Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2008-10-21

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Thunderbird Meeting Details

• Tuesday, Oct 21, 16:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)
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Agenda

• Who's taking minutes? --> clarkbw
• Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.

Calls For Help

• davida would appreciate assistance on the autoconfiguration branch. (The awesome create-a-new-account screen where you just enter your e-mail address and it figures out most/all of the details for you.) One particular area that could use assistance is handling certificates in the connection detection logic.

Action Items

New

• davida: needs to identify the major work items for thunderbird 3 and break them down by the beta/release they will be in.
• From the Alpha 3 post-mortem (individuals should take your own items and go through them):
  • bienvenu: Pick an intermediate milestone for landing most of the big items. Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b1
  • sipaq: Document details on what should happen before, during and after the string freeze, and the effects on developers at the relevant times.
  • wsmwk: Put up tracking bug for issues from releases during litmus tests.
  • wsmwk: Need to define what tests (e.g. smoketests/basic functional/unit tests etc) should go where and where they are filed.
  • standard8: Generate some gristmill example scripts, and encourage others to use gristmill and file bugs to help improve it.
  • standard8: Send mail to release-drivers, do we need some overall cleanup of relnote bugs?
  • tb-drivers: Go through current MailNews/TB relnote bugs and work out what is really necessary.

Open

• From the Alpha 3 post-mortem:
  • davida: Major items for beta 1 to be nailed down asap
    • much of this is done
• dmose: drive JS-in-mail discussion
• davida: will escalate issue of separate messaging crash-stats server

Closed

• From the Alpha 3 post-mortem:
  • gozer: Ensure there is a bug for server-side Mac Symbols not working for intel builds. bug 459397
  • standard8: File bugs for
    • hook php generation into builds (file sizes/locales list). bug 460761
    • Check product-details interaction with mozillamessaging site. bug 460759
  • standard8: File a bug for beta 1 start page and attach files we were going to do for last release. bug 460763
• gozer pinged mrz about separate messaging crash-stats server, davida escalation still open
• dmose did another round of updates on reviewers; see newsgroup discussion

Thunderbird 3 Beta 1

• bienvenu is release driver
• gozer is build engineer
• Proposed String freeze date: 2008-11-13
• Code Freeze date: 2008-11-18

• davida will identify the must-absolutely-have items for beta 1 (part of the new action item planning what must happen by when)
  • Proposed intermediate target (to prevent everything either landing at the end or missing) for major items: Friday, October 31
    • GloDa
      • Definitely land with the pref turning it off, ideally with it turned on
    • AutoConfig
      • Definitely land as an additional menu item, not yet replacing account wizard
    • Kill-RDF
      • SeaMonkey note: need to land ASAP as it may cause problems
    • Cross-folder views

Thunderbird 3

• Draft Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap identifies major work items on the plate for Tb3 -- much of it needs scheduling, owning, breakdown.
  • folks interested in helping with front-end stuff, some simple, should ask in #maildev

QA Updates

• crash stats
  • no recent Mac crashes from any recent builds
  • topcrash queries still being worked, but looks like they are close(?)
• bugday last week 10-16 and this week 10-23 continue focus on dupeme bugs. chart
• notable:
  • several comments seen saying stability of 3.0a3 is good
  • Tightening up branch releases in m.d.planning

Roundtable

rkent

getting review time is increasingly a problem

Status Updates

dmose

• made another update pass through the mail & mailnews module owners
• a bunch of calendar diagnosis work
• reviewed aimScreenName regressions (bug 413260)
• corresponded with LookOut author re ongoing work
• proofread/edited Thunderbird interview for publishing
• more FSOSS talk prep
• more GloDa review
• driving work
• at Toronto office / speaking at FSOSS conference the rest of this week

nth10sd

QA'ed initial Lightning_on_Thunderbird_by_default fun:

• bug 460403 - "ASSERTION: null monitor: 'mMonitor'"
• bug 460405 - "ASSERTION: Expected only one call!: '!gCallCount++'"
• bug 460406 - "ASSERTION: can't get xpt search path"
• bug 460408 - Shutdown crash at nsXPConnect::GetRuntime()
• bug 460409 - Replace "undefined" with something else

Patch:

• bug 459000 - Address book comment cleanup

(I'll be posting my JS efforts here since JS whether in mail or not, does seem interesting.)

• bug 458679 - potential Javascript crash exploit
• bug 460642 - TM assertion

Standard8

• Reviews & Driving
  • Warning: there are several large patches outstanding on my review queue, reviews for big patches may be slow.
• Helping gozer with getting bloat tests set up.
• Finished up alpha 3 stuff (post-mortem).
• Password Manager
  • Written some test cases for existing password manager code, will be using to ensure everything is correct when we migrate.
  • Also pushed some patches to the qaserver] for standalone pop3 & smtp server.
    • Considering using variant of this for extending bloat test code.
• Misc
  • bug 459784 Fixed Error: uncaught exception: 2147500034, and switch the default commandline handler to use XPCOMUtils.jsm

asuth

(will not be on the call)

• gloda refactoring/architecture-change implementation completed, just debugging and tying up loose ends.
  • need to get exptoolbar/thunderbar happy with the new code
  • need to mark existing review items that the refactoring resolved as fixed, plus try and resolve other easily resolved issues. then help drive in to the trunk, initially disabled.
• some testing/debugging to ensure resilience and that we don't leak memory/resources hang on shutdown.

bienvenu

• Reviews and Driving
• 1.8.1.18 patch landed
• Cross-folder threading patch under review bug 379806
• Kill-rdf repo making progress - SeaMonkey folks are investigating the impact on SeaMonkey.
• Fixed some corrupt message thread issues, bug 457052

emre

• Worked on
  • bug 457342: Error handling improvement in auto-sync: in review
  • bug 547452: Leaking on shutdown problem: in review
  • bug 440794: Async send: Work in progress
  • bug 257942: Work in progress, learning a lot about XBL, and XUL. Planning to have the first working demo by the end of this week.

gozer

• Web
  • Lots of setup work for spreadthunderbird.com

• Build
  • Leak testing looking good, got Linux & OS X builders up on MozillaTest
    • Ready to move them to the Thunderbird tinderbox tree?
    • Graph Server support should be possible
  • Sunbird nightlies should have self-update starting tonight
  • hg.mozilla.org problems have caused a lot of breakage this week
    • Investigating a way to run our own, safer, hg clone to avoid this

• Systems
  • Vancouver office has it's own dedicated server
    • Will become the office phone server among other things, stay tuned.
    • Still needs configuring, but it's running
    • It's under David's desk
  • Mozilla Messaging top-level svn area on svn.mozilla.org
    • Still need moving the corporate site content in there

clarkbw

• Leaving Thursday the 23rd for EU_MozCamp_2008
  • Working from Barcelona for a few days during the week
  • Will be back in Vancouver on night of Wednesday the 29th
• Working on
  • Search Results
  • Activity Manager
• Spent a lot of time looking into space management issues w/ POP3

wsmwk

• bug triage
  • reviewed all OS=windows server bugs
  • reviewed confirmed dataloss bugs - most or all "well defined" bugs are in the blocking-thunderbird3 list as approved - which is great!
  • still working profile bugs
• 3.0a3 post mortem meeting
• bugday

beckley

Penelope

• 0.5 beta of Eudora 8 near:
  • Synced to TB 3.0a3 source code
  • Mac dmg background image updated to work with Applications alias
  • Auto-naming filters almost complete: bug 457745
  • A couple of importing bugs fixed:
    • bug 452296: Old sent box not imported after updating Eudora
    • bug 460929: Eudora migration doesn't show items being imported

rebron

• Continued work with spreadthunderbird. See progress at: stage.spreadthunderbird.com Big thanks to gozer for the server support and jamey, paul, and ken for cranking out the design and web site elements.
• Continuing work with web site redesign. Completed second round of design reviews and finalizing designs and will be going into design production.
• PR activities.

mkmelin

• minor cleanup bugs bug 185940, bug 375880, bug 381659
• some reviews
• landed bug 459286: gtk stock icons for thunderbird menu items

Attendees

dmose, Standard8, bienvenu, emre, gozer, clarkbw, wsmwk, beckley, rkent, rebron, mkmelin, sipaq