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'''Planning Meeting Details'''


'''Planning Meeting Details'''
*Wednesdays - 11:00am PDT, 18:00 UTC  
* Wednesdays - 11:00am PDT, 18:00 UTC
*Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room  
* Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room
*Toronto Offices: Fin du Monde Conference Room  
* Toronto Offices: Fin du Monde Conference Room
*650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US/INTL) (phone dial in to Warp Core Vidyo Bridge x92 Conf # 95312)<br>
* 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US/INTL)
*1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)  
* 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)
*[irc://irc.mozilla.org/planning irc.mozilla.org #planning] for backchannel  
* [irc://irc.mozilla.org/planning irc.mozilla.org #planning] for backchannel
*(the [[Platform#Meetings|developer meeting]] takes place on Tuesdays)
* (the [[Platform#Meetings|developer meeting]] takes place on Tuesdays)


{{Notes}}
{{Notes}}  


__FORCETOC__
__FORCETOC__  


== Actions from Last Week ==
== Actions from Last Week ==
* <strike>Johnathan to re-template this meeting to extract out common elements</strike>
 
** Done! See?
*<strike>Johnathan to re-template this meeting to extract out common elements</strike>  
* <strike>Thomas to review new meeting template</strike>
**Done! See?  
** Done! Looking good. Will probably need a few minor tweaks
*<strike>Thomas to review new meeting template</strike>  
* Asa to post about the product team's view of 64-bit support and update the group here
**Done! Looking good. Will probably need a few minor tweaks  
*Asa to post about the product team's view of 64-bit support and update the group here
** I haven't done this yet. Still waiting on feedback from plug-in vendors on dates.
 
== Schedule &amp; Progress on [[Releases|Upcoming Releases]]  ==
 
=== Firefox Desktop  ===
 
==== Release (3.6, 5.0)  ====
3.6.20 on track for simul-ship with 6.0
 
==== Beta (6)  ====
JST wants to discuss up a virus problem that we want to try to address for Beta. WIll happen in the triage meeting. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=670542


== Schedule &amp; Progress on [[Releases|Upcoming Releases]] ==
==== Aurora (7)  ====


===Firefox Desktop ===
==== Nightly (8) ====
==== Release (3.6, 5.0) ====
Tab animations and tab tear off improvements landed on m-c


==== Beta (6) ====
=== Firefox Mobile  ===
 
==== Release (5)  ====
 
==== Beta (6) ====
* fixed crashers


==== Aurora (7) ====
==== Aurora (7) ====
* fixed crashers


==== Nightly (8) ====
==== Nightly (8) ====
* fixed crasher
* working with webapps group


=== Firefox Mobile ===
=== Firefox Sync ===
* Beta (6) - [[Firefox/Features/Sync_Discoverability|Sync Discovery]]
* Aurora (7) - [[Firefox/Features/Instant_Sync|Instant Sync]]
* [[Services/Sync/EOL_Sync_Add_On_Phase_1|Firefox Sync Add-on EOL Plan - Phase 1]] - in progress
* Firefox 8+:
** [[Services/Sync/Sync_Setup_Improvements_Desktop|Improving Sync Set Up on Desktop]] - In progress
** [[Services/Sync/Sync_Setup_Improvements_Mobile|Improving Sync Set Up on Mobile]] - In progress
** [[Services/Sync/Push_to_device|Push to Device]] - *NEW* In progress
 
=== [[AMO/FlightDeck/0.9.7|Add-on Builder]] ===


==== 5 ====
=== [[Labs/Jetpack/SDK/1.1|Add-on SDK 1.1]] ===


==== 6 ====
* progress continues apace on a variety of enhancements and bug fixes
* new [[Jetpack/Development Process|Development Process]] finalized
* first merge from development branch to stabilization branch takes place next Tuesday, August 2
* release happens Tuesday, September 13
* and six weeks after that (October 25)
* and six weeks after that (December 6 - Saint Nicholas Day!)
* rinse and repeat


==== 7  ====
=== [[Firefox/Input/Releases/4.3|Input 4.3]] ===
* No ETA just yet; IT has set up the new clusters and are testing extensively.


==== 8  ====
Other notes:
* Finished an experimental extension, named [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/alert-the-developer/ Alert the Developer], that adds your favorite happy/sad/idea buttons to each add-on's detail panel in the add-ons manager is up on AMO and waiting for a full review. Kudos for some great help by Mossop!
* Final stages with the BMO team on defining a [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/TellUsMore set of requirements] to allow Nightly/Aurora users to file bugs into Bugzilla via an option on Input's sad form.


===Firefox Sync===
== Feedback Summary  ==


===[[AMO/FlightDeck/0.9.7|Add-on Builder]]===
=== Desktop  ===


=== [[Labs/Jetpack/SDK/1.1|Add-on SDK 1.1]] ===
*Extensions (Mainly Google Toolbar, IDM)
*'''No support for OSX Lion gestures. (1000+)'''
**https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/questions/853020 and https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/questions/853277 and https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/questions/853405
** [http://input.mozilla.com/en-US/?q=lion+gesture&product=firefox&version=--&date_start=&date_end= Input 39]
*Hotmail broken drag and drop (passwords still a problem)
**https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/questions/852508
**https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/questions/847972
*App-Tabs aren't saving
*'''QuestScan (malware)''':
**https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/questions/849102
*'''Gmail error: Typeerror:COLLAPSIBLE SIDEBOXES.center is undefined'''
**https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/questions/852400 and https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/questions/851468


===[[Firefox/Input/Releases/4.3|Input 4.3]]===
====Firefox 6====
* '''Broken Arabic fonts on BBC''': {{bug|674335}} -- Needs tech evang.
* Thai not working on OSX: {{bug|672955}}
* Some comments about sync add-on bustage.


=== Mobile  ===
<br>


== Feedback Summary  ==
=== Desktop ===
=== Mobile ===
<br>
{| width="100%"
{| width="100%"
|-
|-
| width="40%;" style="background-color: #efefef;" | '''Positive Insights Found'''  
| width="40%;" style="background-color: #efefef;" | '''Positive Insights Found'''
|-
|-
|  
|  
*'''Sync'''  
*'''Sync'''  
*Input: [http://input.mozilla.com/en-US/?product=mobile&version=5.0&date_start=2011-07-19&sentiment=happy&q=sync 4]  
*Input: [http://input.mozilla.com/en-US/?product=mobile&version=5.0&date_start=2011-07-19&sentiment=happy&q=sync 4]
 
|-
|-
|  
|  
*'''Fast'''  
*'''Fast'''  
*Input: [http://input.mozilla.com/en-US/?locale=en-US&product=mobile&date_start=2011-07-13&version=5.0&sentiment=happy&q=fast 14]
*Input: [http://input.mozilla.com/en-US/?locale=en-US&product=mobile&date_start=2011-07-13&version=5.0&sentiment=happy&q=fast 14]
|-
|-
|  
|  
SUMO general insights:
SUMO general insights:  
*Most requested device is Symbian/Nokia this week.
 
*Access issues:  
*Most requested device is Symbian/Nokia this week.  
Market link not working (19)
*Access issues:
Need direct link to download (17)  
 
Can't download to tablet (24)
Market link not working (19) Need direct link to download (17) Can't download to tablet (24) Overall 158 'I have this problem too' votes related to tablets on SUMO this week.  
Overall 158 'I have this problem too' votes related to tablets on SUMO this week.
 
{| width="100%"
{| width="100%"
|-
|-
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*Input: [https://input.mozilla.com/en-US/?q=flash&product=mobile&version=--&date_start=2011-07-19&date_end= 34]  
*Input: [https://input.mozilla.com/en-US/?q=flash&product=mobile&version=--&date_start=2011-07-19&date_end= 34]  
*SUMO: New 93 same as last week
*SUMO: New 93 same as last week
| All  
| All  
| {{bug|630007}}
| {{bug|630007}}
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|  
|  
*'''Would like more options for clearing history'''  
*'''Would like more options for clearing history'''  
*Input: [https://input.mozilla.com/en-US/?q=copy+paste&product=mobile&version=--&date_start=2011-07-19&date_end= 2]
*Input: [https://input.mozilla.com/en-US/?q=copy+paste&product=mobile&version=--&date_start=2011-07-19&date_end= 2]  
*SUMO: New 25 up
*SUMO: New 25 up
| Beta/Release  
| Beta/Release  
| {{bug|656901}}
| {{bug|656901}}
|-
|-
|  
|  
*'''No Copy & Paste'''  
*'''No Copy &amp; Paste'''  
*Input: [https://input.mozilla.com/en-US/?q=copy+paste&product=mobile&version=6.0&date_start=2011-07-19&date_end= 4]
*Input: [https://input.mozilla.com/en-US/?q=copy+paste&product=mobile&version=6.0&date_start=2011-07-19&date_end= 4]  
*SUMO: 16
*SUMO: 16
| Beta (not in Aurora or Nightly)
 
| Beta (not in Aurora or Nightly)  
| {{bug|582244}}
| {{bug|582244}}
|-
|-
|
|  
* '''Updates are too frequent/confusion around non market update'''
*'''Updates are too frequent/confusion around non market update'''  
* Input: [https://input.mozilla.com/en-US/?q=image&product=mobile&version=--&date_start=2011-07-12&date_end= 2]
*Input: [https://input.mozilla.com/en-US/?q=image&product=mobile&version=--&date_start=2011-07-12&date_end= 2]
| Aurora
 
| Aurora  
| N/A
| N/A
|}
|}


== UX & User Research ==
== UX &amp; User Research ==
'''UX'''
 
* Madhava vacationing in cottage country, back August 2
'''Mobile'''<br>
* Fennecomb - ongoing design and spec work, and visual design and assets likely to pick up again late this week/early next week
 
* Design updates to Fennec about:home underway
*Fennecomb - ongoing design and spec work, and visual design and assets likely to pick up again late this week/early next week* Design updates to Fennec about:home underway
* Designs for Fennec camera UI underway
*Design updates to about:home underway (Bug [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=646899 646899], [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669166 669166])<br>
* Working with Diane on some mockups for Pancake research interviews
*Designs for camera UI underway


== '''Market Insights'''  ==
== '''Market Insights'''  ==
=== Desktop ===
 
=== Mobile ===
=== Desktop ===
 
Updates as of July the 18th. Next update in the week of August the 15th (Patrick is on holiday)
 
*Microsoft held its [http://digitalwpc.com/#fbid=pdwCiI8fq4p Worldwide Partner Conference]. News and rumours include:
**Windows 8 will be called "Windows 8" (this had been in doubt previously)
**Windows timeline rumours: September in Beta, January in RC and April 2012 ready for market
**Windows Phone 7 will not run on tablets; Windows 8 will
**Long-term, Windows 9 or 10 will run on the Xbox and other devices
 
*NSS Labs released [http://www.nsslabs.com/assets/noreg-reports/2011/nss%20labs_q2_2011_browsersem_FINAL.pdf another report] stating that IE9 is by far the best browser at protecting against socially-engineered malware.
 
*A Microsoft Research project accidentally went live at the domain socl.com.&nbsp; Codenamed [http://www.technicalathma.com/2011/07/finally-microsoft-to-enter-social-networking/ Tulalip], it reportedly integrated Facebook and Twitter feeds.&nbsp; Microsoft did not to share any more information about the project.
 
*[http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome?view=rev&revision=91573 Changes in Chromium] show that Chrome might get a [http://www.dropmocks.com/iW5mk GUI] for multi-profile usage.&nbsp;
 
*Google profits up 36%. Google beat forecasts, with profits up 36% in the last quarter (both advertising and click-through rates going up.&nbsp; During their earnings call, Google quoted 160M users of Chrome (the same figure they quoted in May), and did not discuss Chrome OS at all.
 
=== Mobile ===


Summary below, full update [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Insights/2011_Week30 here] and in your inbox.  
Summary below, full update [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Insights/2011_Week30 here] and in your inbox.  


* The beta tablet version of the Dolphin browser, Dolphin for Pad, was released in the Android Market
*The beta tablet version of the Dolphin browser, Dolphin for Pad, was released in the Android Market  
* Opera anounced a partnership with an Indian mobile game developer and released the June edition of its State of the Mobile browser reports
*Opera anounced a partnership with an Indian mobile game developer and released the June edition of its State of the Mobile browser reports  
* The Android Market introduced multiple APK support for a single product, allowing for better device targeting
*The Android Market introduced multiple APK support for a single product, allowing for better device targeting  
* Android accounted for 30% of tablet devices sold in Q2 2011, with iOS having a 61% share
*Android accounted for 30% of tablet devices sold in Q2 2011, with iOS having a 61% share  
* 28% of all mobile phones sold this year will be smartphones, with Nokia being dethroned in Q2 as the top selling smartphone OEM, in favour of Apple or Samsung (final results to become available this week)
*28% of all mobile phones sold this year will be smartphones, with Nokia being dethroned in Q2 as the top selling smartphone OEM, in favour of Apple or Samsung (final results to become available this week)  
* The first device to feature the WP7 Mango update to be the Toshiba Fujitsu IS12T, to be released in Japan in September this year
*The first device to feature the WP7 Mango update to be the Toshiba Fujitsu IS12T, to be released in Japan in September this year


== Marketing, Press &amp; Public Reaction  ==
== Marketing, Press &amp; Public Reaction  ==


=== Mobile ===
*[http://download.cnet.com/8301-2007_4-20083238-12/mozilla-building-mobile-os-to-battle-chrome/ Mozilla building mobile OS to battle Chrome]
*[http://techcrunch.com/2011/07/25/boot-to-gecko-mozillas-open-source-mobile-answer-to-chromeos/ Boot to Gecko: Mozilla's open-source, mobile answer to Chrome OS]
*[http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2011/07/26/247415/Mozilla-plans-mobile-operating-system-for-phones-and.htm Mozilla plans mobile operating system for phones and tablets]
*[http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2011/07/26/firefox-maker-mozilla-in-mobile-os.html Firefox maker Mozilla in mobile OS]


*Phase 1 of Aurora promotion: introduced into current channels; evaluation in a month (1st week of September)
*[http://www.conceivablytech.com/8520/products/mozilla-overhauls-firefox-panorama Mozilla overhauls Firefox Panorama]
*Began Android Market optimization: "Browser" #6, "Web Browser" #4, "Mobile Browser" #7
*Updating /mobile sites: EOL Maemo, device compatability, mobile takeover


== Questions, Comments, FYI ==
*[http://www.readwriteweb.com/enterprise/2011/07/it-poll-do-you-support-firefox.php IT Poll: Do You Support Firefox in the Enterprise?]


== Actions this week ==
*[http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20082056-264/mozilla-jumps-to-deal-with-google-toolbar-demise/ Mozilla jumps to deal with Google Toolbar demise]
*[http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9218606/Mozilla_hustles_to_handle_demise_of_Google_Toolbar_for_Firefox Mozilla Hustles to Handle Demise of Google Toolbar for Firefox]
*[http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2388882,00.asp Google drops its Toolbar for Firefox]
*[http://searchengineland.com/after-six-years-google-drops-support-for-toolbar-on-firefox-86720 After Six Years, Google Drops Support For Toolbar On Firefox]
 
== Questions, Comments, FYI  ==
 
== Actions this week ==
 
* Asa to post about the product team's view of 64-bit support and update the group here
** I haven't done this yet. Still waiting on feedback from plug-in vendors on dates.
* Cheng to file bug on os X lion intercepting old navigation gestures
** Already done {{bug|674610}}
* Cheng/Aakash/Axel to figure out locale-specific input scrubbing

Latest revision as of 18:34, 28 September 2011

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Planning Meeting Details

  • Wednesdays - 11:00am PDT, 18:00 UTC
  • Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room
  • Toronto Offices: Fin du Monde Conference Room
  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US/INTL) (phone dial in to Warp Core Vidyo Bridge x92 Conf # 95312)
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)
  • irc.mozilla.org #planning for backchannel
  • (the developer meeting takes place on Tuesdays)
REMEMBER
These notes are read by people who weren't able to attend the meeting. Please make sure to include links and context so they can be understood.


Actions from Last Week

  • Johnathan to re-template this meeting to extract out common elements
    • Done! See?
  • Thomas to review new meeting template
    • Done! Looking good. Will probably need a few minor tweaks
  • Asa to post about the product team's view of 64-bit support and update the group here
    • I haven't done this yet. Still waiting on feedback from plug-in vendors on dates.

Schedule & Progress on Upcoming Releases

Firefox Desktop

Release (3.6, 5.0)

3.6.20 on track for simul-ship with 6.0

Beta (6)

JST wants to discuss up a virus problem that we want to try to address for Beta. WIll happen in the triage meeting. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=670542

Aurora (7)

Nightly (8)

Tab animations and tab tear off improvements landed on m-c

Firefox Mobile

Release (5)

Beta (6)

  • fixed crashers

Aurora (7)

  • fixed crashers

Nightly (8)

  • fixed crasher
  • working with webapps group

Firefox Sync

Add-on Builder

Add-on SDK 1.1

  • progress continues apace on a variety of enhancements and bug fixes
  • new Development Process finalized
  • first merge from development branch to stabilization branch takes place next Tuesday, August 2
  • release happens Tuesday, September 13
  • and six weeks after that (October 25)
  • and six weeks after that (December 6 - Saint Nicholas Day!)
  • rinse and repeat

Input 4.3

  • No ETA just yet; IT has set up the new clusters and are testing extensively.

Other notes:

  • Finished an experimental extension, named Alert the Developer, that adds your favorite happy/sad/idea buttons to each add-on's detail panel in the add-ons manager is up on AMO and waiting for a full review. Kudos for some great help by Mossop!
  • Final stages with the BMO team on defining a set of requirements to allow Nightly/Aurora users to file bugs into Bugzilla via an option on Input's sad form.

Feedback Summary

Desktop

Firefox 6

  • Broken Arabic fonts on BBC: bug 674335 -- Needs tech evang.
  • Thai not working on OSX: bug 672955
  • Some comments about sync add-on bustage.

Mobile


Positive Insights Found
  • Sync
  • Input: 4
  • Fast
  • Input: 14

SUMO general insights:

  • Most requested device is Symbian/Nokia this week.
  • Access issues:

Market link not working (19) Need direct link to download (17) Can't download to tablet (24) Overall 158 'I have this problem too' votes related to tablets on SUMO this week.

Negative Clustered Insights Found Release Channel Bug Id
  • No Flash
  • Input: 34
  • SUMO: New 93 same as last week
 All bug 630007
  • Would like more options for clearing history
  • Input: 2
  • SUMO: New 25 up
 Beta/Release bug 656901
  • No Copy & Paste
  • Input: 4
  • SUMO: 16
 Beta (not in Aurora or Nightly) bug 582244
  • Updates are too frequent/confusion around non market update
  • Input: 2
 Aurora N/A

UX & User Research

Mobile

  • Fennecomb - ongoing design and spec work, and visual design and assets likely to pick up again late this week/early next week* Design updates to Fennec about:home underway
  • Design updates to about:home underway (Bug 646899, 669166)
  • Designs for camera UI underway

Market Insights

Desktop

Updates as of July the 18th. Next update in the week of August the 15th (Patrick is on holiday)

  • Microsoft held its Worldwide Partner Conference. News and rumours include:
    • Windows 8 will be called "Windows 8" (this had been in doubt previously)
    • Windows timeline rumours: September in Beta, January in RC and April 2012 ready for market
    • Windows Phone 7 will not run on tablets; Windows 8 will
    • Long-term, Windows 9 or 10 will run on the Xbox and other devices
  • NSS Labs released another report stating that IE9 is by far the best browser at protecting against socially-engineered malware.
  • A Microsoft Research project accidentally went live at the domain socl.com.  Codenamed Tulalip, it reportedly integrated Facebook and Twitter feeds.  Microsoft did not to share any more information about the project.
  • Google profits up 36%. Google beat forecasts, with profits up 36% in the last quarter (both advertising and click-through rates going up.  During their earnings call, Google quoted 160M users of Chrome (the same figure they quoted in May), and did not discuss Chrome OS at all.

Mobile

Summary below, full update here and in your inbox.

  • The beta tablet version of the Dolphin browser, Dolphin for Pad, was released in the Android Market
  • Opera anounced a partnership with an Indian mobile game developer and released the June edition of its State of the Mobile browser reports
  • The Android Market introduced multiple APK support for a single product, allowing for better device targeting
  • Android accounted for 30% of tablet devices sold in Q2 2011, with iOS having a 61% share
  • 28% of all mobile phones sold this year will be smartphones, with Nokia being dethroned in Q2 as the top selling smartphone OEM, in favour of Apple or Samsung (final results to become available this week)
  • The first device to feature the WP7 Mango update to be the Toshiba Fujitsu IS12T, to be released in Japan in September this year

Marketing, Press & Public Reaction

Questions, Comments, FYI

Actions this week

  • Asa to post about the product team's view of 64-bit support and update the group here
    • I haven't done this yet. Still waiting on feedback from plug-in vendors on dates.
  • Cheng to file bug on os X lion intercepting old navigation gestures
  • Cheng/Aakash/Axel to figure out locale-specific input scrubbing
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