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 '''Thunderbird Meeting Details'''
-* Tuesdays - Thunderbird - 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 17:30 UTC
+* [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2008&month=3&day=4&hour=17&min=30&sec=0&p1=16&p2=37&p3=64&p4=179&p5=224&iv=1800 Tuesday March 4th, 17:30 UTC] (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)
 * ?? any physical location?
-* 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x91 Conf# 315 (US/INTL)
-* 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 315 (US)
+'''Telephone Info'''
+* 1-800-707-2533 (US)
+** PIN: 369
+** Conf# 315
+* 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 (US/INTL)
+** Extension: 91
+** Conf# 315
+''Conference controls''
+* Press *1 to mute
+* Press *1 to unmute when muted
+* Each time you say something, please say your name first so people know who's speaking
+'''Chat'''
 * irc.mozilla.org #maildev for backchannel
 __TOC__
-== General Discussion ==
+== Meeting Notes ==
+'''Attendees:''' clarkbw, dmose, davida, KaiRo, pooyak, sp3000, kennethr, nth10sd, cilias, mcsmurf, BenB, emre, beckley, bisi, wsmWK
+''this is likely an incomplete list, add yourself if you attended''
 === Tb 2.0.0.13 ===
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 === Wiki gardening ===
-We'd like to have the Thunderbird wiki be as useful as possible in particular to people who would like to get involved.  The plan is to look at what Calendar and Seamonkey have done in particular.  See the draft [[Tb]] area
+''See the current [[Tb|Thunderbird DRAFT]]''
+We'd like the Thunderbird wiki be useful for people who would like to get involved.  People interested in helping with the wiki, developers for thunderbird and extensions all have a difficult time finding the information they need to get started.
+''Good Example:''  Look how the [[Tb:Autoconfiguration|Auto configuration]] was created on the wiki, [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird/browse_frm/thread/e8bdb0af31961908/a73bd97251b18777?tvc=1#a73bd97251b18777 a message] was sent out  to the news group for further discussion and [http://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Tb:Autoconfiguration&action=history finalized activity goes back into the wiki page].
+''Further todo:''
+* Continue looking at what Calendar and Seamonkey have are doing.
+* Remember to make Thunderbird a category tag on each page created so it can be found from the [[:Category:Thunderbird|category page]]
+* Any technical questions answered on IRC need to be pushed to the wiki docs '''as they are answered'''
+An easy activity for someone is to comb through the current [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird/topics news groups archives] in reverse chronological order and pull out technical questions that have been answered and put them in the wiki.
 === Tb 3 planning ===
 * Tb 3.0a1 and 3.0 bugzilla flags
-* Calendar integration: branch strategy
+** Tabbed messaging?
+** Address book.app support on the mac?
+*** dmose + standard8 : address book re-factoring pushed to 8 weeks out?
+** What is the release process?  Change the person who is the primary driver for each release
+** Who is the Primary driver for Alpha 1?
+** Encourage people to bring bugs they care about to the Release Driver for consideration in the Release
+'''Question brought up:''' In bugzilla who is the default assignee? nobody? default q/a contact?
+* Calendar integration
+** davida will post the calendar branch strategy on the news group
 * Search strategy: what's the right way to improve esp. content search while not taking on too much technical risk?
+** if needed, get additional attention from the SQLite devs
+** Currently we are largely a mork world and it's too much work/risk to remove all of mork before t-bird 3.  Possibly we can glue in SQLite with mork specifically to handle the text indexes.
+** via IRC: {{bug|414102}} is possibly a blocker
+** search UI is in need of improvements
 * UX improvements: how to approach it?
+** general theme, improving the overall extensions system.  from ideas to implement, install, and developer feedback loop; attack smaller and urgent UI issues as they come up
+** cover wiki pages for improving the [[Thunderbird:Extension_Installation|install experience]]
+** start review existing extensions that are being included.  Does each have a wiki page? use news group for discussion.
+** tabbed messaging ideas
+*** {{bug|218999}}
+*** {{bug|297379}}
+** lightning extension
+** AMO integration for Thunderbird
+*** {{bug|414674}}
+* Existing UI Issues
+** cc bryan on UI bugs using clarkbw at gnome dot org account
+** bryan will begin to look over [[Tb:Feature_Discussions|feature discussions]]
 * Features in extensions worth integrating
+** collect information various places and create a place (wiki page?) for the most useful extensions to be explored
+** ex. [http://lifehacker.com/software/thunderbird/geek-to-live-eight-killer-thunderbird-extensions-234350.php  eight killer thunderbird extensions]
+** contact support forums for information
+** collect statistical information from AMO
+** [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/1396  sync on arrival extension]
+** [https://addons.mozilla.org/de/thunderbird/addon/3492 show InOut mentioned]
+=== Hardware update ===
-=== Hardware update ===
+''please add technical items to here''
 == Round table ==
+* need to set up many different kinds of mail and caldav servers for testing
+* also include setup of an exchange server for testing
+* calendar group meeting in april, we should join them if we can
+* perhaps we should have a thunderbird group meet together around that time?
+* Question of [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.platform/browse_thread/thread/4f1595449bf94cd2/ae9012232c071d0b  Is "Gecko" 1.9 only Firefox?]