Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-03-10

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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

• Tuesday, Mar 10th, 16:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern) Changed UTC time
• How to dial-in

Agenda

• Who's taking minutes? --> bienvenu
• Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.

Thunderbird 3 Beta 3

• Proposed Freezes ( All dates use time of 23:59 PST )
  • Slushy String freeze date: 2009-04-24
  • Slushy Code Freeze date: 2009-04-26
  • Firm String / Code freeze date: 2009-04-28
  • l10n-mozilla-1.9.1 freeze date: 2009-04-30
  • Target Build Ship date: 2009-05-05

• dmose is release driver
• gozer is build engineer

• Blockers/Wanted
  • TB 3.0b3 - blocking
  • TB 3.0b3 - wanted
• Proposed Blocking
  • Proposed Blockers (b3)
• Fixed:
  • TB 3.0b3 - blocking: 21 (+7)
  • TB 3.0b3 - wanted: 6 (+2)

• We want to work on user experience bugs first so we can iterate on them https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&namedcmd=b3ux

Thunderbird 3

• davida driving now to allow dmose to focus on 3.0b3
• Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap
• Blockers
  • blocking-thunderbird3+ 120 (+5)
  • TB 3 Needs: 3 (-1)
• Proposed Blocking
  • Proposed Blockers (all): 16 (-1)

• Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.
• If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don't want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.

QA Updates

• Testing updates for releases prior to beta2
• Organized a DUPME bug day -> 10 bugs got changes on the dupme query
• Will continue with bugdays until we have a better schedule for beta 3.
• Hope we will be able to update prior releases to beta2 in oreder to figure out what is crashig in beta2.
• Working on figuring out how to get more end-users involved in testing.
• Trying to get all major linux distro's supported.

Marketing Updates

• Tb3 beta 2 press roundup
• Met with the GetSatisfaction team and working through details of how to best utilize their service.
• For PR purposes, it's best to shoot for release Tu-early Th.

Roundtable

Google Summer of Code

• Google Page
• Brainstorming page
• Projects with confirmed mentors

Please add your suggestions to the brainstorming page, doesn't matter if you don't want to be a mentor, ideas are the important part at this stage. Remember it needs to be about an 8-week chunk.

Students start discussing ideas on 18th March, start applying on 23rd March.

Gozer worked with Mozilla release to figure out how to upgrade TB 3 b1 users to b2 and we just need to do some testing before triggering the upgrade.

Wayne suggested we might want to update the release notes w/ issues found after b2 shipped.

Status Updates

davida

• missed his flight, so really grumpy.

dmose

• lots of driving work
  • drafted 3.0b3 schedule and strawman tb3 schedule
• message-header patch work
• gloda review work (should finish this week!)

goals for this week:

• draft 3.0b3 sub-milestones
• draft SF space plan
• 1 hr/day code-reviews
• finish message-header patch

nth10sd

• bug 326483 - create sample email for test; seems WFM.
  • Won't Save Incoming Mail Attachment if Chinese file name
• bug 460605 - Initial testing done, waiting on more info.
  • Message Reader: header pane context menu popup takes too long for contacts in long list with lots of addresses
• Some security bug triage.
• Bugdays, QA, etc.

Standard8

• Reviews
• Bug triage
• Activity Manager
  • bug 477862 Activity Manager: activity list doesn't clear permanently until restart.
  • bug 482253 Fix Activity Manager's themes so that text can be read when window is not focused, and make it easier for themes to be applied across all activity types.
  • bug 481431 Provide a centralised alert/message service in mailnews to allow different front-end displays for alerts.
  • bug 482466 Hook activity manager into the new alert/error listening mechanism.
• Misc
  • bug 479844 Consolidate checking for messages to send later into one function.

Two week goals:

• Reduce review backlog to zero
• bug 450134 - Autocomplete perf improvement (inc restore autocomplete on other email addresses).
  • Proposed a patch for this, got review comments, need to improve.
• bug 440794 - Implement policy for sending in background, pref off to begin with.
  • Defferred due to activity manager improvements (and heading towards non-modal alerts).
• bug 457296 - Design interfaces for a separate service (i.e. not directly linked to address book) to determine allowing remote images to load or not.
  • Initial design for back-end posted.
  • Need to figure out storage mechanism.
  • Have ideas for Pref UI changes.

bienvenu

• Reviews and driving
• Made some progress on autoconfig in separate repo, fixed windows and mac themes, fixed initial folder discovery, etc.
• allow setMsgWindow on mailnews url to null out msg window, and fix nntp code not to accidentally clear msg window bug 481198
• make auto sync use IMAP STATUS command to check if a folder has changed instead of SELECT bug 428266
• Fixed for crash in mailbox discovery bug 376192
• Fixed crash on startup when imap server sends list response with trailing delimiter (not /) bug 480870
• Set up new development machine

Next Week

• Make autoconfig handle duplicate smtp servers, and other autoconfig repo
• More work on smart mailboxes patch.
• Drive asuth's view patch in

gozer

• Build
  • Try server (in progress)
  • Betatest updates ready for Alpha*/Beta1 => Beta2 bug 471584
    • Complete updates all around except for 3.0b1 Linux/Mac en-US
    • Learned a lot more about patcher!
    • When/How do we go live with this ?
  • Clobberer server! (gozer/Standard8 have access, if you want it too, file a bug)

• Web
  
  • New website got a few performance fixups and tweaks
    • Saw > 2,200,000 hits in the last 24 hours
    • avg of 10,710 unique daily visits to the 3.0b2 Start page in the last week
    • 65k unique visits to the 3.0b2 Start page in the last week

• Infrastructure
  • Buildbot timeouts issues look like they have finally vanished beyond the 'acceptable' horizon
    • bug 476677 & bug 476649
    • Various fixes, mostly about giving Buildbot more/faster I/O

80% recovered from the sick... better

clarkbw

• worked on hiring, and other miscellaneous things
• 1-2 week goal for landing autoconfig is usefully aggressive.

wsmwk

• bugs resolved: 21
• bugday
• updated irc instructions
• posting in mozillazine and mozilla.feedback.thunderbird.prerelease
• still pushing on crash-stats performance

beckley

Penelope

• bug 481855 review accepted
• bug 480899 needs some more work
• I've been looking in to how to support filter actions that detach attachments from the message, and discussing this with bienvenu. This may require a modification to the filter code to allow asynchronous filter actions.

rkent

My mailnews work has focused recently on three primary activity threads:

• Bayesian filter feature extensions, including more precise control of application, and use with rss and nntp
  • bug 478840 (landed) Support inherited folder properties
  • bug 481676 (in review) Move bayes listeners to nsMsgDBFolder
  • bug 471833 (next) Provide hooks to control calculation of bayesian filter traits
• Prevent loss of message database information
  • bug 459680 (partial solution in review) Moves and copies should move all database info
  • bug 340886 (not started) Junk status changes to "unknown" when I delete or separate an attachment
• Search all address fields capability
  • bug 310359 (parent, partial solution landed) search all address fields capability (Bcc:s too!)
  • bug 381667 (in review) Support BCC in message summary files
  • (unfiled) add BCC to All Messages search
  • (unfiled) support reordering of message search terms
  • (unfiled) support all message search in online IMAP search

I'm largely review limited at the moment, which I expect to get continually worse, so I think I only have another couple of weeks of mailnews patches before I can pretty much kiss further TB3 work goodbye.

rebron

• Competitive analysis work of other messaging clients/services.
• Evaluating Add-on contest for Thunderbird.

Tsk

• Done :
  • DUPME event - not satisfied by results
  • Attended MozCamp/Utrecht
    • Met a few interested people
    • Once STEEL's out we should attend Extension Workshop

• Continuing:
  • QA plan
  • Engaging communities

• Todo:
  • Try to communicate more effectively
  • explain what and why QA is important - to try to get w few more people onboard
  • Plan tb3.0b3 testing

Attendees

bienvenu, dmose, standard8, gozer, clarkbw, ludovic, rebron, wsmwk, beckley, kairo, nth10sd