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Thunderbird meeting notes 2015-06-16. NOON PT (Pacific). Check for meeting time conversion, previous meeting notes and call-in details


rkent, wsmwk, sshagarwal, jorgk, joes1, jcranmer, mkmelin, rolandtanglao, makemyday

Action items from last meetings

Friends of the tree

Current status and discussions

Critical Issues

Leave critical bugs here until confirmed fixed. If confirmed, then remove.

  • see tb38 etherpad
  • tracking-tb38 flags - approved(+): nominated(?):
  • Do we unthrottle updates for TB38?
    • suggest 10% for a couple days so we get more data, if there are no objections (wsmwk). we are roughly at 200k users or 1% of user population
    • JoeS1 FWIW Firefox unthrottles immediately to 25 for info, I think we should do the same
      • But I guess they do that because they are ready to do a point release if necessary, and we are not that ready
    • What is state of addons? (generally we don't decide based on this, except maybe calendar)
    • Are there tracked bugs we want fixed before full unthrottle? (means waiting for 38.1.0)
  • rkent list of critical issues blocking even partial unthrottling:
    • broken Simplified Chinese bug 1174580 - Not display GB2312 encoded texts correctly
      • It might be possible to simply change the encoding mapping to fix this?
    • proxy not working bug 1175051 and probably related crashes
  • rkent list of other critical issues
    • Outlook/Eudora import completely busted: bug 1175055.
      • I suggest that for the next dot release, if we cannot get the crash fixed, we should disable the menu item that promotes this. Does not block unthrottling since mostly affects new users.
      • Someone needs to add additional main thread proxies to the migration code.
    • bug 1174797 Add a cookie exception for GMail OAuth
      • Does not affect unthrottling since no effect unless someone tries to use OAuth. Lightning has an example of how to fix this, so should not be difficult.

removing from critical list/fixed:


  • Past
    • 31.6.0 shipped
    • 38.0b3 shipped 2015-04-26 Sunday
    • 38.0b4 shipped 2015-05-03 Sunday
    • 31.7.0 2015-05-18 Monday (lots of issues - Tues 5-12 was target)
    • 38.0b5 shipped 2015-05-19 Tuesday
    • 38.0b6 shipped 2015-05-23
    • 38.0.1 nominally shipped 2015-06-12
  • Upcoming
    • 31.8.0 ~2015-06-20 GTB
    • 38.1.0 FF GTB on June 22 release June 30.
      • Would it be possible to continue to use the beta channel for TB 38 until post-38.2.0? So maybe we could do a 38.1.0b1?

Lightning to Thunderbird Integration


  • As underpass has pointed out repeatedly (thanks for your patience!) , we need to rewrite / heavily modify the lightning articles on let me know irc: rolandtanglao on #tb-support-crew or rtanglao AT OR simply start editing the articles
  • We need to fill the "Learn More" page with content, possibly point it to something more specific bug 1159682
  • Opt-out dialog: change "disable" to "remove" bug 1159698
  • tracking bug for lightning 4.0 bug 1153752

Round Table



  • bug 345852 - Personal dictionary, waiting for Ehsan
  • bug 209189 - delete, delete, undo -> corruption, waiting for Neil/Kent
  • bug 368915 - spell check in subject, ongoing.
  • bug 1175055 - Import (Eudora/Outlook) busted.


My availability will be limited from June 20 - June 29. If there is going to be progress on fixing TB 38 releases in that time, someone else would have to drive it.

  • Monitoring issues appearing in TB 38.0.1
  • Previously there were issues getting TB 38 to build with current mozilla-esr38 (which resulted in THUNDERBIRD_38_0_20150603_RELBRANCH) and I suspect there may be some fixes needed to get the merge of mozilla-esr38 into THUNDERBIRD_38_VERBRANCH to work.


  • Huge backlog, being more or less processed in stack order unfortunately
    • Ping me on IRC if you have anything really important to look at something
  • Following up on some releng future issues
  • I have some discussions to start after 38 is finally out the door


  • At step one of the project: Setting up a dummy protocol to understand how a protocol is added to TB using addon approach (using Skinkglue).
  • I have taken too much time to do this mostly due to health issues continuing for over a month now. Will pick up soon.

Question Time

Jorg K: When will JSMime take over all RFC2047 decoding? Looking at bug 1146099 I found RFC2047 code used in comm-central/mozilla/netwerk/mime. Also, while Joshua is here: Will we fix whatever we did wrong in bug 1154521

Support team

  • Roland's last day is June 30, 2015 - please needinfo :rolandtanglao or email rtanglao AT if you need my help starting July 1, 2015


  • Note - meeting notes must be copied from etherpad to wiki before 5AM CET next day so that they will go public in the meeting notes blog.

Action Items