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[http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/about/press/archive/2009-12-08-01 Released last Tuesday]
[http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/about/press/archive/2009-12-08-01 Released last Tuesday]
Some random download stats from the [http://download.mozilla.org/rss/download-counts.php download.m.o counter] (only a part of the downloads, not sure how representative):
* Thunderbird-3.0 --- 1,156,131
* Thunderbird-3.0-Complete --- 912,214
* Thunderbird --- 5,194,344


=== Thunderbird 3.1 Developer Update ===
=== Thunderbird 3.1 Developer Update ===
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* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Dmose/Tb_Post-3.1_Scratchpad Post 3.1 Roadmap]
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Dmose/Tb_Post-3.1_Scratchpad Post 3.1 Roadmap]
* Tb 3.1 cycle specifics
* Tb 3.1 cycle specifics
* Codename: Lanakai
* More branches and work on branches
* More branches and work on branches
* Feedback on schedule for 3.next is wanted.
* Feedback on schedule for 3.next is wanted.
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| style="background: rgb(239, 239, 239) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | # of crash
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| style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | Unassigned [tb30xwants]
| {{Bug|519962}}  
| {{Bug|519962}}  
| _purecall | nsPrefBranch::freeObserverList() | nsPrefBranch::Observe(nsISupports*, char const*, unsigned short const*)  
| _purecall | nsPrefBranch::freeObserverList() | nsPrefBranch::Observe(nsISupports*, char const*, unsigned short const*)  
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| style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | assigned
| style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" | Assigned patch pending review
| {{bug|513543}}  
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| MimeInlineTextHTML_parse_eof  
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=== Marketing Updates  ===
=== Marketing Updates  ===
* PR update - many articles, mostly positive pick up
** 68 original articles from Dec 8 - 10.  193 total US articles, 135 original since November.
*** [http://blogs.computerworld.com/15221/thunderbird_is_go Computerworld], [http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/7525/our-hands-on-look-at-mozilla-thunderbird-3.0/ HowtoGeek], [http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/184073/mozillas_thunderbird_email_client_comes_with_tabs.html PCWorld]
** 32 original articles in Germany for Thunderbird 3 release
** 13 original in the UK
** 20 original in Japan
** [http://delicious.com/txt100FF/thunderbird?page=1 over 30 in France]
Next up
* Evaluating press articles.
* Party planning - 3rd/4th week of January for release party.


=== IT update  ===
=== IT update  ===
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* Calendar 1.0b1
* Calendar 1.0b1
* TB 3.0 AUS pings yesterday: > 162k
* TB 3.0 AUS pings yesterday: > 162k
* SuMoMo trunk has all wanted features working


=== Documentation ===
=== Documentation ===
Done
* set up build environment
* edit and link up gloda docs; clean up crufty old stuff
* fix for [https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Extensions/Thunderbird/HowTos/Common_Thunderbird_Extension_Techniques/Get_Thunderbird_version Get Thunderbird version] how-to
* fix for [https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Extensions/Thunderbird/HowTos/Common_Thunderbird_Use_Cases/Compose_New_Message Compose New Message] how-to
* (ongoing) Mission control / autoconfig (also new issue with documenting prefs)
TODO / In Progress
* Doc day on Thursday - announce and set up
* finalize / blog Content Tab docs
* support doc locations ([https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521665 521665])


=== Support ===
=== Support ===
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# Thunderbird 3.0 Top Support Issues  
# Thunderbird 3.0 Top Support Issues  
## [http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/topics/kaspersky_anti_spam_extension_causing_blank_window_problems_with_thunderbird_3_upgrade Kaspersky DLL and KPT issue causes blank windows after upgrade from TB 2 to 3] - email to Carsten and Mark and Sam sent, not sure who is in charge of Kaspersky, is it Jonathan? awaiting reply to email
## [http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/topics/kaspersky_anti_spam_extension_causing_blank_window_problems_with_thunderbird_3_upgrade Kaspersky DLL and KPT issue causes blank windows after upgrade from TB 2 to 3] - email to Carsten and Mark and Sam sent, not sure who is in charge of Kaspersky, is it Jonathan? awaiting reply to email
## Add-Ons: Where is Lightning?
## Compact Header
## Compact Header
## [http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/topics/thunderbird_2_to_3_0_upgrade_unable_to_authenticate_to_smtp_server_uncheck_use_name_and_password_for_that_server Untick use name and userid]
## [http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/topics/thunderbird_2_to_3_0_upgrade_unable_to_authenticate_to_smtp_server_uncheck_use_name_and_password_for_that_server Untick use name and password]
## 4GB Gmail issue - Bienvenu working on fix for Thunderbird 3.1
## 4GB Gmail issue - Bienvenu working on fix for Thunderbird 3.1
## duplicate folders after TB2 to TB3 upgrade
## opening IMAP text attachments is broken
# SUMO for MoMo  
# SUMO for MoMo  
## theming really done this week
## theming really done this week now that all functionality is working
## still need people to write kb articles - [http://blogs.mozillamessaging.com/roland/2009/11/30/call-for-sumomo-writers/ sign up to write a SuMoMo article today :-)]
## still need people to write kb articles - [http://blogs.mozillamessaging.com/roland/2009/11/30/call-for-sumomo-writers/ sign up to write a SuMoMo article today :-)]
# TB 3.0 Lessons learned for 3.1 Support
# TB 3.0 Lessons learned for 3.1 Support
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## Met with GS team in San Francisco last week and shared our ideas for GS improvements, most critical is split/close, will post wiki page with followup
## Met with GS team in San Francisco last week and shared our ideas for GS improvements, most critical is split/close, will post wiki page with followup
## GS branding will be done this week, thanks to Gozer for code inspecting
## GS branding will be done this week, thanks to Gozer for code inspecting
## [[Thunderbird/Support/Workflow|GS Workflow aka How to do support in progress]]
## [[Thunderbird/Support/Workflow|GS Workflow aka How to do support - draft in progress]]
# Key Support stats from the following graphic:
# Key Support stats from the following graphic:
## approximately 105/ day (734/7 new topics 3.6x higher than week of Dec 1, # of visitors 15X higher: 30000 compared to 2000)
## approximately 105/ day (734/7 new topics 3.6x higher than week of Dec 1, # of visitors 15X higher: 30000 compared to 2000)
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* [http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/weekly-updates.fcgi/project/thunderbird bsmedberg's weekly update webapp]
* [http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/weekly-updates.fcgi/project/thunderbird bsmedberg's weekly update webapp]
* update from the all-hands?
* need volunteer for checkin-needed


==== Status Updates  ====
==== Status Updates  ====
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===== wsmwk  =====
===== wsmwk  =====
* 2 new people with bug privileges
* reviewing dataloss bugs: [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=dataloss;chfieldto=2009-12-16;query_format=advanced;keywords_type=allwords;chfieldfrom=8d;emaillongdesc1=1;email1=vseerror%40lehigh.edu;product=MailNews%20Core;product=Thunderbird;product=Toolkit;emailtype1=substring done/started (27)], [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=dataloss;keywords_type=allwords;emaillongdesc1=1;resolution=---;emailtype1=substring;query_format=advanced;email1=vseerror%40lehigh.edu;product=MailNews%20Core;product=Thunderbird;product=Toolkit lots more to do(108)]
* triage incoming 3.x bugs via whine reports focusing on major, critical, crash


===== beckley  =====
===== beckley  =====


====== Penelope  ======
====== Penelope  ======
* Gloda integration in to Search Messages window not going well, and is backed out for next beta
* Eudora 8.0b8/Penelope 0.5a5 builds made and being tested, with hopes of release later this week


===== KaiRo  =====
===== KaiRo  =====
* Upgraded SeaMonkey build machines to current buildbot and buildbotcustom
** Patched one issue with general comm-* builds in new buildbotcustom, should go in this week, things should be usable for Thunderbird as well, then.
* Releasing SeaMonkey 2.0.1 today, in sync with Firefox 3.5.6


===== rkent  =====
===== rkent  =====
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===== andreasn  =====
===== andreasn  =====
Done:
* More lightning icons {{bug|494598}}
* Thunderbird 3.0.1 bugs fixes {{bug|526193}}, {{bug|516586}}, {{bug|531140}}
* Fighting hardware issues
Todo:
* Fighting bugs
* Additional lightning polish
* Start adding stuff to netbook meta bug {{bug|533875}}
* Look into {{bug|533342}} and {{bug|534267}}


===== bwinton =====
===== bwinton =====
Last week:
* Review {{bug|518315}}, {{bug|530721}}, {{bug|521173}}, {{bug|522251}}, {{bug|534741}}, and {{bug|530047}}.
* Work on {{bug|525070}}, and post the code to the extension.
* Post a patch for {{bug|533360}}.
* Talk about netbooks.
* Suggest marks for the students working on ISDPB.
Next week:
* More ISPDB driving.
* Start an extension for some of the netbook changes.
* Continue my ReplyMode extension.
* Say hello to next term's students, and help them get started.


===== roland =====
===== roland =====
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===== Fallen =====
===== Fallen =====
* Lightning 1.0b1rc1 is ready, will be released asap.
* Sunbird repacks fail on all platforms, gozer will take a look
* Looking for more channels to make the beta rc1 public
* Next up: check in and have patches reviewed to fix burning on trunk
* Exams in about a month


===== jcranmer =====
===== jcranmer =====

Latest revision as of 08:16, 18 December 2009

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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

Agenda

Action Items

New

Open

  • Planning for a dry-run security firedrill build

Closed

Friends of the Tree

Thunderbird 3.0

Released last Tuesday

Some random download stats from the download.m.o counter (only a part of the downloads, not sure how representative):

  • Thunderbird-3.0 --- 1,156,131
  • Thunderbird-3.0-Complete --- 912,214
  • Thunderbird --- 5,194,344

Thunderbird 3.1 Developer Update

Thunderbird 3.0.x Developer Update

QA Updates

  • TB 3.0 released
  • Top reported issues :
    • Duplicate folder after migrations from 2.x bug 505465
    • Issue with the way we do auth for some SMTP confs, also after migration from 2.x
    • Can't open text files bug 533462
  • Bug filled are going up a bit.


status bug summary # of crash
Unassigned [tb30xwants] bug 519962 _purecall | nsPrefBranch::freeObserverList() | nsPrefBranch::Observe(nsISupports*, char const*, unsigned short const*) 1445
Assigned Patch in review bug 505717 EscapeFromSpaceLine(nsIOutputStream*, char*, char const*) 1204
No signature bug
 1100
Assigned patch pending review bug 513543 MimeInlineTextHTML_parse_eof 853
Unassigned bug 505016 _purecall | nsXPCWrappedJS::QueryInterface(nsID const&, void**) 773

concerned by some sqlite related crashers.

Marketing Updates

  • PR update - many articles, mostly positive pick up
    • 68 original articles from Dec 8 - 10. 193 total US articles, 135 original since November.
    • 32 original articles in Germany for Thunderbird 3 release
    • 13 original in the UK
    • 20 original in Japan
    • over 30 in France

Next up

  • Evaluating press articles.
  • Party planning - 3rd/4th week of January for release party.

IT update

  • Post Thunderbird 3.0 fixes and metrics
  • Calendar 1.0b1
  • TB 3.0 AUS pings yesterday: > 162k
  • SuMoMo trunk has all wanted features working

Documentation

Done

  • set up build environment
  • edit and link up gloda docs; clean up crufty old stuff
  • fix for Get Thunderbird version how-to
  • fix for Compose New Message how-to
  • (ongoing) Mission control / autoconfig (also new issue with documenting prefs)

TODO / In Progress

  • Doc day on Thursday - announce and set up
  • finalize / blog Content Tab docs
  • support doc locations (521665)

Support

  1. All Hands
    1. Met everybody in SUMO and AMO and others I wanted to meet except PascalC
    2. Enabled me to draw up 2010 Support Goals which I will make public later this week
  2. Top 5 GS Thunderbird 2 Support Topics (code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190923 )
    1. not collected focused on Thunderbird 3.0
  3. Thunderbird 3.0 Top Support Issues
    1. Kaspersky DLL and KPT issue causes blank windows after upgrade from TB 2 to 3 - email to Carsten and Mark and Sam sent, not sure who is in charge of Kaspersky, is it Jonathan? awaiting reply to email
    2. Add-Ons: Where is Lightning?
    3. Compact Header
    4. Untick use name and password
    5. 4GB Gmail issue - Bienvenu working on fix for Thunderbird 3.1
    6. duplicate folders after TB2 to TB3 upgrade
    7. opening IMAP text attachments is broken
  4. SUMO for MoMo
    1. theming really done this week now that all functionality is working
    2. still need people to write kb articles - sign up to write a SuMoMo article today :-)
  5. TB 3.0 Lessons learned for 3.1 Support
    1. Have a support Day 1 or 2 business days after release
    2. Test (and notify vendors) all popular anti-virus upgrade scenarios from last major release to new release including Kaspersky
    3. Have KB articles ready for all new features and GS topics that point to KB articles - start writing KB articles at Beta 1
    4. Explain how community support works. 1 or 2 brief videos will make it much clearer I think
    5. Explain how add-ons work and how crucial it is to wait for your add-ons to be ported before upgrading
  6. Get Satisfaction
    1. Met with GS team in San Francisco last week and shared our ideas for GS improvements, most critical is split/close, will post wiki page with followup
    2. GS branding will be done this week, thanks to Gozer for code inspecting
    3. GS Workflow aka How to do support - draft in progress
  7. Key Support stats from the following graphic:
    1. approximately 105/ day (734/7 new topics 3.6x higher than week of Dec 1, # of visitors 15X higher: 30000 compared to 2000)
    2. total new topics:734 total replies: 372 (Ruby Code)
      1. date:20091208 #new support topics:54 resolved:15
      2. date:20091209 #new support topics:189 resolved:13
      3. date:20091210 #new support topics:165 resolved:16
      4. date:20091211 #new support topics:126 resolved:23
      5. date:20091212 #new support topics:103 resolved:9
      6. date:20091213 #new support topics:88 resolved:13
      7. date:20091214 #new support topics:92 resolved:18
    3. #replies from non MoMo folks: replies from MoMo folks: not available since JSON GS Replies API is down, email sent to GS folks thanks to Bienvenu, davida, dmosee and new folks for helping
    4. happiness metric: API doesn't have happiness emotitags, code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190094, JSON replies API is down so no update, Hendrix down to 10 since link replaced with GS link

8-14Dec2009-Community stats for Mozilla Messaging.png

Roundtable

Status Updates

sid0
davida
dmose
Standard8
  • Reviews
  • Thunderbird 3 follow-up and bug triage.
  • 3.0.x driving
  • 1.9.2 branch set up work.
asuth
bienvenu
  • Reviews and Driving
  • MoCo All hands
  • 3.1 planning
  • Spent time with Get Satisfaction to get an idea of the issues we need to fix for 3.01 and 3.1.
  • Added check for null url in NotifySearchHit, potential fix for topcrash bug 533249
  • Attempted to fix dock count issues on mac, bug 516477
  • fix ref counting issue editing drafts, bug 532693
  • Cleaned up some dump statements in unit tests to dump exception caught, not some undefined variable.
gozer
clarkbw
wsmwk
beckley
Penelope
  • Gloda integration in to Search Messages window not going well, and is backed out for next beta
  • Eudora 8.0b8/Penelope 0.5a5 builds made and being tested, with hopes of release later this week
KaiRo
  • Upgraded SeaMonkey build machines to current buildbot and buildbotcustom
    • Patched one issue with general comm-* builds in new buildbotcustom, should go in this week, things should be usable for Thunderbird as well, then.
  • Releasing SeaMonkey 2.0.1 today, in sync with Firefox 3.5.6
rkent
rebron
  • Thunderbird 3 release
  • All Hands
  • Add-on Conference

This Week

  • A few more locales for Thunderbird 3
  • PR evaluation.
Tsk
andreasn

Done:

Todo:

bwinton

Last week:

Next week:

  • More ISPDB driving.
  • Start an extension for some of the netbook changes.
  • Continue my ReplyMode extension.
  • Say hello to next term's students, and help them get started.
roland
sgautherie
  • Fixed MailNews Core bugs:
    • bug 520899 Switch application/x-javascript to application/javascript, MailNews Core part
nth10sd
Fallen
  • Lightning 1.0b1rc1 is ready, will be released asap.
  • Sunbird repacks fail on all platforms, gozer will take a look
  • Looking for more channels to make the beta rc1 public
  • Next up: check in and have patches reviewed to fix burning on trunk
  • Exams in about a month
jcranmer
BenB

Working on bug 525238 and automated tests. Implemented AUTH PLAIN and AUTH CRAM-MD5 (for real) in the fake server.

Attendees

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