday)<br />
* dmose is release driver<br />
* gozer is build engineer<br />
<br />
* Blockers/Wanted<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 82 (-2)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 22 (0)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux] 36 (+4)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (b3)|blocking-thunderbird3%3F|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 3 (0)<br />
* Fixed:<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 39 (+1)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 10 (+1)<br />
<br />
* Five weekly milestones ([[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b3#Milestones|[m1] - [m5]]]) have been created to help spread out [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux feature work] across the milestone and avoid lots of hard landings / misses at the end of the cycle.<br />
** please update status whiteboard with status of your bugs for the next week's milestone by the end of each Thursday, dmose will poke these on Friday<br />
<br />
* Bug-owners: please try to find a little time (an hour?) and go through as many bugs as you can and add a few paragraphs about implementation strategy and test plan. This will be helpful for both QA and for convincing people to step up to the plate for new bugs, and the hope is that it will actually be a net win as far as time spent goes, despite requiring the time-investment up-front.<br />
<br />
=== Thunderbird 3 ===<br />
<br />
* [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap]]<br />
* Blockers<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+] 134 (+6)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=tb3needs&sharer_id=1537 TB 3 Needs]: 7 (+2)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 15 (-7)<br />
<br />
* Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.<br />
* If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don't want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.<br />
<br />
=== QA Updates ===<br />
* One year bug day events - in progress, second day coming up<br />
* Nice proposal for [http://ur1.ca/2xk0 30 minute test plan proposal] with a good example for [[Thunderbird:TestPlans:Poptarts]].<br />
* Organizing Test days for Beta3<br />
* Talked with Raphaël to update 2.x beta channel users. It makes sense to update them after 3.0b3 is out.<br />
<br />
=== Marketing Updates ===<br />
* Over 90% of users are now on Thunderbird 2.0.0.21.<br />
* Getting 7 - 12 new questions/issues a day with GetSatisfaction. About 300 issues reported so far, several dupes. The main issues people are seeing: 1) installation/upgrade, 2) password issues, 3) account configuration.<br />
<br />
=== Roundtable ===<br />
<br />
==== Status Updates ====<br />
<br />
===== davida =====<br />
<br />
===== dmose =====<br />
<br />
===== nth10sd =====<br />
<br />
* QA, bugdays, etc.<br />
* define:'''patchlove''' - bugzilla activity where old patches are tested to be loved (applies cleanly) or trashed (doesn't apply anymore) ref: [[Thunderbird:PatchLove]]<br />
* Investigated {{bug|476000}} - Crash [@ NS_GetInnermostURI(nsIURI*) ] attempting to right-click specific selected text - in more detail.<br />
<br />
===== Standard8 =====<br />
<br />
* Reviews<br />
* {{Bug|483937}} Import of CSV address book silently fails.<br />
* {{Bug|482768}} xpcshell tests broken on trunk due to mozilla-central changes.<br />
* {{Bug|485585}} Provided reduced test case for trunk test issue (JIT) - builds now green again.<br />
* {{Bug|440794}} Leverage Offline capabilities to make sending email appear faster.<br />
** Revised the first version so that we retain the send later capability (via message flags).<br />
<br />
* Goals - Remote Images<br />
** Decided not to do separate whitelist for the time being as it is likely to take too long to tidy up and fix bugs, additionally not 100% sure its exactly what we want to do in the long term. Therefore went for fixing up the issues with the current system.<br />
** {{Bug|465577}} Proposed fix for Remote Images & Mac OS X Address Book Case<br />
** {{Bug|461660}} "Allow remote images in HTML mail" state not saved across restarts<br />
*** Discussed potential fix with Joshua.<br />
<br />
* Goals for next week<br />
** {{Bug|440794}} Leverage Offline capabilities to make sending email appear faster.<br />
*** Sort out shutdown issue<br />
*** Sort out fallbacks if send or save to sent folder fails.<br />
<br />
===== asuth =====<br />
<br />
Most notably working on {{bug|474701}}, gloda-search. Doing this right has resulted into an exciting refactoring of the front-end code involving nsMsgDBView and friends. Currently finishing up the refactoring and starting on implementing mozmill tests to be able to prove that it works.<br />
<br />
===== bienvenu =====<br />
* Reviews and Driving - cleared a lot of bugs from my review queue<br />
* Cleared a few blockers off my list<br />
* Have a patch under review for b3ux bug, doing autosync on app idle<br />
* Fixed {bug||485995}} - not closing imap connections on shutdown<br />
* fixed {{bug|484006}}, don't try to select virtual folders in auto sync or check for new messages, clears up activity manager display<br />
* Checked in change for {{bug|409259}} don't retry imap urls more than once, in order to avoid multiple copies of message when a message copy times out.<br />
* Fixed parsing of unsolicited capability response, {{bug|470650}}<br />
* Worked on a couple smart mailboxes infrastructure patches<br />
* Worked on imap message count issues; have a proposed fix for some issues.<br />
* Worked on getting autoconfig patch ready for review<br />
<br />
Next Week<br />
* submit autoconfig patch for review<br />
* b3 blockers<br />
* More work on smart mailboxes patches.<br />
<br />
===== gozer =====<br />
<br />
* Build<br />
** Our own Try server is up and running, ask me or file a bug if you want access<br />
** Mac OS X builder up and running, all working.<br />
** Win32 almost complete as Amazon AMI<br />
*** <strike>if it wasn't for a slightly incorrect version of Visual Studio that's missing SP1, working on it.</strike><br />
*** Running the first Thunderbird build as you read this, looking good.<br />
*** IO does appear slow, took +/- 80 minutes total to clone comm-central+mozilla-central<br />
** Linux on it's way as well<br />
<br />
* Web<br />
** Traffic still growing nicely, around 4.2 million hits/hour in the last 24 hours.<br />
<br />
* Infrastructure<br />
** Good times with Amazon EC2 and S3<br />
<br />
===== clarkbw =====<br />
<br />
===== wsmwk =====<br />
<br />
* bugday<br />
* more [[Thunderbird:PatchLove]]<br />
* updating [[Thunderbird:Bug_Queries]] (eg biff, threading, online/offline), and adding (eg junk|spam|jmc, NSPR + NSS)<br />
* bug triage: online/offline, dns, 64bit, sleep/wake, FF "send link", failed msg copies <br />
* crashers: filed several new crash and topcrash - {{bug|485810}} nsComponentManagerImpl::GetServiceByContractID, {{Bug|484550}} [@ arena_dalloc_small | arena_dalloc ][@ nsFolderCompactState::`vector deleting destructor'], {{Bug|483961}} [@ nsImapOfflineSync::ProcessNextOperation]<br />
<br />
===== beckley =====<br />
<br />
====== Penelope ======<br />
<br />
* Figured out the cause of the "random" important tag bug {{bug|471399}} and have a fix to Eudora for it<br />
* Tracked down the problem of importing attachments in messages from Classic Mac Eudora, and it's a problem with the Mac Eudora exporter. Working to find out what the exact bug is.<br />
<br />
===== KaiRo =====<br />
* Spent the weekend at [[MAOW:2009:Berlin:en|MAOW Berlin]]<br />
* Did some easy cleanup of the obsolete NO_JAR_AUTO_REG var in {{bug|484607}} (fallout from writing slides for the MAOW talk on using the build system for extensions)<br />
<br />
===== rkent =====<br />
<br />
===== rebron =====<br />
* Working through Add-ons upgrade plan. 35 of the 600 make up 80% of the usage.<br />
* Continued work on Support/GetSatisfaction plan.<br />
<br />
===== Tsk =====<br />
Achieved<br />
* initial test plans for TB3b3<br />
** Sending out the plan to Sun, Ubuntu, OpenSuse and Fedora people<br />
** Plan send to [https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/thunderbird-testers -testers]<br />
** Plan Exposed on geckozone.org and Mozillazine.org<br />
* More work on coverage - but as asuth asked - jscoverage does not show anywhere (trying to investigate)<br />
* One year bug day 1<br />
<br />
To do :<br />
* work on mozmill<br />
* make sure people don't forget our testing events<br />
<br />
===== andreasn =====<br />
<br />
* Done:<br />
** Smileys: {bug|484800}<br />
** Starred contacts graphics: {bug|484409}<br />
** Compose window icons: {bug|483777}<br />
** Graphics for message header button backdrop <br />
** Address book icons {bug|485371}<br />
<br />
* In progress:<br />
** Folder pane: {bug|483759}<br />
** Message overview pane: {bug|483761}<br />
** Tab appearance: {bug|484395}<br />
<br />
* Todo:<br />
** Blog post on theming once more stuff land in trunk.<br />
** Application icons: bug 484064 <br />
** Starting work on Winstripe<br />
<br />
=== Attendees ===<br />
<br />
__NOTOC__</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-03-24&diff=135921Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-03-242009-03-24T16:37:11Z<p>Beckley: /* beckley */</p>
<hr />
<div><small>[[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-03-17|last meeting]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings|index]] | [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-03-31|next week &raquo;]]</small><br />
<br />
'''Thunderbird Meeting Details''' : <br />
<br />
* [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=03&day=24&hour=16&min=30&sec=0 Tuesday, Mar 24th, 16:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)<br />
* [[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]<br />
<br />
== Agenda ==<br />
<br />
* Who's taking minutes? --> '''gozer'''<br />
* [http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.<br />
<br />
=== Action Items ===<br />
<br />
==== New ====<br />
<br />
==== Open ====<br />
<br />
==== Closed ====<br />
<br />
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b3|Thunderbird 3 Beta 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* Planned Freeze Dates - Updated ( ''All dates use time of 23:59 PST'' )<br />
** Slushy String freeze date: 2009-04-21 (Tuesday)<br />
** Slushy Code Freeze date: 2009-04-23 (Thursday)<br />
** Firm String / Code freeze date: 2009-04-28 (Tuesday)<br />
** l10n-mozilla-1.9.1 freeze date: 2009-04-30 (Thursday)<br />
** Target Build Ship date: 2009-05-05 (Tuesday)<br />
* dmose is release driver<br />
* gozer is build engineer<br />
<br />
* Blockers/Wanted<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 84 (+4)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 22 (-2)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux] 32 (+1)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (b3)|blocking-thunderbird3%3F|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 3 (+1)<br />
* Fixed:<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 33 (+3)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 9 (+2)<br />
<br />
* Five weekly milestones ([[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b3#Milestones|[m1] - [m5]]]) have been created to help spread out [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux feature work] across the milestone and avoid lots of hard landings / misses at the end of the cycle.<br />
** mail sent to b3ux bug owners asking them to spread those bugs across the milestones<br />
** ''' [m1] is today '''<br />
** [m2] bug triage<br />
** please update status whiteboard with status of your bugs for the next week's milestone by the end of each Thursday<br />
<br />
=== Thunderbird 3 ===<br />
<br />
* [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap]]<br />
* Blockers<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+] 128 (+3)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=tb3needs&sharer_id=1537 TB 3 Needs]: 5 (+1)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 22 (+7)<br />
<br />
* Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.<br />
* If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don't want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.<br />
<br />
=== QA Updates ===<br />
* This weeks mark 1 year of Bug Days !!!!<br />
* [http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=p5s-HZTtle5u8sWBzPvRtXQ Planning by week] is a good thing - We hope not too much will slip for m5<br />
* Gloda - shall we ask our testers to switch to using it now ?<br />
* Two upcoming test days for 3.0b3 - around m3 and m4<br />
* FFT planned starting around m5<br />
<br />
=== Marketing Updates ===<br />
* Greater than 80% of Thunderbird users upgraded to 2.0.0.21 from previous versions of Thunderbird in 5 days.<br />
* 35k users on Thunderbird 3 beta program. <br />
* Working through GetSatisfaction back log. Planning on adding support features to the web site by end of April -- new FAQs, search widget.<br />
* PR planning for Beta 3.<br />
<br />
=== Roundtable ===<br />
<br />
==== '''Reminder''': Google Summer of Code ====<br />
<br />
* [http://code.google.com/soc/ Google Page]<br />
* [[Community:SummerOfCode09:Brainstorming|Brainstorming page]]<br />
* [[Community:SummerOfCode09|Projects with confirmed mentors]]<br />
<br />
Students start applying yesterday!<br />
<br />
==== Reftest & crashtests ====<br />
<br />
(Standard8)<br />
<br />
* Previously didn't realise this was possible: running reftest and crashtest against Thunderbird.<br />
* They both use xul/html/xhtml files to test the layout parts of gecko.<br />
* Should we run them?<br />
** Against core code, so unlikely to get Thunderbird specific tests.<br />
** Tests already run by Firefox against the same core code.<br />
** reftest can take up to 20 minutes to run (longer tinderbox cycle times).<br />
** Only real boost would be confidence that code is doing what it is meant to do.<br />
* Suggestions:<br />
** Don't run against day-to-day Thunderbird tinderbox builds<br />
** Run against build candidates when preparing releases as a confidence that the build is correct.<br />
** (Possibility:) Once we have the capability to separate out tests & build, we could have a separate set of builders lined up and enable them only in the few days of code freeze before a release to gain extra confidence the build is working correctly (and gain a understanding of any intermittent failures).<br />
<br />
==== Status Updates ====<br />
<br />
===== davida =====<br />
<br />
* office move done.<br />
* cold acquired.<br />
<br />
===== dmose =====<br />
* Goals<br />
** 1 hr/day code reviews (done!)<br />
*** finished Gloda review<br />
** drafted SF space plan (done!)<br />
** drive weekly milestone work (done!)<br />
** land message-header (more) patch (lots of progress; not done)<br />
* Non-goal activities<br />
** started working with Fallen on how MoMo can help on the parallel Lightning release<br />
** lots of community discussion work<br />
** plotted with humph on a way to make bugzilla friendlier to newbies<br />
** started discussion with QA folks on litmus performance<br />
* This week goals<br />
** land message-header (more) patch<br />
** drive compact-header discussion<br />
** 1 hr/day code review<br />
** work with calendar folks to draft MoMo help plan<br />
** schedule visits for SF space options<br />
** drive [m2]<br />
<br />
===== nth10sd =====<br />
<br />
* QA discussions, liaising and networking around community.<br />
* Patchlove stalling - punting to future.<br />
<br />
===== Standard8 =====<br />
<br />
* Reviews<br />
* Took a look back at some of our in-testsuite related bugs. Nominated a few extra for testcases. Will try and follow up on a test writing day this week.<br />
* {{Bug|470907}} Thunderbird always uses port 119 for NNTP, ignoring port configured in server settings.<br />
* {{Bug|483593}} Tidy up case-insensitive comments in nsAbMDBDirectory::CardForEmailAddress and extend unit test for insensitive options.<br />
* {{Bug|483577}} Find a way to make compiling mailnews with or without external api easier and set it up.<br />
** This got some of the patches lying around on my system into the code base.<br />
* Updated Bloat tests with Mozmill patch and attached to {{bug|458351}} (previously just lived on my system). Raised some questions with mozmill team about how to do clean shutdown.<br />
<br />
* Goals progress:<br />
** {{Bug|440794}} Leverage Offline capabilities to make sending email appear faster<br />
*** Committed initial patch to enable this, needs some rework as discussed in the bug.<br />
** {{Bug|476487}} Interactive Status Bar<br />
*** Played around with possible implementation, nothing ready for review yet.<br />
** {{Bug|457296}} Remote Images<br />
*** No progress.<br />
<br />
* Goals for next week<br />
** {{Bug|457296}} Remote Images<br />
*** Get this finished.<br />
<br />
===== asuth =====<br />
<br />
===== bienvenu =====<br />
* reviews and driving<br />
* Wrote a patch to make smart mailboxes account hidden<br />
* Worked on making smart mailboxes keep up to date as accounts are added/removed.<br />
* Deal with having junk as opposed to Junk folder, and leaving account settings dialog,{{bug|368617}}<br />
* Make sure we release imap url on the ui thread {{bug|330273}}<br />
* Potential fix for top crash retrying url, make sure we only access nsImapUrl's mock channel from the ui thread {{bug|466318}}<br />
* In autoconfig repo, worked on allowing the user to edit the hostname, and fixed bug with incoming servers that don't support TLS, and synced up with trunk.<br />
<br />
Next week:<br />
* More work on autoconfig - get in reviewable state.<br />
* Work on b3 blockers<br />
* Land some of the backend changes needed for smart mailboxes<br />
<br />
===== gozer =====<br />
<br />
* Build [[Image:MoMo-UpLink-200903.png|140px|thumb|Total Network Traffic]] [[Image:MoMo-Network-200903.png|140px|thumb|Traffic out of one webserver]] [[Image:MoMo-Requests-200903.png|140px|thumb|Requests/sec out of one webserver]]<br />
** Alpha*/Beta1 => Beta2 Updates released!<br />
** Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 releases<br />
*** 83% of thunderbird users have updated to 2.0.0.21 (in 5 days)<br />
** Clobberer fixups complete, working and available across the board<br />
** Try Server<br />
*** Patches complete, up for review (frontend/backend)<br />
*** We will run our own try server until MoCo picks up on the changes<br />
*** Amazon EC2 for Linux/Win32 builders is possible<br />
*** Successfully produced a Linux try build on EC2<br />
*** Building proper Linux/Win32 refplatform AMIs is next<br />
*** OSX Will have to remain self-hosted, unfortunately.<br />
<br />
* Web<br />
** Ever increasing traffic, since Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 release<br />
** MoCo updated content on mozillamessaging.com for 2.0.0.21 themselves.<br />
** Fielding an average of 3.1 <strong>millions</strong> requests <strong>per hour</strong> in the last 24 hours<br />
<br />
* Infrastructure <br />
** VMWare infrastructure<br />
*** Putting together a hardware plan that would quadruple our capacity<br />
** Vancouver office move complete<br />
*** [http://www.novusnow.ca Novus] rocks!<br />
*** Phones work *much* better now<br />
<br />
===== clarkbw =====<br />
<br />
===== wsmwk =====<br />
<br />
===== beckley =====<br />
<br />
====== Penelope ======<br />
<br />
* Got Linux debug symbols for Eudora 8 beta 5 up on the crash server and they are working fine. Due to a build issue, Mac symbols won't be up until the next release.<br />
<br />
* Changed the async filter code to use C++ interfaces for callbacks, and sent that to bienvenu for comment.<br />
<br />
* Looked in to {{bug|471399}}, which appears to be a problem with importing from Classic Eudora. I can get the symptoms to reproduce, but not the original importing problem. I will be writing up some notes in the bug today.<br />
<br />
===== KaiRo =====<br />
<br />
===== rkent =====<br />
<br />
===== rebron =====<br />
<br />
This Week:<br />
* Get through backlog of GetSatisfaction questions. <br />
* Nail down Add-ons upgrade plan.<br />
<br />
===== Tsk =====<br />
*Done :<br />
** Worked on getting stat while compiling with gcov options<br />
** Bug triagge<br />
<br />
*Continuing:<br />
** QA plan <br />
** Engaging communities<br />
<br />
* Todo:<br />
** explain what and why QA is important - to try to get w few more people onboard<br />
** Plan tb3.0b3 testing<br />
** add jscoverage to get coverage more Green.<br />
<br />
===== andreasn =====<br />
<br />
* Fought SIP apps.<br />
<br />
* Done:<br />
** Search icon: bug 484166<br />
** Remote images icon: bug 484179<br />
<br />
* In progress:<br />
** Folder pane: bug 483759<br />
** Message overview pane: bug 483761<br />
** Compose window: bug 483777<br />
** New icon concept for contact starring: bug 484409<br />
** Tab appearance: bug 484395<br />
** Smileys: bug 484800<br />
** Address book icons<br />
<br />
* Todo:<br />
** Message pane<br />
** Icon overlay concept<br />
** Blog post on theming once more stuff land in trunk.<br />
** Application icons: bug 484064<br />
<br />
=== Attendees ===<br />
<br />
__NOTOC__</div>Beckleyhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-03-17&diff=134307Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-03-172009-03-17T16:30:21Z<p>Beckley: /* beckley */</p>
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'''Thunderbird Meeting Details''' : <br />
<br />
* [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=03&day=17&hour=16&min=30&sec=0 Tuesday, Mar 17th, 16:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)<br />
* [[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]<br />
<br />
== Agenda ==<br />
<br />
* Who's taking minutes? --> '''Ludovic'''<br />
* [http://ascher.ca/thunderbird/minutes_schedule.html Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.<br />
<br />
=== Action Items ===<br />
<br />
==== New ====<br />
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==== Open ====<br />
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==== Closed ====<br />
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=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b3|Thunderbird 3 Beta 3]] ===<br />
<br />
* Everyone (except component drivers) with bugs in the 3.0b3 bugs in NEW state, please do one of the following with your bugs by 23:59 Thursday, Pacific time:<br />
** move your bugs to the ASSIGNED state to indicate that you agree to be on the hook for doing the implementation work (and think you'll have the time to do so)<br />
** re-assign to nobody@mozilla.org with a comment asking for drivers to find someone else <br />
<br />
* Proposed Freezes ( ''All dates use time of 23:59 PST'' )<br />
** Slushy String freeze date: 2009-04-24<br />
** Slushy Code Freeze date: 2009-04-26<br />
** Firm String / Code freeze date: 2009-04-28<br />
** l10n-mozilla-1.9.1 freeze date: 2009-04-30<br />
** Target Build Ship date: 2009-05-05<br />
<br />
* dmose is release driver<br />
* gozer is build engineer<br />
<br />
* Blockers/Wanted<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 80<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 24<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux] 31<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (b3)|blocking-thunderbird3%3F|---|Thunderbird%203.0b3&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b3}} 2<br />
* Fixed:<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 30 (+9)<br />
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b3 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b3}} 7 (+1)<br />
<br />
* Five weekly milestones ([[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b3#Milestones|[m1] - [m5]]]) have been created to help spread out [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&sharer_id=1537 b3ux feature work] across the milestone and avoid lots of hard landings / misses at the end of the cycle.<br />
** mail will be sent to b3ux bug owners asking them to spread those bugs across the milestones<br />
** [m1] is one week from today<br />
<br />
=== Thunderbird 3 ===<br />
<br />
* davida now driving Tb3 so that dmose can focus on driving 3.0b3<br />
* [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap]]<br />
* Blockers<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+] 125 (+5)<br />
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=tb3needs&sharer_id=1537 TB 3 Needs]: 4 (+1)<br />
* Proposed Blocking<br />
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 16 (0)<br />
<br />
* Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.<br />
* If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don't want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.<br />
<br />
=== QA Updates ===<br />
* [http://tinyurl.com/dzzwur in-testsuite?] 34 bugs without a test and with the ? flag set.<br />
* in-testsuite not used enough?<br />
** what are the criteria?<br />
** when is the right time to ask, and who asks?<br />
* Bug day<br />
<br />
=== Marketing Updates ===<br />
* TB 2.0.0.21 shipping tomorrow.<br />
* Budgeting and planning work for the remainder of the year.<br />
* Evaluating proposals from GetSatisfaction. Getting about 5 to 6 new questions a day.<br />
<br />
=== Roundtable ===<br />
<br />
'''Reminder''': Google Summer of Code<br />
<br />
* [http://code.google.com/soc/ Google Page]<br />
* [[Community:SummerOfCode09:Brainstorming|Brainstorming page]]<br />
* [[Community:SummerOfCode09|Projects with confirmed mentors]]<br />
<br />
Students start discussing ideas on 18th March, start applying on 23rd March.<br />
<br />
Shark builds (nth10sd)<br />
* Firefox now builds Shark nightlies on Mac automatically for performance profiling - should we do so too?<br />
<br />
==== Status Updates ====<br />
<br />
===== davida =====<br />
<br />
===== dmose =====<br />
* Last Week<br />
** Goals<br />
*** draft 3.0b3 weekly milestone plan (done)<br />
*** finish message-header patch (significant progress; not done)<br />
*** 1/hr day code review (partial; not done)<br />
*** draft SF space plan (not done)<br />
** Non-goal activities<br />
*** Lots of driving<br />
*** Got sick<br />
<br />
* This week<br />
** Goals<br />
*** land message-header patch<br />
*** 1 hr/day code reviews<br />
*** draft SF space plan<br />
*** drive weekly milestone work<br />
<br />
===== nth10sd =====<br />
<br />
* Patchlove - setting old patches as obsolete if they bitrotted or r-'ed.<br />
* QA, bugdays, etc.<br />
<br />
===== Standard8 =====<br />
<br />
* Reviews<br />
* {{bug|450134}} Autocomplete perf improvement now in the code.<br />
* {{Bug|330320}} Restart using "Collected Addresses" AB for collected addresses.<br />
* Started fleshing out design and UI for {{Bug|457296}} - Separating out remote image settings from the address book.<br />
* Started investigating hooking up the UI for the interactive status bar ({{Bug|476487}}.<br />
<br />
* Goals for this week:<br />
** {{Bug|440794}} Leverage Offline capabilities to make sending email appear faster<br />
*** Get policy implemented for auto-send (initial turned off by default).<br />
** {{Bug|476487}} Interactive Status Bar<br />
*** Hook up new status bar to activity manager, get at least an initial version implemented.<br />
** {{Bug|457296}} Remote Images<br />
*** Get initial design up for review.<br />
<br />
===== asuth =====<br />
<br />
* extensive JS mime emitter refactoring, unit tests added<br />
* gloda search<br />
* storage support<br />
* and more!<br />
<br />
===== bienvenu =====<br />
* Reviews and driving<br />
* Fixed test case and landed asuth's view grouping fixes<br />
* Got picking an existing smtp server working with autoconfig.<br />
* Changed autoconfig to default to leave on servers w/ 14 day aging for pop3<br />
* Fixed offline store code not to include dummy envelope and x-mozilla-status lines, add unit test for compacting offline stores, {{bug|381472}}<br />
* Fixed problem where we lose tags on imap servers that claim not to support keywords but set them, {{bug|370440}}<br />
* Landed {{bug|482059}} on trunk, change verifyLogon not to discover imap mailboxes so later url will discover them.<br />
* Worked on {{bug|482477}}, ability to hide accounts, for use with smart mailboxes<br />
<br />
Next week's goals<br />
* Continue work on autoconfig; make sure I can create all my accounts via autoconfig<br />
* Continue work on smart mailboxes<br />
* Work on other b3+ bugs<br />
<br />
===== gozer =====<br />
<br />
* Build<br />
** Try Server support for non mozilla-central builds<br />
*** My test setup is working, building Firefox/Thunderbird with patches<br />
*** Front-end patches completed and up for review<br />
*** Back-end patches (buildbot) working, need cleanup before review<br />
<br />
* Web<br />
** New website<br />
*** Daily hits stabilizing around 2 millions/day, looking steady now, growth seems to have stopped<br />
*** avg of 12,712 unique daily visits to the 3.0b2 Start page in the last week<br />
*** 57k unique visits to the 3.0b2 Start page in the last week <br />
<br />
* Infrastructure<br />
** Vancouver office moving today<br />
** Planning for our hardware growth<br />
** EC2<br />
*** Looking into running buildbot slaves on EC2<br />
*** I want to build a public linux mozilla RefPlatform AMI so anybody can use them<br />
*** Would be a very nice solution for try builds<br />
<br />
===== clarkbw =====<br />
<br />
===== wsmwk =====<br />
<br />
===== beckley =====<br />
<br />
====== Penelope ======<br />
<br />
* Got symbols for Eudora 8b5 up on the Mozilla symbol server. Tested the Crash Me extension and it all works fine. Just Windows for now, Mac and Linux will be coming later.<br />
<br />
* Made a fix for {{bug|466330}}, but it's unclear on what the correct behavior is. Waiting for ui-review from clarkbw.<br />
<br />
* Some progress on async filter actions. Sent a preliminary patch to bienvenu, and he gave some good feedback on better ways to handle callbacks.<br />
<br />
===== KaiRo =====<br />
* Reviews and discussion in {{bug|482686}} (switching client.py to pull venkman from hg)<br />
* Review on {{bug|478229}} (buildbot step abstraction to share more code between buildbots for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, etc.)<br />
* Spotted mailnews compile failure with Qt port, filed as {{bug|482312}} (trying to compile this is just a fun experiment I do from time to time)<br />
* Did some investigation and discussion of JS perf decreases with JS debuggers (both venkman and ChromeBug) due to currently needed early init of internal JSD debugging stuff, solutions are being worked on now.<br />
* Prepared for SeaMonkey 1.1.15 release in parallel to Thunderbird 2.0.0.21<br />
<br />
===== rkent =====<br />
<br />
===== rebron =====<br />
<br />
===== Tsk =====<br />
*Done :<br />
** Worked on QA plan<br />
** Gave love to bugzilla<br />
<br />
*Continuing:<br />
** QA plan <br />
** Engaging communities<br />
<br />
* Todo:<br />
** Try to communicate more effectively<br />
** explain what and why QA is important - to try to get w few more people onboard<br />
** Plan tb3.0b3 testing<br />
<br />
===== andreasn =====<br />
<br />
* Became familiar with DOM inspector. Learned how and where to change things.<br />
* Created a overlay on what needed fixing and discussed the needed changes with clarkbw.<br />
* discussions with Tango designers (lapo, monreal, sgarrity)<br />
<br />
* Done:<br />
** Preference window icons<br />
** Firefox spinner<br />
** Delete button<br />
<br />
* In progress:<br />
** Folder pane: {{bug|483759}}<br />
** Message overview pane: {{bug|483761}}<br />
** Compose window: {{bug|483777}}<br />
** New icon concept for contact starring: in progress<br />
** Icon overlay concept: in progress<br />
<br />
* Todo:<br />
** Message pane<br />
** Tab appearance<br />
** Address book<br />
<br />
=== Attendees ===<br />
<br />
__NOTOC__</div>Beckley