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2010-02-06T02:54:59Z

Bhashem: Changed .com to .org on the repo server

*'''Description:''' Command-line application and library written in Python.
*'''Source:''' http://hg.mozilla.org/labs/weaveclient-python
*'''Main Developer(s)''': Michael Hanson <mhanson@mozilla.com>
*'''Other notes from the developer:''' Search and display all sync data, with export to text, JSON, or XML.

AMO:Meeting Notes

2008-09-30T21:38:31Z

Bhashem: /* Oct 1 */

[[Update:Remora|« Back to Update:Remora]]

== AMO Project Meeting Details ==
<pre>
Wednesdays, 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern
1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) or 1-650-215-1282 or 1-650-903-0800
Conferencing Center: x91
Conference ID: 261</pre>

== Common AMO Bugzilla Queries ==
* AMO 3.5 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Code Complete - Fri, 8/29, push: Thu, TBD'''
* AMO 4.0.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO4.0.1-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, Sep 15 (11:59pm), push: Thu, Sep 18'''
* AMO 4.0.2 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.2&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.2&query_based_on=AMO4.0.2-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, Oct 6 (11:59pm), push: Thu, Oct 9'''

__TOC__

== Oct 1 ==
* We've been getting a lot of traffic to amo-editors@ lately. afaik Basil has been handling everything other people didn't reply to right away. Do we have a plan for who will handle this stuff now? --clouserw [It should be Rey but he'll need some assistance --basil]

== Sep 24 ==
* AMO 4.0.2 execution
* Developer Survey results to be shared this week
* We now have an Extended Validation (EV) cert on AMO, requires Firefox 3.0.2 in order to see it - will boost end user confidence in the site. [http://www.grabup.com/uploads/f076e3d9654705665955ac0990725d4b.jpg Screenshot]
* Review draft Q4 AMO Goals
** For Users:
*** Basic AMO support for Fennec per plan
*** Complete Phase 2 of Bandwagon (Collections & Iteration 1 of Add-on)
*** Add-on Licensing clarity
*** Support for non-AMO hosted add-ons (breadth)
*** Revise AMO search: new algo, new engine, new landing page
*** PFS Rearchitecture/Revamp
** For Devs:
*** Reduce approval queue sizes/review process
*** Code Repo (mxr) for open source add-ons
*** Single DMZ Mac for remote add-on testing by editors
** With Stats:
*** Rollout production add-ons dashboard for aggregate stats (with IT)?
*** AMO Public Stats Dashboard (editor queue length, overall stats)

== Sep 18th (dev) ==
* summary of the [[Update:Remora Database/Object Caching|object-level caching changes]]
* tips on how the test cluster works and how to use it via [[Melanion]]
* [http://morgamic.com/2008/06/12/profiling-php-with-xdebug-and-webgrind/ short tutorial on xdebug and webgrind] on khan
* Does anyone else find firebot in #amo annoying? --clouserw
** Discussion on amo-editors boils down to "please switch its automated bug spam off, but keep the bot around for specific lookups". --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
** firebot's bug spam is switched off.
* Discuss [[QA/Tools/Selenium/AMO Automation|Selenium tests]] and how to integrate with SimpleTest

== Sep 17th ==
* AMO 4.0.1 Dev & Testing Status
** I have Selenium tests for the Dev CP, but I need to convert them to use a new account (don't want to give up my password), with its associated dummy test add-on (it's currently using [https://preview.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7522/]).--stephend
** I implemented an object-based memcaching framework. I'm currently writing a little documentation on it, so that it's easy to use for you.--[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
*** '''Update:''' I wrote the page and it's here: [[Update:Remora Database/Object Caching]]
** ACTION: Morgamic, please create some milestones: 4.0.3 and rename the "3.x (triaged)" to "4.x (triaged)".
* CDNetworks update
* AMO 4.0.2 Planning
** Laura won't be able to focus on discussions for 4.0.2 (pushing feature out)
** Still need API/bandwagon features for 4.0.2 [ACTION: Fligtar to file]
** Fennec stuff in 4.0.2?
* Bandwagon Update
** New add-on, Bandwagon v0.2 delivered - [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/bandwagon/BandwagonAddons-0.2.png see screenshot]

== Sep 10th ==
* Any question/issues with 4.0.1? (Obj invalidation needs some attention in order to nail a Monday code freeze)
* Candidate 4.0.2 bugs/enhancements ready
** Should we start on discussions now? Yes, laura to take
* AMO and Fennec - [[Fennec:Addons|See notes]]
* Dev Tools (Fligtar)
** Upload & Submission modules are done and ready for testing
** Remaining - reskinning the developer index page and details page
** Will push Dev tools with 4.0.1 - in beta/parallel mode
** Need to add L10N gettext() capability, will come 1 week after 4.0.1
** ACTION: testing strategy for dev tools (Fligtar, Stephen, Morgamic)
* Bandwagon/Collections Update (Fligtar)
** We've merged the projects, Alex will work on the webdev stuff
** ACTION: Fligtar to file API bugs needed to support bandwagon/collections
** Boriss working on mocks for weblists and feeds and then more advanced add-on capabilities
* Community Topics
** Editor revitalization plan (Rey)
** Dealing with the Backlog
** Upcoming Add-on Get togethers
*** [http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/08/toronto-mozcamp-workshops/ Moz Camp] - Toronto, Sep 15-16
*** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/MAOW Mozilla Add-ons Workshop] - Paris, Sep 20
*** [http://somethin-else.org/index.php?post/2008/08/20/Mozilla-Camp-Europe Moz Camp Europe] - Barcelona, Oct 25-26
*** Me.dium wants us to help sponsor a browser-agnostic add-on conference (Dec 11). Rey is investigating further.
* We have a student volunteer for the College Outreach Program
** Smita Periyapatna from SJSU - Yeah!
* Shifting IRC AMO Discussions to #amo
* Morgamic will be setting up a weekly? amo-dev meeting to discuss technical AMO topics/bugs

== Sep 3rd ==
* 4.0.1 - Status (on schedule)
* Extension lists & partner wizard on AMO (and how it ties into bandwagon leadwork)
* Defining "optimize"

== Aug 27th ==
* Next Release (4.0.1) - See [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/RevisedDevSchedule.pdf Morgamic's 3-week cycle template]
** Dev Start: Tue, Sep 2
** Code Freeze: Mon, Sep 15
** QA-Regression-Bug Fix thru to Thu, Sep 18
** Push: Thu, Sep 18th evening
** Planning for next release, Fri, Sep 19
** Next Cycle: Mon, Sep 22
* Reviewed the [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/Q3Roadmap.pdf Q3 AMO Roadmap] to see where we are - we are about ~70% of our intended goals
* Next-next Release (3.5.1/4.0.2) Candidate features
** Find-as-you-type
** FAQ
** Sexy search engines landing page
** Editor leaderboard
* What are we going to do with the "Addons" component in Bugzilla? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
** Mark as INVALID and tell them to contact author
** Have improved integration of Bugzilla and AMO and show in dev panel
** Talk to Tomcat
[http://shutterhost.com/places/amo/images/amo_karoke_png.jpg image of the week]

== Aug 20th ==
* AMO 3.4.7 release status - Wil will tag and file the push bug
* Release cycle - Morgamic is proposing a 3-week cycle to prevent last minute crunches and focusing on the push rather than starting the next dev cycle. Proposal to follow.
* TRUSTe proposal in hand
* Next maintenance release will be 3.5.1 - schedule TBD until we figure out the 4.0.1 stuff.
* 4.0.1 only has 1 perf-related bug. Basil to send email to IT to gather perf ideas and add to release - Morgamic/Wil to figure out who gets assigned what. Determine 3.5.1 effort and if it should be in parallel.
* Firefox Major Update readiness - will run full throttle unless there are issues. IT will be testing a new CDN network to aid
* AMO 3.5
** Preview manager was finished a couple weeks ago and Stephen has been QA'ing it and catching a few bugs that have now been fixed. The status changer is mostly finished, and that will be followed by the upload/submission tool which already has the backend done. Target date is 8/29.
* Bandwagon
** We have mockups to go off of now thanks to Boriss, so Brian King and team will start working on the first milestone which is purely extension development. Milestone 2 will begin to require webdev assistance from both website and API standpoints. Again, if you're interested in this project, just let Fligtar know and he'll add you to the Grouphub where the updated detailed schedule and requirements will be posted.

[http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff218/patyguaxupe/te-amo.jpg Image of the week]

== Aug 13th ==
* Review release status
** What's the schedule for 3.5? Answer: Awaiting Fligtar's return tomorrow, same status as last week - ETA for completion of Dev Tools is next Fri 8/22, then we need time for QA + L10N work and a push during a Sept maintenance window.
* Discussed [http://www.conduit.com Conduit]. Considering a controlled, limited return of a few Conduit toolbars to AMO.
* Discussed [http://www.TRUSTe.org TRUSTe]. Discussing with TRUSTe about a tiered certification program for add-ons and add-on authors
* Thank you and Farewell to Cesar! (XPI Diff launched, yeah! MyLists needs to find an SVN home)
* Discuss [[Update:Remora/Discussions_Revamp|discussions revamp]] - timeline for this? (Not 3.4.7 since we're still planning).
* Can we do a broadcast email to nom queue folks? Yes, Cesar to help out with the query.

== Aug 6th ==
* Three parallel releases - 3.4.7 (features/bug fixes), 4.0.1 (performance) and 3.5 (dev tools)
* AMO 3.4.7
** Enable Vanilla discussions? ACTION: Laura will build wiki page and we'll dump Vanilla for a custom system.
** '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 4.0.1
** {VERY Tentative: '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''}
* AMO 3.5 Status
** Status Manager in progress, Upload Manager remains to be done. ETA is Fri, 8/22 for code complete, need time for QA, L10N. Public push date in Sep to give time for L10N. (Justin has vacation time)
* Push for this Thu, 8/7? (XPI Differ, other?)
* Starting work on "Bandwagon" (Add-on Sharing)

== July 30th ==
* No meeting due to Firefox Summit

== July 23rd ==
* AMO 3.4.6 - how are we doing?
** Enable Vanilla Discussions?
** Replace Vanilla by a simple forum we make ourselves? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Discuss AMO/Add-ons session @ [[Summit2008/Sessions/Schedule|Fx Summit]]
* Next week's meeting?

== July 16th ==
* AMO 3.4.6 status
* Justin to walk thru the "Add-on Sharing Proposal"
* No love from Urchin - still missing data from launch (escalated), last few days are at half of total. :-(
** Sounds like {{bug|444948}} -- the SJ AMO logs were moved to a different directory and they didn't update Urchin. -flig
* rdoherty, are you willing to take on {{bug|434540}}? (yes)
* 1 or 2 stability releases? (rdoherty)

== July 9th ==
* Readiness for AMO 3.4.5 release on Thu, 7/10 evening
* AMO 3.4.6 - '''Code Freeze - 7/21 (11:59pm), push: 7/24'''
* Offer extended to AMO Community Manager
* Metrics:
** Pageviews spike from Fx3 is waning...seeing 6M PV's now
** Ping & Download counts are trending downwards according to Moz dashboard - checking with IT for possible causes
* Performance branch testing & merging - need to determine which release it can be merged with.
* ACTION: Wil will tag and <s>justin to file an IT ticket</s> - {{bug|444378}}

== July 2nd ==
* Determine new AMO 3.4.5 dates - Candi-dates: '''Code Freeze: 7/7, Push: 7/10'''
** stephend on vacation from 7/7-7/11 (bug verifications graciously covered by juanb and ss - thanks guys!)
** Fx3 users are still suffering under {{bug|437174}} (error 261), and will continue so until a Firefox update is released. Should we add a message to the install button, linking to a wiki page (or so) explaining that they need to switch on third-party cookies if they receive this error? This would only show when logged in, for experimental add-ons. --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Urchin is back up (sorta), we have about 8M daily page views (about 2x what we had prior to Fx 3 launch)
* Draft Q3 goals for discussion:
** Launch three AMO dot releases / execute to [[Update:Roadmap|roadmap]] & triaged bug lists (with webdev)
** Rollout at least one end user engagement project
** Conduct Add-on Developer Survey
** Rollout revised AMO Developer Tools (with webdev)
** Move site metrics to Urchin 6 (with IT)
** Prototype a Pentaho-based AMO dashboard (with IT)
* Draft terms of service available for moz.com/moz.org, need to add AMO API and AMO user-specific conditional sections. Outside legal is working on it.
* Rotated the reco list - [http://blog.mozilla.com/basil/2008/07/01/featured-add-ons-rotation-for-july-2008/ blogged about it]
* ACTION: Basil to setup bug triage times to help with release/feature scheduling.

= Earlier Meeting Notes =
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Apr 2008-Jun 2008|Archive April 2008-June 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Nov 07-Mar 2008|Archive November 2007-March 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2007|Archive October-November 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2007|Archive August-September 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Dec-Jul 2007|Archive December 2006-July 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2006|Archive October-November 2006]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2006|Archive August-September 2006]]

PFS:Policy

2008-09-30T02:01:14Z

Bhashem:

__NOTOC__

This policy outlines how Mozilla handles plugins offered through the plugin finder service, [[PFS]].

= Tier 1: Mozilla Recommended Plugins =
A '''recommended''' plugin is defined as a plugin in which an installation to handle unknown content is presented and installed on-demand, with '''minimal''' interaction from the user.

== Criteria for becoming a Recommended Plugin ==
* Very wide use
* Proven stable and reliable
* Lots of content will be unsupported without the plugin
* Supported by vendors who work directly with Mozilla

=== Suggested Recommended Plugins ===
* Adobe Flash Player
* Apple QuickTime
* Flip4Mac
* Java Runtime Environment
* Windows Media Player
* Adobe Acrobat Reader, Shockwave
* Real Networks RealPlayer
* DivX

= Tier 2: Mozilla Approved Plugins =
An '''approved''' plugin is defined as a plugin in which distribution happens natively, on-demand, after presenting the user with choices from approved partners.

== Criteria for becoming an Approved Plugin ==
* Reputable source
* Evaluated by Mozilla
* Rich community around plugin

== Suggested Approved Plugins ==
* MathML
* Viewpoint Media Player
* XStandard XHTML WYSIWYG Editor
* DNL Reader
* Microsoft Silverlight
* Real Networks, RA/VE
* Joost
* Novell/Moonlight
* SpaceTrader
* Photodex
* DreamFactory
* DF Splash

= Tier 3: Third-Party Plugins =
A '''third party''' plugin is defined as a plugin in which distribution happens by Mozilla or the vendors website. Mozilla will list them in a directory that is searchable by name or MIME type but does not support or recommend any of these third-party plugins.

Third-Party plugins may apply to be approved if they go through the review process.

== Criteria for Third Party Plugins ==
* None

== Suggested Third-Party Plugins ==
* Google Lively
* [http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/windows-all.html Plugins like these]

AMO:Meeting Notes

2008-09-24T08:33:46Z

Bhashem: /* Sep 24 */

[[Update:Remora|« Back to Update:Remora]]

== AMO Project Meeting Details ==
<pre>
Wednesdays, 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern
1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) or 1-650-215-1282 or 1-650-903-0800
Conferencing Center: x91
Conference ID: 261</pre>

== Common AMO Bugzilla Queries ==
* AMO 3.5 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Code Complete - Fri, 8/29, push: Thu, TBD'''
* AMO 4.0.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO4.0.1-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, Sep 15 (11:59pm), push: Thu, Sep 18'''
* AMO 4.0.2 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.2&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.2&query_based_on=AMO4.0.2-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, Oct 6 (11:59pm), push: Thu, Oct 9'''

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== Sep 24 ==
* AMO 4.0.2 execution
* Developer Survey results to be shared this week
* We now have an Extended Validation (EV) cert on AMO, requires Firefox 3.0.2 in order to see it - will boost end user confidence in the site.
* Review draft Q4 AMO Goals
** For Users:
*** Basic AMO support for Fennec per plan
*** Complete Phase 2 of Bandwagon (Collections & Iteration 1 of Add-on)
*** Add-on Licensing clarity
*** Support for non-AMO hosted add-ons (breadth)
*** Revise AMO search: new algo, new engine, new landing page
*** PFS Rearchitecture/Revamp
** For Devs:
*** Reduce approval queue sizes/review process
*** Code Repo (mxr) for open source add-ons
*** Single DMZ Mac for remote add-on testing by editors
** With Stats:
*** Rollout production add-ons dashboard for aggregate stats (with IT)?
*** AMO Public Stats Dashboard (editor queue length, overall stats)

== Sep 18th (dev) ==
* summary of the [[Update:Remora Database/Object Caching|object-level caching changes]]
* tips on how the test cluster works and how to use it via [[Melanion]]
* [http://morgamic.com/2008/06/12/profiling-php-with-xdebug-and-webgrind/ short tutorial on xdebug and webgrind] on khan
* Does anyone else find firebot in #amo annoying? --clouserw
** Discussion on amo-editors boils down to "please switch its automated bug spam off, but keep the bot around for specific lookups". --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
** firebot's bug spam is switched off.
* Discuss [[QA/Tools/Selenium/AMO Automation|Selenium tests]] and how to integrate with SimpleTest

== Sep 17th ==
* AMO 4.0.1 Dev & Testing Status
** I have Selenium tests for the Dev CP, but I need to convert them to use a new account (don't want to give up my password), with its associated dummy test add-on (it's currently using [https://preview.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7522/]).--stephend
** I implemented an object-based memcaching framework. I'm currently writing a little documentation on it, so that it's easy to use for you.--[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
*** '''Update:''' I wrote the page and it's here: [[Update:Remora Database/Object Caching]]
** ACTION: Morgamic, please create some milestones: 4.0.3 and rename the "3.x (triaged)" to "4.x (triaged)".
* CDNetworks update
* AMO 4.0.2 Planning
** Laura won't be able to focus on discussions for 4.0.2 (pushing feature out)
** Still need API/bandwagon features for 4.0.2 [ACTION: Fligtar to file]
** Fennec stuff in 4.0.2?
* Bandwagon Update
** New add-on, Bandwagon v0.2 delivered - [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/bandwagon/BandwagonAddons-0.2.png see screenshot]

== Sep 10th ==
* Any question/issues with 4.0.1? (Obj invalidation needs some attention in order to nail a Monday code freeze)
* Candidate 4.0.2 bugs/enhancements ready
** Should we start on discussions now? Yes, laura to take
* AMO and Fennec - [[Fennec:Addons|See notes]]
* Dev Tools (Fligtar)
** Upload & Submission modules are done and ready for testing
** Remaining - reskinning the developer index page and details page
** Will push Dev tools with 4.0.1 - in beta/parallel mode
** Need to add L10N gettext() capability, will come 1 week after 4.0.1
** ACTION: testing strategy for dev tools (Fligtar, Stephen, Morgamic)
* Bandwagon/Collections Update (Fligtar)
** We've merged the projects, Alex will work on the webdev stuff
** ACTION: Fligtar to file API bugs needed to support bandwagon/collections
** Boriss working on mocks for weblists and feeds and then more advanced add-on capabilities
* Community Topics
** Editor revitalization plan (Rey)
** Dealing with the Backlog
** Upcoming Add-on Get togethers
*** [http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/08/toronto-mozcamp-workshops/ Moz Camp] - Toronto, Sep 15-16
*** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/MAOW Mozilla Add-ons Workshop] - Paris, Sep 20
*** [http://somethin-else.org/index.php?post/2008/08/20/Mozilla-Camp-Europe Moz Camp Europe] - Barcelona, Oct 25-26
*** Me.dium wants us to help sponsor a browser-agnostic add-on conference (Dec 11). Rey is investigating further.
* We have a student volunteer for the College Outreach Program
** Smita Periyapatna from SJSU - Yeah!
* Shifting IRC AMO Discussions to #amo
* Morgamic will be setting up a weekly? amo-dev meeting to discuss technical AMO topics/bugs

== Sep 3rd ==
* 4.0.1 - Status (on schedule)
* Extension lists & partner wizard on AMO (and how it ties into bandwagon leadwork)
* Defining "optimize"

== Aug 27th ==
* Next Release (4.0.1) - See [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/RevisedDevSchedule.pdf Morgamic's 3-week cycle template]
** Dev Start: Tue, Sep 2
** Code Freeze: Mon, Sep 15
** QA-Regression-Bug Fix thru to Thu, Sep 18
** Push: Thu, Sep 18th evening
** Planning for next release, Fri, Sep 19
** Next Cycle: Mon, Sep 22
* Reviewed the [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/Q3Roadmap.pdf Q3 AMO Roadmap] to see where we are - we are about ~70% of our intended goals
* Next-next Release (3.5.1/4.0.2) Candidate features
** Find-as-you-type
** FAQ
** Sexy search engines landing page
** Editor leaderboard
* What are we going to do with the "Addons" component in Bugzilla? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
** Mark as INVALID and tell them to contact author
** Have improved integration of Bugzilla and AMO and show in dev panel
** Talk to Tomcat
[http://shutterhost.com/places/amo/images/amo_karoke_png.jpg image of the week]

== Aug 20th ==
* AMO 3.4.7 release status - Wil will tag and file the push bug
* Release cycle - Morgamic is proposing a 3-week cycle to prevent last minute crunches and focusing on the push rather than starting the next dev cycle. Proposal to follow.
* TRUSTe proposal in hand
* Next maintenance release will be 3.5.1 - schedule TBD until we figure out the 4.0.1 stuff.
* 4.0.1 only has 1 perf-related bug. Basil to send email to IT to gather perf ideas and add to release - Morgamic/Wil to figure out who gets assigned what. Determine 3.5.1 effort and if it should be in parallel.
* Firefox Major Update readiness - will run full throttle unless there are issues. IT will be testing a new CDN network to aid
* AMO 3.5
** Preview manager was finished a couple weeks ago and Stephen has been QA'ing it and catching a few bugs that have now been fixed. The status changer is mostly finished, and that will be followed by the upload/submission tool which already has the backend done. Target date is 8/29.
* Bandwagon
** We have mockups to go off of now thanks to Boriss, so Brian King and team will start working on the first milestone which is purely extension development. Milestone 2 will begin to require webdev assistance from both website and API standpoints. Again, if you're interested in this project, just let Fligtar know and he'll add you to the Grouphub where the updated detailed schedule and requirements will be posted.

[http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff218/patyguaxupe/te-amo.jpg Image of the week]

== Aug 13th ==
* Review release status
** What's the schedule for 3.5? Answer: Awaiting Fligtar's return tomorrow, same status as last week - ETA for completion of Dev Tools is next Fri 8/22, then we need time for QA + L10N work and a push during a Sept maintenance window.
* Discussed [http://www.conduit.com Conduit]. Considering a controlled, limited return of a few Conduit toolbars to AMO.
* Discussed [http://www.TRUSTe.org TRUSTe]. Discussing with TRUSTe about a tiered certification program for add-ons and add-on authors
* Thank you and Farewell to Cesar! (XPI Diff launched, yeah! MyLists needs to find an SVN home)
* Discuss [[Update:Remora/Discussions_Revamp|discussions revamp]] - timeline for this? (Not 3.4.7 since we're still planning).
* Can we do a broadcast email to nom queue folks? Yes, Cesar to help out with the query.

== Aug 6th ==
* Three parallel releases - 3.4.7 (features/bug fixes), 4.0.1 (performance) and 3.5 (dev tools)
* AMO 3.4.7
** Enable Vanilla discussions? ACTION: Laura will build wiki page and we'll dump Vanilla for a custom system.
** '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 4.0.1
** {VERY Tentative: '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''}
* AMO 3.5 Status
** Status Manager in progress, Upload Manager remains to be done. ETA is Fri, 8/22 for code complete, need time for QA, L10N. Public push date in Sep to give time for L10N. (Justin has vacation time)
* Push for this Thu, 8/7? (XPI Differ, other?)
* Starting work on "Bandwagon" (Add-on Sharing)

== July 30th ==
* No meeting due to Firefox Summit

== July 23rd ==
* AMO 3.4.6 - how are we doing?
** Enable Vanilla Discussions?
** Replace Vanilla by a simple forum we make ourselves? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Discuss AMO/Add-ons session @ [[Summit2008/Sessions/Schedule|Fx Summit]]
* Next week's meeting?

== July 16th ==
* AMO 3.4.6 status
* Justin to walk thru the "Add-on Sharing Proposal"
* No love from Urchin - still missing data from launch (escalated), last few days are at half of total. :-(
** Sounds like {{bug|444948}} -- the SJ AMO logs were moved to a different directory and they didn't update Urchin. -flig
* rdoherty, are you willing to take on {{bug|434540}}? (yes)
* 1 or 2 stability releases? (rdoherty)

== July 9th ==
* Readiness for AMO 3.4.5 release on Thu, 7/10 evening
* AMO 3.4.6 - '''Code Freeze - 7/21 (11:59pm), push: 7/24'''
* Offer extended to AMO Community Manager
* Metrics:
** Pageviews spike from Fx3 is waning...seeing 6M PV's now
** Ping & Download counts are trending downwards according to Moz dashboard - checking with IT for possible causes
* Performance branch testing & merging - need to determine which release it can be merged with.
* ACTION: Wil will tag and <s>justin to file an IT ticket</s> - {{bug|444378}}

== July 2nd ==
* Determine new AMO 3.4.5 dates - Candi-dates: '''Code Freeze: 7/7, Push: 7/10'''
** stephend on vacation from 7/7-7/11 (bug verifications graciously covered by juanb and ss - thanks guys!)
** Fx3 users are still suffering under {{bug|437174}} (error 261), and will continue so until a Firefox update is released. Should we add a message to the install button, linking to a wiki page (or so) explaining that they need to switch on third-party cookies if they receive this error? This would only show when logged in, for experimental add-ons. --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Urchin is back up (sorta), we have about 8M daily page views (about 2x what we had prior to Fx 3 launch)
* Draft Q3 goals for discussion:
** Launch three AMO dot releases / execute to [[Update:Roadmap|roadmap]] & triaged bug lists (with webdev)
** Rollout at least one end user engagement project
** Conduct Add-on Developer Survey
** Rollout revised AMO Developer Tools (with webdev)
** Move site metrics to Urchin 6 (with IT)
** Prototype a Pentaho-based AMO dashboard (with IT)
* Draft terms of service available for moz.com/moz.org, need to add AMO API and AMO user-specific conditional sections. Outside legal is working on it.
* Rotated the reco list - [http://blog.mozilla.com/basil/2008/07/01/featured-add-ons-rotation-for-july-2008/ blogged about it]
* ACTION: Basil to setup bug triage times to help with release/feature scheduling.

= Earlier Meeting Notes =
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Apr 2008-Jun 2008|Archive April 2008-June 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Nov 07-Mar 2008|Archive November 2007-March 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2007|Archive October-November 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2007|Archive August-September 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Dec-Jul 2007|Archive December 2006-July 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2006|Archive October-November 2006]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2006|Archive August-September 2006]]

AMO:Meeting Notes

2008-09-24T08:29:36Z

Bhashem: /* Sep 24 */

[[Update:Remora|« Back to Update:Remora]]

== AMO Project Meeting Details ==
<pre>
Wednesdays, 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern
1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) or 1-650-215-1282 or 1-650-903-0800
Conferencing Center: x91
Conference ID: 261</pre>

== Common AMO Bugzilla Queries ==
* AMO 3.5 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Code Complete - Fri, 8/29, push: Thu, TBD'''
* AMO 4.0.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO4.0.1-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, Sep 15 (11:59pm), push: Thu, Sep 18'''
* AMO 4.0.2 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.2&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.2&query_based_on=AMO4.0.2-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, Oct 6 (11:59pm), push: Thu, Oct 9'''

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== Sep 24 ==
* AMO 4.0.2 execution
* Developer Survey results to be shared this week
* We now have an Extended Validation (EV) cert on AMO, requires Firefox 3.0.2 in order to see it - will boost end user confidence in the site.
* Review draft Q4 AMO Goals
** For Users:
*** Basic AMO support for Fennec per plan
*** Complete Phase 2 of Bandwagon (Collections & Iteration 1 of Add-on)
*** Add-on Licensing clarity
*** Support for non-AMO hosted add-ons (breadth)
*** Revise AMO search: new algo, new engine, new landing page
*** PFS Rearchitecture/Revamp
** For Devs:
*** Reduce nomination queue size (by hook or crook)
*** Code Repo (mxr) for open source add-ons
*** Single DMZ Mac for remote add-on testing by editors
** With Stats:
*** Rollout production add-ons dashboard for aggregate stats (with IT)?
*** AMO Public Stats Dashboard (editor queue length, overall stats)

== Sep 18th (dev) ==
* summary of the [[Update:Remora Database/Object Caching|object-level caching changes]]
* tips on how the test cluster works and how to use it via [[Melanion]]
* [http://morgamic.com/2008/06/12/profiling-php-with-xdebug-and-webgrind/ short tutorial on xdebug and webgrind] on khan
* Does anyone else find firebot in #amo annoying? --clouserw
** Discussion on amo-editors boils down to "please switch its automated bug spam off, but keep the bot around for specific lookups". --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
** firebot's bug spam is switched off.
* Discuss [[QA/Tools/Selenium/AMO Automation|Selenium tests]] and how to integrate with SimpleTest

== Sep 17th ==
* AMO 4.0.1 Dev & Testing Status
** I have Selenium tests for the Dev CP, but I need to convert them to use a new account (don't want to give up my password), with its associated dummy test add-on (it's currently using [https://preview.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7522/]).--stephend
** I implemented an object-based memcaching framework. I'm currently writing a little documentation on it, so that it's easy to use for you.--[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
*** '''Update:''' I wrote the page and it's here: [[Update:Remora Database/Object Caching]]
** ACTION: Morgamic, please create some milestones: 4.0.3 and rename the "3.x (triaged)" to "4.x (triaged)".
* CDNetworks update
* AMO 4.0.2 Planning
** Laura won't be able to focus on discussions for 4.0.2 (pushing feature out)
** Still need API/bandwagon features for 4.0.2 [ACTION: Fligtar to file]
** Fennec stuff in 4.0.2?
* Bandwagon Update
** New add-on, Bandwagon v0.2 delivered - [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/bandwagon/BandwagonAddons-0.2.png see screenshot]

== Sep 10th ==
* Any question/issues with 4.0.1? (Obj invalidation needs some attention in order to nail a Monday code freeze)
* Candidate 4.0.2 bugs/enhancements ready
** Should we start on discussions now? Yes, laura to take
* AMO and Fennec - [[Fennec:Addons|See notes]]
* Dev Tools (Fligtar)
** Upload & Submission modules are done and ready for testing
** Remaining - reskinning the developer index page and details page
** Will push Dev tools with 4.0.1 - in beta/parallel mode
** Need to add L10N gettext() capability, will come 1 week after 4.0.1
** ACTION: testing strategy for dev tools (Fligtar, Stephen, Morgamic)
* Bandwagon/Collections Update (Fligtar)
** We've merged the projects, Alex will work on the webdev stuff
** ACTION: Fligtar to file API bugs needed to support bandwagon/collections
** Boriss working on mocks for weblists and feeds and then more advanced add-on capabilities
* Community Topics
** Editor revitalization plan (Rey)
** Dealing with the Backlog
** Upcoming Add-on Get togethers
*** [http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/08/toronto-mozcamp-workshops/ Moz Camp] - Toronto, Sep 15-16
*** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/MAOW Mozilla Add-ons Workshop] - Paris, Sep 20
*** [http://somethin-else.org/index.php?post/2008/08/20/Mozilla-Camp-Europe Moz Camp Europe] - Barcelona, Oct 25-26
*** Me.dium wants us to help sponsor a browser-agnostic add-on conference (Dec 11). Rey is investigating further.
* We have a student volunteer for the College Outreach Program
** Smita Periyapatna from SJSU - Yeah!
* Shifting IRC AMO Discussions to #amo
* Morgamic will be setting up a weekly? amo-dev meeting to discuss technical AMO topics/bugs

== Sep 3rd ==
* 4.0.1 - Status (on schedule)
* Extension lists & partner wizard on AMO (and how it ties into bandwagon leadwork)
* Defining "optimize"

== Aug 27th ==
* Next Release (4.0.1) - See [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/RevisedDevSchedule.pdf Morgamic's 3-week cycle template]
** Dev Start: Tue, Sep 2
** Code Freeze: Mon, Sep 15
** QA-Regression-Bug Fix thru to Thu, Sep 18
** Push: Thu, Sep 18th evening
** Planning for next release, Fri, Sep 19
** Next Cycle: Mon, Sep 22
* Reviewed the [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/Q3Roadmap.pdf Q3 AMO Roadmap] to see where we are - we are about ~70% of our intended goals
* Next-next Release (3.5.1/4.0.2) Candidate features
** Find-as-you-type
** FAQ
** Sexy search engines landing page
** Editor leaderboard
* What are we going to do with the "Addons" component in Bugzilla? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
** Mark as INVALID and tell them to contact author
** Have improved integration of Bugzilla and AMO and show in dev panel
** Talk to Tomcat
[http://shutterhost.com/places/amo/images/amo_karoke_png.jpg image of the week]

== Aug 20th ==
* AMO 3.4.7 release status - Wil will tag and file the push bug
* Release cycle - Morgamic is proposing a 3-week cycle to prevent last minute crunches and focusing on the push rather than starting the next dev cycle. Proposal to follow.
* TRUSTe proposal in hand
* Next maintenance release will be 3.5.1 - schedule TBD until we figure out the 4.0.1 stuff.
* 4.0.1 only has 1 perf-related bug. Basil to send email to IT to gather perf ideas and add to release - Morgamic/Wil to figure out who gets assigned what. Determine 3.5.1 effort and if it should be in parallel.
* Firefox Major Update readiness - will run full throttle unless there are issues. IT will be testing a new CDN network to aid
* AMO 3.5
** Preview manager was finished a couple weeks ago and Stephen has been QA'ing it and catching a few bugs that have now been fixed. The status changer is mostly finished, and that will be followed by the upload/submission tool which already has the backend done. Target date is 8/29.
* Bandwagon
** We have mockups to go off of now thanks to Boriss, so Brian King and team will start working on the first milestone which is purely extension development. Milestone 2 will begin to require webdev assistance from both website and API standpoints. Again, if you're interested in this project, just let Fligtar know and he'll add you to the Grouphub where the updated detailed schedule and requirements will be posted.

[http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff218/patyguaxupe/te-amo.jpg Image of the week]

== Aug 13th ==
* Review release status
** What's the schedule for 3.5? Answer: Awaiting Fligtar's return tomorrow, same status as last week - ETA for completion of Dev Tools is next Fri 8/22, then we need time for QA + L10N work and a push during a Sept maintenance window.
* Discussed [http://www.conduit.com Conduit]. Considering a controlled, limited return of a few Conduit toolbars to AMO.
* Discussed [http://www.TRUSTe.org TRUSTe]. Discussing with TRUSTe about a tiered certification program for add-ons and add-on authors
* Thank you and Farewell to Cesar! (XPI Diff launched, yeah! MyLists needs to find an SVN home)
* Discuss [[Update:Remora/Discussions_Revamp|discussions revamp]] - timeline for this? (Not 3.4.7 since we're still planning).
* Can we do a broadcast email to nom queue folks? Yes, Cesar to help out with the query.

== Aug 6th ==
* Three parallel releases - 3.4.7 (features/bug fixes), 4.0.1 (performance) and 3.5 (dev tools)
* AMO 3.4.7
** Enable Vanilla discussions? ACTION: Laura will build wiki page and we'll dump Vanilla for a custom system.
** '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 4.0.1
** {VERY Tentative: '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''}
* AMO 3.5 Status
** Status Manager in progress, Upload Manager remains to be done. ETA is Fri, 8/22 for code complete, need time for QA, L10N. Public push date in Sep to give time for L10N. (Justin has vacation time)
* Push for this Thu, 8/7? (XPI Differ, other?)
* Starting work on "Bandwagon" (Add-on Sharing)

== July 30th ==
* No meeting due to Firefox Summit

== July 23rd ==
* AMO 3.4.6 - how are we doing?
** Enable Vanilla Discussions?
** Replace Vanilla by a simple forum we make ourselves? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Discuss AMO/Add-ons session @ [[Summit2008/Sessions/Schedule|Fx Summit]]
* Next week's meeting?

== July 16th ==
* AMO 3.4.6 status
* Justin to walk thru the "Add-on Sharing Proposal"
* No love from Urchin - still missing data from launch (escalated), last few days are at half of total. :-(
** Sounds like {{bug|444948}} -- the SJ AMO logs were moved to a different directory and they didn't update Urchin. -flig
* rdoherty, are you willing to take on {{bug|434540}}? (yes)
* 1 or 2 stability releases? (rdoherty)

== July 9th ==
* Readiness for AMO 3.4.5 release on Thu, 7/10 evening
* AMO 3.4.6 - '''Code Freeze - 7/21 (11:59pm), push: 7/24'''
* Offer extended to AMO Community Manager
* Metrics:
** Pageviews spike from Fx3 is waning...seeing 6M PV's now
** Ping & Download counts are trending downwards according to Moz dashboard - checking with IT for possible causes
* Performance branch testing & merging - need to determine which release it can be merged with.
* ACTION: Wil will tag and <s>justin to file an IT ticket</s> - {{bug|444378}}

== July 2nd ==
* Determine new AMO 3.4.5 dates - Candi-dates: '''Code Freeze: 7/7, Push: 7/10'''
** stephend on vacation from 7/7-7/11 (bug verifications graciously covered by juanb and ss - thanks guys!)
** Fx3 users are still suffering under {{bug|437174}} (error 261), and will continue so until a Firefox update is released. Should we add a message to the install button, linking to a wiki page (or so) explaining that they need to switch on third-party cookies if they receive this error? This would only show when logged in, for experimental add-ons. --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Urchin is back up (sorta), we have about 8M daily page views (about 2x what we had prior to Fx 3 launch)
* Draft Q3 goals for discussion:
** Launch three AMO dot releases / execute to [[Update:Roadmap|roadmap]] & triaged bug lists (with webdev)
** Rollout at least one end user engagement project
** Conduct Add-on Developer Survey
** Rollout revised AMO Developer Tools (with webdev)
** Move site metrics to Urchin 6 (with IT)
** Prototype a Pentaho-based AMO dashboard (with IT)
* Draft terms of service available for moz.com/moz.org, need to add AMO API and AMO user-specific conditional sections. Outside legal is working on it.
* Rotated the reco list - [http://blog.mozilla.com/basil/2008/07/01/featured-add-ons-rotation-for-july-2008/ blogged about it]
* ACTION: Basil to setup bug triage times to help with release/feature scheduling.

= Earlier Meeting Notes =
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Apr 2008-Jun 2008|Archive April 2008-June 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Nov 07-Mar 2008|Archive November 2007-March 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2007|Archive October-November 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2007|Archive August-September 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Dec-Jul 2007|Archive December 2006-July 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2006|Archive October-November 2006]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2006|Archive August-September 2006]]

AMO:Meeting Notes

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== AMO Project Meeting Details ==
<pre>
Wednesdays, 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern
1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) or 1-650-215-1282 or 1-650-903-0800
Conferencing Center: x91
Conference ID: 261</pre>

== Common AMO Bugzilla Queries ==
* AMO 3.5 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Code Complete - Fri, 8/29, push: Thu, TBD'''
* AMO 4.0.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO4.0.1-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, Sep 15 (11:59pm), push: Thu, Sep 18'''
* AMO 4.0.2 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.2&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.2&query_based_on=AMO4.0.2-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, Oct 6 (11:59pm), push: Thu, Oct 9'''

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== Sep 24 ==
* AMO 4.0.2 execution
* Developer Survey results to be shared this week
* We now have an Extended Validation (EV) cert on AMO, requires Firefox 3.0.2 in order to see it - will boost end user confidence in the site.

== Sep 18th (dev) ==
* summary of the [[Update:Remora Database/Object Caching|object-level caching changes]]
* tips on how the test cluster works and how to use it via [[Melanion]]
* [http://morgamic.com/2008/06/12/profiling-php-with-xdebug-and-webgrind/ short tutorial on xdebug and webgrind] on khan
* Does anyone else find firebot in #amo annoying? --clouserw
** Discussion on amo-editors boils down to "please switch its automated bug spam off, but keep the bot around for specific lookups". --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
** firebot's bug spam is switched off.
* Discuss [[QA/Tools/Selenium/AMO Automation|Selenium tests]] and how to integrate with SimpleTest

== Sep 17th ==
* AMO 4.0.1 Dev & Testing Status
** I have Selenium tests for the Dev CP, but I need to convert them to use a new account (don't want to give up my password), with its associated dummy test add-on (it's currently using [https://preview.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7522/]).--stephend
** I implemented an object-based memcaching framework. I'm currently writing a little documentation on it, so that it's easy to use for you.--[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
*** '''Update:''' I wrote the page and it's here: [[Update:Remora Database/Object Caching]]
** ACTION: Morgamic, please create some milestones: 4.0.3 and rename the "3.x (triaged)" to "4.x (triaged)".
* CDNetworks update
* AMO 4.0.2 Planning
** Laura won't be able to focus on discussions for 4.0.2 (pushing feature out)
** Still need API/bandwagon features for 4.0.2 [ACTION: Fligtar to file]
** Fennec stuff in 4.0.2?
* Bandwagon Update
** New add-on, Bandwagon v0.2 delivered - [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/bandwagon/BandwagonAddons-0.2.png see screenshot]

== Sep 10th ==
* Any question/issues with 4.0.1? (Obj invalidation needs some attention in order to nail a Monday code freeze)
* Candidate 4.0.2 bugs/enhancements ready
** Should we start on discussions now? Yes, laura to take
* AMO and Fennec - [[Fennec:Addons|See notes]]
* Dev Tools (Fligtar)
** Upload & Submission modules are done and ready for testing
** Remaining - reskinning the developer index page and details page
** Will push Dev tools with 4.0.1 - in beta/parallel mode
** Need to add L10N gettext() capability, will come 1 week after 4.0.1
** ACTION: testing strategy for dev tools (Fligtar, Stephen, Morgamic)
* Bandwagon/Collections Update (Fligtar)
** We've merged the projects, Alex will work on the webdev stuff
** ACTION: Fligtar to file API bugs needed to support bandwagon/collections
** Boriss working on mocks for weblists and feeds and then more advanced add-on capabilities
* Community Topics
** Editor revitalization plan (Rey)
** Dealing with the Backlog
** Upcoming Add-on Get togethers
*** [http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/08/toronto-mozcamp-workshops/ Moz Camp] - Toronto, Sep 15-16
*** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/MAOW Mozilla Add-ons Workshop] - Paris, Sep 20
*** [http://somethin-else.org/index.php?post/2008/08/20/Mozilla-Camp-Europe Moz Camp Europe] - Barcelona, Oct 25-26
*** Me.dium wants us to help sponsor a browser-agnostic add-on conference (Dec 11). Rey is investigating further.
* We have a student volunteer for the College Outreach Program
** Smita Periyapatna from SJSU - Yeah!
* Shifting IRC AMO Discussions to #amo
* Morgamic will be setting up a weekly? amo-dev meeting to discuss technical AMO topics/bugs

== Sep 3rd ==
* 4.0.1 - Status (on schedule)
* Extension lists & partner wizard on AMO (and how it ties into bandwagon leadwork)
* Defining "optimize"

== Aug 27th ==
* Next Release (4.0.1) - See [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/RevisedDevSchedule.pdf Morgamic's 3-week cycle template]
** Dev Start: Tue, Sep 2
** Code Freeze: Mon, Sep 15
** QA-Regression-Bug Fix thru to Thu, Sep 18
** Push: Thu, Sep 18th evening
** Planning for next release, Fri, Sep 19
** Next Cycle: Mon, Sep 22
* Reviewed the [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/Q3Roadmap.pdf Q3 AMO Roadmap] to see where we are - we are about ~70% of our intended goals
* Next-next Release (3.5.1/4.0.2) Candidate features
** Find-as-you-type
** FAQ
** Sexy search engines landing page
** Editor leaderboard
* What are we going to do with the "Addons" component in Bugzilla? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
** Mark as INVALID and tell them to contact author
** Have improved integration of Bugzilla and AMO and show in dev panel
** Talk to Tomcat
[http://shutterhost.com/places/amo/images/amo_karoke_png.jpg image of the week]

== Aug 20th ==
* AMO 3.4.7 release status - Wil will tag and file the push bug
* Release cycle - Morgamic is proposing a 3-week cycle to prevent last minute crunches and focusing on the push rather than starting the next dev cycle. Proposal to follow.
* TRUSTe proposal in hand
* Next maintenance release will be 3.5.1 - schedule TBD until we figure out the 4.0.1 stuff.
* 4.0.1 only has 1 perf-related bug. Basil to send email to IT to gather perf ideas and add to release - Morgamic/Wil to figure out who gets assigned what. Determine 3.5.1 effort and if it should be in parallel.
* Firefox Major Update readiness - will run full throttle unless there are issues. IT will be testing a new CDN network to aid
* AMO 3.5
** Preview manager was finished a couple weeks ago and Stephen has been QA'ing it and catching a few bugs that have now been fixed. The status changer is mostly finished, and that will be followed by the upload/submission tool which already has the backend done. Target date is 8/29.
* Bandwagon
** We have mockups to go off of now thanks to Boriss, so Brian King and team will start working on the first milestone which is purely extension development. Milestone 2 will begin to require webdev assistance from both website and API standpoints. Again, if you're interested in this project, just let Fligtar know and he'll add you to the Grouphub where the updated detailed schedule and requirements will be posted.

[http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff218/patyguaxupe/te-amo.jpg Image of the week]

== Aug 13th ==
* Review release status
** What's the schedule for 3.5? Answer: Awaiting Fligtar's return tomorrow, same status as last week - ETA for completion of Dev Tools is next Fri 8/22, then we need time for QA + L10N work and a push during a Sept maintenance window.
* Discussed [http://www.conduit.com Conduit]. Considering a controlled, limited return of a few Conduit toolbars to AMO.
* Discussed [http://www.TRUSTe.org TRUSTe]. Discussing with TRUSTe about a tiered certification program for add-ons and add-on authors
* Thank you and Farewell to Cesar! (XPI Diff launched, yeah! MyLists needs to find an SVN home)
* Discuss [[Update:Remora/Discussions_Revamp|discussions revamp]] - timeline for this? (Not 3.4.7 since we're still planning).
* Can we do a broadcast email to nom queue folks? Yes, Cesar to help out with the query.

== Aug 6th ==
* Three parallel releases - 3.4.7 (features/bug fixes), 4.0.1 (performance) and 3.5 (dev tools)
* AMO 3.4.7
** Enable Vanilla discussions? ACTION: Laura will build wiki page and we'll dump Vanilla for a custom system.
** '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 4.0.1
** {VERY Tentative: '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''}
* AMO 3.5 Status
** Status Manager in progress, Upload Manager remains to be done. ETA is Fri, 8/22 for code complete, need time for QA, L10N. Public push date in Sep to give time for L10N. (Justin has vacation time)
* Push for this Thu, 8/7? (XPI Differ, other?)
* Starting work on "Bandwagon" (Add-on Sharing)

== July 30th ==
* No meeting due to Firefox Summit

== July 23rd ==
* AMO 3.4.6 - how are we doing?
** Enable Vanilla Discussions?
** Replace Vanilla by a simple forum we make ourselves? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Discuss AMO/Add-ons session @ [[Summit2008/Sessions/Schedule|Fx Summit]]
* Next week's meeting?

== July 16th ==
* AMO 3.4.6 status
* Justin to walk thru the "Add-on Sharing Proposal"
* No love from Urchin - still missing data from launch (escalated), last few days are at half of total. :-(
** Sounds like {{bug|444948}} -- the SJ AMO logs were moved to a different directory and they didn't update Urchin. -flig
* rdoherty, are you willing to take on {{bug|434540}}? (yes)
* 1 or 2 stability releases? (rdoherty)

== July 9th ==
* Readiness for AMO 3.4.5 release on Thu, 7/10 evening
* AMO 3.4.6 - '''Code Freeze - 7/21 (11:59pm), push: 7/24'''
* Offer extended to AMO Community Manager
* Metrics:
** Pageviews spike from Fx3 is waning...seeing 6M PV's now
** Ping & Download counts are trending downwards according to Moz dashboard - checking with IT for possible causes
* Performance branch testing & merging - need to determine which release it can be merged with.
* ACTION: Wil will tag and <s>justin to file an IT ticket</s> - {{bug|444378}}

== July 2nd ==
* Determine new AMO 3.4.5 dates - Candi-dates: '''Code Freeze: 7/7, Push: 7/10'''
** stephend on vacation from 7/7-7/11 (bug verifications graciously covered by juanb and ss - thanks guys!)
** Fx3 users are still suffering under {{bug|437174}} (error 261), and will continue so until a Firefox update is released. Should we add a message to the install button, linking to a wiki page (or so) explaining that they need to switch on third-party cookies if they receive this error? This would only show when logged in, for experimental add-ons. --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Urchin is back up (sorta), we have about 8M daily page views (about 2x what we had prior to Fx 3 launch)
* Draft Q3 goals for discussion:
** Launch three AMO dot releases / execute to [[Update:Roadmap|roadmap]] & triaged bug lists (with webdev)
** Rollout at least one end user engagement project
** Conduct Add-on Developer Survey
** Rollout revised AMO Developer Tools (with webdev)
** Move site metrics to Urchin 6 (with IT)
** Prototype a Pentaho-based AMO dashboard (with IT)
* Draft terms of service available for moz.com/moz.org, need to add AMO API and AMO user-specific conditional sections. Outside legal is working on it.
* Rotated the reco list - [http://blog.mozilla.com/basil/2008/07/01/featured-add-ons-rotation-for-july-2008/ blogged about it]
* ACTION: Basil to setup bug triage times to help with release/feature scheduling.

= Earlier Meeting Notes =
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Apr 2008-Jun 2008|Archive April 2008-June 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Nov 07-Mar 2008|Archive November 2007-March 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2007|Archive October-November 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2007|Archive August-September 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Dec-Jul 2007|Archive December 2006-July 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2006|Archive October-November 2006]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2006|Archive August-September 2006]]

AMO:Meeting Notes

2008-09-24T06:14:36Z

Bhashem: /* Sep 24 */

[[Update:Remora|« Back to Update:Remora]]

== AMO Project Meeting Details ==
<pre>
Wednesdays, 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern
1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) or 1-650-215-1282 or 1-650-903-0800
Conferencing Center: x91
Conference ID: 261</pre>

== Common AMO Bugzilla Queries ==
* AMO 3.5 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Code Complete - Fri, 8/29, push: Thu, TBD'''
* AMO 4.0.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO4.0.1-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, Sep 15 (11:59pm), push: Thu, Sep 18'''
* AMO 4.0.2 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.2&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.2&query_based_on=AMO4.0.2-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, Oct 6 (11:59pm), push: Thu, Oct 9'''

__TOC__

== Sep 24 ==
* AMO 4.0.2 execution
* Developer Survey results to be shared this week

== Sep 18th (dev) ==
* summary of the [[Update:Remora Database/Object Caching|object-level caching changes]]
* tips on how the test cluster works and how to use it via [[Melanion]]
* [http://morgamic.com/2008/06/12/profiling-php-with-xdebug-and-webgrind/ short tutorial on xdebug and webgrind] on khan
* Does anyone else find firebot in #amo annoying? --clouserw
** Discussion on amo-editors boils down to "please switch its automated bug spam off, but keep the bot around for specific lookups". --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
** firebot's bug spam is switched off.
* Discuss [[QA/Tools/Selenium/AMO Automation|Selenium tests]] and how to integrate with SimpleTest

== Sep 17th ==
* AMO 4.0.1 Dev & Testing Status
** I have Selenium tests for the Dev CP, but I need to convert them to use a new account (don't want to give up my password), with its associated dummy test add-on (it's currently using [https://preview.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7522/]).--stephend
** I implemented an object-based memcaching framework. I'm currently writing a little documentation on it, so that it's easy to use for you.--[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
*** '''Update:''' I wrote the page and it's here: [[Update:Remora Database/Object Caching]]
** ACTION: Morgamic, please create some milestones: 4.0.3 and rename the "3.x (triaged)" to "4.x (triaged)".
* CDNetworks update
* AMO 4.0.2 Planning
** Laura won't be able to focus on discussions for 4.0.2 (pushing feature out)
** Still need API/bandwagon features for 4.0.2 [ACTION: Fligtar to file]
** Fennec stuff in 4.0.2?
* Bandwagon Update
** New add-on, Bandwagon v0.2 delivered - [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/bandwagon/BandwagonAddons-0.2.png see screenshot]

== Sep 10th ==
* Any question/issues with 4.0.1? (Obj invalidation needs some attention in order to nail a Monday code freeze)
* Candidate 4.0.2 bugs/enhancements ready
** Should we start on discussions now? Yes, laura to take
* AMO and Fennec - [[Fennec:Addons|See notes]]
* Dev Tools (Fligtar)
** Upload & Submission modules are done and ready for testing
** Remaining - reskinning the developer index page and details page
** Will push Dev tools with 4.0.1 - in beta/parallel mode
** Need to add L10N gettext() capability, will come 1 week after 4.0.1
** ACTION: testing strategy for dev tools (Fligtar, Stephen, Morgamic)
* Bandwagon/Collections Update (Fligtar)
** We've merged the projects, Alex will work on the webdev stuff
** ACTION: Fligtar to file API bugs needed to support bandwagon/collections
** Boriss working on mocks for weblists and feeds and then more advanced add-on capabilities
* Community Topics
** Editor revitalization plan (Rey)
** Dealing with the Backlog
** Upcoming Add-on Get togethers
*** [http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/08/toronto-mozcamp-workshops/ Moz Camp] - Toronto, Sep 15-16
*** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/MAOW Mozilla Add-ons Workshop] - Paris, Sep 20
*** [http://somethin-else.org/index.php?post/2008/08/20/Mozilla-Camp-Europe Moz Camp Europe] - Barcelona, Oct 25-26
*** Me.dium wants us to help sponsor a browser-agnostic add-on conference (Dec 11). Rey is investigating further.
* We have a student volunteer for the College Outreach Program
** Smita Periyapatna from SJSU - Yeah!
* Shifting IRC AMO Discussions to #amo
* Morgamic will be setting up a weekly? amo-dev meeting to discuss technical AMO topics/bugs

== Sep 3rd ==
* 4.0.1 - Status (on schedule)
* Extension lists & partner wizard on AMO (and how it ties into bandwagon leadwork)
* Defining "optimize"

== Aug 27th ==
* Next Release (4.0.1) - See [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/RevisedDevSchedule.pdf Morgamic's 3-week cycle template]
** Dev Start: Tue, Sep 2
** Code Freeze: Mon, Sep 15
** QA-Regression-Bug Fix thru to Thu, Sep 18
** Push: Thu, Sep 18th evening
** Planning for next release, Fri, Sep 19
** Next Cycle: Mon, Sep 22
* Reviewed the [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/Q3Roadmap.pdf Q3 AMO Roadmap] to see where we are - we are about ~70% of our intended goals
* Next-next Release (3.5.1/4.0.2) Candidate features
** Find-as-you-type
** FAQ
** Sexy search engines landing page
** Editor leaderboard
* What are we going to do with the "Addons" component in Bugzilla? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
** Mark as INVALID and tell them to contact author
** Have improved integration of Bugzilla and AMO and show in dev panel
** Talk to Tomcat
[http://shutterhost.com/places/amo/images/amo_karoke_png.jpg image of the week]

== Aug 20th ==
* AMO 3.4.7 release status - Wil will tag and file the push bug
* Release cycle - Morgamic is proposing a 3-week cycle to prevent last minute crunches and focusing on the push rather than starting the next dev cycle. Proposal to follow.
* TRUSTe proposal in hand
* Next maintenance release will be 3.5.1 - schedule TBD until we figure out the 4.0.1 stuff.
* 4.0.1 only has 1 perf-related bug. Basil to send email to IT to gather perf ideas and add to release - Morgamic/Wil to figure out who gets assigned what. Determine 3.5.1 effort and if it should be in parallel.
* Firefox Major Update readiness - will run full throttle unless there are issues. IT will be testing a new CDN network to aid
* AMO 3.5
** Preview manager was finished a couple weeks ago and Stephen has been QA'ing it and catching a few bugs that have now been fixed. The status changer is mostly finished, and that will be followed by the upload/submission tool which already has the backend done. Target date is 8/29.
* Bandwagon
** We have mockups to go off of now thanks to Boriss, so Brian King and team will start working on the first milestone which is purely extension development. Milestone 2 will begin to require webdev assistance from both website and API standpoints. Again, if you're interested in this project, just let Fligtar know and he'll add you to the Grouphub where the updated detailed schedule and requirements will be posted.

[http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff218/patyguaxupe/te-amo.jpg Image of the week]

== Aug 13th ==
* Review release status
** What's the schedule for 3.5? Answer: Awaiting Fligtar's return tomorrow, same status as last week - ETA for completion of Dev Tools is next Fri 8/22, then we need time for QA + L10N work and a push during a Sept maintenance window.
* Discussed [http://www.conduit.com Conduit]. Considering a controlled, limited return of a few Conduit toolbars to AMO.
* Discussed [http://www.TRUSTe.org TRUSTe]. Discussing with TRUSTe about a tiered certification program for add-ons and add-on authors
* Thank you and Farewell to Cesar! (XPI Diff launched, yeah! MyLists needs to find an SVN home)
* Discuss [[Update:Remora/Discussions_Revamp|discussions revamp]] - timeline for this? (Not 3.4.7 since we're still planning).
* Can we do a broadcast email to nom queue folks? Yes, Cesar to help out with the query.

== Aug 6th ==
* Three parallel releases - 3.4.7 (features/bug fixes), 4.0.1 (performance) and 3.5 (dev tools)
* AMO 3.4.7
** Enable Vanilla discussions? ACTION: Laura will build wiki page and we'll dump Vanilla for a custom system.
** '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 4.0.1
** {VERY Tentative: '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''}
* AMO 3.5 Status
** Status Manager in progress, Upload Manager remains to be done. ETA is Fri, 8/22 for code complete, need time for QA, L10N. Public push date in Sep to give time for L10N. (Justin has vacation time)
* Push for this Thu, 8/7? (XPI Differ, other?)
* Starting work on "Bandwagon" (Add-on Sharing)

== July 30th ==
* No meeting due to Firefox Summit

== July 23rd ==
* AMO 3.4.6 - how are we doing?
** Enable Vanilla Discussions?
** Replace Vanilla by a simple forum we make ourselves? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Discuss AMO/Add-ons session @ [[Summit2008/Sessions/Schedule|Fx Summit]]
* Next week's meeting?

== July 16th ==
* AMO 3.4.6 status
* Justin to walk thru the "Add-on Sharing Proposal"
* No love from Urchin - still missing data from launch (escalated), last few days are at half of total. :-(
** Sounds like {{bug|444948}} -- the SJ AMO logs were moved to a different directory and they didn't update Urchin. -flig
* rdoherty, are you willing to take on {{bug|434540}}? (yes)
* 1 or 2 stability releases? (rdoherty)

== July 9th ==
* Readiness for AMO 3.4.5 release on Thu, 7/10 evening
* AMO 3.4.6 - '''Code Freeze - 7/21 (11:59pm), push: 7/24'''
* Offer extended to AMO Community Manager
* Metrics:
** Pageviews spike from Fx3 is waning...seeing 6M PV's now
** Ping & Download counts are trending downwards according to Moz dashboard - checking with IT for possible causes
* Performance branch testing & merging - need to determine which release it can be merged with.
* ACTION: Wil will tag and <s>justin to file an IT ticket</s> - {{bug|444378}}

== July 2nd ==
* Determine new AMO 3.4.5 dates - Candi-dates: '''Code Freeze: 7/7, Push: 7/10'''
** stephend on vacation from 7/7-7/11 (bug verifications graciously covered by juanb and ss - thanks guys!)
** Fx3 users are still suffering under {{bug|437174}} (error 261), and will continue so until a Firefox update is released. Should we add a message to the install button, linking to a wiki page (or so) explaining that they need to switch on third-party cookies if they receive this error? This would only show when logged in, for experimental add-ons. --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Urchin is back up (sorta), we have about 8M daily page views (about 2x what we had prior to Fx 3 launch)
* Draft Q3 goals for discussion:
** Launch three AMO dot releases / execute to [[Update:Roadmap|roadmap]] & triaged bug lists (with webdev)
** Rollout at least one end user engagement project
** Conduct Add-on Developer Survey
** Rollout revised AMO Developer Tools (with webdev)
** Move site metrics to Urchin 6 (with IT)
** Prototype a Pentaho-based AMO dashboard (with IT)
* Draft terms of service available for moz.com/moz.org, need to add AMO API and AMO user-specific conditional sections. Outside legal is working on it.
* Rotated the reco list - [http://blog.mozilla.com/basil/2008/07/01/featured-add-ons-rotation-for-july-2008/ blogged about it]
* ACTION: Basil to setup bug triage times to help with release/feature scheduling.

= Earlier Meeting Notes =
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Apr 2008-Jun 2008|Archive April 2008-June 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Nov 07-Mar 2008|Archive November 2007-March 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2007|Archive October-November 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2007|Archive August-September 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Dec-Jul 2007|Archive December 2006-July 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2006|Archive October-November 2006]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2006|Archive August-September 2006]]

AMO:Meeting Notes

2008-09-24T06:14:04Z

Bhashem: /* Sep 18th (dev) */

[[Update:Remora|« Back to Update:Remora]]

== AMO Project Meeting Details ==
<pre>
Wednesdays, 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern
1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) or 1-650-215-1282 or 1-650-903-0800
Conferencing Center: x91
Conference ID: 261</pre>

== Common AMO Bugzilla Queries ==
* AMO 3.5 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Code Complete - Fri, 8/29, push: Thu, TBD'''
* AMO 4.0.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO4.0.1-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, Sep 15 (11:59pm), push: Thu, Sep 18'''
* AMO 4.0.2 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.2&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.2&query_based_on=AMO4.0.2-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, Oct 6 (11:59pm), push: Thu, Oct 9'''

__TOC__

== Sep 24 ==
* AMO 4.0.2 execution

== Sep 18th (dev) ==
* summary of the [[Update:Remora Database/Object Caching|object-level caching changes]]
* tips on how the test cluster works and how to use it via [[Melanion]]
* [http://morgamic.com/2008/06/12/profiling-php-with-xdebug-and-webgrind/ short tutorial on xdebug and webgrind] on khan
* Does anyone else find firebot in #amo annoying? --clouserw
** Discussion on amo-editors boils down to "please switch its automated bug spam off, but keep the bot around for specific lookups". --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
** firebot's bug spam is switched off.
* Discuss [[QA/Tools/Selenium/AMO Automation|Selenium tests]] and how to integrate with SimpleTest

== Sep 17th ==
* AMO 4.0.1 Dev & Testing Status
** I have Selenium tests for the Dev CP, but I need to convert them to use a new account (don't want to give up my password), with its associated dummy test add-on (it's currently using [https://preview.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7522/]).--stephend
** I implemented an object-based memcaching framework. I'm currently writing a little documentation on it, so that it's easy to use for you.--[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
*** '''Update:''' I wrote the page and it's here: [[Update:Remora Database/Object Caching]]
** ACTION: Morgamic, please create some milestones: 4.0.3 and rename the "3.x (triaged)" to "4.x (triaged)".
* CDNetworks update
* AMO 4.0.2 Planning
** Laura won't be able to focus on discussions for 4.0.2 (pushing feature out)
** Still need API/bandwagon features for 4.0.2 [ACTION: Fligtar to file]
** Fennec stuff in 4.0.2?
* Bandwagon Update
** New add-on, Bandwagon v0.2 delivered - [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/bandwagon/BandwagonAddons-0.2.png see screenshot]

== Sep 10th ==
* Any question/issues with 4.0.1? (Obj invalidation needs some attention in order to nail a Monday code freeze)
* Candidate 4.0.2 bugs/enhancements ready
** Should we start on discussions now? Yes, laura to take
* AMO and Fennec - [[Fennec:Addons|See notes]]
* Dev Tools (Fligtar)
** Upload & Submission modules are done and ready for testing
** Remaining - reskinning the developer index page and details page
** Will push Dev tools with 4.0.1 - in beta/parallel mode
** Need to add L10N gettext() capability, will come 1 week after 4.0.1
** ACTION: testing strategy for dev tools (Fligtar, Stephen, Morgamic)
* Bandwagon/Collections Update (Fligtar)
** We've merged the projects, Alex will work on the webdev stuff
** ACTION: Fligtar to file API bugs needed to support bandwagon/collections
** Boriss working on mocks for weblists and feeds and then more advanced add-on capabilities
* Community Topics
** Editor revitalization plan (Rey)
** Dealing with the Backlog
** Upcoming Add-on Get togethers
*** [http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/08/toronto-mozcamp-workshops/ Moz Camp] - Toronto, Sep 15-16
*** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/MAOW Mozilla Add-ons Workshop] - Paris, Sep 20
*** [http://somethin-else.org/index.php?post/2008/08/20/Mozilla-Camp-Europe Moz Camp Europe] - Barcelona, Oct 25-26
*** Me.dium wants us to help sponsor a browser-agnostic add-on conference (Dec 11). Rey is investigating further.
* We have a student volunteer for the College Outreach Program
** Smita Periyapatna from SJSU - Yeah!
* Shifting IRC AMO Discussions to #amo
* Morgamic will be setting up a weekly? amo-dev meeting to discuss technical AMO topics/bugs

== Sep 3rd ==
* 4.0.1 - Status (on schedule)
* Extension lists & partner wizard on AMO (and how it ties into bandwagon leadwork)
* Defining "optimize"

== Aug 27th ==
* Next Release (4.0.1) - See [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/RevisedDevSchedule.pdf Morgamic's 3-week cycle template]
** Dev Start: Tue, Sep 2
** Code Freeze: Mon, Sep 15
** QA-Regression-Bug Fix thru to Thu, Sep 18
** Push: Thu, Sep 18th evening
** Planning for next release, Fri, Sep 19
** Next Cycle: Mon, Sep 22
* Reviewed the [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/Q3Roadmap.pdf Q3 AMO Roadmap] to see where we are - we are about ~70% of our intended goals
* Next-next Release (3.5.1/4.0.2) Candidate features
** Find-as-you-type
** FAQ
** Sexy search engines landing page
** Editor leaderboard
* What are we going to do with the "Addons" component in Bugzilla? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
** Mark as INVALID and tell them to contact author
** Have improved integration of Bugzilla and AMO and show in dev panel
** Talk to Tomcat
[http://shutterhost.com/places/amo/images/amo_karoke_png.jpg image of the week]

== Aug 20th ==
* AMO 3.4.7 release status - Wil will tag and file the push bug
* Release cycle - Morgamic is proposing a 3-week cycle to prevent last minute crunches and focusing on the push rather than starting the next dev cycle. Proposal to follow.
* TRUSTe proposal in hand
* Next maintenance release will be 3.5.1 - schedule TBD until we figure out the 4.0.1 stuff.
* 4.0.1 only has 1 perf-related bug. Basil to send email to IT to gather perf ideas and add to release - Morgamic/Wil to figure out who gets assigned what. Determine 3.5.1 effort and if it should be in parallel.
* Firefox Major Update readiness - will run full throttle unless there are issues. IT will be testing a new CDN network to aid
* AMO 3.5
** Preview manager was finished a couple weeks ago and Stephen has been QA'ing it and catching a few bugs that have now been fixed. The status changer is mostly finished, and that will be followed by the upload/submission tool which already has the backend done. Target date is 8/29.
* Bandwagon
** We have mockups to go off of now thanks to Boriss, so Brian King and team will start working on the first milestone which is purely extension development. Milestone 2 will begin to require webdev assistance from both website and API standpoints. Again, if you're interested in this project, just let Fligtar know and he'll add you to the Grouphub where the updated detailed schedule and requirements will be posted.

[http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff218/patyguaxupe/te-amo.jpg Image of the week]

== Aug 13th ==
* Review release status
** What's the schedule for 3.5? Answer: Awaiting Fligtar's return tomorrow, same status as last week - ETA for completion of Dev Tools is next Fri 8/22, then we need time for QA + L10N work and a push during a Sept maintenance window.
* Discussed [http://www.conduit.com Conduit]. Considering a controlled, limited return of a few Conduit toolbars to AMO.
* Discussed [http://www.TRUSTe.org TRUSTe]. Discussing with TRUSTe about a tiered certification program for add-ons and add-on authors
* Thank you and Farewell to Cesar! (XPI Diff launched, yeah! MyLists needs to find an SVN home)
* Discuss [[Update:Remora/Discussions_Revamp|discussions revamp]] - timeline for this? (Not 3.4.7 since we're still planning).
* Can we do a broadcast email to nom queue folks? Yes, Cesar to help out with the query.

== Aug 6th ==
* Three parallel releases - 3.4.7 (features/bug fixes), 4.0.1 (performance) and 3.5 (dev tools)
* AMO 3.4.7
** Enable Vanilla discussions? ACTION: Laura will build wiki page and we'll dump Vanilla for a custom system.
** '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 4.0.1
** {VERY Tentative: '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''}
* AMO 3.5 Status
** Status Manager in progress, Upload Manager remains to be done. ETA is Fri, 8/22 for code complete, need time for QA, L10N. Public push date in Sep to give time for L10N. (Justin has vacation time)
* Push for this Thu, 8/7? (XPI Differ, other?)
* Starting work on "Bandwagon" (Add-on Sharing)

== July 30th ==
* No meeting due to Firefox Summit

== July 23rd ==
* AMO 3.4.6 - how are we doing?
** Enable Vanilla Discussions?
** Replace Vanilla by a simple forum we make ourselves? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Discuss AMO/Add-ons session @ [[Summit2008/Sessions/Schedule|Fx Summit]]
* Next week's meeting?

== July 16th ==
* AMO 3.4.6 status
* Justin to walk thru the "Add-on Sharing Proposal"
* No love from Urchin - still missing data from launch (escalated), last few days are at half of total. :-(
** Sounds like {{bug|444948}} -- the SJ AMO logs were moved to a different directory and they didn't update Urchin. -flig
* rdoherty, are you willing to take on {{bug|434540}}? (yes)
* 1 or 2 stability releases? (rdoherty)

== July 9th ==
* Readiness for AMO 3.4.5 release on Thu, 7/10 evening
* AMO 3.4.6 - '''Code Freeze - 7/21 (11:59pm), push: 7/24'''
* Offer extended to AMO Community Manager
* Metrics:
** Pageviews spike from Fx3 is waning...seeing 6M PV's now
** Ping & Download counts are trending downwards according to Moz dashboard - checking with IT for possible causes
* Performance branch testing & merging - need to determine which release it can be merged with.
* ACTION: Wil will tag and <s>justin to file an IT ticket</s> - {{bug|444378}}

== July 2nd ==
* Determine new AMO 3.4.5 dates - Candi-dates: '''Code Freeze: 7/7, Push: 7/10'''
** stephend on vacation from 7/7-7/11 (bug verifications graciously covered by juanb and ss - thanks guys!)
** Fx3 users are still suffering under {{bug|437174}} (error 261), and will continue so until a Firefox update is released. Should we add a message to the install button, linking to a wiki page (or so) explaining that they need to switch on third-party cookies if they receive this error? This would only show when logged in, for experimental add-ons. --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Urchin is back up (sorta), we have about 8M daily page views (about 2x what we had prior to Fx 3 launch)
* Draft Q3 goals for discussion:
** Launch three AMO dot releases / execute to [[Update:Roadmap|roadmap]] & triaged bug lists (with webdev)
** Rollout at least one end user engagement project
** Conduct Add-on Developer Survey
** Rollout revised AMO Developer Tools (with webdev)
** Move site metrics to Urchin 6 (with IT)
** Prototype a Pentaho-based AMO dashboard (with IT)
* Draft terms of service available for moz.com/moz.org, need to add AMO API and AMO user-specific conditional sections. Outside legal is working on it.
* Rotated the reco list - [http://blog.mozilla.com/basil/2008/07/01/featured-add-ons-rotation-for-july-2008/ blogged about it]
* ACTION: Basil to setup bug triage times to help with release/feature scheduling.

= Earlier Meeting Notes =
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Apr 2008-Jun 2008|Archive April 2008-June 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Nov 07-Mar 2008|Archive November 2007-March 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2007|Archive October-November 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2007|Archive August-September 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Dec-Jul 2007|Archive December 2006-July 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2006|Archive October-November 2006]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2006|Archive August-September 2006]]

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2008-09-22T20:08:26Z

Bhashem: /* Mozilla Labs */

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'''Meeting Details'''
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= WeeklyUpdate Live =
You can watch the weekly meetings live at [http://air.mozilla.com Air Mozilla] You can also view previous meetings from the "on-demand" button on the Air Mozilla player. Meetings will be posted for on-demand consumption shortly after the meeting conclusion.

= Friends of the Tree [[Image:Tree.gif|Friends of the Tree]] =

I'd like to nominate, for Friend of the Tree, LouCypher, also known as Zoocar9, who joined Spread Firefox on September 2004 and has been involved on various Firefox related project since, including buttons/banners for promoting Firefox (resulting in nearly 100,000 downloads,) Firefox Materials (a collection of links for Firefox promotion materials), search plugins, extensions, user scripts for Greasemonkey extension, user styles for Stylish extension, scripts for userChrome.js extension, custom buttons for Custom Buttons extension, and now FoxieWire.

Join me in celebrating LouCypher's 4 years of Spread Firefox ass-kicking.

Please send FotT nominations to [mailto:asa@mozilla.org asa@mozilla.org]. This is a great opportunity for the community to recognize those who go above and beyond, so please tell me when you see that happening. Thanks.

= Development Updates =

== Fx 2->3 Major Update / Fx 2.0.0.17 / Fx 3.0.2 ==
'''Major Update'''
* more than 50% of Firefox users are now on Firefox 3
* need to work out a projection about how quickly the full upgrade will take

'''Firefox 2.0.0.17 / 3.0.2'''
* regressions were found during the beta period
* quickly fixed, testday found no additional issues
* betas reissued last Friday
* expect to ship these releases Tuesday, Sept 23rd

'''Thunderbird 2.0.0.17'''
* in beta now.
* ships on Thursday, Sept 25th.

== Gecko 1.9.1 ==

* Check out the [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox3.1/Features#Gecko_1.9.1 Way Cool Work] going into Gecko 1.9.1.
* See freeze dates below in Firefox 3.1 section.
* [http://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/1.9.1 Interesting queries related to Gecko 1.9.1]
* [http://tinyurl.com/3jsumu 35 1.9.1 blockers].
* [http://tinyurl.com/3uzqh6 195 wanted bugs (also up)]
** 21 P1s. These are bugs we feel would really, really make a good release if we had a solid handful completed.
** 53 P2s. These are medium complexity bugs/changes that are nice to have.
** 42 P3s. The lowest priority bugs for this release. These are the ones that we will definitely take, but the others take priority.

== Firefox 3.1 ==
* approximately 10,000 users on nightlies
* another 10,000 or more on 3.1 Alpha 2
* currently [[Platform/2008-09-16#Firefox_3.1_Update|evaluating content for revised schedule]]
* Beta 1 Schedule
** en-US string freeze is Thursday, Sept 26th at 11:59pm PDT
** code freeze is Tuesday, Sept 30th at 11:59pm PDT
* Beta 2 Schedule
** en-US string freeze is Thursday, October 30th at 11:59pm PDT
** code freeze is Tuesday, November 4th at 11:59pm PDT

== TB 3 ==

== Mobile ==

== IT ==
* Continued CDN Trials
** Tested addons.mozilla.org behind CDNetworks {{bug|450745}}
* Thursday Scheduled Maintenance
** Wrap up kernel upgrades Thursday
** Netscaler OS upgrade (San Jose, Amsterdam, Beijing)
* Rescheduled - Upcoming Hg/SVN/CVS downtime [http://blog.mozilla.com/it/2008/09/15/upcoming-hgsvncvs-outage-maintenance-sept-18-7pm-pdt-0200-utc/ blog post]

== Release Engineering ==
* changeset info now reported on tinderbox for talos runs, should make tracking down regressions easier.
* downtime for unittest switchover tomorrow morning, see Lukas's post to dev.planning.
* Tues/tomorrow: FF3.0.2 and FF2.0.0.17
** did a *very* fast turnaround on FF3.0.2build#6 late last week.
* Thurs: TB2.0.0.17
* half-way to end of Firefox2 support, see blog post and post to dev.planning

== QA ==

Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 - Completed Smoketests, BFTs, l10n, and update testing [abillings, juanb]

Firefox 3.0.x
* Released 3.0.2 RC6 to beta. Completed smoke tests, update testing, bug verifications, and live checks. [tomcat, tchung, marcoz, marcia, others]
* Extensive Investigation of the Norton 360 issue. See {{bug|452469}}

Firefox 3.1
* Feature testing:
** Completed first draft of the [[QA/Firefox3.1/Private_Browsing_Test_Plan|Private Browsing test plan]]. Ran the latest tryserver build [marcia]
** Worked on CSS Transforms, ran into several bugs: {{bug|455138}}, {{bug|455445}} [ctalbert]
* More testing with JAWS 10.0 public beta. Verified that some of the bugs reported to us by Freedom Scientific and mutual user base are indeed fixed in 3.1. Most of these also in 3.0.2. [marcoz]
* Filed a number of Tracemonkey bugs: {{bug|455773}}, {{bug|451843}}

Mobile
* Joel is ramping up on trouble shooting the failing mochitests
* QA filing bugs like crazy.

Test Dev
* Gristmill
** Found out that the approach for looking up anaomous elemetns won't work. Adam and Mikeal came up with a [http://code.google.com/p/mozmill/wiki/LookupProposal new lookup proposal]. Finished initial implementation of the Lookup object. Still need to do inspector work and testing.
** Finished the initial MozMill framework event system. Added listeners for the existing UI to display new framework messages. [mikeal]
* Working on setting up the Standalone Talos for Pageloader Tests with Extensions installed [tomcat]
* Improved the bisect.sh script for finding regressions and fixes for JavaScript Tests [bc]

Community
* We held a Dev Day at Seneca College on Sept 15-16. Key leaders of this were Dave Humphrey, Mark Finkle, Clint Talbert. Videos of all the sessions will be made available via the Seneca website and hopefully on DevMO.
* There was a [http://quality.mozilla.org/node/1879 Firefox 3.0.2 Test Day] on Friday. See [https://litmus.mozilla.org/testday_report.cgi?testday_id=110&include_admin=on results]
* Held a Firefox/WebVisum/general MoFo talk at the [http://www.bsvh.org Blinden- und Sehbehindertenverein Hamburg e.V.], which is the local blindness self-help organization. Well-received with a lot of good questions and excitement.
* * Prepared a presentation that I'll hold at the [http://www.best-of-accessibility.de Best Of Accessibility Symposium] on Thursday September 25. First presentation will be for newcomers to screen reader technology showing how web 2.0 pages like Twitter interact with a screen reader. Second will be on WAI-ARIA, demonstrating simple page enhancements that greatly improve accessibility.

== Security ==
*3.02 is scheduled to ship tomorrow
*Window spoke at IT Security World on Monday and Executive Women's Forum on Wednesday last week
*Security Reviews continue
*Looking for ways to reduce the security bug backlog

== Marketing/PR ==

'''Consumer Research'''

'''PR'''
* [http://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2008/09/firefox-eula-cause-ubuntu-conc.html A] [http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,1000000121,39488217,00.htm lot] of [http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080915-ubuntu-firefox-eula-dustup-reignites-oss-licensing-debate.html discussion] in the [http://www.heise-online.co.uk/open/Mozilla-Chief-apologises-for-Ubuntu-EULA--/news/111552 press] [http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=software_development&articleId=9114930&taxonomyId=63&intsrc=kc_top around] [http://blogs.computerworld.com/mozilla_revises_linux_firefox_agreement EULAs]
* A [http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/09/21/2121243 few] [http://osdir.com/Article10162.phtml more] [http://www.pcworld.com/article/151324/mozilla_admits_firefox_license_mistake.html EULA articles] [http://www.tectonic.co.za/index.php?page_id=2754&bid=1323 over the weekend]
* Articles about Mozilla's [http://software.silicon.com/security/0,39024655,39288639,00.htm plans] for [http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=2902 3.1] and [http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9114736&intsrc=news_ts_head private browsing mode]
* [http://www.gcn.com/blogs/tech/47158.html Mike Beltzner interviewed for GCN article about browsers]
* [http://www.motherjones.com/interview/2008/09/inside-the-firefoxs-den.html Mitchell profiled in Mother Jones magazine]
* [http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2008/09/web_20_expo_mic.html Brendan Eich on browser panel] at [http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Application-Development/Microsoft-Mozilla-Google-Talk-Browser-Futures/ Web 2.0 Expo in NYC]
* [http://www.hackinthebox.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=28301 Confusion] about [http://mobile.slashdot.org/mobile/08/09/19/064202.shtml Mozilla's mobile timeline]
* [http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_10510989?nclick_check=1 Mike Shaver interviewed for San Jose Mercury News article about Chrome's unique identifier]
* [http://blog.mozilla.com/news/ Introducing: Above the Fold - Mozilla in the news]

'''Events'''
* [http://www.spreadfirefox.com/node/2988 Browser Redesign Series] at University Michigan: Labs is working with School of Information Students to host a brainstorm session on how to improve Firefox on September 25th.
* Events Triage call: Please join us for our bi-weekly events triage call Wednesday at 10 a.m. PDT. Dial-in is 650-903-0800, ext 91, id 248 or 800-707-2533, password 369, ext 91, id 248 and #events on irc.mozilla.org.

'''Retention Marketing'''
* Impact Mozilla, an upcoming marketing contest with the goal of addressing our retention marketing challenge, is set to launch next Monday. Expect to soon see a micro site and a blog post announcing the launch. Thanks to John Slater, Seth Bindernagel, Laura Mesa, and Nobox for their help here. Lastly, please let us know if you're aware of any student groups who would be interested in participating.

'''Creative/Brand'''
* The Firefox logo style guide (beta) is on schedule to launch later this week. Please see John or Tara with any questions.

== Support ==
* Feedback from French localizers Delphine Lebédel and Vanessa Yve about the localization process on SUMO [http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=165336&forumId=3]. Highlights:
** Difficult to get an overview of e.g. which articles need translation, or which edits need review.
** Complicated UI -- unclear what certain icons and options mean, or how things work
** Site is slow
* Next step: talk to other localizers to gather more feedback, and work on fixing the issues

== Metrics ==
* No updates

== Evangelism ==
; Presentations Library
: Morphing the "Evangelism Library" into a "Presentations Library" where folks will be able to upload their slide decks and post whatever other resources related to that presentation are available - summary paragraph, speakers notes, links to or full video/audio recordings, etc. The idea would be to have a central location for these resources (Mozilla people do a lot of talks, it turns out) so they can be reused, remixed, localized, and re-shared.
: The wiki currently lives here http://evangelism.dekiwiki.mozilla.org/ , but there's a bug on file to get it moved to a better permanent home. If you'd like to help out with (or have questions about) this project, send email to Deb (deb-at-mozilla-com).

* 3.0.2 rapid response team gearing up (Asa)
* Upgraded Deki for devmo (Sheppy)

== Mozilla Labs ==
* Labs Meet-up in Mtn. View. Thursday 9,25, 6-9pm. Pizza, hacking, conversation.
* Making a push for Ubiquity on Thunderbird, if there are any expert, please contact us and we welcome your advice

== Webdev, Add-ons, AMO ==
* AMO
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO4.0.1-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= AMO 4.0.1] was launched successfully last week
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.2&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= AMO 4.0.2] opens today
** AMO statistics were borked after an IP change for the slave database last week {{bug|455628}} -- fix was implemented in {{bug|452290}}
* Socorro
** [http://blog.mozilla.com/webdev/2008/09/17/the-crashing-edge/ Project update last week]
** [http://blog.mozilla.com/webdev/2008/09/22/socorro-database-migration/ Database server migrated] this weekend, waiting for full [http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.3/static/sql-vacuum.html vacuum] to finish
** [http://code.google.com/p/socorro/w/list Project documentation] was updated last week thanks to Lars
** This week -- finish migration and repair summary tables (topcrasher page)
*SUMO
** Pushed 0.6.4 out last Tuesday
** 0.7 code freeze this week
* Headrush
** Working on style changes
** Aiming to do a quiet release before end Q3
* Graph Server
** Architecture brainstorm & meeting last week
*** [[Perfomatic:Rearchitecture]]
*** Focused on performance, adding customization features and detecting regressions.
*** Will start work on re-architecture in Q4

== L10n ==
* [http://l10n.mozillamessaging.com/dashboard/ Thunderbird Dashboard] - Gozer (on IRC) set up the TB dashboard for now, triggering builds manually.

* Pike landed JarMaker.py, which lays the groundwork for l10n-merge and other improvements in the l10n build ecosystem. (Questions about L10n-merge? Email [mailto:sethb@mozilla.com sethb].)

* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox3.1/StatusMeetings/2008-09-17#Localization Firefox 3.1 update] from last week's Firefox meeting.

= Foundation Updates =

Note: This is Mark Surman's first day as the new executive director of the Mozilla Foundation. Please welcome Mark as he gets settled in to his Foundation work. He can be reached at mark -at- mozillafoundation -dot- org.

* Grants
** The Mozilla Foundation made a $25K grant to [http://www.benetech.org/ Benetech] to support development of a [http://www.daisy.org/ DAISY] reader for Firefox.
** The Mozilla Foundation is funding [http://www.gingertech.net/w/Main/Experience Silvia Pfeiffer] to do a study of video accessibility issues for Firefox.
** Max Kanat-Alexander posted the results of a Foundation-funded [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:Survey survey of Bugzilla users].
** Ben Millard completed the intermediate milestone for his Foundation-funded project to [http://projectcerbera.com/web/study/2008/collection study HTML accessibility usage patterns].

* Web site(s)
** David continued www.mozilla.org archiving, redirect, and bug triage work.
** David scheduled the next www.mozilla.org planning meeting for October 2 at 10 am Pacific.

* Other
** David blogged about the [http://davidwboswell.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/new-mozilla-shirt-now-available/ new Mozilla T-shirt] and updated the associated bug [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=385513 385513].
** Gerv got some changes to the [http://publicsuffix.org/ public suffix list] into Firefox 3.0.2.

= Roundtable =

= Other Business =

User:Bhashem/ViewAddonSources

2008-09-22T19:58:24Z

Bhashem: New page: In order to help add-on developers learn about add-ons and look for best practices, AMO should make available the source code for add-ons that have allowed their sources to be viewed publi...

In order to help add-on developers learn about add-ons and look for best practices, AMO should make available the source code for add-ons that have allowed their sources to be viewed publicly. Similar to how people learned HTML and JS from "View Source", we can do something similar for add-on authors.

Currently, when an add-on is added to AMO, the developer is asked if they want their sources viewable. If they agree, a link is automatically created (see [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/16 bottom of this example page]).

This proposal is to create a searchable index of all these add-ons

= Backend Process =
* Create an empty hg or svn repository/module directory
* Automatically place all current add-ons that include the "View Source" option in AMO as checked into a repository (perhaps as a nightly batch process)
* As new add-ons are checked into AMO, automatically update this repo
* Post process the add-ons
** Explode the basic packaging - .jar (for themes) and .xpi (for add-ons)
** Expand the add-on fully (expand all JAR's) - e.g. most add-ons use .jar's to package their chrome/content code
** Ignore/delete all images? (.png, .gif, .jpg) - not sure if this makes sense

= User Interface =
* Setup a web viewable UI against the repo ([http://www.viewvc.org/ ViewVC])
* Setup a module within mxr that allows searching of add-ons
* Phase 1: Basic source view and search
* Phase 2: Allow tagging and retrieval of source sections to enable "Add a toolbar" or other common capabilities

= Basic Analysis =
* Here's the SQL query:
select count(*) from addons where addons.viewsource = 1 and inactive=0 and status not in (0,2,5);
* There are currently about 1760 add-ons that are public/sandbox that allow source viewing (out of 6210 total)

PFS:Policy

2008-09-20T01:51:20Z

Bhashem:

__NOTOC__

This policy outlines how Mozilla handles plugins offered through the plugin finder service, [[PFS]].

= Tier 1: Mozilla Recommended Plugins =
A '''recommended''' plugin is defined as a plugin in which an installation to handle unknown content is presented and installed on-demand, with '''minimal''' interaction from the user.

== Criteria for becoming a Recommended Plugin ==
* Very wide use
* Proven stable and reliable
* Lots of content will be unsupported without the plugin
* Supported by vendors who work directly with Mozilla

=== Suggested Recommended Plugins ===
* Adobe Flash Player
* Apple QuickTime
* Java Runtime Environment
* Windows Media Player
* Adobe Acrobat Reader, Shockwave
* Real Networks RealPlayer
* DivX

= Tier 2: Mozilla Approved Plugins =
An '''approved''' plugin is defined as a plugin in which distribution happens natively, on-demand, after presenting the user with choices from approved partners.

== Criteria for becoming an Approved Plugin ==
* Reputable source
* Evaluated by Mozilla
* Rich community around plugin

== Suggested Approved Plugins ==
* Flip4Mac
* MathML
* Viewpoint Media Player
* XStandard XHTML WYSIWYG Editor
* DNL Reader
* Microsoft Silverlight
* Real Networks, RA/VE
* Joost
* Novell/Moonlight
* SpaceTrader
* Photodex
* DreamFactory
* DF Splash

= Tier 3: Third-Party Plugins =
A '''third party''' plugin is defined as a plugin in which distribution happens by Mozilla or the vendors website. Mozilla will list them in a directory that is searchable by name or MIME type but does not support or recommend any of these third-party plugins.

Third-Party plugins may apply to be approved if they go through the review process.

== Criteria for Third Party Plugins ==
* None

== Suggested Third-Party Plugins ==
* Google Lively
* [http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/windows-all.html Plugins like these]

AMO:Meeting Notes

2008-09-17T17:21:39Z

Bhashem: /* Sep 17th */

[[Update:Remora|« Back to Update:Remora]]

== AMO Project Meeting Details ==
<pre>
Wednesdays, 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern
1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) or 1-650-215-1282 or 1-650-903-0800
Conferencing Center: x91
Conference ID: 261</pre>

== Common AMO Bugzilla Queries ==
* AMO 3.5 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Code Complete - Fri, 8/29, push: Thu, TBD'''
* AMO 4.0.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO4.0.1-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, Sep 15 (11:59pm), push: Thu, Sep 18'''
* AMO 4.0.2 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.2&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.2&query_based_on=AMO4.0.2-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, Oct 6 (11:59pm), push: Thu, Oct 9'''

__TOC__

== Sep 17th ==
* AMO 4.0.1 Dev & Testing Status
** I have Selenium tests for the Dev CP, but I need to convert them to use a new account (don't want to give up my password), with its associated dummy test add-on (it's currently using [https://preview.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7522/]).--stephend
** I implemented an object-based memcaching framework. I'm currently writing a little documentation on it, so that it's easy to use for you.--[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
** ACTION: Morgamic, please create some milestones: 4.0.3 and rename the "3.x (triaged)" to "4.x (triaged)".
* CDNetworks update
* AMO 4.0.2 Planning
** Laura won't be able to focus on discussions for 4.0.2 (pushing feature out)
** Still need API/bandwagon features for 4.0.2 [ACTION: Fligtar to file]
** Fennec stuff in 4.0.2?
* Bandwagon Update
** New add-on, Bandwagon v0.2 delivered - [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/bandwagon/BandwagonAddons-0.2.png see screenshot]

== Sep 18th (dev) ==
* summary of the object-level caching changes
* tips on how the test cluster works and how to use it via Melanion (https://wiki.mozilla.org/Melanion)
* short tutorial on xdebug and webgrind on khan
* how to analyze queries and minimize model binding in AMO
* Does anyone else find firebot in #amo annoying? --clouserw
* Discuss [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Tools/Selenium/AMO_Automation Selenium tests] and how to integrate with SimpleTest

== Sep 10th ==
* Any question/issues with 4.0.1? (Obj invalidation needs some attention in order to nail a Monday code freeze)
* Candidate 4.0.2 bugs/enhancements ready
** Should we start on discussions now? Yes, laura to take
* AMO and Fennec - [[Fennec:Addons|See notes]]
* Dev Tools (Fligtar)
** Upload & Submission modules are done and ready for testing
** Remaining - reskinning the developer index page and details page
** Will push Dev tools with 4.0.1 - in beta/parallel mode
** Need to add L10N gettext() capability, will come 1 week after 4.0.1
** ACTION: testing strategy for dev tools (Fligtar, Stephen, Morgamic)
* Bandwagon/Collections Update (Fligtar)
** We've merged the projects, Alex will work on the webdev stuff
** ACTION: Fligtar to file API bugs needed to support bandwagon/collections
** Boriss working on mocks for weblists and feeds and then more advanced add-on capabilities
* Community Topics
** Editor revitalization plan (Rey)
** Dealing with the Backlog
** Upcoming Add-on Get togethers
*** [http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/08/toronto-mozcamp-workshops/ Moz Camp] - Toronto, Sep 15-16
*** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/MAOW Mozilla Add-ons Workshop] - Paris, Sep 20
*** [http://somethin-else.org/index.php?post/2008/08/20/Mozilla-Camp-Europe Moz Camp Europe] - Barcelona, Oct 25-26
*** Me.dium wants us to help sponsor a browser-agnostic add-on conference (Dec 11). Rey is investigating further.
* We have a student volunteer for the College Outreach Program
** Smita Periyapatna from SJSU - Yeah!
* Shifting IRC AMO Discussions to #amo
* Morgamic will be setting up a weekly? amo-dev meeting to discuss technical AMO topics/bugs

== Sep 3rd ==
* 4.0.1 - Status (on schedule)
* Extension lists & partner wizard on AMO (and how it ties into bandwagon leadwork)
* Defining "optimize"

== Aug 27th ==
* Next Release (4.0.1) - See [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/RevisedDevSchedule.pdf Morgamic's 3-week cycle template]
** Dev Start: Tue, Sep 2
** Code Freeze: Mon, Sep 15
** QA-Regression-Bug Fix thru to Thu, Sep 18
** Push: Thu, Sep 18th evening
** Planning for next release, Fri, Sep 19
** Next Cycle: Mon, Sep 22
* Reviewed the [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/Q3Roadmap.pdf Q3 AMO Roadmap] to see where we are - we are about ~70% of our intended goals
* Next-next Release (3.5.1/4.0.2) Candidate features
** Find-as-you-type
** FAQ
** Sexy search engines landing page
** Editor leaderboard
* What are we going to do with the "Addons" component in Bugzilla? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
** Mark as INVALID and tell them to contact author
** Have improved integration of Bugzilla and AMO and show in dev panel
** Talk to Tomcat
[http://shutterhost.com/places/amo/images/amo_karoke_png.jpg image of the week]

== Aug 20th ==
* AMO 3.4.7 release status - Wil will tag and file the push bug
* Release cycle - Morgamic is proposing a 3-week cycle to prevent last minute crunches and focusing on the push rather than starting the next dev cycle. Proposal to follow.
* TRUSTe proposal in hand
* Next maintenance release will be 3.5.1 - schedule TBD until we figure out the 4.0.1 stuff.
* 4.0.1 only has 1 perf-related bug. Basil to send email to IT to gather perf ideas and add to release - Morgamic/Wil to figure out who gets assigned what. Determine 3.5.1 effort and if it should be in parallel.
* Firefox Major Update readiness - will run full throttle unless there are issues. IT will be testing a new CDN network to aid
* AMO 3.5
** Preview manager was finished a couple weeks ago and Stephen has been QA'ing it and catching a few bugs that have now been fixed. The status changer is mostly finished, and that will be followed by the upload/submission tool which already has the backend done. Target date is 8/29.
* Bandwagon
** We have mockups to go off of now thanks to Boriss, so Brian King and team will start working on the first milestone which is purely extension development. Milestone 2 will begin to require webdev assistance from both website and API standpoints. Again, if you're interested in this project, just let Fligtar know and he'll add you to the Grouphub where the updated detailed schedule and requirements will be posted.

[http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff218/patyguaxupe/te-amo.jpg Image of the week]

== Aug 13th ==
* Review release status
** What's the schedule for 3.5? Answer: Awaiting Fligtar's return tomorrow, same status as last week - ETA for completion of Dev Tools is next Fri 8/22, then we need time for QA + L10N work and a push during a Sept maintenance window.
* Discussed [http://www.conduit.com Conduit]. Considering a controlled, limited return of a few Conduit toolbars to AMO.
* Discussed [http://www.TRUSTe.org TRUSTe]. Discussing with TRUSTe about a tiered certification program for add-ons and add-on authors
* Thank you and Farewell to Cesar! (XPI Diff launched, yeah! MyLists needs to find an SVN home)
* Discuss [[Update:Remora/Discussions_Revamp|discussions revamp]] - timeline for this? (Not 3.4.7 since we're still planning).
* Can we do a broadcast email to nom queue folks? Yes, Cesar to help out with the query.

== Aug 6th ==
* Three parallel releases - 3.4.7 (features/bug fixes), 4.0.1 (performance) and 3.5 (dev tools)
* AMO 3.4.7
** Enable Vanilla discussions? ACTION: Laura will build wiki page and we'll dump Vanilla for a custom system.
** '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 4.0.1
** {VERY Tentative: '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''}
* AMO 3.5 Status
** Status Manager in progress, Upload Manager remains to be done. ETA is Fri, 8/22 for code complete, need time for QA, L10N. Public push date in Sep to give time for L10N. (Justin has vacation time)
* Push for this Thu, 8/7? (XPI Differ, other?)
* Starting work on "Bandwagon" (Add-on Sharing)

== July 30th ==
* No meeting due to Firefox Summit

== July 23rd ==
* AMO 3.4.6 - how are we doing?
** Enable Vanilla Discussions?
** Replace Vanilla by a simple forum we make ourselves? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Discuss AMO/Add-ons session @ [[Summit2008/Sessions/Schedule|Fx Summit]]
* Next week's meeting?

== July 16th ==
* AMO 3.4.6 status
* Justin to walk thru the "Add-on Sharing Proposal"
* No love from Urchin - still missing data from launch (escalated), last few days are at half of total. :-(
** Sounds like {{bug|444948}} -- the SJ AMO logs were moved to a different directory and they didn't update Urchin. -flig
* rdoherty, are you willing to take on {{bug|434540}}? (yes)
* 1 or 2 stability releases? (rdoherty)

== July 9th ==
* Readiness for AMO 3.4.5 release on Thu, 7/10 evening
* AMO 3.4.6 - '''Code Freeze - 7/21 (11:59pm), push: 7/24'''
* Offer extended to AMO Community Manager
* Metrics:
** Pageviews spike from Fx3 is waning...seeing 6M PV's now
** Ping & Download counts are trending downwards according to Moz dashboard - checking with IT for possible causes
* Performance branch testing & merging - need to determine which release it can be merged with.
* ACTION: Wil will tag and <s>justin to file an IT ticket</s> - {{bug|444378}}

== July 2nd ==
* Determine new AMO 3.4.5 dates - Candi-dates: '''Code Freeze: 7/7, Push: 7/10'''
** stephend on vacation from 7/7-7/11 (bug verifications graciously covered by juanb and ss - thanks guys!)
** Fx3 users are still suffering under {{bug|437174}} (error 261), and will continue so until a Firefox update is released. Should we add a message to the install button, linking to a wiki page (or so) explaining that they need to switch on third-party cookies if they receive this error? This would only show when logged in, for experimental add-ons. --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Urchin is back up (sorta), we have about 8M daily page views (about 2x what we had prior to Fx 3 launch)
* Draft Q3 goals for discussion:
** Launch three AMO dot releases / execute to [[Update:Roadmap|roadmap]] & triaged bug lists (with webdev)
** Rollout at least one end user engagement project
** Conduct Add-on Developer Survey
** Rollout revised AMO Developer Tools (with webdev)
** Move site metrics to Urchin 6 (with IT)
** Prototype a Pentaho-based AMO dashboard (with IT)
* Draft terms of service available for moz.com/moz.org, need to add AMO API and AMO user-specific conditional sections. Outside legal is working on it.
* Rotated the reco list - [http://blog.mozilla.com/basil/2008/07/01/featured-add-ons-rotation-for-july-2008/ blogged about it]
* ACTION: Basil to setup bug triage times to help with release/feature scheduling.

= Earlier Meeting Notes =
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Apr 2008-Jun 2008|Archive April 2008-June 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Nov 07-Mar 2008|Archive November 2007-March 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2007|Archive October-November 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2007|Archive August-September 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Dec-Jul 2007|Archive December 2006-July 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2006|Archive October-November 2006]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2006|Archive August-September 2006]]

AMO:Meeting Notes

2008-09-17T17:18:27Z

Bhashem: /* Sep 17th */

[[Update:Remora|« Back to Update:Remora]]

== AMO Project Meeting Details ==
<pre>
Wednesdays, 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern
1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) or 1-650-215-1282 or 1-650-903-0800
Conferencing Center: x91
Conference ID: 261</pre>

== Common AMO Bugzilla Queries ==
* AMO 3.5 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Code Complete - Fri, 8/29, push: Thu, TBD'''
* AMO 4.0.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO4.0.1-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, Sep 15 (11:59pm), push: Thu, Sep 18'''
* AMO 4.0.2 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.2&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.2&query_based_on=AMO4.0.2-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, Oct 6 (11:59pm), push: Thu, Oct 9'''

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== Sep 17th ==
* AMO 4.0.1 Dev & Testing Status
** I have Selenium tests for the Dev CP, but I need to convert them to use a new account (don't want to give up my password), with its associated dummy test add-on (it's currently using [https://preview.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7522/]).--stephend
** I implemented an object-based memcaching framework. I'm currently writing a little documentation on it, so that it's easy to use for you.--[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* CDNetworks update
* AMO 4.0.2 Planning
** Laura won't be able to focus on discussions for 4.0.2 (pushing feature out)
** Still need API/bandwagon features for 4.0.2 [ACTION: Fligtar to file]
** Fennec stuff in 4.0.2?
* Bandwagon Update
** New add-on, Bandwagon v0.2 delivered - [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/bandwagon/BandwagonAddons-0.2.png see screenshot]

== Sep 18th (dev) ==
* summary of the object-level caching changes
* tips on how the test cluster works and how to use it via Melanion (https://wiki.mozilla.org/Melanion)
* short tutorial on xdebug and webgrind on khan
* how to analyze queries and minimize model binding in AMO
* Does anyone else find firebot in #amo annoying? --clouserw
* Discuss [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Tools/Selenium/AMO_Automation Selenium tests] and how to integrate with SimpleTest

== Sep 10th ==
* Any question/issues with 4.0.1? (Obj invalidation needs some attention in order to nail a Monday code freeze)
* Candidate 4.0.2 bugs/enhancements ready
** Should we start on discussions now? Yes, laura to take
* AMO and Fennec - [[Fennec:Addons|See notes]]
* Dev Tools (Fligtar)
** Upload & Submission modules are done and ready for testing
** Remaining - reskinning the developer index page and details page
** Will push Dev tools with 4.0.1 - in beta/parallel mode
** Need to add L10N gettext() capability, will come 1 week after 4.0.1
** ACTION: testing strategy for dev tools (Fligtar, Stephen, Morgamic)
* Bandwagon/Collections Update (Fligtar)
** We've merged the projects, Alex will work on the webdev stuff
** ACTION: Fligtar to file API bugs needed to support bandwagon/collections
** Boriss working on mocks for weblists and feeds and then more advanced add-on capabilities
* Community Topics
** Editor revitalization plan (Rey)
** Dealing with the Backlog
** Upcoming Add-on Get togethers
*** [http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/08/toronto-mozcamp-workshops/ Moz Camp] - Toronto, Sep 15-16
*** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/MAOW Mozilla Add-ons Workshop] - Paris, Sep 20
*** [http://somethin-else.org/index.php?post/2008/08/20/Mozilla-Camp-Europe Moz Camp Europe] - Barcelona, Oct 25-26
*** Me.dium wants us to help sponsor a browser-agnostic add-on conference (Dec 11). Rey is investigating further.
* We have a student volunteer for the College Outreach Program
** Smita Periyapatna from SJSU - Yeah!
* Shifting IRC AMO Discussions to #amo
* Morgamic will be setting up a weekly? amo-dev meeting to discuss technical AMO topics/bugs

== Sep 3rd ==
* 4.0.1 - Status (on schedule)
* Extension lists & partner wizard on AMO (and how it ties into bandwagon leadwork)
* Defining "optimize"

== Aug 27th ==
* Next Release (4.0.1) - See [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/RevisedDevSchedule.pdf Morgamic's 3-week cycle template]
** Dev Start: Tue, Sep 2
** Code Freeze: Mon, Sep 15
** QA-Regression-Bug Fix thru to Thu, Sep 18
** Push: Thu, Sep 18th evening
** Planning for next release, Fri, Sep 19
** Next Cycle: Mon, Sep 22
* Reviewed the [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/Q3Roadmap.pdf Q3 AMO Roadmap] to see where we are - we are about ~70% of our intended goals
* Next-next Release (3.5.1/4.0.2) Candidate features
** Find-as-you-type
** FAQ
** Sexy search engines landing page
** Editor leaderboard
* What are we going to do with the "Addons" component in Bugzilla? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
** Mark as INVALID and tell them to contact author
** Have improved integration of Bugzilla and AMO and show in dev panel
** Talk to Tomcat
[http://shutterhost.com/places/amo/images/amo_karoke_png.jpg image of the week]

== Aug 20th ==
* AMO 3.4.7 release status - Wil will tag and file the push bug
* Release cycle - Morgamic is proposing a 3-week cycle to prevent last minute crunches and focusing on the push rather than starting the next dev cycle. Proposal to follow.
* TRUSTe proposal in hand
* Next maintenance release will be 3.5.1 - schedule TBD until we figure out the 4.0.1 stuff.
* 4.0.1 only has 1 perf-related bug. Basil to send email to IT to gather perf ideas and add to release - Morgamic/Wil to figure out who gets assigned what. Determine 3.5.1 effort and if it should be in parallel.
* Firefox Major Update readiness - will run full throttle unless there are issues. IT will be testing a new CDN network to aid
* AMO 3.5
** Preview manager was finished a couple weeks ago and Stephen has been QA'ing it and catching a few bugs that have now been fixed. The status changer is mostly finished, and that will be followed by the upload/submission tool which already has the backend done. Target date is 8/29.
* Bandwagon
** We have mockups to go off of now thanks to Boriss, so Brian King and team will start working on the first milestone which is purely extension development. Milestone 2 will begin to require webdev assistance from both website and API standpoints. Again, if you're interested in this project, just let Fligtar know and he'll add you to the Grouphub where the updated detailed schedule and requirements will be posted.

[http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff218/patyguaxupe/te-amo.jpg Image of the week]

== Aug 13th ==
* Review release status
** What's the schedule for 3.5? Answer: Awaiting Fligtar's return tomorrow, same status as last week - ETA for completion of Dev Tools is next Fri 8/22, then we need time for QA + L10N work and a push during a Sept maintenance window.
* Discussed [http://www.conduit.com Conduit]. Considering a controlled, limited return of a few Conduit toolbars to AMO.
* Discussed [http://www.TRUSTe.org TRUSTe]. Discussing with TRUSTe about a tiered certification program for add-ons and add-on authors
* Thank you and Farewell to Cesar! (XPI Diff launched, yeah! MyLists needs to find an SVN home)
* Discuss [[Update:Remora/Discussions_Revamp|discussions revamp]] - timeline for this? (Not 3.4.7 since we're still planning).
* Can we do a broadcast email to nom queue folks? Yes, Cesar to help out with the query.

== Aug 6th ==
* Three parallel releases - 3.4.7 (features/bug fixes), 4.0.1 (performance) and 3.5 (dev tools)
* AMO 3.4.7
** Enable Vanilla discussions? ACTION: Laura will build wiki page and we'll dump Vanilla for a custom system.
** '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 4.0.1
** {VERY Tentative: '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''}
* AMO 3.5 Status
** Status Manager in progress, Upload Manager remains to be done. ETA is Fri, 8/22 for code complete, need time for QA, L10N. Public push date in Sep to give time for L10N. (Justin has vacation time)
* Push for this Thu, 8/7? (XPI Differ, other?)
* Starting work on "Bandwagon" (Add-on Sharing)

== July 30th ==
* No meeting due to Firefox Summit

== July 23rd ==
* AMO 3.4.6 - how are we doing?
** Enable Vanilla Discussions?
** Replace Vanilla by a simple forum we make ourselves? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Discuss AMO/Add-ons session @ [[Summit2008/Sessions/Schedule|Fx Summit]]
* Next week's meeting?

== July 16th ==
* AMO 3.4.6 status
* Justin to walk thru the "Add-on Sharing Proposal"
* No love from Urchin - still missing data from launch (escalated), last few days are at half of total. :-(
** Sounds like {{bug|444948}} -- the SJ AMO logs were moved to a different directory and they didn't update Urchin. -flig
* rdoherty, are you willing to take on {{bug|434540}}? (yes)
* 1 or 2 stability releases? (rdoherty)

== July 9th ==
* Readiness for AMO 3.4.5 release on Thu, 7/10 evening
* AMO 3.4.6 - '''Code Freeze - 7/21 (11:59pm), push: 7/24'''
* Offer extended to AMO Community Manager
* Metrics:
** Pageviews spike from Fx3 is waning...seeing 6M PV's now
** Ping & Download counts are trending downwards according to Moz dashboard - checking with IT for possible causes
* Performance branch testing & merging - need to determine which release it can be merged with.
* ACTION: Wil will tag and <s>justin to file an IT ticket</s> - {{bug|444378}}

== July 2nd ==
* Determine new AMO 3.4.5 dates - Candi-dates: '''Code Freeze: 7/7, Push: 7/10'''
** stephend on vacation from 7/7-7/11 (bug verifications graciously covered by juanb and ss - thanks guys!)
** Fx3 users are still suffering under {{bug|437174}} (error 261), and will continue so until a Firefox update is released. Should we add a message to the install button, linking to a wiki page (or so) explaining that they need to switch on third-party cookies if they receive this error? This would only show when logged in, for experimental add-ons. --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Urchin is back up (sorta), we have about 8M daily page views (about 2x what we had prior to Fx 3 launch)
* Draft Q3 goals for discussion:
** Launch three AMO dot releases / execute to [[Update:Roadmap|roadmap]] & triaged bug lists (with webdev)
** Rollout at least one end user engagement project
** Conduct Add-on Developer Survey
** Rollout revised AMO Developer Tools (with webdev)
** Move site metrics to Urchin 6 (with IT)
** Prototype a Pentaho-based AMO dashboard (with IT)
* Draft terms of service available for moz.com/moz.org, need to add AMO API and AMO user-specific conditional sections. Outside legal is working on it.
* Rotated the reco list - [http://blog.mozilla.com/basil/2008/07/01/featured-add-ons-rotation-for-july-2008/ blogged about it]
* ACTION: Basil to setup bug triage times to help with release/feature scheduling.

= Earlier Meeting Notes =
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Apr 2008-Jun 2008|Archive April 2008-June 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Nov 07-Mar 2008|Archive November 2007-March 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2007|Archive October-November 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2007|Archive August-September 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Dec-Jul 2007|Archive December 2006-July 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2006|Archive October-November 2006]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2006|Archive August-September 2006]]

AMO:Meeting Notes

2008-09-17T00:30:09Z

Bhashem: /* Sep 17th */

[[Update:Remora|« Back to Update:Remora]]

== AMO Project Meeting Details ==
<pre>
Wednesdays, 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern
1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) or 1-650-215-1282 or 1-650-903-0800
Conferencing Center: x91
Conference ID: 261</pre>

== Common AMO Bugzilla Queries ==
* AMO 3.5 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Code Complete - Fri, 8/29, push: Thu, TBD'''
* AMO 4.0.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO4.0.1-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, Sep 15 (11:59pm), push: Thu, Sep 18'''
* AMO 4.0.2 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.2&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.2&query_based_on=AMO4.0.2-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, Oct 6 (11:59pm), push: Thu, Oct 9'''

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== Sep 17th ==
* AMO 4.0.1 Dev & Testing Status
* AMO 4.0.2 Planning
** Laura won't be able to focus on discussions for 4.0.2 (pushing feature out)
** Still need API/bandwagon features for 4.0.2
* Bandwagon Update
** New add-on delivered - [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/bandwagon/BandwagonAddons-0.2.png see screenshot]

== Sep 15th (dev) ==
* summary of the object-level caching changes
* tips on how the test cluster works and how to use it via Melanion (https://wiki.mozilla.org/Melanion)
* short tutorial on xdebug and webgrind on khan
* how to analyze queries and minimize model binding in AMO
* Does anyone else find firebot in #amo annoying? --clouserw

== Sep 10th ==
* Any question/issues with 4.0.1? (Obj invalidation needs some attention in order to nail a Monday code freeze)
* Candidate 4.0.2 bugs/enhancements ready
** Should we start on discussions now? Yes, laura to take
* AMO and Fennec - [[Fennec:Addons|See notes]]
* Dev Tools (Fligtar)
** Upload & Submission modules are done and ready for testing
** Remaining - reskinning the developer index page and details page
** Will push Dev tools with 4.0.1 - in beta/parallel mode
** Need to add L10N gettext() capability, will come 1 week after 4.0.1
** ACTION: testing strategy for dev tools (Fligtar, Stephen, Morgamic)
* Bandwagon/Collections Update (Fligtar)
** We've merged the projects, Alex will work on the webdev stuff
** ACTION: Fligtar to file API bugs needed to support bandwagon/collections
** Boriss working on mocks for weblists and feeds and then more advanced add-on capabilities
* Community Topics
** Editor revitalization plan (Rey)
** Dealing with the Backlog
** Upcoming Add-on Get togethers
*** [http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/08/toronto-mozcamp-workshops/ Moz Camp] - Toronto, Sep 15-16
*** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/MAOW Mozilla Add-ons Workshop] - Paris, Sep 20
*** [http://somethin-else.org/index.php?post/2008/08/20/Mozilla-Camp-Europe Moz Camp Europe] - Barcelona, Oct 25-26
*** Me.dium wants us to help sponsor a browser-agnostic add-on conference (Dec 11). Rey is investigating further.
* We have a student volunteer for the College Outreach Program
** Smita Periyapatna from SJSU - Yeah!
* Shifting IRC AMO Discussions to #amo
* Morgamic will be setting up a weekly? amo-dev meeting to discuss technical AMO topics/bugs

== Sep 3rd ==
* 4.0.1 - Status (on schedule)
* Extension lists & partner wizard on AMO (and how it ties into bandwagon leadwork)
* Defining "optimize"

== Aug 27th ==
* Next Release (4.0.1) - See [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/RevisedDevSchedule.pdf Morgamic's 3-week cycle template]
** Dev Start: Tue, Sep 2
** Code Freeze: Mon, Sep 15
** QA-Regression-Bug Fix thru to Thu, Sep 18
** Push: Thu, Sep 18th evening
** Planning for next release, Fri, Sep 19
** Next Cycle: Mon, Sep 22
* Reviewed the [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/Q3Roadmap.pdf Q3 AMO Roadmap] to see where we are - we are about ~70% of our intended goals
* Next-next Release (3.5.1/4.0.2) Candidate features
** Find-as-you-type
** FAQ
** Sexy search engines landing page
** Editor leaderboard
* What are we going to do with the "Addons" component in Bugzilla? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
** Mark as INVALID and tell them to contact author
** Have improved integration of Bugzilla and AMO and show in dev panel
** Talk to Tomcat
[http://shutterhost.com/places/amo/images/amo_karoke_png.jpg image of the week]

== Aug 20th ==
* AMO 3.4.7 release status - Wil will tag and file the push bug
* Release cycle - Morgamic is proposing a 3-week cycle to prevent last minute crunches and focusing on the push rather than starting the next dev cycle. Proposal to follow.
* TRUSTe proposal in hand
* Next maintenance release will be 3.5.1 - schedule TBD until we figure out the 4.0.1 stuff.
* 4.0.1 only has 1 perf-related bug. Basil to send email to IT to gather perf ideas and add to release - Morgamic/Wil to figure out who gets assigned what. Determine 3.5.1 effort and if it should be in parallel.
* Firefox Major Update readiness - will run full throttle unless there are issues. IT will be testing a new CDN network to aid
* AMO 3.5
** Preview manager was finished a couple weeks ago and Stephen has been QA'ing it and catching a few bugs that have now been fixed. The status changer is mostly finished, and that will be followed by the upload/submission tool which already has the backend done. Target date is 8/29.
* Bandwagon
** We have mockups to go off of now thanks to Boriss, so Brian King and team will start working on the first milestone which is purely extension development. Milestone 2 will begin to require webdev assistance from both website and API standpoints. Again, if you're interested in this project, just let Fligtar know and he'll add you to the Grouphub where the updated detailed schedule and requirements will be posted.

[http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff218/patyguaxupe/te-amo.jpg Image of the week]

== Aug 13th ==
* Review release status
** What's the schedule for 3.5? Answer: Awaiting Fligtar's return tomorrow, same status as last week - ETA for completion of Dev Tools is next Fri 8/22, then we need time for QA + L10N work and a push during a Sept maintenance window.
* Discussed [http://www.conduit.com Conduit]. Considering a controlled, limited return of a few Conduit toolbars to AMO.
* Discussed [http://www.TRUSTe.org TRUSTe]. Discussing with TRUSTe about a tiered certification program for add-ons and add-on authors
* Thank you and Farewell to Cesar! (XPI Diff launched, yeah! MyLists needs to find an SVN home)
* Discuss [[Update:Remora/Discussions_Revamp|discussions revamp]] - timeline for this? (Not 3.4.7 since we're still planning).
* Can we do a broadcast email to nom queue folks? Yes, Cesar to help out with the query.

== Aug 6th ==
* Three parallel releases - 3.4.7 (features/bug fixes), 4.0.1 (performance) and 3.5 (dev tools)
* AMO 3.4.7
** Enable Vanilla discussions? ACTION: Laura will build wiki page and we'll dump Vanilla for a custom system.
** '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 4.0.1
** {VERY Tentative: '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''}
* AMO 3.5 Status
** Status Manager in progress, Upload Manager remains to be done. ETA is Fri, 8/22 for code complete, need time for QA, L10N. Public push date in Sep to give time for L10N. (Justin has vacation time)
* Push for this Thu, 8/7? (XPI Differ, other?)
* Starting work on "Bandwagon" (Add-on Sharing)

== July 30th ==
* No meeting due to Firefox Summit

== July 23rd ==
* AMO 3.4.6 - how are we doing?
** Enable Vanilla Discussions?
** Replace Vanilla by a simple forum we make ourselves? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Discuss AMO/Add-ons session @ [[Summit2008/Sessions/Schedule|Fx Summit]]
* Next week's meeting?

== July 16th ==
* AMO 3.4.6 status
* Justin to walk thru the "Add-on Sharing Proposal"
* No love from Urchin - still missing data from launch (escalated), last few days are at half of total. :-(
** Sounds like {{bug|444948}} -- the SJ AMO logs were moved to a different directory and they didn't update Urchin. -flig
* rdoherty, are you willing to take on {{bug|434540}}? (yes)
* 1 or 2 stability releases? (rdoherty)

== July 9th ==
* Readiness for AMO 3.4.5 release on Thu, 7/10 evening
* AMO 3.4.6 - '''Code Freeze - 7/21 (11:59pm), push: 7/24'''
* Offer extended to AMO Community Manager
* Metrics:
** Pageviews spike from Fx3 is waning...seeing 6M PV's now
** Ping & Download counts are trending downwards according to Moz dashboard - checking with IT for possible causes
* Performance branch testing & merging - need to determine which release it can be merged with.
* ACTION: Wil will tag and <s>justin to file an IT ticket</s> - {{bug|444378}}

== July 2nd ==
* Determine new AMO 3.4.5 dates - Candi-dates: '''Code Freeze: 7/7, Push: 7/10'''
** stephend on vacation from 7/7-7/11 (bug verifications graciously covered by juanb and ss - thanks guys!)
** Fx3 users are still suffering under {{bug|437174}} (error 261), and will continue so until a Firefox update is released. Should we add a message to the install button, linking to a wiki page (or so) explaining that they need to switch on third-party cookies if they receive this error? This would only show when logged in, for experimental add-ons. --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Urchin is back up (sorta), we have about 8M daily page views (about 2x what we had prior to Fx 3 launch)
* Draft Q3 goals for discussion:
** Launch three AMO dot releases / execute to [[Update:Roadmap|roadmap]] & triaged bug lists (with webdev)
** Rollout at least one end user engagement project
** Conduct Add-on Developer Survey
** Rollout revised AMO Developer Tools (with webdev)
** Move site metrics to Urchin 6 (with IT)
** Prototype a Pentaho-based AMO dashboard (with IT)
* Draft terms of service available for moz.com/moz.org, need to add AMO API and AMO user-specific conditional sections. Outside legal is working on it.
* Rotated the reco list - [http://blog.mozilla.com/basil/2008/07/01/featured-add-ons-rotation-for-july-2008/ blogged about it]
* ACTION: Basil to setup bug triage times to help with release/feature scheduling.

= Earlier Meeting Notes =
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Apr 2008-Jun 2008|Archive April 2008-June 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Nov 07-Mar 2008|Archive November 2007-March 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2007|Archive October-November 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2007|Archive August-September 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Dec-Jul 2007|Archive December 2006-July 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2006|Archive October-November 2006]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2006|Archive August-September 2006]]

AMO:Meeting Notes

2008-09-17T00:23:38Z

Bhashem: /* Common AMO Bugzilla Queries */

[[Update:Remora|« Back to Update:Remora]]

== AMO Project Meeting Details ==
<pre>
Wednesdays, 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern
1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) or 1-650-215-1282 or 1-650-903-0800
Conferencing Center: x91
Conference ID: 261</pre>

== Common AMO Bugzilla Queries ==
* AMO 3.5 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Code Complete - Fri, 8/29, push: Thu, TBD'''
* AMO 4.0.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO4.0.1-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, Sep 15 (11:59pm), push: Thu, Sep 18'''
* AMO 4.0.2 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.2&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.2&query_based_on=AMO4.0.2-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, Oct 6 (11:59pm), push: Thu, Oct 9'''

__TOC__

== Sep 17th ==
* AMO 4.0.1 Dev & Testing Status
* AMO 4.0.2 Planning

== Sep 15th (dev) ==
* summary of the object-level caching changes
* tips on how the test cluster works and how to use it via Melanion (https://wiki.mozilla.org/Melanion)
* short tutorial on xdebug and webgrind on khan
* how to analyze queries and minimize model binding in AMO
* Does anyone else find firebot in #amo annoying? --clouserw

== Sep 10th ==
* Any question/issues with 4.0.1? (Obj invalidation needs some attention in order to nail a Monday code freeze)
* Candidate 4.0.2 bugs/enhancements ready
** Should we start on discussions now? Yes, laura to take
* AMO and Fennec - [[Fennec:Addons|See notes]]
* Dev Tools (Fligtar)
** Upload & Submission modules are done and ready for testing
** Remaining - reskinning the developer index page and details page
** Will push Dev tools with 4.0.1 - in beta/parallel mode
** Need to add L10N gettext() capability, will come 1 week after 4.0.1
** ACTION: testing strategy for dev tools (Fligtar, Stephen, Morgamic)
* Bandwagon/Collections Update (Fligtar)
** We've merged the projects, Alex will work on the webdev stuff
** ACTION: Fligtar to file API bugs needed to support bandwagon/collections
** Boriss working on mocks for weblists and feeds and then more advanced add-on capabilities
* Community Topics
** Editor revitalization plan (Rey)
** Dealing with the Backlog
** Upcoming Add-on Get togethers
*** [http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/08/toronto-mozcamp-workshops/ Moz Camp] - Toronto, Sep 15-16
*** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/MAOW Mozilla Add-ons Workshop] - Paris, Sep 20
*** [http://somethin-else.org/index.php?post/2008/08/20/Mozilla-Camp-Europe Moz Camp Europe] - Barcelona, Oct 25-26
*** Me.dium wants us to help sponsor a browser-agnostic add-on conference (Dec 11). Rey is investigating further.
* We have a student volunteer for the College Outreach Program
** Smita Periyapatna from SJSU - Yeah!
* Shifting IRC AMO Discussions to #amo
* Morgamic will be setting up a weekly? amo-dev meeting to discuss technical AMO topics/bugs

== Sep 3rd ==
* 4.0.1 - Status (on schedule)
* Extension lists & partner wizard on AMO (and how it ties into bandwagon leadwork)
* Defining "optimize"

== Aug 27th ==
* Next Release (4.0.1) - See [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/RevisedDevSchedule.pdf Morgamic's 3-week cycle template]
** Dev Start: Tue, Sep 2
** Code Freeze: Mon, Sep 15
** QA-Regression-Bug Fix thru to Thu, Sep 18
** Push: Thu, Sep 18th evening
** Planning for next release, Fri, Sep 19
** Next Cycle: Mon, Sep 22
* Reviewed the [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/Q3Roadmap.pdf Q3 AMO Roadmap] to see where we are - we are about ~70% of our intended goals
* Next-next Release (3.5.1/4.0.2) Candidate features
** Find-as-you-type
** FAQ
** Sexy search engines landing page
** Editor leaderboard
* What are we going to do with the "Addons" component in Bugzilla? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
** Mark as INVALID and tell them to contact author
** Have improved integration of Bugzilla and AMO and show in dev panel
** Talk to Tomcat
[http://shutterhost.com/places/amo/images/amo_karoke_png.jpg image of the week]

== Aug 20th ==
* AMO 3.4.7 release status - Wil will tag and file the push bug
* Release cycle - Morgamic is proposing a 3-week cycle to prevent last minute crunches and focusing on the push rather than starting the next dev cycle. Proposal to follow.
* TRUSTe proposal in hand
* Next maintenance release will be 3.5.1 - schedule TBD until we figure out the 4.0.1 stuff.
* 4.0.1 only has 1 perf-related bug. Basil to send email to IT to gather perf ideas and add to release - Morgamic/Wil to figure out who gets assigned what. Determine 3.5.1 effort and if it should be in parallel.
* Firefox Major Update readiness - will run full throttle unless there are issues. IT will be testing a new CDN network to aid
* AMO 3.5
** Preview manager was finished a couple weeks ago and Stephen has been QA'ing it and catching a few bugs that have now been fixed. The status changer is mostly finished, and that will be followed by the upload/submission tool which already has the backend done. Target date is 8/29.
* Bandwagon
** We have mockups to go off of now thanks to Boriss, so Brian King and team will start working on the first milestone which is purely extension development. Milestone 2 will begin to require webdev assistance from both website and API standpoints. Again, if you're interested in this project, just let Fligtar know and he'll add you to the Grouphub where the updated detailed schedule and requirements will be posted.

[http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff218/patyguaxupe/te-amo.jpg Image of the week]

== Aug 13th ==
* Review release status
** What's the schedule for 3.5? Answer: Awaiting Fligtar's return tomorrow, same status as last week - ETA for completion of Dev Tools is next Fri 8/22, then we need time for QA + L10N work and a push during a Sept maintenance window.
* Discussed [http://www.conduit.com Conduit]. Considering a controlled, limited return of a few Conduit toolbars to AMO.
* Discussed [http://www.TRUSTe.org TRUSTe]. Discussing with TRUSTe about a tiered certification program for add-ons and add-on authors
* Thank you and Farewell to Cesar! (XPI Diff launched, yeah! MyLists needs to find an SVN home)
* Discuss [[Update:Remora/Discussions_Revamp|discussions revamp]] - timeline for this? (Not 3.4.7 since we're still planning).
* Can we do a broadcast email to nom queue folks? Yes, Cesar to help out with the query.

== Aug 6th ==
* Three parallel releases - 3.4.7 (features/bug fixes), 4.0.1 (performance) and 3.5 (dev tools)
* AMO 3.4.7
** Enable Vanilla discussions? ACTION: Laura will build wiki page and we'll dump Vanilla for a custom system.
** '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 4.0.1
** {VERY Tentative: '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''}
* AMO 3.5 Status
** Status Manager in progress, Upload Manager remains to be done. ETA is Fri, 8/22 for code complete, need time for QA, L10N. Public push date in Sep to give time for L10N. (Justin has vacation time)
* Push for this Thu, 8/7? (XPI Differ, other?)
* Starting work on "Bandwagon" (Add-on Sharing)

== July 30th ==
* No meeting due to Firefox Summit

== July 23rd ==
* AMO 3.4.6 - how are we doing?
** Enable Vanilla Discussions?
** Replace Vanilla by a simple forum we make ourselves? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Discuss AMO/Add-ons session @ [[Summit2008/Sessions/Schedule|Fx Summit]]
* Next week's meeting?

== July 16th ==
* AMO 3.4.6 status
* Justin to walk thru the "Add-on Sharing Proposal"
* No love from Urchin - still missing data from launch (escalated), last few days are at half of total. :-(
** Sounds like {{bug|444948}} -- the SJ AMO logs were moved to a different directory and they didn't update Urchin. -flig
* rdoherty, are you willing to take on {{bug|434540}}? (yes)
* 1 or 2 stability releases? (rdoherty)

== July 9th ==
* Readiness for AMO 3.4.5 release on Thu, 7/10 evening
* AMO 3.4.6 - '''Code Freeze - 7/21 (11:59pm), push: 7/24'''
* Offer extended to AMO Community Manager
* Metrics:
** Pageviews spike from Fx3 is waning...seeing 6M PV's now
** Ping & Download counts are trending downwards according to Moz dashboard - checking with IT for possible causes
* Performance branch testing & merging - need to determine which release it can be merged with.
* ACTION: Wil will tag and <s>justin to file an IT ticket</s> - {{bug|444378}}

== July 2nd ==
* Determine new AMO 3.4.5 dates - Candi-dates: '''Code Freeze: 7/7, Push: 7/10'''
** stephend on vacation from 7/7-7/11 (bug verifications graciously covered by juanb and ss - thanks guys!)
** Fx3 users are still suffering under {{bug|437174}} (error 261), and will continue so until a Firefox update is released. Should we add a message to the install button, linking to a wiki page (or so) explaining that they need to switch on third-party cookies if they receive this error? This would only show when logged in, for experimental add-ons. --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Urchin is back up (sorta), we have about 8M daily page views (about 2x what we had prior to Fx 3 launch)
* Draft Q3 goals for discussion:
** Launch three AMO dot releases / execute to [[Update:Roadmap|roadmap]] & triaged bug lists (with webdev)
** Rollout at least one end user engagement project
** Conduct Add-on Developer Survey
** Rollout revised AMO Developer Tools (with webdev)
** Move site metrics to Urchin 6 (with IT)
** Prototype a Pentaho-based AMO dashboard (with IT)
* Draft terms of service available for moz.com/moz.org, need to add AMO API and AMO user-specific conditional sections. Outside legal is working on it.
* Rotated the reco list - [http://blog.mozilla.com/basil/2008/07/01/featured-add-ons-rotation-for-july-2008/ blogged about it]
* ACTION: Basil to setup bug triage times to help with release/feature scheduling.

= Earlier Meeting Notes =
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Apr 2008-Jun 2008|Archive April 2008-June 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Nov 07-Mar 2008|Archive November 2007-March 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2007|Archive October-November 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2007|Archive August-September 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Dec-Jul 2007|Archive December 2006-July 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2006|Archive October-November 2006]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2006|Archive August-September 2006]]

AMO:Meeting Notes

2008-09-16T22:56:41Z

Bhashem: /* Sep 18th (dev) */

[[Update:Remora|« Back to Update:Remora]]

== AMO Project Meeting Details ==
<pre>
Wednesdays, 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern
1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) or 1-650-215-1282 or 1-650-903-0800
Conferencing Center: x91
Conference ID: 261</pre>

== Common AMO Bugzilla Queries ==
* AMO 3.5 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Code Complete - Fri, 8/29, push: Thu, TBD'''
* AMO 4.0.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO4.0.1-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, Sep 15 (11:59pm), push: Thu, Sep 18'''
* AMO 4.0.2 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.2&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.2&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, TBD (11:59pm), push: Thu, TBD'''

__TOC__

== Sep 17th ==
* AMO 4.0.1 Dev & Testing Status
* AMO 4.0.2 Planning

== Sep 15th (dev) ==
* summary of the object-level caching changes
* tips on how the test cluster works and how to use it via Melanion (https://wiki.mozilla.org/Melanion)
* short tutorial on xdebug and webgrind on khan
* how to analyze queries and minimize model binding in AMO
* Does anyone else find firebot in #amo annoying? --clouserw

== Sep 10th ==
* Any question/issues with 4.0.1? (Obj invalidation needs some attention in order to nail a Monday code freeze)
* Candidate 4.0.2 bugs/enhancements ready
** Should we start on discussions now? Yes, laura to take
* AMO and Fennec - [[Fennec:Addons|See notes]]
* Dev Tools (Fligtar)
** Upload & Submission modules are done and ready for testing
** Remaining - reskinning the developer index page and details page
** Will push Dev tools with 4.0.1 - in beta/parallel mode
** Need to add L10N gettext() capability, will come 1 week after 4.0.1
** ACTION: testing strategy for dev tools (Fligtar, Stephen, Morgamic)
* Bandwagon/Collections Update (Fligtar)
** We've merged the projects, Alex will work on the webdev stuff
** ACTION: Fligtar to file API bugs needed to support bandwagon/collections
** Boriss working on mocks for weblists and feeds and then more advanced add-on capabilities
* Community Topics
** Editor revitalization plan (Rey)
** Dealing with the Backlog
** Upcoming Add-on Get togethers
*** [http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/08/toronto-mozcamp-workshops/ Moz Camp] - Toronto, Sep 15-16
*** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/MAOW Mozilla Add-ons Workshop] - Paris, Sep 20
*** [http://somethin-else.org/index.php?post/2008/08/20/Mozilla-Camp-Europe Moz Camp Europe] - Barcelona, Oct 25-26
*** Me.dium wants us to help sponsor a browser-agnostic add-on conference (Dec 11). Rey is investigating further.
* We have a student volunteer for the College Outreach Program
** Smita Periyapatna from SJSU - Yeah!
* Shifting IRC AMO Discussions to #amo
* Morgamic will be setting up a weekly? amo-dev meeting to discuss technical AMO topics/bugs

== Sep 3rd ==
* 4.0.1 - Status (on schedule)
* Extension lists & partner wizard on AMO (and how it ties into bandwagon leadwork)
* Defining "optimize"

== Aug 27th ==
* Next Release (4.0.1) - See [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/RevisedDevSchedule.pdf Morgamic's 3-week cycle template]
** Dev Start: Tue, Sep 2
** Code Freeze: Mon, Sep 15
** QA-Regression-Bug Fix thru to Thu, Sep 18
** Push: Thu, Sep 18th evening
** Planning for next release, Fri, Sep 19
** Next Cycle: Mon, Sep 22
* Reviewed the [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/Q3Roadmap.pdf Q3 AMO Roadmap] to see where we are - we are about ~70% of our intended goals
* Next-next Release (3.5.1/4.0.2) Candidate features
** Find-as-you-type
** FAQ
** Sexy search engines landing page
** Editor leaderboard
* What are we going to do with the "Addons" component in Bugzilla? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
** Mark as INVALID and tell them to contact author
** Have improved integration of Bugzilla and AMO and show in dev panel
** Talk to Tomcat
[http://shutterhost.com/places/amo/images/amo_karoke_png.jpg image of the week]

== Aug 20th ==
* AMO 3.4.7 release status - Wil will tag and file the push bug
* Release cycle - Morgamic is proposing a 3-week cycle to prevent last minute crunches and focusing on the push rather than starting the next dev cycle. Proposal to follow.
* TRUSTe proposal in hand
* Next maintenance release will be 3.5.1 - schedule TBD until we figure out the 4.0.1 stuff.
* 4.0.1 only has 1 perf-related bug. Basil to send email to IT to gather perf ideas and add to release - Morgamic/Wil to figure out who gets assigned what. Determine 3.5.1 effort and if it should be in parallel.
* Firefox Major Update readiness - will run full throttle unless there are issues. IT will be testing a new CDN network to aid
* AMO 3.5
** Preview manager was finished a couple weeks ago and Stephen has been QA'ing it and catching a few bugs that have now been fixed. The status changer is mostly finished, and that will be followed by the upload/submission tool which already has the backend done. Target date is 8/29.
* Bandwagon
** We have mockups to go off of now thanks to Boriss, so Brian King and team will start working on the first milestone which is purely extension development. Milestone 2 will begin to require webdev assistance from both website and API standpoints. Again, if you're interested in this project, just let Fligtar know and he'll add you to the Grouphub where the updated detailed schedule and requirements will be posted.

[http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff218/patyguaxupe/te-amo.jpg Image of the week]

== Aug 13th ==
* Review release status
** What's the schedule for 3.5? Answer: Awaiting Fligtar's return tomorrow, same status as last week - ETA for completion of Dev Tools is next Fri 8/22, then we need time for QA + L10N work and a push during a Sept maintenance window.
* Discussed [http://www.conduit.com Conduit]. Considering a controlled, limited return of a few Conduit toolbars to AMO.
* Discussed [http://www.TRUSTe.org TRUSTe]. Discussing with TRUSTe about a tiered certification program for add-ons and add-on authors
* Thank you and Farewell to Cesar! (XPI Diff launched, yeah! MyLists needs to find an SVN home)
* Discuss [[Update:Remora/Discussions_Revamp|discussions revamp]] - timeline for this? (Not 3.4.7 since we're still planning).
* Can we do a broadcast email to nom queue folks? Yes, Cesar to help out with the query.

== Aug 6th ==
* Three parallel releases - 3.4.7 (features/bug fixes), 4.0.1 (performance) and 3.5 (dev tools)
* AMO 3.4.7
** Enable Vanilla discussions? ACTION: Laura will build wiki page and we'll dump Vanilla for a custom system.
** '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 4.0.1
** {VERY Tentative: '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''}
* AMO 3.5 Status
** Status Manager in progress, Upload Manager remains to be done. ETA is Fri, 8/22 for code complete, need time for QA, L10N. Public push date in Sep to give time for L10N. (Justin has vacation time)
* Push for this Thu, 8/7? (XPI Differ, other?)
* Starting work on "Bandwagon" (Add-on Sharing)

== July 30th ==
* No meeting due to Firefox Summit

== July 23rd ==
* AMO 3.4.6 - how are we doing?
** Enable Vanilla Discussions?
** Replace Vanilla by a simple forum we make ourselves? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Discuss AMO/Add-ons session @ [[Summit2008/Sessions/Schedule|Fx Summit]]
* Next week's meeting?

== July 16th ==
* AMO 3.4.6 status
* Justin to walk thru the "Add-on Sharing Proposal"
* No love from Urchin - still missing data from launch (escalated), last few days are at half of total. :-(
** Sounds like {{bug|444948}} -- the SJ AMO logs were moved to a different directory and they didn't update Urchin. -flig
* rdoherty, are you willing to take on {{bug|434540}}? (yes)
* 1 or 2 stability releases? (rdoherty)

== July 9th ==
* Readiness for AMO 3.4.5 release on Thu, 7/10 evening
* AMO 3.4.6 - '''Code Freeze - 7/21 (11:59pm), push: 7/24'''
* Offer extended to AMO Community Manager
* Metrics:
** Pageviews spike from Fx3 is waning...seeing 6M PV's now
** Ping & Download counts are trending downwards according to Moz dashboard - checking with IT for possible causes
* Performance branch testing & merging - need to determine which release it can be merged with.
* ACTION: Wil will tag and <s>justin to file an IT ticket</s> - {{bug|444378}}

== July 2nd ==
* Determine new AMO 3.4.5 dates - Candi-dates: '''Code Freeze: 7/7, Push: 7/10'''
** stephend on vacation from 7/7-7/11 (bug verifications graciously covered by juanb and ss - thanks guys!)
** Fx3 users are still suffering under {{bug|437174}} (error 261), and will continue so until a Firefox update is released. Should we add a message to the install button, linking to a wiki page (or so) explaining that they need to switch on third-party cookies if they receive this error? This would only show when logged in, for experimental add-ons. --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Urchin is back up (sorta), we have about 8M daily page views (about 2x what we had prior to Fx 3 launch)
* Draft Q3 goals for discussion:
** Launch three AMO dot releases / execute to [[Update:Roadmap|roadmap]] & triaged bug lists (with webdev)
** Rollout at least one end user engagement project
** Conduct Add-on Developer Survey
** Rollout revised AMO Developer Tools (with webdev)
** Move site metrics to Urchin 6 (with IT)
** Prototype a Pentaho-based AMO dashboard (with IT)
* Draft terms of service available for moz.com/moz.org, need to add AMO API and AMO user-specific conditional sections. Outside legal is working on it.
* Rotated the reco list - [http://blog.mozilla.com/basil/2008/07/01/featured-add-ons-rotation-for-july-2008/ blogged about it]
* ACTION: Basil to setup bug triage times to help with release/feature scheduling.

= Earlier Meeting Notes =
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Apr 2008-Jun 2008|Archive April 2008-June 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Nov 07-Mar 2008|Archive November 2007-March 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2007|Archive October-November 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2007|Archive August-September 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Dec-Jul 2007|Archive December 2006-July 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2006|Archive October-November 2006]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2006|Archive August-September 2006]]

WeeklyUpdates/2008-09-15

2008-09-15T19:49:04Z

Bhashem: /* Webdev, Add-ons, AMO */

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'''Meeting Details'''
* 1:00pm Pacific time (20:00 UTC until November 2, 2008)
* Mozilla HQ, 1st floor conference table
* +1 650 903 0800 x91 Conf# 8600 (US/International)
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* +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8600 (US Toll Free)
* join irc.mozilla.org #staffmeeting for backchannel

'''note:''' all participants are muted automatically; if you want to talk, press *1 to un-mute yourself

= WeeklyUpdate Streaming Video & Podcast update =
You can watch the weekly meetings live at [http://air.mozilla.com Air Mozilla]

= Friends of the Tree [[Image:Tree.gif|Friends of the Tree]] =

Chris Blizzard nominated Ehsan Akhgari for helping to make Private Browsing a reality: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=248970 https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Ehsan/PrivateBrowsingForExtensions

Dan Portillo nominated Stas Malolepszy and Seth Bindernagel for helping to visual and present the data for the Summit Survey.

Please send FotT nominations to [mailto:asa@mozilla.org asa@mozilla.org]. This is a great opportunity for the community to recognize those who go above and beyond, so please tell me when you see that happening. Thanks.

= Development Updates =

== Fx 2->3 Major Update / Fx 2.0.0.17 / Fx 3.0.2 ==

== Gecko 1.9.1 ==
* [http://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/1.9.1 Interesting queries related to Gecko 1.9.1]
* [http://tinyurl.com/3jsumu 21 1.9.1 blockers (up from 16 last week!)].
* [http://tinyurl.com/3uzqh6 144 wanted bugs (also up)]
** 20 P1s. These are bugs we feel would really, really make a good release if we had a solid handful completed.
** 45 P2s. These are medium complexity bugs/changes that are nice to have.
** 34 P3s. The lowest priority bugs for this release. These are the ones that we will definitely take, but the others take priority.

== Firefox 3.1 ==

* Announced that we're going to be taking a handful of features in FF 3.1 beta '''2''': http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.planning/browse_thread/thread/38071329876c4877# dev-planning message
** details of specific features and landing timeline to come over the next 1-2 weeks
** beta 1 features should still target beta 1 freeze (Sept 30)

== TB 3 ==

== Mobile ==

== IT ==
* Continuing CDN Trials
** Testing addons.mozilla.org behind CDNetworks {{bug|450745}}
* Upcoming Hg/SVN/CVS downtime [http://blog.mozilla.com/it/2008/09/15/upcoming-hgsvncvs-outage-maintenance-sept-18-7pm-pdt-0200-utc/ blog post]

== Release Engineering ==

== QA ==
Firefox and Thunderbird 2.0.0.17
* Tested for Beta release
* Created [[Thunderbird:2.0.0.17:Test_Plan|Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 test plan]]

Firefox 3.0.2
* Tested for Beta release. Verified bug fixes.

Firefox 3.1
* Feature test development
** Worked on CSS Transform tests [ctalbert]
** Talked with Jonas about XHR tests [ctalbert]
** Wrote Litmus testcases for the Location Bar [stephend]
** Wrote test plan for addons updates and plugin blocklisting [tchung]
* Ctrl-Tab and XHR Testplan review completed
* Accessibility: Lots and lots of JAWS 10 testing [marcoz]

WebDev Testing [stephend]
* AMO: Continued work on 4.0.1. Began writing a Selenium testcase for the Developer Control Panel
* SUMO: Verified the fixed bugs for 0.6.4
* Graph Server: Verified bug fixes
* Spread Firefox: Wrote a BFT

Test Dev/Automation
* Adding a anonymous XPath inspector to allow specifying elements that are unnamed in the DOM to automated Gristmill tests [adam]
* developed Mercurial bisect script for detecting changesets which regress or fix javascript tests [bc]

Mobile
* Preliminary work with Fennec (including N810 update and setup to Diablo) [abillings, timr]
* Troubleshooting mochitest failures for fennec [ctalbert, jmaher]
* Getting new test developer, jmaher, up to speed [ctalbert, jmaher]

Community
* Prepped for [[DeveloperDays/TorontoSept2008/Schedule|Seneca Dev Day]] presentations. We have a Testing Tools track on Tuesday, Sept 16. [ctalbert, tomcat, timr]
* Planning continues for the Mozilla EU Camp (Oct 25).
* QMO2 Beta is wrapping up. It is stages on Mozilla services
* Accessibility: Participated in discussion on IAccessible2 group about certain implementation details of static text, spelling error attributes and other related issues.

== Security ==

== Marketing/PR ==

'''Consumer Research'''

* The first installment of the Quarterly Customer Survey comes out tomorrow with the 3.0.2 release.
* The opt-in survey will only be visible on the What's New page to 10% of people in 10 locales.
* You can find more information on http://www.giantspatula.com/ and http://livetolaugh85.blogspot.com/.

'''PR'''
* [http://www.thehenryford.org/ Mitchell participating in oral history project, "Collecting Innovation Today" for the Henry Ford Museum.] Filming in Mountain View next Monday
* [http://www.misti.com/default.asp?page=65&Return=70&ProductID=7154 Window keynoted at IT Security World this morning] "Building Multi-Layer Defenses to Mitigate Threats Attackers Haven't Thought of Yet"
* FF3.1 to gain private browsing mode highlights [http://www.informationweek.com/news/internet/browsers/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=210601372 InformationWeek], [http://www.scmagazineus.com/Firefox-adds-privacy-mode/article/116612/ SC Magazine], [http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=10018 ZDNet]

'''Events'''
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/DeveloperDays/TorontoSept2008/Schedule MozCamp Toronto] is underway. Clint Talbert is also hosting hands-on testing workshops there.

'''Search Engine Marketing'''

== Support ==
* Wiki page with the [http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Weekly+common+issues most common Firefox issues] and feature requests we're seeing is up on the SUMO wiki.
* The data primarily comes from Live Chat and the forum (we're still working on getting reliable poll stats from the Knowledge Base, which is an important part since it gives us quantifiable data).
* The idea is that this will be shared with the people calling in to the SUMO meeting on Mondays so everyone gets a chance to sync up and provide missing info before it's shared with the rest of the world. :)

== Metrics ==

== Evangelism ==
* Mozilla Developer Center:
** Planning underway for updating to the just-released MindTouch Deki 8.08 release, hopefully this week.
** Continuing work on cleanup of remaining issues following the transition to Deki.
** For a list of priority items we've asked MindTouch to address, see [http://developer.mozilla.org/User:Sheppy/MindTouch_Deki_bug_priorities this list].
** Documentation work for Firefox 3.1 is underway. Please make sure any developer-impacting changes are listed on the [http://developer.mozilla.org/en/Firefox_3.1_for_developers Firefox 3.1 for Developers] page so we can be sure they get documented.

== Mozilla Labs ==

== Webdev, Add-ons, AMO ==
* Graph Server
** We will be dumping all discrete data older than 60 days starting tomorrow. We will have a backup and won't be losing our continuous data, so we can always view old average data, just not individual tests.
*** Contact graphserver@mozilla.com if you have questions or problems with this
** Push going out this week to add buildids and [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=Webtools&component=Graph+Server&target_milestone=0.5&long_desc_type=substring&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=CLOSED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=exact&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= other fixes].
* Socorro
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=Webtools&component=Socorro&target_milestone=0.6&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=DUPLICATE&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=Socorro-0.6&query_based_on=Socorro-0.6&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= 0.6 milestone set] -- included are optimization of the PHP reporter and fixing topcrashers -- also working on documentation for refactored pieces and status pages.
* AMO
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO4.0.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= AMO 4.0.1] code freeze is tonight
** Planning has begun on [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.2&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= AMO 4.0.2] -- part of this release will likely be collections/favorite lists
** Launched an [http://blog.mozilla.com/basil/2008/09/12/add-on-developer-survey/ add-on developer survey]
** Revised Add-on Developer Tools now available for testing on [https://preview.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/developers/dashboard preview site]

== L10n ==

= Foundation Updates =

= Roundtable =

* Firefox Licensing -- EULAs, FLOSS licenses, where we are and where we're heading

= Other Business =

Blocklisting

2008-09-12T18:29:16Z

Bhashem: /* Blocklisting Policy */

Blocklisting is the ability to disable errant add-ons and plugins for all Firefox users. The [http://www.mozilla.com/blocklist/ current list of blocklisted items] is published to mozilla.com

= Blocklisting Policy =

* Block add-ons & plugins:
** with versions with known vulnerabilities or major user-facing issues
** with version ranges with known vulnerabilities
** with fatal bugs (client crashes on startup or something causing an endless loop of unusability)

* Don't block:
** before we work with author/vendor to send out an update, so don't block the most recent version of a major addon/plugin
** for minor bugs or non-popular addons/plugins (crashes on event calls, messed up UI, etc.)
** if user has disabled compatibility checking and add-on causes problems/crashes
** plugins that are pre-release, alpha or beta

= How to Blocklist an Add-on =
# file a [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?alias=&assigned_to=nobody%40mozilla.org&blocked=&bug_file_loc=http%3A%2F%2F&bug_severity=normal&bug_status=NEW&comment=&component=Blocklisting&contenttypeentry=&contenttypemethod=autodetect&contenttypeselection=text%2Fplain&data=&dependson=&description=&flag_type-250=X&flag_type-270=X&flag_type-271=X&flag_type-369=X&flag_type-374=X&flag_type-385=X&flag_type-389=X&flag_type-4=X&form_name=enter_bug&keywords=&maketemplate=Remember%20values%20as%20bookmarkable%20template&op_sys=All&priority=--&product=addons.mozilla.org&qa_contact=blocklisting%40add-ons.bugs&rep_platform=All&short_desc=&target_milestone=---&version=unspecified Blocklisting bug]
# include extension guid, extension versions to be blocklisted and all affected appliction guids and version ranges
# submit the bug and make sure to reference any related bugs

= More Information =
* Current [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&component=Blocklisting&long_desc_type=substring&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=exact&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= list of open Blocklisting bugs/requests]
* See here for additional [[Extension_Blocklisting|details & information about blocklisting]]
*Firefox 3 blocklisting - plugin-related open bugs {{bug|391731}}

AMO:FAQ

2008-09-11T21:09:28Z

Bhashem:

{{amo}}

__NOTOC__

This FAQ for the [http://addons.mozilla.org AMO site] addresses some topics not currently covered by the Firefox Support website. The Support website includes introductory information about [http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Customizing+Firefox+with+add-ons customizing Firefox with add-ons] as well as articles on:
* Troubleshooting [http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Unable+to+install+add-ons add-on installation], [http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Troubleshooting+plugins plugins] & [http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Troubleshooting+extensions+and+themes general issues].
* [http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Uninstalling+add-ons How to uninstall add-ons] and [http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Cannot+uninstall+an+add-on troubleshooting uninstallation].
* [http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Gray+bar+below+the+status+bar Dealing with problematic add-ons / Gray Bar issue]

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/pages/experimentalAddons

= Firefox Add-on Questions =
== If I disable an add-on in Firefox, will that remove it from my browser? ==
== When I try to install an add-on, the dialog box says "Author not verified". Is there a problem with the add-on? ==

= Add-on Site/AMO =
== Where can I find new themes for Firefox? ==
== I see several add-ons which provide the same capabilities. How do I decide which one is best? ==

Here
= Update Service =
= Blocklisting Service =

=== I see a great add-on but it says that it's only compatible with Firefox 2.x. Can I still install it in Firefox 3.x? ===
=== How do I backup all of the add-ons and themes that I've installed? ===
=== I installed a new theme but would like to revert back to the Firefox default theme. How do I do that? ===
=== If I have an issue with an add-on, should I contact Mozilla? ===
=== What checks are in place to make sure that add-ons are stable and safe to use? ===
=== I want to contact an add-on author but he won't reply? ===
=== I've upgraded to Firefox 3.x but my add-on no longer works? Why is that? ===
=== I've added an add-on and now Firefox is acting funny? What do I do? ===
=== I want to remove an add-on but I don't know where or how to do it? ===
=== What is Firefox's Safe Mode feature? ===
=== What are experimental add-ons? ===
=== Can I submit requests for new add-ons? ===
=== I'm looking for an add-on developer to help me on a project. Is there a place I can post a request? ===
=== Is there a way to sync the add-ons installed on one computer onto another computer? ===
=== How many add-ons can I install? ===

This FAQ is meant for end users; developer FAQ should go in the
author's section of the [http://wiki.mozilla.org/Update:Authors site].

=== What applications and versions are supported? ===
Please see the complete list [http://addons.mozilla.org/pages/appversions here].

=== How do I delete my add-on? ===
Due to security concerns, it is not possible to delete an add-on once its GUID has been submitted to AMO. Instead, you can "disable" your add-on which will hide it from searches, display pages, and automatic updates. You can disable your add-on by clicking the Disable button on the Edit Add-on page. You can go back at any time and re-enable your add-on from the same page.

=== Why aren't add-on updates sent out for sandbox'ed add-ons? ===
Due to security concerns. Add-ons in the sandbox are unmoderated. If automatic updates were enabled, then this could be used for malicious purposes. Going "public" forces a review by an editor and lessens the chance of a rogue add-on doing damage thru automatic updating.

== How is the recommended list/editor's choice list generated? ==
== How do I get my add-on recommended? ==

Plugins:ImpovementPlan

2008-09-11T18:38:57Z

Bhashem: /* PFS */

During a discussion of folks involved with Firefox and PFS, we identified the following efforts that need to be coordinated in order to make the Firefox plugin experience better.

== Problem Summary ==
* [[Blocklisting|Plugin blocklisting]] is currently too jarring an experience. It's a hammer with little notification to the end user. Needs a redesign. Perhaps include in-page notification (a la malware) with the ability to continue, upgrade, block, etc...
* There is a long queue of plugins that want to be added to PFS. Currently, the user experience of encountering unknown content types is bad. No guidance is given to the user to help them figure out how to deal with the new formatted content they are encountering. (Perhaps we need 2 tiers of plugins with different levels of vouching).
* The plug-in install process on Vista is broken
* It's hard to keep the PFS service updated with the latest and greatest from the vendors (do we need to evangelize an API/service?)
* There aren't enough content types hosted (or pointed to) on AMO's [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:7 plugins page]
* Users sometimes have to install the same plugin twice, once for IE and then again when they install Firefox

== Multiple Efforts ==
To try to attack this problem will require coordination from various groups and with different sub-efforts.

=== Firefox ===
* Outline the use cases and how we'd like it to work
* Can we do an update ping for plugins?
* Try to get stuff done for 3.0.3 & 3.1

=== PFS ===
* Continue to offer a service URL with substitutions (e.g. give me Flash for Windows, redirect me to download)
* Put up a web page/service that accomodates
** Flash and Flash Alternatives
** Choose an MP3 handler
** given a mime type, what can I use
* Build a Listing/Admin/Submit UI
* Change to a relational database that maps mime types to plugins
* Coordinate with MozDev on [plugins.mozilla.org PluginDoc] as it is the most definitive plugin database for Firefox
* Move plugins separately from AMO (e.g. addon.mozilla.org/plugins)

=== Policy ===
* Blocklist criteria
** Decision Group: security, partnership side, steering committee overview, FIrefox team, metrics to understand deployed impact
* Who can get listed on PFS
** [[PFS:Policy|Offer 3-tiers]] (vendors we proliferate, stuff we think is OK but not provide, any old plugin)

=== Plugin Vendors ===
* For blocklsting stuff it's important to work with them
* We need a place so that we can check for the most up to date version of a plugin
* Try to get them to pre-install the plugins for Firefox

=== Up Your Plug/Web Page Plugin Checker ===
* Never finished launching [PluginUpdating this web project]
* It's a problem that PluginUpdating is not automated - manual, gets out of date
* Mconnor suggests: Package it as a JS lib and make it a support service that shows up at What's New page or on the home page as a Google snippet

=== Evangelism ===
* Lots of it, TBD

=== Plugin Bundle ===
* Consider offering a plugin bundle of: QT, Java & Flash
* Whare are the legal implications for distributing something like this?
* What it means to Mozilla to do this?

Plugins:ImpovementPlan

2008-09-11T18:36:34Z

Bhashem: /* PFS */

During a discussion of folks involved with Firefox and PFS, we identified the following efforts that need to be coordinated in order to make the Firefox plugin experience better.

== Problem Summary ==
* [[Blocklisting|Plugin blocklisting]] is currently too jarring an experience. It's a hammer with little notification to the end user. Needs a redesign. Perhaps include in-page notification (a la malware) with the ability to continue, upgrade, block, etc...
* There is a long queue of plugins that want to be added to PFS. Currently, the user experience of encountering unknown content types is bad. No guidance is given to the user to help them figure out how to deal with the new formatted content they are encountering. (Perhaps we need 2 tiers of plugins with different levels of vouching).
* The plug-in install process on Vista is broken
* It's hard to keep the PFS service updated with the latest and greatest from the vendors (do we need to evangelize an API/service?)
* There aren't enough content types hosted (or pointed to) on AMO's [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:7 plugins page]
* Users sometimes have to install the same plugin twice, once for IE and then again when they install Firefox

== Multiple Efforts ==
To try to attack this problem will require coordination from various groups and with different sub-efforts.

=== Firefox ===
* Outline the use cases and how we'd like it to work
* Can we do an update ping for plugins?
* Try to get stuff done for 3.0.3 & 3.1

=== PFS ===
* Continue to offer a service URL with substitutions (e.g. give me Flash for Windows, redirect me to download)
* Put up a web page/service that accomodates
** Flash and Flash Alternatives
** Choose an MP3 handler
** given a mime type, what can I use
* Build a Listing/Admin/Submit UI
* Change to a relational database that maps mime types to plugins
* Coordinate with MozDev on [plugins.mozilla.org PluginDoc] as it is the most definitive plugin database for Firefox
* Move plugins separately from AMO (e.g. addon.mozilla.org/plugins)
* [[User:Polvi/PFS2|Some other ideas for PFS]]

=== Policy ===
* Blocklist criteria
** Decision Group: security, partnership side, steering committee overview, FIrefox team, metrics to understand deployed impact
* Who can get listed on PFS
** [[PFS:Policy|Offer 3-tiers]] (vendors we proliferate, stuff we think is OK but not provide, any old plugin)

=== Plugin Vendors ===
* For blocklsting stuff it's important to work with them
* We need a place so that we can check for the most up to date version of a plugin
* Try to get them to pre-install the plugins for Firefox

=== Up Your Plug/Web Page Plugin Checker ===
* Never finished launching [PluginUpdating this web project]
* It's a problem that PluginUpdating is not automated - manual, gets out of date
* Mconnor suggests: Package it as a JS lib and make it a support service that shows up at What's New page or on the home page as a Google snippet

=== Evangelism ===
* Lots of it, TBD

=== Plugin Bundle ===
* Consider offering a plugin bundle of: QT, Java & Flash
* Whare are the legal implications for distributing something like this?
* What it means to Mozilla to do this?

AMO:Meeting Notes

2008-09-10T17:49:54Z

Bhashem: /* Sep 10th */

[[Update:Remora|« Back to Update:Remora]]

== AMO Project Meeting Details ==
<pre>
Wednesdays, 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern
1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) or 1-650-215-1282 or 1-650-903-0800
Conferencing Center: x91
Conference ID: 261</pre>

== Common AMO Bugzilla Queries ==
* AMO 3.5 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Code Complete - Fri, 8/29, push: Thu, TBD'''
* AMO 4.0.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO4.0.1-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, Sep 15 (11:59pm), push: Thu, Sep 18'''
* AMO 4.0.2 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.2&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.2&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, TBD (11:59pm), push: Thu, TBD'''

__TOC__

== Sep 10th ==
* Any question/issues with 4.0.1? (Obj invalidation needs some attention in order to nail a Monday code freeze)
* Candidate 4.0.2 bugs/enhancements ready
** Should we start on discussions now? Yes, laura to take
* AMO and Fennec - [[Fennec:Addons|See notes]]
* Dev Tools (Fligtar)
** Upload & Submission modules are done and ready for testing
** Remaining - reskinning the developer index page and details page
** Will push Dev tools with 4.0.1 - in beta/parallel mode
** Need to add L10N gettext() capability, will come 1 week after 4.0.1
** ACTION: testing strategy for dev tools (Fligtar, Stephen, Morgamic)
* Bandwagon/Collections Update (Fligtar)
** We've merged the projects, Alex will work on the webdev stuff
** ACTION: Fligtar to file API bugs needed to support bandwagon/collections
** Boriss working on mocks for weblists and feeds and then more advanced add-on capabilities
* Community Topics
** Editor revitalization plan (Rey)
** Dealing with the Backlog
** Upcoming Add-on Get togethers
*** [http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/08/toronto-mozcamp-workshops/ Moz Camp] - Toronto, Sep 15-16
*** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/MAOW Mozilla Add-ons Workshop] - Paris, Sep 20
*** [http://somethin-else.org/index.php?post/2008/08/20/Mozilla-Camp-Europe Moz Camp Europe] - Barcelona, Oct 25-26
*** Me.dium wants us to help sponsor a browser-agnostic add-on conference (Dec 11). Rey is investigating further.
* We have a student volunteer for the College Outreach Program
** Smita Periyapatna from SJSU - Yeah!
* Shifting IRC AMO Discussions to #amo
* Morgamic will be setting up a weekly? amo-dev meeting to discuss technical AMO topics/bugs

== Sep 3rd ==
* 4.0.1 - Status (on schedule)
* Extension lists & partner wizard on AMO (and how it ties into bandwagon leadwork)
* Defining "optimize"

== Aug 27th ==
* Next Release (4.0.1) - See [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/RevisedDevSchedule.pdf Morgamic's 3-week cycle template]
** Dev Start: Tue, Sep 2
** Code Freeze: Mon, Sep 15
** QA-Regression-Bug Fix thru to Thu, Sep 18
** Push: Thu, Sep 18th evening
** Planning for next release, Fri, Sep 19
** Next Cycle: Mon, Sep 22
* Reviewed the [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/Q3Roadmap.pdf Q3 AMO Roadmap] to see where we are - we are about ~70% of our intended goals
* Next-next Release (3.5.1/4.0.2) Candidate features
** Find-as-you-type
** FAQ
** Sexy search engines landing page
** Editor leaderboard
* What are we going to do with the "Addons" component in Bugzilla? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
** Mark as INVALID and tell them to contact author
** Have improved integration of Bugzilla and AMO and show in dev panel
** Talk to Tomcat
[http://shutterhost.com/places/amo/images/amo_karoke_png.jpg image of the week]

== Aug 20th ==
* AMO 3.4.7 release status - Wil will tag and file the push bug
* Release cycle - Morgamic is proposing a 3-week cycle to prevent last minute crunches and focusing on the push rather than starting the next dev cycle. Proposal to follow.
* TRUSTe proposal in hand
* Next maintenance release will be 3.5.1 - schedule TBD until we figure out the 4.0.1 stuff.
* 4.0.1 only has 1 perf-related bug. Basil to send email to IT to gather perf ideas and add to release - Morgamic/Wil to figure out who gets assigned what. Determine 3.5.1 effort and if it should be in parallel.
* Firefox Major Update readiness - will run full throttle unless there are issues. IT will be testing a new CDN network to aid
* AMO 3.5
** Preview manager was finished a couple weeks ago and Stephen has been QA'ing it and catching a few bugs that have now been fixed. The status changer is mostly finished, and that will be followed by the upload/submission tool which already has the backend done. Target date is 8/29.
* Bandwagon
** We have mockups to go off of now thanks to Boriss, so Brian King and team will start working on the first milestone which is purely extension development. Milestone 2 will begin to require webdev assistance from both website and API standpoints. Again, if you're interested in this project, just let Fligtar know and he'll add you to the Grouphub where the updated detailed schedule and requirements will be posted.

[http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff218/patyguaxupe/te-amo.jpg Image of the week]

== Aug 13th ==
* Review release status
** What's the schedule for 3.5? Answer: Awaiting Fligtar's return tomorrow, same status as last week - ETA for completion of Dev Tools is next Fri 8/22, then we need time for QA + L10N work and a push during a Sept maintenance window.
* Discussed [http://www.conduit.com Conduit]. Considering a controlled, limited return of a few Conduit toolbars to AMO.
* Discussed [http://www.TRUSTe.org TRUSTe]. Discussing with TRUSTe about a tiered certification program for add-ons and add-on authors
* Thank you and Farewell to Cesar! (XPI Diff launched, yeah! MyLists needs to find an SVN home)
* Discuss [[Update:Remora/Discussions_Revamp|discussions revamp]] - timeline for this? (Not 3.4.7 since we're still planning).
* Can we do a broadcast email to nom queue folks? Yes, Cesar to help out with the query.

== Aug 6th ==
* Three parallel releases - 3.4.7 (features/bug fixes), 4.0.1 (performance) and 3.5 (dev tools)
* AMO 3.4.7
** Enable Vanilla discussions? ACTION: Laura will build wiki page and we'll dump Vanilla for a custom system.
** '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 4.0.1
** {VERY Tentative: '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''}
* AMO 3.5 Status
** Status Manager in progress, Upload Manager remains to be done. ETA is Fri, 8/22 for code complete, need time for QA, L10N. Public push date in Sep to give time for L10N. (Justin has vacation time)
* Push for this Thu, 8/7? (XPI Differ, other?)
* Starting work on "Bandwagon" (Add-on Sharing)

== July 30th ==
* No meeting due to Firefox Summit

== July 23rd ==
* AMO 3.4.6 - how are we doing?
** Enable Vanilla Discussions?
** Replace Vanilla by a simple forum we make ourselves? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Discuss AMO/Add-ons session @ [[Summit2008/Sessions/Schedule|Fx Summit]]
* Next week's meeting?

== July 16th ==
* AMO 3.4.6 status
* Justin to walk thru the "Add-on Sharing Proposal"
* No love from Urchin - still missing data from launch (escalated), last few days are at half of total. :-(
** Sounds like {{bug|444948}} -- the SJ AMO logs were moved to a different directory and they didn't update Urchin. -flig
* rdoherty, are you willing to take on {{bug|434540}}? (yes)
* 1 or 2 stability releases? (rdoherty)

== July 9th ==
* Readiness for AMO 3.4.5 release on Thu, 7/10 evening
* AMO 3.4.6 - '''Code Freeze - 7/21 (11:59pm), push: 7/24'''
* Offer extended to AMO Community Manager
* Metrics:
** Pageviews spike from Fx3 is waning...seeing 6M PV's now
** Ping & Download counts are trending downwards according to Moz dashboard - checking with IT for possible causes
* Performance branch testing & merging - need to determine which release it can be merged with.
* ACTION: Wil will tag and <s>justin to file an IT ticket</s> - {{bug|444378}}

== July 2nd ==
* Determine new AMO 3.4.5 dates - Candi-dates: '''Code Freeze: 7/7, Push: 7/10'''
** stephend on vacation from 7/7-7/11 (bug verifications graciously covered by juanb and ss - thanks guys!)
** Fx3 users are still suffering under {{bug|437174}} (error 261), and will continue so until a Firefox update is released. Should we add a message to the install button, linking to a wiki page (or so) explaining that they need to switch on third-party cookies if they receive this error? This would only show when logged in, for experimental add-ons. --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Urchin is back up (sorta), we have about 8M daily page views (about 2x what we had prior to Fx 3 launch)
* Draft Q3 goals for discussion:
** Launch three AMO dot releases / execute to [[Update:Roadmap|roadmap]] & triaged bug lists (with webdev)
** Rollout at least one end user engagement project
** Conduct Add-on Developer Survey
** Rollout revised AMO Developer Tools (with webdev)
** Move site metrics to Urchin 6 (with IT)
** Prototype a Pentaho-based AMO dashboard (with IT)
* Draft terms of service available for moz.com/moz.org, need to add AMO API and AMO user-specific conditional sections. Outside legal is working on it.
* Rotated the reco list - [http://blog.mozilla.com/basil/2008/07/01/featured-add-ons-rotation-for-july-2008/ blogged about it]
* ACTION: Basil to setup bug triage times to help with release/feature scheduling.

= Earlier Meeting Notes =
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Apr 2008-Jun 2008|Archive April 2008-June 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Nov 07-Mar 2008|Archive November 2007-March 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2007|Archive October-November 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2007|Archive August-September 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Dec-Jul 2007|Archive December 2006-July 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2006|Archive October-November 2006]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2006|Archive August-September 2006]]

AMO:Meeting Notes

2008-09-10T17:43:38Z

Bhashem: /* Sep 10th */

[[Update:Remora|« Back to Update:Remora]]

== AMO Project Meeting Details ==
<pre>
Wednesdays, 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern
1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) or 1-650-215-1282 or 1-650-903-0800
Conferencing Center: x91
Conference ID: 261</pre>

== Common AMO Bugzilla Queries ==
* AMO 3.5 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Code Complete - Fri, 8/29, push: Thu, TBD'''
* AMO 4.0.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO4.0.1-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, Sep 15 (11:59pm), push: Thu, Sep 18'''
* AMO 4.0.2 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.2&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.2&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, TBD (11:59pm), push: Thu, TBD'''

__TOC__

== Sep 10th ==
* Any question/issues with 4.0.1?
* Candidate 4.0.2 bugs/enhancements ready
** Should we start on discussions now?
* AMO and Fennec - [[Fennec:Addons|See notes]]
* Dev Tools (Fligtar)
** Upload & Submission modules are done and ready for testing
** Remaining - reskinning the developer index page and details page
** Will push Dev tools with 4.0.1 - in beta/parallel mode
** Need to add L10N gettext() capability, will come 1 week after 4.0.1
** Action: testing strategy for dev tools (Fligtar, Stephen, Morgamic)
* Bandwagon/Collections Update (Fligtar)
** We've merged the projects, Alex will work on the webdev stuff
** Action: Fligtar to file API bugs needed to support bandwagon/collections
** Boriss working on mocks for weblists and feeds and then more advanced add-on capabilities
* Community Topics
** Editor revitalization plan (Rey)
** Dealing with the Backlog
** Upcoming Add-on Get togethers
*** [http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/08/toronto-mozcamp-workshops/ Moz Camp] - Toronto, Sep 15-16
*** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/MAOW Mozilla Add-ons Workshop] - Paris, Sep 20
*** [http://somethin-else.org/index.php?post/2008/08/20/Mozilla-Camp-Europe Moz Camp Europe] - Barcelona, Oct 25-26
*** Me.dium wants us to help sponsor a browser-agnostic add-on confernece (Dec 11)
* We have a student volunteer for the College Outreach Program
** Smita Periyapatna from SJSU
* Shifting IRC AMO Discussions to #amo
* Morgamic will be setting up a weekly? amo-dev meeting to discuss technical AMO topics/bugs

== Sep 3rd ==
* 4.0.1 - Status (on schedule)
* Extension lists & partner wizard on AMO (and how it ties into bandwagon leadwork)
* Defining "optimize"

== Aug 27th ==
* Next Release (4.0.1) - See [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/RevisedDevSchedule.pdf Morgamic's 3-week cycle template]
** Dev Start: Tue, Sep 2
** Code Freeze: Mon, Sep 15
** QA-Regression-Bug Fix thru to Thu, Sep 18
** Push: Thu, Sep 18th evening
** Planning for next release, Fri, Sep 19
** Next Cycle: Mon, Sep 22
* Reviewed the [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/Q3Roadmap.pdf Q3 AMO Roadmap] to see where we are - we are about ~70% of our intended goals
* Next-next Release (3.5.1/4.0.2) Candidate features
** Find-as-you-type
** FAQ
** Sexy search engines landing page
** Editor leaderboard
* What are we going to do with the "Addons" component in Bugzilla? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
** Mark as INVALID and tell them to contact author
** Have improved integration of Bugzilla and AMO and show in dev panel
** Talk to Tomcat
[http://shutterhost.com/places/amo/images/amo_karoke_png.jpg image of the week]

== Aug 20th ==
* AMO 3.4.7 release status - Wil will tag and file the push bug
* Release cycle - Morgamic is proposing a 3-week cycle to prevent last minute crunches and focusing on the push rather than starting the next dev cycle. Proposal to follow.
* TRUSTe proposal in hand
* Next maintenance release will be 3.5.1 - schedule TBD until we figure out the 4.0.1 stuff.
* 4.0.1 only has 1 perf-related bug. Basil to send email to IT to gather perf ideas and add to release - Morgamic/Wil to figure out who gets assigned what. Determine 3.5.1 effort and if it should be in parallel.
* Firefox Major Update readiness - will run full throttle unless there are issues. IT will be testing a new CDN network to aid
* AMO 3.5
** Preview manager was finished a couple weeks ago and Stephen has been QA'ing it and catching a few bugs that have now been fixed. The status changer is mostly finished, and that will be followed by the upload/submission tool which already has the backend done. Target date is 8/29.
* Bandwagon
** We have mockups to go off of now thanks to Boriss, so Brian King and team will start working on the first milestone which is purely extension development. Milestone 2 will begin to require webdev assistance from both website and API standpoints. Again, if you're interested in this project, just let Fligtar know and he'll add you to the Grouphub where the updated detailed schedule and requirements will be posted.

[http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff218/patyguaxupe/te-amo.jpg Image of the week]

== Aug 13th ==
* Review release status
** What's the schedule for 3.5? Answer: Awaiting Fligtar's return tomorrow, same status as last week - ETA for completion of Dev Tools is next Fri 8/22, then we need time for QA + L10N work and a push during a Sept maintenance window.
* Discussed [http://www.conduit.com Conduit]. Considering a controlled, limited return of a few Conduit toolbars to AMO.
* Discussed [http://www.TRUSTe.org TRUSTe]. Discussing with TRUSTe about a tiered certification program for add-ons and add-on authors
* Thank you and Farewell to Cesar! (XPI Diff launched, yeah! MyLists needs to find an SVN home)
* Discuss [[Update:Remora/Discussions_Revamp|discussions revamp]] - timeline for this? (Not 3.4.7 since we're still planning).
* Can we do a broadcast email to nom queue folks? Yes, Cesar to help out with the query.

== Aug 6th ==
* Three parallel releases - 3.4.7 (features/bug fixes), 4.0.1 (performance) and 3.5 (dev tools)
* AMO 3.4.7
** Enable Vanilla discussions? ACTION: Laura will build wiki page and we'll dump Vanilla for a custom system.
** '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 4.0.1
** {VERY Tentative: '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''}
* AMO 3.5 Status
** Status Manager in progress, Upload Manager remains to be done. ETA is Fri, 8/22 for code complete, need time for QA, L10N. Public push date in Sep to give time for L10N. (Justin has vacation time)
* Push for this Thu, 8/7? (XPI Differ, other?)
* Starting work on "Bandwagon" (Add-on Sharing)

== July 30th ==
* No meeting due to Firefox Summit

== July 23rd ==
* AMO 3.4.6 - how are we doing?
** Enable Vanilla Discussions?
** Replace Vanilla by a simple forum we make ourselves? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Discuss AMO/Add-ons session @ [[Summit2008/Sessions/Schedule|Fx Summit]]
* Next week's meeting?

== July 16th ==
* AMO 3.4.6 status
* Justin to walk thru the "Add-on Sharing Proposal"
* No love from Urchin - still missing data from launch (escalated), last few days are at half of total. :-(
** Sounds like {{bug|444948}} -- the SJ AMO logs were moved to a different directory and they didn't update Urchin. -flig
* rdoherty, are you willing to take on {{bug|434540}}? (yes)
* 1 or 2 stability releases? (rdoherty)

== July 9th ==
* Readiness for AMO 3.4.5 release on Thu, 7/10 evening
* AMO 3.4.6 - '''Code Freeze - 7/21 (11:59pm), push: 7/24'''
* Offer extended to AMO Community Manager
* Metrics:
** Pageviews spike from Fx3 is waning...seeing 6M PV's now
** Ping & Download counts are trending downwards according to Moz dashboard - checking with IT for possible causes
* Performance branch testing & merging - need to determine which release it can be merged with.
* ACTION: Wil will tag and <s>justin to file an IT ticket</s> - {{bug|444378}}

== July 2nd ==
* Determine new AMO 3.4.5 dates - Candi-dates: '''Code Freeze: 7/7, Push: 7/10'''
** stephend on vacation from 7/7-7/11 (bug verifications graciously covered by juanb and ss - thanks guys!)
** Fx3 users are still suffering under {{bug|437174}} (error 261), and will continue so until a Firefox update is released. Should we add a message to the install button, linking to a wiki page (or so) explaining that they need to switch on third-party cookies if they receive this error? This would only show when logged in, for experimental add-ons. --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Urchin is back up (sorta), we have about 8M daily page views (about 2x what we had prior to Fx 3 launch)
* Draft Q3 goals for discussion:
** Launch three AMO dot releases / execute to [[Update:Roadmap|roadmap]] & triaged bug lists (with webdev)
** Rollout at least one end user engagement project
** Conduct Add-on Developer Survey
** Rollout revised AMO Developer Tools (with webdev)
** Move site metrics to Urchin 6 (with IT)
** Prototype a Pentaho-based AMO dashboard (with IT)
* Draft terms of service available for moz.com/moz.org, need to add AMO API and AMO user-specific conditional sections. Outside legal is working on it.
* Rotated the reco list - [http://blog.mozilla.com/basil/2008/07/01/featured-add-ons-rotation-for-july-2008/ blogged about it]
* ACTION: Basil to setup bug triage times to help with release/feature scheduling.

= Earlier Meeting Notes =
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Apr 2008-Jun 2008|Archive April 2008-June 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Nov 07-Mar 2008|Archive November 2007-March 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2007|Archive October-November 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2007|Archive August-September 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Dec-Jul 2007|Archive December 2006-July 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2006|Archive October-November 2006]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2006|Archive August-September 2006]]

AMO:Meeting Notes

2008-09-10T17:24:47Z

Bhashem: /* Sep 10th */

[[Update:Remora|« Back to Update:Remora]]

== AMO Project Meeting Details ==
<pre>
Wednesdays, 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern
1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) or 1-650-215-1282 or 1-650-903-0800
Conferencing Center: x91
Conference ID: 261</pre>

== Common AMO Bugzilla Queries ==
* AMO 3.5 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Code Complete - Fri, 8/29, push: Thu, TBD'''
* AMO 4.0.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO4.0.1-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, Sep 15 (11:59pm), push: Thu, Sep 18'''
* AMO 4.0.2 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.2&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.2&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, TBD (11:59pm), push: Thu, TBD'''

__TOC__

== Sep 10th ==
* Any question/issues with 4.0.1?
* Candidate 4.0.2 bugs/enhancements ready
** Should we start on discussions now?
* AMO and Fennec - [[Fennec:Addons|See notes]]
* Dev Tools (Fligtar)
** Upload & Submission modules are done and ready for testing
** Remaining - reskinning the developer index page and details page
** Will push Dev tools with 4.0.1 - in beta/parallel mode
** Need to add L10N gettext() capability, will come 1 week after 4.0.1
** Action: testing strategy for dev tools (Fligtar, Stephen, Morgamic)
* Bandwagon/Collections Update (Fligtar)
** We've merged the projects, Alex will work on the webdev stuff
** Action: Fligtar to file API bugs needed to support bandwagon/collections
** Boriss working on mocks for weblists and feeds and then more advanced add-on capabilities
* Community Topics
** Editor revitalization plan (Rey)
** Dealing with the Backlog
** Upcoming Add-on Get togethers
*** [http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/08/toronto-mozcamp-workshops/ Moz Camp] - Toronto, Sep 15-16
*** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/MAOW Mozilla Add-ons Workshop] - Paris, Sep 20
*** [http://somethin-else.org/index.php?post/2008/08/20/Mozilla-Camp-Europe Moz Camp Europe] - Barcelona, Oct 25-26
*** Me.dium wants us to help sponsor a browser-agnostic add-on confernece (Dec 11)
* We have a student volunteer for the College Outreach Program
** Smita Periyapatna from SJSU

== Sep 3rd ==
* 4.0.1 - Status (on schedule)
* Extension lists & partner wizard on AMO (and how it ties into bandwagon leadwork)
* Defining "optimize"

== Aug 27th ==
* Next Release (4.0.1) - See [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/RevisedDevSchedule.pdf Morgamic's 3-week cycle template]
** Dev Start: Tue, Sep 2
** Code Freeze: Mon, Sep 15
** QA-Regression-Bug Fix thru to Thu, Sep 18
** Push: Thu, Sep 18th evening
** Planning for next release, Fri, Sep 19
** Next Cycle: Mon, Sep 22
* Reviewed the [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/Q3Roadmap.pdf Q3 AMO Roadmap] to see where we are - we are about ~70% of our intended goals
* Next-next Release (3.5.1/4.0.2) Candidate features
** Find-as-you-type
** FAQ
** Sexy search engines landing page
** Editor leaderboard
* What are we going to do with the "Addons" component in Bugzilla? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
** Mark as INVALID and tell them to contact author
** Have improved integration of Bugzilla and AMO and show in dev panel
** Talk to Tomcat
[http://shutterhost.com/places/amo/images/amo_karoke_png.jpg image of the week]

== Aug 20th ==
* AMO 3.4.7 release status - Wil will tag and file the push bug
* Release cycle - Morgamic is proposing a 3-week cycle to prevent last minute crunches and focusing on the push rather than starting the next dev cycle. Proposal to follow.
* TRUSTe proposal in hand
* Next maintenance release will be 3.5.1 - schedule TBD until we figure out the 4.0.1 stuff.
* 4.0.1 only has 1 perf-related bug. Basil to send email to IT to gather perf ideas and add to release - Morgamic/Wil to figure out who gets assigned what. Determine 3.5.1 effort and if it should be in parallel.
* Firefox Major Update readiness - will run full throttle unless there are issues. IT will be testing a new CDN network to aid
* AMO 3.5
** Preview manager was finished a couple weeks ago and Stephen has been QA'ing it and catching a few bugs that have now been fixed. The status changer is mostly finished, and that will be followed by the upload/submission tool which already has the backend done. Target date is 8/29.
* Bandwagon
** We have mockups to go off of now thanks to Boriss, so Brian King and team will start working on the first milestone which is purely extension development. Milestone 2 will begin to require webdev assistance from both website and API standpoints. Again, if you're interested in this project, just let Fligtar know and he'll add you to the Grouphub where the updated detailed schedule and requirements will be posted.

[http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff218/patyguaxupe/te-amo.jpg Image of the week]

== Aug 13th ==
* Review release status
** What's the schedule for 3.5? Answer: Awaiting Fligtar's return tomorrow, same status as last week - ETA for completion of Dev Tools is next Fri 8/22, then we need time for QA + L10N work and a push during a Sept maintenance window.
* Discussed [http://www.conduit.com Conduit]. Considering a controlled, limited return of a few Conduit toolbars to AMO.
* Discussed [http://www.TRUSTe.org TRUSTe]. Discussing with TRUSTe about a tiered certification program for add-ons and add-on authors
* Thank you and Farewell to Cesar! (XPI Diff launched, yeah! MyLists needs to find an SVN home)
* Discuss [[Update:Remora/Discussions_Revamp|discussions revamp]] - timeline for this? (Not 3.4.7 since we're still planning).
* Can we do a broadcast email to nom queue folks? Yes, Cesar to help out with the query.

== Aug 6th ==
* Three parallel releases - 3.4.7 (features/bug fixes), 4.0.1 (performance) and 3.5 (dev tools)
* AMO 3.4.7
** Enable Vanilla discussions? ACTION: Laura will build wiki page and we'll dump Vanilla for a custom system.
** '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 4.0.1
** {VERY Tentative: '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''}
* AMO 3.5 Status
** Status Manager in progress, Upload Manager remains to be done. ETA is Fri, 8/22 for code complete, need time for QA, L10N. Public push date in Sep to give time for L10N. (Justin has vacation time)
* Push for this Thu, 8/7? (XPI Differ, other?)
* Starting work on "Bandwagon" (Add-on Sharing)

== July 30th ==
* No meeting due to Firefox Summit

== July 23rd ==
* AMO 3.4.6 - how are we doing?
** Enable Vanilla Discussions?
** Replace Vanilla by a simple forum we make ourselves? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Discuss AMO/Add-ons session @ [[Summit2008/Sessions/Schedule|Fx Summit]]
* Next week's meeting?

== July 16th ==
* AMO 3.4.6 status
* Justin to walk thru the "Add-on Sharing Proposal"
* No love from Urchin - still missing data from launch (escalated), last few days are at half of total. :-(
** Sounds like {{bug|444948}} -- the SJ AMO logs were moved to a different directory and they didn't update Urchin. -flig
* rdoherty, are you willing to take on {{bug|434540}}? (yes)
* 1 or 2 stability releases? (rdoherty)

== July 9th ==
* Readiness for AMO 3.4.5 release on Thu, 7/10 evening
* AMO 3.4.6 - '''Code Freeze - 7/21 (11:59pm), push: 7/24'''
* Offer extended to AMO Community Manager
* Metrics:
** Pageviews spike from Fx3 is waning...seeing 6M PV's now
** Ping & Download counts are trending downwards according to Moz dashboard - checking with IT for possible causes
* Performance branch testing & merging - need to determine which release it can be merged with.
* ACTION: Wil will tag and <s>justin to file an IT ticket</s> - {{bug|444378}}

== July 2nd ==
* Determine new AMO 3.4.5 dates - Candi-dates: '''Code Freeze: 7/7, Push: 7/10'''
** stephend on vacation from 7/7-7/11 (bug verifications graciously covered by juanb and ss - thanks guys!)
** Fx3 users are still suffering under {{bug|437174}} (error 261), and will continue so until a Firefox update is released. Should we add a message to the install button, linking to a wiki page (or so) explaining that they need to switch on third-party cookies if they receive this error? This would only show when logged in, for experimental add-ons. --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Urchin is back up (sorta), we have about 8M daily page views (about 2x what we had prior to Fx 3 launch)
* Draft Q3 goals for discussion:
** Launch three AMO dot releases / execute to [[Update:Roadmap|roadmap]] & triaged bug lists (with webdev)
** Rollout at least one end user engagement project
** Conduct Add-on Developer Survey
** Rollout revised AMO Developer Tools (with webdev)
** Move site metrics to Urchin 6 (with IT)
** Prototype a Pentaho-based AMO dashboard (with IT)
* Draft terms of service available for moz.com/moz.org, need to add AMO API and AMO user-specific conditional sections. Outside legal is working on it.
* Rotated the reco list - [http://blog.mozilla.com/basil/2008/07/01/featured-add-ons-rotation-for-july-2008/ blogged about it]
* ACTION: Basil to setup bug triage times to help with release/feature scheduling.

= Earlier Meeting Notes =
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Apr 2008-Jun 2008|Archive April 2008-June 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Nov 07-Mar 2008|Archive November 2007-March 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2007|Archive October-November 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2007|Archive August-September 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Dec-Jul 2007|Archive December 2006-July 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2006|Archive October-November 2006]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2006|Archive August-September 2006]]

AMO:Meeting Notes

2008-09-10T05:56:15Z

Bhashem: /* Sep 3rd */

[[Update:Remora|« Back to Update:Remora]]

== AMO Project Meeting Details ==
<pre>
Wednesdays, 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern
1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) or 1-650-215-1282 or 1-650-903-0800
Conferencing Center: x91
Conference ID: 261</pre>

== Common AMO Bugzilla Queries ==
* AMO 3.5 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Code Complete - Fri, 8/29, push: Thu, TBD'''
* AMO 4.0.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO4.0.1-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, Sep 15 (11:59pm), push: Thu, Sep 18'''
* AMO 4.0.2 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.2&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.2&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, TBD (11:59pm), push: Thu, TBD'''

__TOC__

== Sep 10th ==
* Any question/issues with 4.0.1?
* Candidate 4.0.2 bugs/enhancements ready
** Should we start on discussions now?
* AMO and Fennec - [[Fennec:Addons|See notes]]
* Dev Tools (Fligtar)
* Bandwagon/Collections Update (Basil-Fligtar)
* Community Topics
** Editor revitalization plan (Rey)
** Upcoming Add-on Get togethers
*** [http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/08/toronto-mozcamp-workshops/ Moz Camp] - Toronto, Sep 15-16
*** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/MAOW Mozilla Add-ons Workshop] - Paris, Sep 20
*** [http://somethin-else.org/index.php?post/2008/08/20/Mozilla-Camp-Europe Moz Camp Europe] - Barcelona, Oct 25-26

== Sep 3rd ==
* 4.0.1 - Status (on schedule)
* Extension lists & partner wizard on AMO (and how it ties into bandwagon leadwork)
* Defining "optimize"

== Aug 27th ==
* Next Release (4.0.1) - See [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/RevisedDevSchedule.pdf Morgamic's 3-week cycle template]
** Dev Start: Tue, Sep 2
** Code Freeze: Mon, Sep 15
** QA-Regression-Bug Fix thru to Thu, Sep 18
** Push: Thu, Sep 18th evening
** Planning for next release, Fri, Sep 19
** Next Cycle: Mon, Sep 22
* Reviewed the [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/Q3Roadmap.pdf Q3 AMO Roadmap] to see where we are - we are about ~70% of our intended goals
* Next-next Release (3.5.1/4.0.2) Candidate features
** Find-as-you-type
** FAQ
** Sexy search engines landing page
** Editor leaderboard
* What are we going to do with the "Addons" component in Bugzilla? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
** Mark as INVALID and tell them to contact author
** Have improved integration of Bugzilla and AMO and show in dev panel
** Talk to Tomcat
[http://shutterhost.com/places/amo/images/amo_karoke_png.jpg image of the week]

== Aug 20th ==
* AMO 3.4.7 release status - Wil will tag and file the push bug
* Release cycle - Morgamic is proposing a 3-week cycle to prevent last minute crunches and focusing on the push rather than starting the next dev cycle. Proposal to follow.
* TRUSTe proposal in hand
* Next maintenance release will be 3.5.1 - schedule TBD until we figure out the 4.0.1 stuff.
* 4.0.1 only has 1 perf-related bug. Basil to send email to IT to gather perf ideas and add to release - Morgamic/Wil to figure out who gets assigned what. Determine 3.5.1 effort and if it should be in parallel.
* Firefox Major Update readiness - will run full throttle unless there are issues. IT will be testing a new CDN network to aid
* AMO 3.5
** Preview manager was finished a couple weeks ago and Stephen has been QA'ing it and catching a few bugs that have now been fixed. The status changer is mostly finished, and that will be followed by the upload/submission tool which already has the backend done. Target date is 8/29.
* Bandwagon
** We have mockups to go off of now thanks to Boriss, so Brian King and team will start working on the first milestone which is purely extension development. Milestone 2 will begin to require webdev assistance from both website and API standpoints. Again, if you're interested in this project, just let Fligtar know and he'll add you to the Grouphub where the updated detailed schedule and requirements will be posted.

[http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff218/patyguaxupe/te-amo.jpg Image of the week]

== Aug 13th ==
* Review release status
** What's the schedule for 3.5? Answer: Awaiting Fligtar's return tomorrow, same status as last week - ETA for completion of Dev Tools is next Fri 8/22, then we need time for QA + L10N work and a push during a Sept maintenance window.
* Discussed [http://www.conduit.com Conduit]. Considering a controlled, limited return of a few Conduit toolbars to AMO.
* Discussed [http://www.TRUSTe.org TRUSTe]. Discussing with TRUSTe about a tiered certification program for add-ons and add-on authors
* Thank you and Farewell to Cesar! (XPI Diff launched, yeah! MyLists needs to find an SVN home)
* Discuss [[Update:Remora/Discussions_Revamp|discussions revamp]] - timeline for this? (Not 3.4.7 since we're still planning).
* Can we do a broadcast email to nom queue folks? Yes, Cesar to help out with the query.

== Aug 6th ==
* Three parallel releases - 3.4.7 (features/bug fixes), 4.0.1 (performance) and 3.5 (dev tools)
* AMO 3.4.7
** Enable Vanilla discussions? ACTION: Laura will build wiki page and we'll dump Vanilla for a custom system.
** '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 4.0.1
** {VERY Tentative: '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''}
* AMO 3.5 Status
** Status Manager in progress, Upload Manager remains to be done. ETA is Fri, 8/22 for code complete, need time for QA, L10N. Public push date in Sep to give time for L10N. (Justin has vacation time)
* Push for this Thu, 8/7? (XPI Differ, other?)
* Starting work on "Bandwagon" (Add-on Sharing)

== July 30th ==
* No meeting due to Firefox Summit

== July 23rd ==
* AMO 3.4.6 - how are we doing?
** Enable Vanilla Discussions?
** Replace Vanilla by a simple forum we make ourselves? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Discuss AMO/Add-ons session @ [[Summit2008/Sessions/Schedule|Fx Summit]]
* Next week's meeting?

== July 16th ==
* AMO 3.4.6 status
* Justin to walk thru the "Add-on Sharing Proposal"
* No love from Urchin - still missing data from launch (escalated), last few days are at half of total. :-(
** Sounds like {{bug|444948}} -- the SJ AMO logs were moved to a different directory and they didn't update Urchin. -flig
* rdoherty, are you willing to take on {{bug|434540}}? (yes)
* 1 or 2 stability releases? (rdoherty)

== July 9th ==
* Readiness for AMO 3.4.5 release on Thu, 7/10 evening
* AMO 3.4.6 - '''Code Freeze - 7/21 (11:59pm), push: 7/24'''
* Offer extended to AMO Community Manager
* Metrics:
** Pageviews spike from Fx3 is waning...seeing 6M PV's now
** Ping & Download counts are trending downwards according to Moz dashboard - checking with IT for possible causes
* Performance branch testing & merging - need to determine which release it can be merged with.
* ACTION: Wil will tag and <s>justin to file an IT ticket</s> - {{bug|444378}}

== July 2nd ==
* Determine new AMO 3.4.5 dates - Candi-dates: '''Code Freeze: 7/7, Push: 7/10'''
** stephend on vacation from 7/7-7/11 (bug verifications graciously covered by juanb and ss - thanks guys!)
** Fx3 users are still suffering under {{bug|437174}} (error 261), and will continue so until a Firefox update is released. Should we add a message to the install button, linking to a wiki page (or so) explaining that they need to switch on third-party cookies if they receive this error? This would only show when logged in, for experimental add-ons. --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Urchin is back up (sorta), we have about 8M daily page views (about 2x what we had prior to Fx 3 launch)
* Draft Q3 goals for discussion:
** Launch three AMO dot releases / execute to [[Update:Roadmap|roadmap]] & triaged bug lists (with webdev)
** Rollout at least one end user engagement project
** Conduct Add-on Developer Survey
** Rollout revised AMO Developer Tools (with webdev)
** Move site metrics to Urchin 6 (with IT)
** Prototype a Pentaho-based AMO dashboard (with IT)
* Draft terms of service available for moz.com/moz.org, need to add AMO API and AMO user-specific conditional sections. Outside legal is working on it.
* Rotated the reco list - [http://blog.mozilla.com/basil/2008/07/01/featured-add-ons-rotation-for-july-2008/ blogged about it]
* ACTION: Basil to setup bug triage times to help with release/feature scheduling.

= Earlier Meeting Notes =
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Apr 2008-Jun 2008|Archive April 2008-June 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Nov 07-Mar 2008|Archive November 2007-March 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2007|Archive October-November 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2007|Archive August-September 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Dec-Jul 2007|Archive December 2006-July 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2006|Archive October-November 2006]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2006|Archive August-September 2006]]

AMO:Meeting Notes

2008-09-10T05:45:07Z

Bhashem: /* Sep 3rd */

[[Update:Remora|« Back to Update:Remora]]

== AMO Project Meeting Details ==
<pre>
Wednesdays, 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern
1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) or 1-650-215-1282 or 1-650-903-0800
Conferencing Center: x91
Conference ID: 261</pre>

== Common AMO Bugzilla Queries ==
* AMO 3.5 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Code Complete - Fri, 8/29, push: Thu, TBD'''
* AMO 4.0.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO4.0.1-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, Sep 15 (11:59pm), push: Thu, Sep 18'''
* AMO 4.0.2 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.2&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.2&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, TBD (11:59pm), push: Thu, TBD'''

__TOC__

== Sep 3rd ==
* 4.0.1 - Status (on schedule)
* Extension lists & partner wizard on AMO (and how it ties into bandwagon leadwork)
* Defining "optimize"

== Aug 27th ==
* Next Release (4.0.1) - See [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/RevisedDevSchedule.pdf Morgamic's 3-week cycle template]
** Dev Start: Tue, Sep 2
** Code Freeze: Mon, Sep 15
** QA-Regression-Bug Fix thru to Thu, Sep 18
** Push: Thu, Sep 18th evening
** Planning for next release, Fri, Sep 19
** Next Cycle: Mon, Sep 22
* Reviewed the [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/Q3Roadmap.pdf Q3 AMO Roadmap] to see where we are - we are about ~70% of our intended goals
* Next-next Release (3.5.1/4.0.2) Candidate features
** Find-as-you-type
** FAQ
** Sexy search engines landing page
** Editor leaderboard
* What are we going to do with the "Addons" component in Bugzilla? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
** Mark as INVALID and tell them to contact author
** Have improved integration of Bugzilla and AMO and show in dev panel
** Talk to Tomcat
[http://shutterhost.com/places/amo/images/amo_karoke_png.jpg image of the week]

== Aug 20th ==
* AMO 3.4.7 release status - Wil will tag and file the push bug
* Release cycle - Morgamic is proposing a 3-week cycle to prevent last minute crunches and focusing on the push rather than starting the next dev cycle. Proposal to follow.
* TRUSTe proposal in hand
* Next maintenance release will be 3.5.1 - schedule TBD until we figure out the 4.0.1 stuff.
* 4.0.1 only has 1 perf-related bug. Basil to send email to IT to gather perf ideas and add to release - Morgamic/Wil to figure out who gets assigned what. Determine 3.5.1 effort and if it should be in parallel.
* Firefox Major Update readiness - will run full throttle unless there are issues. IT will be testing a new CDN network to aid
* AMO 3.5
** Preview manager was finished a couple weeks ago and Stephen has been QA'ing it and catching a few bugs that have now been fixed. The status changer is mostly finished, and that will be followed by the upload/submission tool which already has the backend done. Target date is 8/29.
* Bandwagon
** We have mockups to go off of now thanks to Boriss, so Brian King and team will start working on the first milestone which is purely extension development. Milestone 2 will begin to require webdev assistance from both website and API standpoints. Again, if you're interested in this project, just let Fligtar know and he'll add you to the Grouphub where the updated detailed schedule and requirements will be posted.

[http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff218/patyguaxupe/te-amo.jpg Image of the week]

== Aug 13th ==
* Review release status
** What's the schedule for 3.5? Answer: Awaiting Fligtar's return tomorrow, same status as last week - ETA for completion of Dev Tools is next Fri 8/22, then we need time for QA + L10N work and a push during a Sept maintenance window.
* Discussed [http://www.conduit.com Conduit]. Considering a controlled, limited return of a few Conduit toolbars to AMO.
* Discussed [http://www.TRUSTe.org TRUSTe]. Discussing with TRUSTe about a tiered certification program for add-ons and add-on authors
* Thank you and Farewell to Cesar! (XPI Diff launched, yeah! MyLists needs to find an SVN home)
* Discuss [[Update:Remora/Discussions_Revamp|discussions revamp]] - timeline for this? (Not 3.4.7 since we're still planning).
* Can we do a broadcast email to nom queue folks? Yes, Cesar to help out with the query.

== Aug 6th ==
* Three parallel releases - 3.4.7 (features/bug fixes), 4.0.1 (performance) and 3.5 (dev tools)
* AMO 3.4.7
** Enable Vanilla discussions? ACTION: Laura will build wiki page and we'll dump Vanilla for a custom system.
** '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 4.0.1
** {VERY Tentative: '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''}
* AMO 3.5 Status
** Status Manager in progress, Upload Manager remains to be done. ETA is Fri, 8/22 for code complete, need time for QA, L10N. Public push date in Sep to give time for L10N. (Justin has vacation time)
* Push for this Thu, 8/7? (XPI Differ, other?)
* Starting work on "Bandwagon" (Add-on Sharing)

== July 30th ==
* No meeting due to Firefox Summit

== July 23rd ==
* AMO 3.4.6 - how are we doing?
** Enable Vanilla Discussions?
** Replace Vanilla by a simple forum we make ourselves? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Discuss AMO/Add-ons session @ [[Summit2008/Sessions/Schedule|Fx Summit]]
* Next week's meeting?

== July 16th ==
* AMO 3.4.6 status
* Justin to walk thru the "Add-on Sharing Proposal"
* No love from Urchin - still missing data from launch (escalated), last few days are at half of total. :-(
** Sounds like {{bug|444948}} -- the SJ AMO logs were moved to a different directory and they didn't update Urchin. -flig
* rdoherty, are you willing to take on {{bug|434540}}? (yes)
* 1 or 2 stability releases? (rdoherty)

== July 9th ==
* Readiness for AMO 3.4.5 release on Thu, 7/10 evening
* AMO 3.4.6 - '''Code Freeze - 7/21 (11:59pm), push: 7/24'''
* Offer extended to AMO Community Manager
* Metrics:
** Pageviews spike from Fx3 is waning...seeing 6M PV's now
** Ping & Download counts are trending downwards according to Moz dashboard - checking with IT for possible causes
* Performance branch testing & merging - need to determine which release it can be merged with.
* ACTION: Wil will tag and <s>justin to file an IT ticket</s> - {{bug|444378}}

== July 2nd ==
* Determine new AMO 3.4.5 dates - Candi-dates: '''Code Freeze: 7/7, Push: 7/10'''
** stephend on vacation from 7/7-7/11 (bug verifications graciously covered by juanb and ss - thanks guys!)
** Fx3 users are still suffering under {{bug|437174}} (error 261), and will continue so until a Firefox update is released. Should we add a message to the install button, linking to a wiki page (or so) explaining that they need to switch on third-party cookies if they receive this error? This would only show when logged in, for experimental add-ons. --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Urchin is back up (sorta), we have about 8M daily page views (about 2x what we had prior to Fx 3 launch)
* Draft Q3 goals for discussion:
** Launch three AMO dot releases / execute to [[Update:Roadmap|roadmap]] & triaged bug lists (with webdev)
** Rollout at least one end user engagement project
** Conduct Add-on Developer Survey
** Rollout revised AMO Developer Tools (with webdev)
** Move site metrics to Urchin 6 (with IT)
** Prototype a Pentaho-based AMO dashboard (with IT)
* Draft terms of service available for moz.com/moz.org, need to add AMO API and AMO user-specific conditional sections. Outside legal is working on it.
* Rotated the reco list - [http://blog.mozilla.com/basil/2008/07/01/featured-add-ons-rotation-for-july-2008/ blogged about it]
* ACTION: Basil to setup bug triage times to help with release/feature scheduling.

= Earlier Meeting Notes =
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Apr 2008-Jun 2008|Archive April 2008-June 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Nov 07-Mar 2008|Archive November 2007-March 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2007|Archive October-November 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2007|Archive August-September 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Dec-Jul 2007|Archive December 2006-July 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2006|Archive October-November 2006]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2006|Archive August-September 2006]]

Fennec:Addons

2008-09-09T17:51:40Z

Bhashem:

This is a scratch pad of ideas for Fennec, Add-ons and AMO.

* Fennec has a unique GUID
* Existing Firefox add-ons will not run "out of the box" on Fennec and will require some modification - at minimum, a change to the install.rdf but likely more. [http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/09/extensions-for-fennec/ Per Mfinkle post].
* Mocks of [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/UI/Designs/TouchScreen/workingUI/add-ons_concepts Fennec Add-on Manager]

* AMO Support
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=453517 AMO bug for Fennec support]
*** Include GUID
*** Need min, max version ranges
*** Need categories for the add-ons
*** Need to decide on "recommended add-ons" (at least the current site design requires this)
*** Need a small and large Fennec icon
** Ensure that Fennec add-ons can be uploaded to AMO
** Ensure that users can download Fennec add-ons to desktop using Firefox
** Verify that Fennec add-ons are visible thru the API
** Test "Get Addons" and install functionality from Fennec

** Primary support will be from the AMO Services API
*** short-term
**** populate add-ons for fennec in AMO database so results get sent back
**** add handheld devices to the platform list so API returns results
*** long-term
**** add api 1.2 URL schema so we can pass OS_VERSION - is there support in AMO database for OS_VERSION?

** Is "Fennec" the name that we should use or "Mobile Firefox" or other name, e.g. we do not include "Minefield" currently. Resolution: "Fennec" for now, may change it later.

* When we decide to support Fennec browsing access to AMO
** what main features need to be readily available to users
** Layout, two ways:
*** add new pages/modules altogether
**** UX come up with wireframe
**** front-end engineer implement
*** modify CSS tailored for mobile client
*** Device detection not necessary, we can use [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=236427 css media type = handheld]
**** front-end engineer
*** Come up with wireframe for new layout and determine whether it requires new pages or can be done through CSS
*** Auto-detecting the platform/UA string for "Add to Fennec" buttons?

* Evangelism & Education
** We should make a "wanted add-ons" list to help spur development/porting
** Need a MDC page with documentation on building Fennec add-ons

Fennec:Addons

2008-09-09T17:08:39Z

Bhashem:

This is a scratch pad of ideas for Fennec, Add-ons and AMO.

* Fennec has a unique GUID
* Existing Firefox add-ons will not run "out of the box" on Fennec and will require some modification - at minimum, a change to the install.rdf but likely more. [http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/09/extensions-for-fennec/ Per Mfinkle post].
* Mocks of [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/UI/Designs/TouchScreen/workingUI/add-ons_concepts Fennec Add-on Manager]

* AMO Support
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=453517 AMO bug for Fennec support]
*** Include GUID
*** Need min, max version ranges
*** Need categories for the add-ons
*** Need to decide on "recommended add-ons" (at least the current site design requires this)
*** Is there a Fennec icon that we should use?
** Primary support will be from the AMO Services API

** Is "Fennec" the name that we should use or "Mobile Firefox" or other name, e.g. we do not include "Minefield" currently. Resolution: "Fennec" for now, may change it later.

* When we decide to support Fennec access to AMO
** Layout, two ways:
*** add new pages/modules altogether
**** UX come up with wireframe
**** front-end engineer implement
*** modify CSS tailored for mobile client
*** Device detection not necessary, we can use [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=236427 css media type = handheld]
**** front-end engineer
*** TODO: come up with wireframe for new layout and determine whether it requires new pages or can be done through CSS
*** Auto-detecting the user agent string for "Add to Fennec" buttons?

* Evangelism & Education
** We should make a "wanted add-ons" list to help spur development/porting
** Need a MDC page with documentation on building Fennec add-ons

Fennec:Addons

2008-09-06T01:10:27Z

Bhashem:

This is a scratch pad of ideas for Fennec, Add-on and AMO.

* AMO Support
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=453517 AMO bug for Fennec support]
** Need min, max version ranges
** Need categories for the add-ons
** Need to decide on "recommended add-ons" (at least the current site design requires this)
** Is "Fennec" the name that we should use or "Mobile Firefox" or other name, e.g. we do not include "Minefield" currently.
** Is there a Fennec icon that we should use?
** Layout, two ways:
*** add new pages/modules altogether
**** UX come up with wireframe
**** front-end engineer implement
*** modify CSS tailored for mobile client
*** Device detection not necessary, we can use [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=236427 css media type = handheld]
**** front-end engineer
*** TODO: come up with wireframe for new layout and determine whether it requires new pages or can be done through CSS
*** Auto-detecting the user agent string for "Add to Fennec" buttons?

* Fennec has a unique GUID
* Existing Firefox add-ons will not run "out of the box" on Fennec and will require some modification - at minimum, a change to the install.rdf but likely more. [http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/09/extensions-for-fennec/ Per Mfinkle post].

* Evangelism & Education
** We should make a "wanted add-ons" list to help spur development/porting
** Need a MDC page with documentation on building Fennec add-ons

Fennec:Addons

2008-09-06T01:10:03Z

Bhashem:

This is a scratch pad of ideas for Fennec, Add-on and AMO.

* AMO Support
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=453517 AMO bug for Fennec support]
** Need min, max version ranges
** Need categories for the add-ons
** Need to decide on "recommended add-ons" (at least the current site design requires this)
** Is "Fennec" the name that we should use or "Mobile Firefox" or other name, e.g. we do not include "Minefield" curently.
** Is there a Fennec icon that we should use?
** Layout, two ways:
*** add new pages/modules altogether
**** UX come up with wireframe
**** front-end engineer implement
*** modify CSS tailored for mobile client
*** Device detection not necessary, we can use [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=236427 css media type = handheld]
**** front-end engineer
*** TODO: come up with wireframe for new layout and determine whether it requires new pages or can be done through CSS
*** Auto-detecting the user agent string for "Add to Fennec" buttons?

* Fennec has a unique GUID
* Existing Firefox add-ons will not run "out of the box" on Fennec and will require some modification - at minimum, a change to the install.rdf but likely more. [http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/09/extensions-for-fennec/ Per Mfinkle post].

* Evangelism & Education
** We should make a "wanted add-ons" list to help spur development/porting
** Need a MDC page with documentation on building Fennec add-ons

Fennec:Addons

2008-09-03T21:21:26Z

Bhashem: New page: This is a scratch pad of ideas for Fennec, Add-on and AMO. * AMO Support ** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=453517 AMO bug for Fennec support] ** Need min, max version range...

This is a scratch pad of ideas for Fennec, Add-on and AMO.

* AMO Support
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=453517 AMO bug for Fennec support]
** Need min, max version ranges
** Need categories for the add-ons
** Need to decide on "recommended add-ons" (at least the current site design requires this)
** Layout, two ways:
*** add new pages/modules altogether
**** UX come up with wireframe
**** front-end engineer implement
*** modify CSS tailored for mobile client
*** Device detection not necessary, we can use [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=236427 css media type = handheld]
**** front-end engineer
*** TODO: come up with wireframe for new layout and determine whether it requires new pages or can be done through CSS
*** Auto-detecting the user agent string for "Add to Fennec" buttons?

* Fennec has a unique GUID
* Existing Firefox add-ons will not run "out of the box" on Fennec and will require some modification - at minimum, a change to the install.rdf but likely more. [http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/09/extensions-for-fennec/ Per Mfinkle post].

* Evangelism & Education
** We should make a "wanted add-ons" list to help spur development/porting
** Need a MDC page with documentation on building Fennec add-ons

User:Bhashem/AddonClasses

2008-09-03T20:59:37Z

Bhashem: /* Add-on Attributes */

__NOTOC__
This is a braindump about the different classes of add-ons out there and the types of attributes that they have. Trying to get all this info down in one location so that we can figure out how to redesign the AMO [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5244 add-on summary box]/details pages to include relevant info (esp. the commercial/license status).

= Add-on Attributes =
* End User License Agreement (EULA) {text}
* Privacy Policy {text}
* Source Code License {text} (or pick from list) / type can be OSI-compatible or commercial
* Source Code viewable online? {bool}
* Digitally signed by author? {bool}

== Editorial Attributes ==
* Recommended Status? {bool}
* Trusted? {bool}
* Are they TRUSTe (or other) Certified? {bool}

== Functional Attributes ==

* Is it site-specific? {bool}
* Requires external software? {bool}
* Requires online service? {bool}
* Does it include binary add-ons? {bool}

== Release Status Attributes ==
* Public? {bool}
* Experimental? {bool}
* Marked as Pre-release? {bool}

= License Style =
* Free to Use
* Advertising Supported
* Pay once and use often
* Rent for period of time
* Shareware / Donationware (can pay at some point)
* Demo/Trialware (try some functionality, stops working at some point or reduced functionality after n usages or after time period X has passed)
----
Potentially usable as a collector of add-on meta data : [http://www.asp-shareware.org/pad/ Portable Application Description (PAD) format]
----
Download.com uses fields like:
* License: "Free", "Free to try; $29.95 to buy", "Free; paid upgrade available"
* Limitations: "10-upload trial", "2 second delay", "Save-disabled, some functions disabled", "Some features disabled", "Protection module disabled"
----
Tucows.com uses fields like:
* "Freeware", "Shareware & Shareware, $19.95 to purchase" , "Demo"
* Filters: Shareware | Freeware | Commercial Demos | OpenSource Licenses | Other Licenses | All Title
* Trial Period: XX Days

AMO:Meeting Notes

2008-09-03T19:25:04Z

Bhashem: /* Common AMO Bugzilla Queries */

[[Update:Remora|« Back to Update:Remora]]

== AMO Project Meeting Details ==
<pre>
Wednesdays, 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern
1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) or 1-650-215-1282 or 1-650-903-0800
Conferencing Center: x91
Conference ID: 261</pre>

== Common AMO Bugzilla Queries ==
* AMO 3.5 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Code Complete - Fri, 8/29, push: Thu, TBD'''
* AMO 4.0.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO4.0.1-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, Sep 15 (11:59pm), push: Thu, Sep 18'''
* AMO 4.0.2 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.2&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.2&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.2&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, TBD (11:59pm), push: Thu, TBD'''

__TOC__

== Sep 3rd ==
* 4.0.1 - Status
* Extension lists & partner wizard on AMO (and how it ties into bandwagon leadwork)
* Defining "optimize"

== Aug 27th ==
* Next Release (4.0.1) - See [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/RevisedDevSchedule.pdf Morgamic's 3-week cycle template]
** Dev Start: Tue, Sep 2
** Code Freeze: Mon, Sep 15
** QA-Regression-Bug Fix thru to Thu, Sep 18
** Push: Thu, Sep 18th evening
** Planning for next release, Fri, Sep 19
** Next Cycle: Mon, Sep 22
* Reviewed the [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/Q3Roadmap.pdf Q3 AMO Roadmap] to see where we are - we are about ~70% of our intended goals
* Next-next Release (3.5.1/4.0.2) Candidate features
** Find-as-you-type
** FAQ
** Sexy search engines landing page
** Editor leaderboard
* What are we going to do with the "Addons" component in Bugzilla? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
** Mark as INVALID and tell them to contact author
** Have improved integration of Bugzilla and AMO and show in dev panel
** Talk to Tomcat
[http://shutterhost.com/places/amo/images/amo_karoke_png.jpg image of the week]

== Aug 20th ==
* AMO 3.4.7 release status - Wil will tag and file the push bug
* Release cycle - Morgamic is proposing a 3-week cycle to prevent last minute crunches and focusing on the push rather than starting the next dev cycle. Proposal to follow.
* TRUSTe proposal in hand
* Next maintenance release will be 3.5.1 - schedule TBD until we figure out the 4.0.1 stuff.
* 4.0.1 only has 1 perf-related bug. Basil to send email to IT to gather perf ideas and add to release - Morgamic/Wil to figure out who gets assigned what. Determine 3.5.1 effort and if it should be in parallel.
* Firefox Major Update readiness - will run full throttle unless there are issues. IT will be testing a new CDN network to aid
* AMO 3.5
** Preview manager was finished a couple weeks ago and Stephen has been QA'ing it and catching a few bugs that have now been fixed. The status changer is mostly finished, and that will be followed by the upload/submission tool which already has the backend done. Target date is 8/29.
* Bandwagon
** We have mockups to go off of now thanks to Boriss, so Brian King and team will start working on the first milestone which is purely extension development. Milestone 2 will begin to require webdev assistance from both website and API standpoints. Again, if you're interested in this project, just let Fligtar know and he'll add you to the Grouphub where the updated detailed schedule and requirements will be posted.

[http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff218/patyguaxupe/te-amo.jpg Image of the week]

== Aug 13th ==
* Review release status
** What's the schedule for 3.5? Answer: Awaiting Fligtar's return tomorrow, same status as last week - ETA for completion of Dev Tools is next Fri 8/22, then we need time for QA + L10N work and a push during a Sept maintenance window.
* Discussed [http://www.conduit.com Conduit]. Considering a controlled, limited return of a few Conduit toolbars to AMO.
* Discussed [http://www.TRUSTe.org TRUSTe]. Discussing with TRUSTe about a tiered certification program for add-ons and add-on authors
* Thank you and Farewell to Cesar! (XPI Diff launched, yeah! MyLists needs to find an SVN home)
* Discuss [[Update:Remora/Discussions_Revamp|discussions revamp]] - timeline for this? (Not 3.4.7 since we're still planning).
* Can we do a broadcast email to nom queue folks? Yes, Cesar to help out with the query.

== Aug 6th ==
* Three parallel releases - 3.4.7 (features/bug fixes), 4.0.1 (performance) and 3.5 (dev tools)
* AMO 3.4.7
** Enable Vanilla discussions? ACTION: Laura will build wiki page and we'll dump Vanilla for a custom system.
** '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 4.0.1
** {VERY Tentative: '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''}
* AMO 3.5 Status
** Status Manager in progress, Upload Manager remains to be done. ETA is Fri, 8/22 for code complete, need time for QA, L10N. Public push date in Sep to give time for L10N. (Justin has vacation time)
* Push for this Thu, 8/7? (XPI Differ, other?)
* Starting work on "Bandwagon" (Add-on Sharing)

== July 30th ==
* No meeting due to Firefox Summit

== July 23rd ==
* AMO 3.4.6 - how are we doing?
** Enable Vanilla Discussions?
** Replace Vanilla by a simple forum we make ourselves? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Discuss AMO/Add-ons session @ [[Summit2008/Sessions/Schedule|Fx Summit]]
* Next week's meeting?

== July 16th ==
* AMO 3.4.6 status
* Justin to walk thru the "Add-on Sharing Proposal"
* No love from Urchin - still missing data from launch (escalated), last few days are at half of total. :-(
** Sounds like {{bug|444948}} -- the SJ AMO logs were moved to a different directory and they didn't update Urchin. -flig
* rdoherty, are you willing to take on {{bug|434540}}? (yes)
* 1 or 2 stability releases? (rdoherty)

== July 9th ==
* Readiness for AMO 3.4.5 release on Thu, 7/10 evening
* AMO 3.4.6 - '''Code Freeze - 7/21 (11:59pm), push: 7/24'''
* Offer extended to AMO Community Manager
* Metrics:
** Pageviews spike from Fx3 is waning...seeing 6M PV's now
** Ping & Download counts are trending downwards according to Moz dashboard - checking with IT for possible causes
* Performance branch testing & merging - need to determine which release it can be merged with.
* ACTION: Wil will tag and <s>justin to file an IT ticket</s> - {{bug|444378}}

== July 2nd ==
* Determine new AMO 3.4.5 dates - Candi-dates: '''Code Freeze: 7/7, Push: 7/10'''
** stephend on vacation from 7/7-7/11 (bug verifications graciously covered by juanb and ss - thanks guys!)
** Fx3 users are still suffering under {{bug|437174}} (error 261), and will continue so until a Firefox update is released. Should we add a message to the install button, linking to a wiki page (or so) explaining that they need to switch on third-party cookies if they receive this error? This would only show when logged in, for experimental add-ons. --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Urchin is back up (sorta), we have about 8M daily page views (about 2x what we had prior to Fx 3 launch)
* Draft Q3 goals for discussion:
** Launch three AMO dot releases / execute to [[Update:Roadmap|roadmap]] & triaged bug lists (with webdev)
** Rollout at least one end user engagement project
** Conduct Add-on Developer Survey
** Rollout revised AMO Developer Tools (with webdev)
** Move site metrics to Urchin 6 (with IT)
** Prototype a Pentaho-based AMO dashboard (with IT)
* Draft terms of service available for moz.com/moz.org, need to add AMO API and AMO user-specific conditional sections. Outside legal is working on it.
* Rotated the reco list - [http://blog.mozilla.com/basil/2008/07/01/featured-add-ons-rotation-for-july-2008/ blogged about it]
* ACTION: Basil to setup bug triage times to help with release/feature scheduling.

= Earlier Meeting Notes =
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Apr 2008-Jun 2008|Archive April 2008-June 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Nov 07-Mar 2008|Archive November 2007-March 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2007|Archive October-November 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2007|Archive August-September 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Dec-Jul 2007|Archive December 2006-July 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2006|Archive October-November 2006]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2006|Archive August-September 2006]]

AMO:Meeting Notes

2008-09-02T23:59:57Z

Bhashem: /* Aug 27th */

[[Update:Remora|« Back to Update:Remora]]

== AMO Project Meeting Details ==
<pre>
Wednesdays, 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern
1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) or 1-650-215-1282 or 1-650-903-0800
Conferencing Center: x91
Conference ID: 261</pre>

== Common AMO Bugzilla Queries ==
* AMO 3.5 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Code Complete - Fri, 8/29, push: Thu, TBD'''
* AMO 4.0.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO4.0.1-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, Sep 15 (11:59pm), push: Thu, Sep 18'''
* AMO 3.5.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5.1&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, TBD (11:59pm), push: Thu, TBD'''

__TOC__

== Sep 3rd ==
* 4.0.1 - Status

== Aug 27th ==
* Next Release (4.0.1) - See [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/RevisedDevSchedule.pdf Morgamic's 3-week cycle template]
** Dev Start: Tue, Sep 2
** Code Freeze: Mon, Sep 15
** QA-Regression-Bug Fix thru to Thu, Sep 18
** Push: Thu, Sep 18th evening
** Planning for next release, Fri, Sep 19
** Next Cycle: Mon, Sep 22
* Reviewed the [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/Q3Roadmap.pdf Q3 AMO Roadmap] to see where we are - we are about ~70% of our intended goals
* Next-next Release (3.5.1/4.0.2) Candidate features
** Find-as-you-type
** FAQ
** Sexy search engines landing page
** Editor leaderboard
* What are we going to do with the "Addons" component in Bugzilla? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
** Mark as INVALID and tell them to contact author
** Have improved integration of Bugzilla and AMO and show in dev panel
** Talk to Tomcat
[http://shutterhost.com/places/amo/images/amo_karoke_png.jpg image of the week]

== Aug 20th ==
* AMO 3.4.7 release status - Wil will tag and file the push bug
* Release cycle - Morgamic is proposing a 3-week cycle to prevent last minute crunches and focusing on the push rather than starting the next dev cycle. Proposal to follow.
* TRUSTe proposal in hand
* Next maintenance release will be 3.5.1 - schedule TBD until we figure out the 4.0.1 stuff.
* 4.0.1 only has 1 perf-related bug. Basil to send email to IT to gather perf ideas and add to release - Morgamic/Wil to figure out who gets assigned what. Determine 3.5.1 effort and if it should be in parallel.
* Firefox Major Update readiness - will run full throttle unless there are issues. IT will be testing a new CDN network to aid
* AMO 3.5
** Preview manager was finished a couple weeks ago and Stephen has been QA'ing it and catching a few bugs that have now been fixed. The status changer is mostly finished, and that will be followed by the upload/submission tool which already has the backend done. Target date is 8/29.
* Bandwagon
** We have mockups to go off of now thanks to Boriss, so Brian King and team will start working on the first milestone which is purely extension development. Milestone 2 will begin to require webdev assistance from both website and API standpoints. Again, if you're interested in this project, just let Fligtar know and he'll add you to the Grouphub where the updated detailed schedule and requirements will be posted.

[http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff218/patyguaxupe/te-amo.jpg Image of the week]

== Aug 13th ==
* Review release status
** What's the schedule for 3.5? Answer: Awaiting Fligtar's return tomorrow, same status as last week - ETA for completion of Dev Tools is next Fri 8/22, then we need time for QA + L10N work and a push during a Sept maintenance window.
* Discussed [http://www.conduit.com Conduit]. Considering a controlled, limited return of a few Conduit toolbars to AMO.
* Discussed [http://www.TRUSTe.org TRUSTe]. Discussing with TRUSTe about a tiered certification program for add-ons and add-on authors
* Thank you and Farewell to Cesar! (XPI Diff launched, yeah! MyLists needs to find an SVN home)
* Discuss [[Update:Remora/Discussions_Revamp|discussions revamp]] - timeline for this? (Not 3.4.7 since we're still planning).
* Can we do a broadcast email to nom queue folks? Yes, Cesar to help out with the query.

== Aug 6th ==
* Three parallel releases - 3.4.7 (features/bug fixes), 4.0.1 (performance) and 3.5 (dev tools)
* AMO 3.4.7
** Enable Vanilla discussions? ACTION: Laura will build wiki page and we'll dump Vanilla for a custom system.
** '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 4.0.1
** {VERY Tentative: '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''}
* AMO 3.5 Status
** Status Manager in progress, Upload Manager remains to be done. ETA is Fri, 8/22 for code complete, need time for QA, L10N. Public push date in Sep to give time for L10N. (Justin has vacation time)
* Push for this Thu, 8/7? (XPI Differ, other?)
* Starting work on "Bandwagon" (Add-on Sharing)

== July 30th ==
* No meeting due to Firefox Summit

== July 23rd ==
* AMO 3.4.6 - how are we doing?
** Enable Vanilla Discussions?
** Replace Vanilla by a simple forum we make ourselves? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Discuss AMO/Add-ons session @ [[Summit2008/Sessions/Schedule|Fx Summit]]
* Next week's meeting?

== July 16th ==
* AMO 3.4.6 status
* Justin to walk thru the "Add-on Sharing Proposal"
* No love from Urchin - still missing data from launch (escalated), last few days are at half of total. :-(
** Sounds like {{bug|444948}} -- the SJ AMO logs were moved to a different directory and they didn't update Urchin. -flig
* rdoherty, are you willing to take on {{bug|434540}}? (yes)
* 1 or 2 stability releases? (rdoherty)

== July 9th ==
* Readiness for AMO 3.4.5 release on Thu, 7/10 evening
* AMO 3.4.6 - '''Code Freeze - 7/21 (11:59pm), push: 7/24'''
* Offer extended to AMO Community Manager
* Metrics:
** Pageviews spike from Fx3 is waning...seeing 6M PV's now
** Ping & Download counts are trending downwards according to Moz dashboard - checking with IT for possible causes
* Performance branch testing & merging - need to determine which release it can be merged with.
* ACTION: Wil will tag and <s>justin to file an IT ticket</s> - {{bug|444378}}

== July 2nd ==
* Determine new AMO 3.4.5 dates - Candi-dates: '''Code Freeze: 7/7, Push: 7/10'''
** stephend on vacation from 7/7-7/11 (bug verifications graciously covered by juanb and ss - thanks guys!)
** Fx3 users are still suffering under {{bug|437174}} (error 261), and will continue so until a Firefox update is released. Should we add a message to the install button, linking to a wiki page (or so) explaining that they need to switch on third-party cookies if they receive this error? This would only show when logged in, for experimental add-ons. --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Urchin is back up (sorta), we have about 8M daily page views (about 2x what we had prior to Fx 3 launch)
* Draft Q3 goals for discussion:
** Launch three AMO dot releases / execute to [[Update:Roadmap|roadmap]] & triaged bug lists (with webdev)
** Rollout at least one end user engagement project
** Conduct Add-on Developer Survey
** Rollout revised AMO Developer Tools (with webdev)
** Move site metrics to Urchin 6 (with IT)
** Prototype a Pentaho-based AMO dashboard (with IT)
* Draft terms of service available for moz.com/moz.org, need to add AMO API and AMO user-specific conditional sections. Outside legal is working on it.
* Rotated the reco list - [http://blog.mozilla.com/basil/2008/07/01/featured-add-ons-rotation-for-july-2008/ blogged about it]
* ACTION: Basil to setup bug triage times to help with release/feature scheduling.

= Earlier Meeting Notes =
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Apr 2008-Jun 2008|Archive April 2008-June 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Nov 07-Mar 2008|Archive November 2007-March 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2007|Archive October-November 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2007|Archive August-September 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Dec-Jul 2007|Archive December 2006-July 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2006|Archive October-November 2006]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2006|Archive August-September 2006]]

AMO:Meeting Notes

2008-08-28T21:13:52Z

Bhashem: /* Aug 27th */

[[Update:Remora|« Back to Update:Remora]]

== AMO Project Meeting Details ==
<pre>
Wednesdays, 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern
1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) or 1-650-215-1282 or 1-650-903-0800
Conferencing Center: x91
Conference ID: 261</pre>

== Common AMO Bugzilla Queries ==
* AMO 3.5 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Code Complete - Fri, 8/29, push: Thu, TBD'''
* AMO 4.0.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO4.0.1-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, Sep 15 (11:59pm), push: Thu, Sep 18'''
* AMO 3.5.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5.1&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, TBD (11:59pm), push: Thu, TBD'''

__TOC__

== Aug 27th ==
* Next Release (4.0.1) - See [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/RevisedDevSchedule.pdf Morgamic's 3-week cycle template]
** Dev Start: Tue, Sep 2
** Code Freeze: Mon, Sep 15
** QA-Regression-Bug Fix thru to Thu, Sep 18
** Push: Thu, Sep 18th evening
** Planning for next release, Fri, Sep 19
** Next Cycle: Mon, Sep 22
* Reviewed the [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/Q3Roadmap.pdf Q3 AMO Roadmap] to see where we are - we are about ~70% of our intended goals
* Next-next Release (3.5.1/4.0.2) Candidate features
** Find-as-you-type
** FAQ
** Sexy search engines landing page
** Editor leaderboard
* What are we going to do with the "Addons" component in Bugzilla? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
** Mark as INVALID and tell them to contact author
** Have improved integration of Bugzilla and AMO and show in dev panel
** Talk to Tomcat
[http://shutterhost.com/places/amo/images/amo_karoke_png.jpg image of the week]

== Aug 20th ==
* AMO 3.4.7 release status - Wil will tag and file the push bug
* Release cycle - Morgamic is proposing a 3-week cycle to prevent last minute crunches and focusing on the push rather than starting the next dev cycle. Proposal to follow.
* TRUSTe proposal in hand
* Next maintenance release will be 3.5.1 - schedule TBD until we figure out the 4.0.1 stuff.
* 4.0.1 only has 1 perf-related bug. Basil to send email to IT to gather perf ideas and add to release - Morgamic/Wil to figure out who gets assigned what. Determine 3.5.1 effort and if it should be in parallel.
* Firefox Major Update readiness - will run full throttle unless there are issues. IT will be testing a new CDN network to aid
* AMO 3.5
** Preview manager was finished a couple weeks ago and Stephen has been QA'ing it and catching a few bugs that have now been fixed. The status changer is mostly finished, and that will be followed by the upload/submission tool which already has the backend done. Target date is 8/29.
* Bandwagon
** We have mockups to go off of now thanks to Boriss, so Brian King and team will start working on the first milestone which is purely extension development. Milestone 2 will begin to require webdev assistance from both website and API standpoints. Again, if you're interested in this project, just let Fligtar know and he'll add you to the Grouphub where the updated detailed schedule and requirements will be posted.

[http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff218/patyguaxupe/te-amo.jpg Image of the week]

== Aug 13th ==
* Review release status
** What's the schedule for 3.5? Answer: Awaiting Fligtar's return tomorrow, same status as last week - ETA for completion of Dev Tools is next Fri 8/22, then we need time for QA + L10N work and a push during a Sept maintenance window.
* Discussed [http://www.conduit.com Conduit]. Considering a controlled, limited return of a few Conduit toolbars to AMO.
* Discussed [http://www.TRUSTe.org TRUSTe]. Discussing with TRUSTe about a tiered certification program for add-ons and add-on authors
* Thank you and Farewell to Cesar! (XPI Diff launched, yeah! MyLists needs to find an SVN home)
* Discuss [[Update:Remora/Discussions_Revamp|discussions revamp]] - timeline for this? (Not 3.4.7 since we're still planning).
* Can we do a broadcast email to nom queue folks? Yes, Cesar to help out with the query.

== Aug 6th ==
* Three parallel releases - 3.4.7 (features/bug fixes), 4.0.1 (performance) and 3.5 (dev tools)
* AMO 3.4.7
** Enable Vanilla discussions? ACTION: Laura will build wiki page and we'll dump Vanilla for a custom system.
** '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 4.0.1
** {VERY Tentative: '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''}
* AMO 3.5 Status
** Status Manager in progress, Upload Manager remains to be done. ETA is Fri, 8/22 for code complete, need time for QA, L10N. Public push date in Sep to give time for L10N. (Justin has vacation time)
* Push for this Thu, 8/7? (XPI Differ, other?)
* Starting work on "Bandwagon" (Add-on Sharing)

== July 30th ==
* No meeting due to Firefox Summit

== July 23rd ==
* AMO 3.4.6 - how are we doing?
** Enable Vanilla Discussions?
** Replace Vanilla by a simple forum we make ourselves? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Discuss AMO/Add-ons session @ [[Summit2008/Sessions/Schedule|Fx Summit]]
* Next week's meeting?

== July 16th ==
* AMO 3.4.6 status
* Justin to walk thru the "Add-on Sharing Proposal"
* No love from Urchin - still missing data from launch (escalated), last few days are at half of total. :-(
** Sounds like {{bug|444948}} -- the SJ AMO logs were moved to a different directory and they didn't update Urchin. -flig
* rdoherty, are you willing to take on {{bug|434540}}? (yes)
* 1 or 2 stability releases? (rdoherty)

== July 9th ==
* Readiness for AMO 3.4.5 release on Thu, 7/10 evening
* AMO 3.4.6 - '''Code Freeze - 7/21 (11:59pm), push: 7/24'''
* Offer extended to AMO Community Manager
* Metrics:
** Pageviews spike from Fx3 is waning...seeing 6M PV's now
** Ping & Download counts are trending downwards according to Moz dashboard - checking with IT for possible causes
* Performance branch testing & merging - need to determine which release it can be merged with.
* ACTION: Wil will tag and <s>justin to file an IT ticket</s> - {{bug|444378}}

== July 2nd ==
* Determine new AMO 3.4.5 dates - Candi-dates: '''Code Freeze: 7/7, Push: 7/10'''
** stephend on vacation from 7/7-7/11 (bug verifications graciously covered by juanb and ss - thanks guys!)
** Fx3 users are still suffering under {{bug|437174}} (error 261), and will continue so until a Firefox update is released. Should we add a message to the install button, linking to a wiki page (or so) explaining that they need to switch on third-party cookies if they receive this error? This would only show when logged in, for experimental add-ons. --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Urchin is back up (sorta), we have about 8M daily page views (about 2x what we had prior to Fx 3 launch)
* Draft Q3 goals for discussion:
** Launch three AMO dot releases / execute to [[Update:Roadmap|roadmap]] & triaged bug lists (with webdev)
** Rollout at least one end user engagement project
** Conduct Add-on Developer Survey
** Rollout revised AMO Developer Tools (with webdev)
** Move site metrics to Urchin 6 (with IT)
** Prototype a Pentaho-based AMO dashboard (with IT)
* Draft terms of service available for moz.com/moz.org, need to add AMO API and AMO user-specific conditional sections. Outside legal is working on it.
* Rotated the reco list - [http://blog.mozilla.com/basil/2008/07/01/featured-add-ons-rotation-for-july-2008/ blogged about it]
* ACTION: Basil to setup bug triage times to help with release/feature scheduling.

= Earlier Meeting Notes =
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Apr 2008-Jun 2008|Archive April 2008-June 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Nov 07-Mar 2008|Archive November 2007-March 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2007|Archive October-November 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2007|Archive August-September 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Dec-Jul 2007|Archive December 2006-July 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2006|Archive October-November 2006]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2006|Archive August-September 2006]]

AMO:Meeting Notes

2008-08-28T21:01:27Z

Bhashem:

[[Update:Remora|« Back to Update:Remora]]

== AMO Project Meeting Details ==
<pre>
Wednesdays, 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern
1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) or 1-650-215-1282 or 1-650-903-0800
Conferencing Center: x91
Conference ID: 261</pre>

== Common AMO Bugzilla Queries ==
* AMO 3.5 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Code Complete - Fri, 8/29, push: Thu, TBD'''
* AMO 4.0.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO4.0.1-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, Sep 15 (11:59pm), push: Thu, Sep 18'''
* AMO 3.5.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5.1&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, TBD (11:59pm), push: Thu, TBD'''

__TOC__

== Aug 27th ==
* Next Release (4.0.1) - See [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/RevisedDevSchedule.pdf Morgamic's 3-week cycle template]
** Dev Start: Tue, Sep 2
** Code Freeze: Mon, Sep 15
** QA-Regression-Bug Fix thru to Thu, Sep 18
** Push: Thu, Sep 18th evening
** Planning for next release, Fri, Sep 19
** Next Cycle: Mon, Sep 22
* [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/Q3Roadmap.pdf Q3 AMO Roadmap]
* Next-next Release (4.0.2) Ideas
** Find-as-you-type
** FAQ
** Sexy search engines landing page
** Editor leaderboard
* What are we going to do with the "Addons" component in Bugzilla? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
** Mark as INVALID and tell them to contact author
** Have improved integration of Bugzilla and AMO and show in dev panel
** Talk to Tomcat
[http://shutterhost.com/places/amo/images/amo_karoke_png.jpg image of the week]

== Aug 20th ==
* AMO 3.4.7 release status - Wil will tag and file the push bug
* Release cycle - Morgamic is proposing a 3-week cycle to prevent last minute crunches and focusing on the push rather than starting the next dev cycle. Proposal to follow.
* TRUSTe proposal in hand
* Next maintenance release will be 3.5.1 - schedule TBD until we figure out the 4.0.1 stuff.
* 4.0.1 only has 1 perf-related bug. Basil to send email to IT to gather perf ideas and add to release - Morgamic/Wil to figure out who gets assigned what. Determine 3.5.1 effort and if it should be in parallel.
* Firefox Major Update readiness - will run full throttle unless there are issues. IT will be testing a new CDN network to aid
* AMO 3.5
** Preview manager was finished a couple weeks ago and Stephen has been QA'ing it and catching a few bugs that have now been fixed. The status changer is mostly finished, and that will be followed by the upload/submission tool which already has the backend done. Target date is 8/29.
* Bandwagon
** We have mockups to go off of now thanks to Boriss, so Brian King and team will start working on the first milestone which is purely extension development. Milestone 2 will begin to require webdev assistance from both website and API standpoints. Again, if you're interested in this project, just let Fligtar know and he'll add you to the Grouphub where the updated detailed schedule and requirements will be posted.

[http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff218/patyguaxupe/te-amo.jpg Image of the week]

== Aug 13th ==
* Review release status
** What's the schedule for 3.5? Answer: Awaiting Fligtar's return tomorrow, same status as last week - ETA for completion of Dev Tools is next Fri 8/22, then we need time for QA + L10N work and a push during a Sept maintenance window.
* Discussed [http://www.conduit.com Conduit]. Considering a controlled, limited return of a few Conduit toolbars to AMO.
* Discussed [http://www.TRUSTe.org TRUSTe]. Discussing with TRUSTe about a tiered certification program for add-ons and add-on authors
* Thank you and Farewell to Cesar! (XPI Diff launched, yeah! MyLists needs to find an SVN home)
* Discuss [[Update:Remora/Discussions_Revamp|discussions revamp]] - timeline for this? (Not 3.4.7 since we're still planning).
* Can we do a broadcast email to nom queue folks? Yes, Cesar to help out with the query.

== Aug 6th ==
* Three parallel releases - 3.4.7 (features/bug fixes), 4.0.1 (performance) and 3.5 (dev tools)
* AMO 3.4.7
** Enable Vanilla discussions? ACTION: Laura will build wiki page and we'll dump Vanilla for a custom system.
** '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 4.0.1
** {VERY Tentative: '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''}
* AMO 3.5 Status
** Status Manager in progress, Upload Manager remains to be done. ETA is Fri, 8/22 for code complete, need time for QA, L10N. Public push date in Sep to give time for L10N. (Justin has vacation time)
* Push for this Thu, 8/7? (XPI Differ, other?)
* Starting work on "Bandwagon" (Add-on Sharing)

== July 30th ==
* No meeting due to Firefox Summit

== July 23rd ==
* AMO 3.4.6 - how are we doing?
** Enable Vanilla Discussions?
** Replace Vanilla by a simple forum we make ourselves? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Discuss AMO/Add-ons session @ [[Summit2008/Sessions/Schedule|Fx Summit]]
* Next week's meeting?

== July 16th ==
* AMO 3.4.6 status
* Justin to walk thru the "Add-on Sharing Proposal"
* No love from Urchin - still missing data from launch (escalated), last few days are at half of total. :-(
** Sounds like {{bug|444948}} -- the SJ AMO logs were moved to a different directory and they didn't update Urchin. -flig
* rdoherty, are you willing to take on {{bug|434540}}? (yes)
* 1 or 2 stability releases? (rdoherty)

== July 9th ==
* Readiness for AMO 3.4.5 release on Thu, 7/10 evening
* AMO 3.4.6 - '''Code Freeze - 7/21 (11:59pm), push: 7/24'''
* Offer extended to AMO Community Manager
* Metrics:
** Pageviews spike from Fx3 is waning...seeing 6M PV's now
** Ping & Download counts are trending downwards according to Moz dashboard - checking with IT for possible causes
* Performance branch testing & merging - need to determine which release it can be merged with.
* ACTION: Wil will tag and <s>justin to file an IT ticket</s> - {{bug|444378}}

== July 2nd ==
* Determine new AMO 3.4.5 dates - Candi-dates: '''Code Freeze: 7/7, Push: 7/10'''
** stephend on vacation from 7/7-7/11 (bug verifications graciously covered by juanb and ss - thanks guys!)
** Fx3 users are still suffering under {{bug|437174}} (error 261), and will continue so until a Firefox update is released. Should we add a message to the install button, linking to a wiki page (or so) explaining that they need to switch on third-party cookies if they receive this error? This would only show when logged in, for experimental add-ons. --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Urchin is back up (sorta), we have about 8M daily page views (about 2x what we had prior to Fx 3 launch)
* Draft Q3 goals for discussion:
** Launch three AMO dot releases / execute to [[Update:Roadmap|roadmap]] & triaged bug lists (with webdev)
** Rollout at least one end user engagement project
** Conduct Add-on Developer Survey
** Rollout revised AMO Developer Tools (with webdev)
** Move site metrics to Urchin 6 (with IT)
** Prototype a Pentaho-based AMO dashboard (with IT)
* Draft terms of service available for moz.com/moz.org, need to add AMO API and AMO user-specific conditional sections. Outside legal is working on it.
* Rotated the reco list - [http://blog.mozilla.com/basil/2008/07/01/featured-add-ons-rotation-for-july-2008/ blogged about it]
* ACTION: Basil to setup bug triage times to help with release/feature scheduling.

= Earlier Meeting Notes =
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Apr 2008-Jun 2008|Archive April 2008-June 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Nov 07-Mar 2008|Archive November 2007-March 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2007|Archive October-November 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2007|Archive August-September 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Dec-Jul 2007|Archive December 2006-July 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2006|Archive October-November 2006]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2006|Archive August-September 2006]]

AMO:Meeting Notes

2008-08-27T18:29:57Z

Bhashem: /* Aug 27th */

[[Update:Remora|« Back to Update:Remora]]

== AMO Project Meeting Details ==
<pre>
Wednesdays, 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern
1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) or 1-650-215-1282 or 1-650-903-0800
Conferencing Center: x91
Conference ID: 261</pre>

== Common AMO Bugzilla Queries ==
* AMO 3.5 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Code Complete - Fri, 8/29, push: Thu, TBD'''
* AMO 4.0.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO4.0.1-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, TBD (11:59pm), push: Thu, TBD'''
* AMO 3.5.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5.1&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, TBD (11:59pm), push: Thu, TBD'''

__TOC__

== Aug 27th ==
* Next Release (4.0.1) - See [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/RevisedDevSchedule.pdf Morgamic's 3-week cycle template]
** Dev Start: Tue, Sep 2
** Code Freeze: Mon, Sep 15
** QA-Regression-Bug Fix thru to Thu, Sep 18
** Planning for next release, Fri, Sep 19
** Next Cycle: Mon, Sep 22
* [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/Q3Roadmap.pdf Q3 AMO Roadmap]
* Next-next Release (4.0.2) Ideas
** Find-as-you-type
** FAQ
** Sexy search engines landing page
** Editor leaderboard
* What are we going to do with the "Addons" component in Bugzilla? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
** Mark as INVALID and tell them to contact author
** Have improved integration of Bugzilla and AMO and show in dev panel
** Talk to Tomcat
[http://shutterhost.com/places/amo/images/amo_karoke_png.jpg image of the week]

== Aug 20th ==
* AMO 3.4.7 release status - Wil will tag and file the push bug
* Release cycle - Morgamic is proposing a 3-week cycle to prevent last minute crunches and focusing on the push rather than starting the next dev cycle. Proposal to follow.
* TRUSTe proposal in hand
* Next maintenance release will be 3.5.1 - schedule TBD until we figure out the 4.0.1 stuff.
* 4.0.1 only has 1 perf-related bug. Basil to send email to IT to gather perf ideas and add to release - Morgamic/Wil to figure out who gets assigned what. Determine 3.5.1 effort and if it should be in parallel.
* Firefox Major Update readiness - will run full throttle unless there are issues. IT will be testing a new CDN network to aid
* AMO 3.5
** Preview manager was finished a couple weeks ago and Stephen has been QA'ing it and catching a few bugs that have now been fixed. The status changer is mostly finished, and that will be followed by the upload/submission tool which already has the backend done. Target date is 8/29.
* Bandwagon
** We have mockups to go off of now thanks to Boriss, so Brian King and team will start working on the first milestone which is purely extension development. Milestone 2 will begin to require webdev assistance from both website and API standpoints. Again, if you're interested in this project, just let Fligtar know and he'll add you to the Grouphub where the updated detailed schedule and requirements will be posted.

[http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff218/patyguaxupe/te-amo.jpg Image of the week]

== Aug 13th ==
* Review release status
** What's the schedule for 3.5? Answer: Awaiting Fligtar's return tomorrow, same status as last week - ETA for completion of Dev Tools is next Fri 8/22, then we need time for QA + L10N work and a push during a Sept maintenance window.
* Discussed [http://www.conduit.com Conduit]. Considering a controlled, limited return of a few Conduit toolbars to AMO.
* Discussed [http://www.TRUSTe.org TRUSTe]. Discussing with TRUSTe about a tiered certification program for add-ons and add-on authors
* Thank you and Farewell to Cesar! (XPI Diff launched, yeah! MyLists needs to find an SVN home)
* Discuss [[Update:Remora/Discussions_Revamp|discussions revamp]] - timeline for this? (Not 3.4.7 since we're still planning).
* Can we do a broadcast email to nom queue folks? Yes, Cesar to help out with the query.

== Aug 6th ==
* Three parallel releases - 3.4.7 (features/bug fixes), 4.0.1 (performance) and 3.5 (dev tools)
* AMO 3.4.7
** Enable Vanilla discussions? ACTION: Laura will build wiki page and we'll dump Vanilla for a custom system.
** '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 4.0.1
** {VERY Tentative: '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''}
* AMO 3.5 Status
** Status Manager in progress, Upload Manager remains to be done. ETA is Fri, 8/22 for code complete, need time for QA, L10N. Public push date in Sep to give time for L10N. (Justin has vacation time)
* Push for this Thu, 8/7? (XPI Differ, other?)
* Starting work on "Bandwagon" (Add-on Sharing)

== July 30th ==
* No meeting due to Firefox Summit

== July 23rd ==
* AMO 3.4.6 - how are we doing?
** Enable Vanilla Discussions?
** Replace Vanilla by a simple forum we make ourselves? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Discuss AMO/Add-ons session @ [[Summit2008/Sessions/Schedule|Fx Summit]]
* Next week's meeting?

== July 16th ==
* AMO 3.4.6 status
* Justin to walk thru the "Add-on Sharing Proposal"
* No love from Urchin - still missing data from launch (escalated), last few days are at half of total. :-(
** Sounds like {{bug|444948}} -- the SJ AMO logs were moved to a different directory and they didn't update Urchin. -flig
* rdoherty, are you willing to take on {{bug|434540}}? (yes)
* 1 or 2 stability releases? (rdoherty)

== July 9th ==
* Readiness for AMO 3.4.5 release on Thu, 7/10 evening
* AMO 3.4.6 - '''Code Freeze - 7/21 (11:59pm), push: 7/24'''
* Offer extended to AMO Community Manager
* Metrics:
** Pageviews spike from Fx3 is waning...seeing 6M PV's now
** Ping & Download counts are trending downwards according to Moz dashboard - checking with IT for possible causes
* Performance branch testing & merging - need to determine which release it can be merged with.
* ACTION: Wil will tag and <s>justin to file an IT ticket</s> - {{bug|444378}}

== July 2nd ==
* Determine new AMO 3.4.5 dates - Candi-dates: '''Code Freeze: 7/7, Push: 7/10'''
** stephend on vacation from 7/7-7/11 (bug verifications graciously covered by juanb and ss - thanks guys!)
** Fx3 users are still suffering under {{bug|437174}} (error 261), and will continue so until a Firefox update is released. Should we add a message to the install button, linking to a wiki page (or so) explaining that they need to switch on third-party cookies if they receive this error? This would only show when logged in, for experimental add-ons. --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Urchin is back up (sorta), we have about 8M daily page views (about 2x what we had prior to Fx 3 launch)
* Draft Q3 goals for discussion:
** Launch three AMO dot releases / execute to [[Update:Roadmap|roadmap]] & triaged bug lists (with webdev)
** Rollout at least one end user engagement project
** Conduct Add-on Developer Survey
** Rollout revised AMO Developer Tools (with webdev)
** Move site metrics to Urchin 6 (with IT)
** Prototype a Pentaho-based AMO dashboard (with IT)
* Draft terms of service available for moz.com/moz.org, need to add AMO API and AMO user-specific conditional sections. Outside legal is working on it.
* Rotated the reco list - [http://blog.mozilla.com/basil/2008/07/01/featured-add-ons-rotation-for-july-2008/ blogged about it]
* ACTION: Basil to setup bug triage times to help with release/feature scheduling.

= Earlier Meeting Notes =
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Apr 2008-Jun 2008|Archive April 2008-June 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Nov 07-Mar 2008|Archive November 2007-March 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2007|Archive October-November 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2007|Archive August-September 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Dec-Jul 2007|Archive December 2006-July 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2006|Archive October-November 2006]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2006|Archive August-September 2006]]

AMO:Meeting Notes

2008-08-27T17:30:16Z

Bhashem: /* Aug 27th */

[[Update:Remora|« Back to Update:Remora]]

== AMO Project Meeting Details ==
<pre>
Wednesdays, 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern
1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) or 1-650-215-1282 or 1-650-903-0800
Conferencing Center: x91
Conference ID: 261</pre>

== Common AMO Bugzilla Queries ==
* AMO 3.5 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Code Complete - Fri, 8/29, push: Thu, TBD'''
* AMO 4.0.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO4.0.1-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, TBD (11:59pm), push: Thu, TBD'''
* AMO 3.5.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5.1&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, TBD (11:59pm), push: Thu, TBD'''

__TOC__

== Aug 27th ==
* Next Release (4.0.1)
** Dev Start: Tue, Sep 2
** Code Freeze: Mon, Sep 15
** QA-Regression-Bug Fix thru to Thu, Sep 18
** Planning for next release, Fri, Sep 19
** Next Cycle: Mon, Sep 22
* [http://people.mozilla.com/~basil/amo/Q3Roadmap.pdf Q3 AMO Roadmap]
* Next-next Release (4.0.2) Ideas
** Find-as-you-type
** FAQ
** Sexy search engines landing page
** Editor leaderboard
* What are we going to do with the "Addons" component in Bugzilla? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
** Mark as INVALID and tell them to contact author
** Have improved integration of Bugzilla and AMO and show in dev panel
** Talk to Tomcat
[http://www.amonational.com/trespictures/AMO_Parking_Only.jpg Picture of the day]

== Aug 20th ==
* AMO 3.4.7 release status - Wil will tag and file the push bug
* Release cycle - Morgamic is proposing a 3-week cycle to prevent last minute crunches and focusing on the push rather than starting the next dev cycle. Proposal to follow.
* TRUSTe proposal in hand
* Next maintenance release will be 3.5.1 - schedule TBD until we figure out the 4.0.1 stuff.
* 4.0.1 only has 1 perf-related bug. Basil to send email to IT to gather perf ideas and add to release - Morgamic/Wil to figure out who gets assigned what. Determine 3.5.1 effort and if it should be in parallel.
* Firefox Major Update readiness - will run full throttle unless there are issues. IT will be testing a new CDN network to aid
* AMO 3.5
** Preview manager was finished a couple weeks ago and Stephen has been QA'ing it and catching a few bugs that have now been fixed. The status changer is mostly finished, and that will be followed by the upload/submission tool which already has the backend done. Target date is 8/29.
* Bandwagon
** We have mockups to go off of now thanks to Boriss, so Brian King and team will start working on the first milestone which is purely extension development. Milestone 2 will begin to require webdev assistance from both website and API standpoints. Again, if you're interested in this project, just let Fligtar know and he'll add you to the Grouphub where the updated detailed schedule and requirements will be posted.

[http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff218/patyguaxupe/te-amo.jpg Image of the week]

== Aug 13th ==
* Review release status
** What's the schedule for 3.5? Answer: Awaiting Fligtar's return tomorrow, same status as last week - ETA for completion of Dev Tools is next Fri 8/22, then we need time for QA + L10N work and a push during a Sept maintenance window.
* Discussed [http://www.conduit.com Conduit]. Considering a controlled, limited return of a few Conduit toolbars to AMO.
* Discussed [http://www.TRUSTe.org TRUSTe]. Discussing with TRUSTe about a tiered certification program for add-ons and add-on authors
* Thank you and Farewell to Cesar! (XPI Diff launched, yeah! MyLists needs to find an SVN home)
* Discuss [[Update:Remora/Discussions_Revamp|discussions revamp]] - timeline for this? (Not 3.4.7 since we're still planning).
* Can we do a broadcast email to nom queue folks? Yes, Cesar to help out with the query.

== Aug 6th ==
* Three parallel releases - 3.4.7 (features/bug fixes), 4.0.1 (performance) and 3.5 (dev tools)
* AMO 3.4.7
** Enable Vanilla discussions? ACTION: Laura will build wiki page and we'll dump Vanilla for a custom system.
** '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 4.0.1
** {VERY Tentative: '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''}
* AMO 3.5 Status
** Status Manager in progress, Upload Manager remains to be done. ETA is Fri, 8/22 for code complete, need time for QA, L10N. Public push date in Sep to give time for L10N. (Justin has vacation time)
* Push for this Thu, 8/7? (XPI Differ, other?)
* Starting work on "Bandwagon" (Add-on Sharing)

== July 30th ==
* No meeting due to Firefox Summit

== July 23rd ==
* AMO 3.4.6 - how are we doing?
** Enable Vanilla Discussions?
** Replace Vanilla by a simple forum we make ourselves? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Discuss AMO/Add-ons session @ [[Summit2008/Sessions/Schedule|Fx Summit]]
* Next week's meeting?

== July 16th ==
* AMO 3.4.6 status
* Justin to walk thru the "Add-on Sharing Proposal"
* No love from Urchin - still missing data from launch (escalated), last few days are at half of total. :-(
** Sounds like {{bug|444948}} -- the SJ AMO logs were moved to a different directory and they didn't update Urchin. -flig
* rdoherty, are you willing to take on {{bug|434540}}? (yes)
* 1 or 2 stability releases? (rdoherty)

== July 9th ==
* Readiness for AMO 3.4.5 release on Thu, 7/10 evening
* AMO 3.4.6 - '''Code Freeze - 7/21 (11:59pm), push: 7/24'''
* Offer extended to AMO Community Manager
* Metrics:
** Pageviews spike from Fx3 is waning...seeing 6M PV's now
** Ping & Download counts are trending downwards according to Moz dashboard - checking with IT for possible causes
* Performance branch testing & merging - need to determine which release it can be merged with.
* ACTION: Wil will tag and <s>justin to file an IT ticket</s> - {{bug|444378}}

== July 2nd ==
* Determine new AMO 3.4.5 dates - Candi-dates: '''Code Freeze: 7/7, Push: 7/10'''
** stephend on vacation from 7/7-7/11 (bug verifications graciously covered by juanb and ss - thanks guys!)
** Fx3 users are still suffering under {{bug|437174}} (error 261), and will continue so until a Firefox update is released. Should we add a message to the install button, linking to a wiki page (or so) explaining that they need to switch on third-party cookies if they receive this error? This would only show when logged in, for experimental add-ons. --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Urchin is back up (sorta), we have about 8M daily page views (about 2x what we had prior to Fx 3 launch)
* Draft Q3 goals for discussion:
** Launch three AMO dot releases / execute to [[Update:Roadmap|roadmap]] & triaged bug lists (with webdev)
** Rollout at least one end user engagement project
** Conduct Add-on Developer Survey
** Rollout revised AMO Developer Tools (with webdev)
** Move site metrics to Urchin 6 (with IT)
** Prototype a Pentaho-based AMO dashboard (with IT)
* Draft terms of service available for moz.com/moz.org, need to add AMO API and AMO user-specific conditional sections. Outside legal is working on it.
* Rotated the reco list - [http://blog.mozilla.com/basil/2008/07/01/featured-add-ons-rotation-for-july-2008/ blogged about it]
* ACTION: Basil to setup bug triage times to help with release/feature scheduling.

= Earlier Meeting Notes =
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Apr 2008-Jun 2008|Archive April 2008-June 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Nov 07-Mar 2008|Archive November 2007-March 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2007|Archive October-November 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2007|Archive August-September 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Dec-Jul 2007|Archive December 2006-July 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2006|Archive October-November 2006]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2006|Archive August-September 2006]]

AMO:Meeting Notes

2008-08-27T17:09:28Z

Bhashem: /* Aug 27th */

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Bhashem: /* Aug 27th */

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Bhashem: /* Aug 27th */

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2008-08-26T23:46:18Z

Bhashem: /* Aug 20th */

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2008-08-22T21:39:40Z

Bhashem: /* Common AMO Bugzilla Queries */

AMO:Meeting Notes

2008-08-21T23:45:54Z

Bhashem: /* Common AMO Bugzilla Queries */

[[Update:Remora|« Back to Update:Remora]]

== AMO Project Meeting Details ==
<pre>
Wednesdays, 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern
1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) or 1-650-215-1282 or 1-650-903-0800
Conferencing Center: x91
Conference ID: 261</pre>

== Common AMO Bugzilla Queries ==
* AMO 3.4.7 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.4.7&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.4.7&query_based_on=AMO-3.4.7&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.4.7&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.4.7&query_based_on=AMO3.4.7-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 3.5 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Code Complete - Fri, 8/29, push: Thu, TBD'''
* AMO 4.0.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO4.0.1-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, TBD (11:59pm), push: Thu, TBD'''
* AMO 3.5.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5.1&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, TBD (11:59pm), push: Thu, TBD'''

__TOC__

== Aug 20th ==
* AMO 3.4.7 release status - Wil will tag and file the push bug
* Release cycle - Morgamic is proposing a 3-week cycle to prevent last minute crunches and focusing on the push rather than starting the next dev cycle. Proposal to follow.
* TRUSTe proposal in hand
* Next maintenance release will be 3.5.1 - schedule TBD until we figure out the 4.0.1 stuff.
* 4.0.1 only has 1 perf-related bug. Basil to send email to IT to gather perf ideas and add to release - Morgamic/Wil to figure out who gets assigned what. Determine 3.5.1 effort and if it should be in parallel.
* Firefox Major Update readiness - will run full throttle unless there are issues. IT will be testing a new CDN network to aid
* AMO 3.5
** Preview manager was finished a couple weeks ago and Stephen has been QA'ing it and catching a few bugs that have now been fixed. The status changer is mostly finished, and that will be followed by the upload/submission tool which already has the backend done. Target date is 8/29.
* Bandwagon
** We have mockups to go off of now thanks to Boriss, so Brian King and team will start working on the first milestone which is purely extension development. Milestone 2 will begin to require webdev assistance from both website and API standpoints. Again, if you're interested in this project, just let Fligtar know and he'll add you to the Grouphub where the updated detailed schedule and requirements will be posted.

[http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff218/patyguaxupe/te-amo.jpg Image of the week]

== Aug 13th ==
* Review release status
** What's the schedule for 3.5? Answer: Awaiting Fligtar's return tomorrow, same status as last week - ETA for completion of Dev Tools is next Fri 8/22, then we need time for QA + L10N work and a push during a Sept maintenance window.
* Discussed [http://www.conduit.com Conduit]. Considering a controlled, limited return of a few Conduit toolbars to AMO.
* Discussed [http://www.TRUSTe.org TRUSTe]. Discussing with TRUSTe about a tiered certification program for add-ons and add-on authors
* Thank you and Farewell to Cesar! (XPI Diff launched, yeah! MyLists needs to find an SVN home)
* Discuss [[Update:Remora/Discussions_Revamp|discussions revamp]] - timeline for this? (Not 3.4.7 since we're still planning).
* Can we do a broadcast email to nom queue folks? Yes, Cesar to help out with the query.

== Aug 6th ==
* Three parallel releases - 3.4.7 (features/bug fixes), 4.0.1 (performance) and 3.5 (dev tools)
* AMO 3.4.7
** Enable Vanilla discussions? ACTION: Laura will build wiki page and we'll dump Vanilla for a custom system.
** '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 4.0.1
** {VERY Tentative: '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''}
* AMO 3.5 Status
** Status Manager in progress, Upload Manager remains to be done. ETA is Fri, 8/22 for code complete, need time for QA, L10N. Public push date in Sep to give time for L10N. (Justin has vacation time)
* Push for this Thu, 8/7? (XPI Differ, other?)
* Starting work on "Bandwagon" (Add-on Sharing)

== July 30th ==
* No meeting due to Firefox Summit

== July 23rd ==
* AMO 3.4.6 - how are we doing?
** Enable Vanilla Discussions?
** Replace Vanilla by a simple forum we make ourselves? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Discuss AMO/Add-ons session @ [[Summit2008/Sessions/Schedule|Fx Summit]]
* Next week's meeting?

== July 16th ==
* AMO 3.4.6 status
* Justin to walk thru the "Add-on Sharing Proposal"
* No love from Urchin - still missing data from launch (escalated), last few days are at half of total. :-(
** Sounds like {{bug|444948}} -- the SJ AMO logs were moved to a different directory and they didn't update Urchin. -flig
* rdoherty, are you willing to take on {{bug|434540}}? (yes)
* 1 or 2 stability releases? (rdoherty)

== July 9th ==
* Readiness for AMO 3.4.5 release on Thu, 7/10 evening
* AMO 3.4.6 - '''Code Freeze - 7/21 (11:59pm), push: 7/24'''
* Offer extended to AMO Community Manager
* Metrics:
** Pageviews spike from Fx3 is waning...seeing 6M PV's now
** Ping & Download counts are trending downwards according to Moz dashboard - checking with IT for possible causes
* Performance branch testing & merging - need to determine which release it can be merged with.
* ACTION: Wil will tag and <s>justin to file an IT ticket</s> - {{bug|444378}}

== July 2nd ==
* Determine new AMO 3.4.5 dates - Candi-dates: '''Code Freeze: 7/7, Push: 7/10'''
** stephend on vacation from 7/7-7/11 (bug verifications graciously covered by juanb and ss - thanks guys!)
** Fx3 users are still suffering under {{bug|437174}} (error 261), and will continue so until a Firefox update is released. Should we add a message to the install button, linking to a wiki page (or so) explaining that they need to switch on third-party cookies if they receive this error? This would only show when logged in, for experimental add-ons. --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Urchin is back up (sorta), we have about 8M daily page views (about 2x what we had prior to Fx 3 launch)
* Draft Q3 goals for discussion:
** Launch three AMO dot releases / execute to [[Update:Roadmap|roadmap]] & triaged bug lists (with webdev)
** Rollout at least one end user engagement project
** Conduct Add-on Developer Survey
** Rollout revised AMO Developer Tools (with webdev)
** Move site metrics to Urchin 6 (with IT)
** Prototype a Pentaho-based AMO dashboard (with IT)
* Draft terms of service available for moz.com/moz.org, need to add AMO API and AMO user-specific conditional sections. Outside legal is working on it.
* Rotated the reco list - [http://blog.mozilla.com/basil/2008/07/01/featured-add-ons-rotation-for-july-2008/ blogged about it]
* ACTION: Basil to setup bug triage times to help with release/feature scheduling.

= Earlier Meeting Notes =
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Apr 2008-Jun 2008|Archive April 2008-June 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Nov 07-Mar 2008|Archive November 2007-March 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2007|Archive October-November 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2007|Archive August-September 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Dec-Jul 2007|Archive December 2006-July 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2006|Archive October-November 2006]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2006|Archive August-September 2006]]

AMO:Meeting Notes

2008-08-20T18:12:49Z

Bhashem: /* Common AMO Bugzilla Queries */

[[Update:Remora|« Back to Update:Remora]]

== AMO Project Meeting Details ==
<pre>
Wednesdays, 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern
1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) or 1-650-215-1282 or 1-650-903-0800
Conferencing Center: x91
Conference ID: 261</pre>

== Common AMO Bugzilla Queries ==
* AMO 3.4.7 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.4.7&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.4.7&query_based_on=AMO-3.4.7&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.4.7&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.4.7&query_based_on=AMO3.4.7-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 3.5 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs]
* AMO 4.0.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO4.0.1-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, TBD (11:59pm), push: Thu, TBD'''
* AMO 3.5.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5.1&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, TBD (11:59pm), push: Thu, TBD'''

__TOC__

== Aug 20th ==
* AMO 3.4.7 release status - Wil will tag and file the push bug
* Release cycle - Morgamic is proposing a 3-week cycle to prevent last minute crunches and focusing on the push rather than starting the next dev cycle. Proposal to follow.
* TRUSTe proposal in hand
* Next maintenance release will be 3.5.1 - schedule TBD until we figure out the 4.0.1 stuff.
* 4.0.1 only has 1 perf-related bug. Basil to send email to IT to gather perf ideas and add to release - Morgamic/Wil to figure out who gets assigned what. Determine 3.5.1 effort and if it should be in parallel.
* Firefox Major Update readiness - will run full throttle unless there are issues. IT will be testing a new CDN network to aid
* AMO 3.5
** Preview manager was finished a couple weeks ago and Stephen has been QA'ing it and catching a few bugs that have now been fixed. The status changer is mostly finished, and that will be followed by the upload/submission tool which already has the backend done.
* Bandwagon
** We have mockups to go off of now thanks to Boriss, so Brian King and team will start working on the first milestone which is purely extension development. Milestone 2 will begin to require webdev assistance from both website and API standpoints. Again, if you're interested in this project, just let Fligtar know and he'll add you to the Grouphub where the updated detailed schedule and requirements will be posted.
* IKEA
** Fligtar went to IKEA today for the first time ever and is in love.

[http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff218/patyguaxupe/te-amo.jpg Image of the week]

== Aug 13th ==
* Review release status
** What's the schedule for 3.5? Answer: Awaiting Fligtar's return tomorrow, same status as last week - ETA for completion of Dev Tools is next Fri 8/22, then we need time for QA + L10N work and a push during a Sept maintenance window.
* Discussed [http://www.conduit.com Conduit]. Considering a controlled, limited return of a few Conduit toolbars to AMO.
* Discussed [http://www.TRUSTe.org TRUSTe]. Discussing with TRUSTe about a tiered certification program for add-ons and add-on authors
* Thank you and Farewell to Cesar! (XPI Diff launched, yeah! MyLists needs to find an SVN home)
* Discuss [[Update:Remora/Discussions_Revamp|discussions revamp]] - timeline for this? (Not 3.4.7 since we're still planning).
* Can we do a broadcast email to nom queue folks? Yes, Cesar to help out with the query.

== Aug 6th ==
* Three parallel releases - 3.4.7 (features/bug fixes), 4.0.1 (performance) and 3.5 (dev tools)
* AMO 3.4.7
** Enable Vanilla discussions? ACTION: Laura will build wiki page and we'll dump Vanilla for a custom system.
** '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 4.0.1
** {VERY Tentative: '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''}
* AMO 3.5 Status
** Status Manager in progress, Upload Manager remains to be done. ETA is Fri, 8/22 for code complete, need time for QA, L10N. Public push date in Sep to give time for L10N. (Justin has vacation time)
* Push for this Thu, 8/7? (XPI Differ, other?)
* Starting work on "Bandwagon" (Add-on Sharing)

== July 30th ==
* No meeting due to Firefox Summit

== July 23rd ==
* AMO 3.4.6 - how are we doing?
** Enable Vanilla Discussions?
** Replace Vanilla by a simple forum we make ourselves? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Discuss AMO/Add-ons session @ [[Summit2008/Sessions/Schedule|Fx Summit]]
* Next week's meeting?

== July 16th ==
* AMO 3.4.6 status
* Justin to walk thru the "Add-on Sharing Proposal"
* No love from Urchin - still missing data from launch (escalated), last few days are at half of total. :-(
** Sounds like {{bug|444948}} -- the SJ AMO logs were moved to a different directory and they didn't update Urchin. -flig
* rdoherty, are you willing to take on {{bug|434540}}? (yes)
* 1 or 2 stability releases? (rdoherty)

== July 9th ==
* Readiness for AMO 3.4.5 release on Thu, 7/10 evening
* AMO 3.4.6 - '''Code Freeze - 7/21 (11:59pm), push: 7/24'''
* Offer extended to AMO Community Manager
* Metrics:
** Pageviews spike from Fx3 is waning...seeing 6M PV's now
** Ping & Download counts are trending downwards according to Moz dashboard - checking with IT for possible causes
* Performance branch testing & merging - need to determine which release it can be merged with.
* ACTION: Wil will tag and <s>justin to file an IT ticket</s> - {{bug|444378}}

== July 2nd ==
* Determine new AMO 3.4.5 dates - Candi-dates: '''Code Freeze: 7/7, Push: 7/10'''
** stephend on vacation from 7/7-7/11 (bug verifications graciously covered by juanb and ss - thanks guys!)
** Fx3 users are still suffering under {{bug|437174}} (error 261), and will continue so until a Firefox update is released. Should we add a message to the install button, linking to a wiki page (or so) explaining that they need to switch on third-party cookies if they receive this error? This would only show when logged in, for experimental add-ons. --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Urchin is back up (sorta), we have about 8M daily page views (about 2x what we had prior to Fx 3 launch)
* Draft Q3 goals for discussion:
** Launch three AMO dot releases / execute to [[Update:Roadmap|roadmap]] & triaged bug lists (with webdev)
** Rollout at least one end user engagement project
** Conduct Add-on Developer Survey
** Rollout revised AMO Developer Tools (with webdev)
** Move site metrics to Urchin 6 (with IT)
** Prototype a Pentaho-based AMO dashboard (with IT)
* Draft terms of service available for moz.com/moz.org, need to add AMO API and AMO user-specific conditional sections. Outside legal is working on it.
* Rotated the reco list - [http://blog.mozilla.com/basil/2008/07/01/featured-add-ons-rotation-for-july-2008/ blogged about it]
* ACTION: Basil to setup bug triage times to help with release/feature scheduling.

= Earlier Meeting Notes =
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Apr 2008-Jun 2008|Archive April 2008-June 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Nov 07-Mar 2008|Archive November 2007-March 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2007|Archive October-November 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2007|Archive August-September 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Dec-Jul 2007|Archive December 2006-July 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2006|Archive October-November 2006]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2006|Archive August-September 2006]]

AMO:Meeting Notes

2008-08-20T18:04:09Z

Bhashem: /* Aug 20th */

[[Update:Remora|« Back to Update:Remora]]

== AMO Project Meeting Details ==
<pre>
Wednesdays, 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern
1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) or 1-650-215-1282 or 1-650-903-0800
Conferencing Center: x91
Conference ID: 261</pre>

== Common AMO Bugzilla Queries ==
* AMO 3.4.7 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.4.7&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.4.7&query_based_on=AMO-3.4.7&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.4.7&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.4.7&query_based_on=AMO3.4.7-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 3.5 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs]
* AMO 4.0.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO4.0.1-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''
* AMO 3.5.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5.1&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, TBD (11:59pm), push: Thu, TBD'''

__TOC__

== Aug 20th ==
* AMO 3.4.7 release status - Wil will tag and file the push bug
* Release cycle - Morgamic is proposing a 3-week cycle to prevent last minute crunches and focusing on the push rather than starting the next dev cycle. Proposal to follow.
* TRUSTe proposal in hand
* Next maintenance release will be 3.5.1 - schedule TBD until we figure out the 4.0.1 stuff.
* 4.0.1 only has 1 perf-related bug. Basil to send email to IT to gather perf ideas and add to release - Morgamic/Wil to figure out who gets assigned what. Determine 3.5.1 effort and if it should be in parallel.
* Firefox Major Update readiness - will run full throttle unless there are issues. IT will be testing a new CDN network to aid
* AMO 3.5
** Preview manager was finished a couple weeks ago and Stephen has been QA'ing it and catching a few bugs that have now been fixed. The status changer is mostly finished, and that will be followed by the upload/submission tool which already has the backend done.
* Bandwagon
** We have mockups to go off of now thanks to Boriss, so Brian King and team will start working on the first milestone which is purely extension development. Milestone 2 will begin to require webdev assistance from both website and API standpoints. Again, if you're interested in this project, just let Fligtar know and he'll add you to the Grouphub where the updated detailed schedule and requirements will be posted.
* IKEA
** Fligtar went to IKEA today for the first time ever and is in love.

[http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff218/patyguaxupe/te-amo.jpg Image of the week]

== Aug 13th ==
* Review release status
** What's the schedule for 3.5? Answer: Awaiting Fligtar's return tomorrow, same status as last week - ETA for completion of Dev Tools is next Fri 8/22, then we need time for QA + L10N work and a push during a Sept maintenance window.
* Discussed [http://www.conduit.com Conduit]. Considering a controlled, limited return of a few Conduit toolbars to AMO.
* Discussed [http://www.TRUSTe.org TRUSTe]. Discussing with TRUSTe about a tiered certification program for add-ons and add-on authors
* Thank you and Farewell to Cesar! (XPI Diff launched, yeah! MyLists needs to find an SVN home)
* Discuss [[Update:Remora/Discussions_Revamp|discussions revamp]] - timeline for this? (Not 3.4.7 since we're still planning).
* Can we do a broadcast email to nom queue folks? Yes, Cesar to help out with the query.

== Aug 6th ==
* Three parallel releases - 3.4.7 (features/bug fixes), 4.0.1 (performance) and 3.5 (dev tools)
* AMO 3.4.7
** Enable Vanilla discussions? ACTION: Laura will build wiki page and we'll dump Vanilla for a custom system.
** '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 4.0.1
** {VERY Tentative: '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''}
* AMO 3.5 Status
** Status Manager in progress, Upload Manager remains to be done. ETA is Fri, 8/22 for code complete, need time for QA, L10N. Public push date in Sep to give time for L10N. (Justin has vacation time)
* Push for this Thu, 8/7? (XPI Differ, other?)
* Starting work on "Bandwagon" (Add-on Sharing)

== July 30th ==
* No meeting due to Firefox Summit

== July 23rd ==
* AMO 3.4.6 - how are we doing?
** Enable Vanilla Discussions?
** Replace Vanilla by a simple forum we make ourselves? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Discuss AMO/Add-ons session @ [[Summit2008/Sessions/Schedule|Fx Summit]]
* Next week's meeting?

== July 16th ==
* AMO 3.4.6 status
* Justin to walk thru the "Add-on Sharing Proposal"
* No love from Urchin - still missing data from launch (escalated), last few days are at half of total. :-(
** Sounds like {{bug|444948}} -- the SJ AMO logs were moved to a different directory and they didn't update Urchin. -flig
* rdoherty, are you willing to take on {{bug|434540}}? (yes)
* 1 or 2 stability releases? (rdoherty)

== July 9th ==
* Readiness for AMO 3.4.5 release on Thu, 7/10 evening
* AMO 3.4.6 - '''Code Freeze - 7/21 (11:59pm), push: 7/24'''
* Offer extended to AMO Community Manager
* Metrics:
** Pageviews spike from Fx3 is waning...seeing 6M PV's now
** Ping & Download counts are trending downwards according to Moz dashboard - checking with IT for possible causes
* Performance branch testing & merging - need to determine which release it can be merged with.
* ACTION: Wil will tag and <s>justin to file an IT ticket</s> - {{bug|444378}}

== July 2nd ==
* Determine new AMO 3.4.5 dates - Candi-dates: '''Code Freeze: 7/7, Push: 7/10'''
** stephend on vacation from 7/7-7/11 (bug verifications graciously covered by juanb and ss - thanks guys!)
** Fx3 users are still suffering under {{bug|437174}} (error 261), and will continue so until a Firefox update is released. Should we add a message to the install button, linking to a wiki page (or so) explaining that they need to switch on third-party cookies if they receive this error? This would only show when logged in, for experimental add-ons. --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Urchin is back up (sorta), we have about 8M daily page views (about 2x what we had prior to Fx 3 launch)
* Draft Q3 goals for discussion:
** Launch three AMO dot releases / execute to [[Update:Roadmap|roadmap]] & triaged bug lists (with webdev)
** Rollout at least one end user engagement project
** Conduct Add-on Developer Survey
** Rollout revised AMO Developer Tools (with webdev)
** Move site metrics to Urchin 6 (with IT)
** Prototype a Pentaho-based AMO dashboard (with IT)
* Draft terms of service available for moz.com/moz.org, need to add AMO API and AMO user-specific conditional sections. Outside legal is working on it.
* Rotated the reco list - [http://blog.mozilla.com/basil/2008/07/01/featured-add-ons-rotation-for-july-2008/ blogged about it]
* ACTION: Basil to setup bug triage times to help with release/feature scheduling.

= Earlier Meeting Notes =
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Apr 2008-Jun 2008|Archive April 2008-June 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Nov 07-Mar 2008|Archive November 2007-March 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2007|Archive October-November 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2007|Archive August-September 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Dec-Jul 2007|Archive December 2006-July 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2006|Archive October-November 2006]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2006|Archive August-September 2006]]

AMO:Meeting Notes

2008-08-20T18:02:33Z

Bhashem: /* Common AMO Bugzilla Queries */

[[Update:Remora|« Back to Update:Remora]]

== AMO Project Meeting Details ==
<pre>
Wednesdays, 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern
1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) or 1-650-215-1282 or 1-650-903-0800
Conferencing Center: x91
Conference ID: 261</pre>

== Common AMO Bugzilla Queries ==
* AMO 3.4.7 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.4.7&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.4.7&query_based_on=AMO-3.4.7&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.4.7&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.4.7&query_based_on=AMO3.4.7-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 3.5 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs]
* AMO 4.0.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO4.0.1-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''
* AMO 3.5.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5.1&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, TBD (11:59pm), push: Thu, TBD'''

__TOC__

== Aug 20th ==
* AMO 3.4.7 release status - Wil will tag and file the push bug
* Release cycle - Morgamic is proposing a 3-week cycle to prevent last minute crunches and focusing on the push rather than starting the next dev cycle. Proposal to follow.
* TRUSTe proposal in hand
* Next maintenance release will be 3.5.1 - schedule above.
* 4.0.1 only has 1 perf-related bug
* Firefox Major Update readiness
* AMO 3.5
** Preview manager was finished a couple weeks ago and Stephen has been QA'ing it and catching a few bugs that have now been fixed. The status changer is mostly finished, and that will be followed by the upload/submission tool which already has the backend done.
* Bandwagon
** We have mockups to go off of now thanks to Boriss, so Brian King and team will start working on the first milestone which is purely extension development. Milestone 2 will begin to require webdev assistance from both website and API standpoints. Again, if you're interested in this project, just let Fligtar know and he'll add you to the Grouphub where the updated detailed schedule and requirements will be posted.
* IKEA
** Fligtar went to IKEA today for the first time ever and is in love.

[http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff218/patyguaxupe/te-amo.jpg Image of the week]

== Aug 13th ==
* Review release status
** What's the schedule for 3.5? Answer: Awaiting Fligtar's return tomorrow, same status as last week - ETA for completion of Dev Tools is next Fri 8/22, then we need time for QA + L10N work and a push during a Sept maintenance window.
* Discussed [http://www.conduit.com Conduit]. Considering a controlled, limited return of a few Conduit toolbars to AMO.
* Discussed [http://www.TRUSTe.org TRUSTe]. Discussing with TRUSTe about a tiered certification program for add-ons and add-on authors
* Thank you and Farewell to Cesar! (XPI Diff launched, yeah! MyLists needs to find an SVN home)
* Discuss [[Update:Remora/Discussions_Revamp|discussions revamp]] - timeline for this? (Not 3.4.7 since we're still planning).
* Can we do a broadcast email to nom queue folks? Yes, Cesar to help out with the query.

== Aug 6th ==
* Three parallel releases - 3.4.7 (features/bug fixes), 4.0.1 (performance) and 3.5 (dev tools)
* AMO 3.4.7
** Enable Vanilla discussions? ACTION: Laura will build wiki page and we'll dump Vanilla for a custom system.
** '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 4.0.1
** {VERY Tentative: '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''}
* AMO 3.5 Status
** Status Manager in progress, Upload Manager remains to be done. ETA is Fri, 8/22 for code complete, need time for QA, L10N. Public push date in Sep to give time for L10N. (Justin has vacation time)
* Push for this Thu, 8/7? (XPI Differ, other?)
* Starting work on "Bandwagon" (Add-on Sharing)

== July 30th ==
* No meeting due to Firefox Summit

== July 23rd ==
* AMO 3.4.6 - how are we doing?
** Enable Vanilla Discussions?
** Replace Vanilla by a simple forum we make ourselves? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Discuss AMO/Add-ons session @ [[Summit2008/Sessions/Schedule|Fx Summit]]
* Next week's meeting?

== July 16th ==
* AMO 3.4.6 status
* Justin to walk thru the "Add-on Sharing Proposal"
* No love from Urchin - still missing data from launch (escalated), last few days are at half of total. :-(
** Sounds like {{bug|444948}} -- the SJ AMO logs were moved to a different directory and they didn't update Urchin. -flig
* rdoherty, are you willing to take on {{bug|434540}}? (yes)
* 1 or 2 stability releases? (rdoherty)

== July 9th ==
* Readiness for AMO 3.4.5 release on Thu, 7/10 evening
* AMO 3.4.6 - '''Code Freeze - 7/21 (11:59pm), push: 7/24'''
* Offer extended to AMO Community Manager
* Metrics:
** Pageviews spike from Fx3 is waning...seeing 6M PV's now
** Ping & Download counts are trending downwards according to Moz dashboard - checking with IT for possible causes
* Performance branch testing & merging - need to determine which release it can be merged with.
* ACTION: Wil will tag and <s>justin to file an IT ticket</s> - {{bug|444378}}

== July 2nd ==
* Determine new AMO 3.4.5 dates - Candi-dates: '''Code Freeze: 7/7, Push: 7/10'''
** stephend on vacation from 7/7-7/11 (bug verifications graciously covered by juanb and ss - thanks guys!)
** Fx3 users are still suffering under {{bug|437174}} (error 261), and will continue so until a Firefox update is released. Should we add a message to the install button, linking to a wiki page (or so) explaining that they need to switch on third-party cookies if they receive this error? This would only show when logged in, for experimental add-ons. --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Urchin is back up (sorta), we have about 8M daily page views (about 2x what we had prior to Fx 3 launch)
* Draft Q3 goals for discussion:
** Launch three AMO dot releases / execute to [[Update:Roadmap|roadmap]] & triaged bug lists (with webdev)
** Rollout at least one end user engagement project
** Conduct Add-on Developer Survey
** Rollout revised AMO Developer Tools (with webdev)
** Move site metrics to Urchin 6 (with IT)
** Prototype a Pentaho-based AMO dashboard (with IT)
* Draft terms of service available for moz.com/moz.org, need to add AMO API and AMO user-specific conditional sections. Outside legal is working on it.
* Rotated the reco list - [http://blog.mozilla.com/basil/2008/07/01/featured-add-ons-rotation-for-july-2008/ blogged about it]
* ACTION: Basil to setup bug triage times to help with release/feature scheduling.

= Earlier Meeting Notes =
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Apr 2008-Jun 2008|Archive April 2008-June 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Nov 07-Mar 2008|Archive November 2007-March 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2007|Archive October-November 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2007|Archive August-September 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Dec-Jul 2007|Archive December 2006-July 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2006|Archive October-November 2006]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2006|Archive August-September 2006]]

AMO:Meeting Notes

2008-08-20T17:25:58Z

Bhashem: /* Common AMO Bugzilla Queries */

[[Update:Remora|« Back to Update:Remora]]

== AMO Project Meeting Details ==
<pre>
Wednesdays, 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern
1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) or 1-650-215-1282 or 1-650-903-0800
Conferencing Center: x91
Conference ID: 261</pre>

== Common AMO Bugzilla Queries ==
* AMO 3.4.7 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.4.7&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.4.7&query_based_on=AMO-3.4.7&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.4.7&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.4.7&query_based_on=AMO3.4.7-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 3.5 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs]
* AMO 4.0.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO4.0.1-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''
* AMO 3.5.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5.1&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, 9/15 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 9/18'''

__TOC__

== Aug 20th ==
* AMO 3.4.7 release status - Wil will tag and file the push bug
* Release cycle - Morgamic is proposing a 3-week cycle to prevent last minute crunches and focusing on the push rather than starting the next dev cycle. Proposal to follow.
* TRUSTe proposal in hand
* Next maintenance release will be 3.5.1 - schedule above.
* 4.0.1 only has 1 perf-related bug
* Firefox Major Update readiness
* AMO 3.5
** Preview manager was finished a couple weeks ago and Stephen has been QA'ing it and catching a few bugs that have now been fixed. The status changer is mostly finished, and that will be followed by the upload/submission tool which already has the backend done.
* Bandwagon
** We have mockups to go off of now thanks to Boriss, so Brian King and team will start working on the first milestone which is purely extension development. Milestone 2 will begin to require webdev assistance from both website and API standpoints. Again, if you're interested in this project, just let Fligtar know and he'll add you to the Grouphub where the updated detailed schedule and requirements will be posted.
* IKEA
** Fligtar went to IKEA today for the first time ever and is in love.

[http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff218/patyguaxupe/te-amo.jpg Image of the week]

== Aug 13th ==
* Review release status
** What's the schedule for 3.5? Answer: Awaiting Fligtar's return tomorrow, same status as last week - ETA for completion of Dev Tools is next Fri 8/22, then we need time for QA + L10N work and a push during a Sept maintenance window.
* Discussed [http://www.conduit.com Conduit]. Considering a controlled, limited return of a few Conduit toolbars to AMO.
* Discussed [http://www.TRUSTe.org TRUSTe]. Discussing with TRUSTe about a tiered certification program for add-ons and add-on authors
* Thank you and Farewell to Cesar! (XPI Diff launched, yeah! MyLists needs to find an SVN home)
* Discuss [[Update:Remora/Discussions_Revamp|discussions revamp]] - timeline for this? (Not 3.4.7 since we're still planning).
* Can we do a broadcast email to nom queue folks? Yes, Cesar to help out with the query.

== Aug 6th ==
* Three parallel releases - 3.4.7 (features/bug fixes), 4.0.1 (performance) and 3.5 (dev tools)
* AMO 3.4.7
** Enable Vanilla discussions? ACTION: Laura will build wiki page and we'll dump Vanilla for a custom system.
** '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 4.0.1
** {VERY Tentative: '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''}
* AMO 3.5 Status
** Status Manager in progress, Upload Manager remains to be done. ETA is Fri, 8/22 for code complete, need time for QA, L10N. Public push date in Sep to give time for L10N. (Justin has vacation time)
* Push for this Thu, 8/7? (XPI Differ, other?)
* Starting work on "Bandwagon" (Add-on Sharing)

== July 30th ==
* No meeting due to Firefox Summit

== July 23rd ==
* AMO 3.4.6 - how are we doing?
** Enable Vanilla Discussions?
** Replace Vanilla by a simple forum we make ourselves? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Discuss AMO/Add-ons session @ [[Summit2008/Sessions/Schedule|Fx Summit]]
* Next week's meeting?

== July 16th ==
* AMO 3.4.6 status
* Justin to walk thru the "Add-on Sharing Proposal"
* No love from Urchin - still missing data from launch (escalated), last few days are at half of total. :-(
** Sounds like {{bug|444948}} -- the SJ AMO logs were moved to a different directory and they didn't update Urchin. -flig
* rdoherty, are you willing to take on {{bug|434540}}? (yes)
* 1 or 2 stability releases? (rdoherty)

== July 9th ==
* Readiness for AMO 3.4.5 release on Thu, 7/10 evening
* AMO 3.4.6 - '''Code Freeze - 7/21 (11:59pm), push: 7/24'''
* Offer extended to AMO Community Manager
* Metrics:
** Pageviews spike from Fx3 is waning...seeing 6M PV's now
** Ping & Download counts are trending downwards according to Moz dashboard - checking with IT for possible causes
* Performance branch testing & merging - need to determine which release it can be merged with.
* ACTION: Wil will tag and <s>justin to file an IT ticket</s> - {{bug|444378}}

== July 2nd ==
* Determine new AMO 3.4.5 dates - Candi-dates: '''Code Freeze: 7/7, Push: 7/10'''
** stephend on vacation from 7/7-7/11 (bug verifications graciously covered by juanb and ss - thanks guys!)
** Fx3 users are still suffering under {{bug|437174}} (error 261), and will continue so until a Firefox update is released. Should we add a message to the install button, linking to a wiki page (or so) explaining that they need to switch on third-party cookies if they receive this error? This would only show when logged in, for experimental add-ons. --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Urchin is back up (sorta), we have about 8M daily page views (about 2x what we had prior to Fx 3 launch)
* Draft Q3 goals for discussion:
** Launch three AMO dot releases / execute to [[Update:Roadmap|roadmap]] & triaged bug lists (with webdev)
** Rollout at least one end user engagement project
** Conduct Add-on Developer Survey
** Rollout revised AMO Developer Tools (with webdev)
** Move site metrics to Urchin 6 (with IT)
** Prototype a Pentaho-based AMO dashboard (with IT)
* Draft terms of service available for moz.com/moz.org, need to add AMO API and AMO user-specific conditional sections. Outside legal is working on it.
* Rotated the reco list - [http://blog.mozilla.com/basil/2008/07/01/featured-add-ons-rotation-for-july-2008/ blogged about it]
* ACTION: Basil to setup bug triage times to help with release/feature scheduling.

= Earlier Meeting Notes =
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Apr 2008-Jun 2008|Archive April 2008-June 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Nov 07-Mar 2008|Archive November 2007-March 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2007|Archive October-November 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2007|Archive August-September 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Dec-Jul 2007|Archive December 2006-July 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2006|Archive October-November 2006]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2006|Archive August-September 2006]]

AMO:Meeting Notes

2008-08-20T17:19:17Z

Bhashem: /* Aug 20th */

[[Update:Remora|« Back to Update:Remora]]

== AMO Project Meeting Details ==
<pre>
Wednesdays, 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern
1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) or 1-650-215-1282 or 1-650-903-0800
Conferencing Center: x91
Conference ID: 261</pre>

== Common AMO Bugzilla Queries ==
* AMO 3.4.7 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.4.7&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.4.7&query_based_on=AMO-3.4.7&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.4.7&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.4.7&query_based_on=AMO3.4.7-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 3.5 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs]
* AMO 4.0.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO4.0.1-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''
* AMO 3.5.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5.1&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, TBD (11:59pm), push: Thu, TBD'''

__TOC__

== Aug 20th ==
* AMO 3.4.7 release status - Wil will tag and file the push bug
* Release cycle - Morgamic is proposing a 3-week cycle to prevent last minute crunches and focusing on the push rather than starting the next dev cycle. Proposal to follow.
* TRUSTe proposal in hand
* Next maintenance release will be 3.5.1 - schedule above.
* 4.0.1 only has 1 perf-related bug
* Firefox Major Update readiness
* AMO 3.5
** Preview manager was finished a couple weeks ago and Stephen has been QA'ing it and catching a few bugs that have now been fixed. The status changer is mostly finished, and that will be followed by the upload/submission tool which already has the backend done.
* Bandwagon
** We have mockups to go off of now thanks to Boriss, so Brian King and team will start working on the first milestone which is purely extension development. Milestone 2 will begin to require webdev assistance from both website and API standpoints. Again, if you're interested in this project, just let Fligtar know and he'll add you to the Grouphub where the updated detailed schedule and requirements will be posted.
* IKEA
** Fligtar went to IKEA today for the first time ever and is in love.

[http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff218/patyguaxupe/te-amo.jpg Image of the week]

== Aug 13th ==
* Review release status
** What's the schedule for 3.5? Answer: Awaiting Fligtar's return tomorrow, same status as last week - ETA for completion of Dev Tools is next Fri 8/22, then we need time for QA + L10N work and a push during a Sept maintenance window.
* Discussed [http://www.conduit.com Conduit]. Considering a controlled, limited return of a few Conduit toolbars to AMO.
* Discussed [http://www.TRUSTe.org TRUSTe]. Discussing with TRUSTe about a tiered certification program for add-ons and add-on authors
* Thank you and Farewell to Cesar! (XPI Diff launched, yeah! MyLists needs to find an SVN home)
* Discuss [[Update:Remora/Discussions_Revamp|discussions revamp]] - timeline for this? (Not 3.4.7 since we're still planning).
* Can we do a broadcast email to nom queue folks? Yes, Cesar to help out with the query.

== Aug 6th ==
* Three parallel releases - 3.4.7 (features/bug fixes), 4.0.1 (performance) and 3.5 (dev tools)
* AMO 3.4.7
** Enable Vanilla discussions? ACTION: Laura will build wiki page and we'll dump Vanilla for a custom system.
** '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 4.0.1
** {VERY Tentative: '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''}
* AMO 3.5 Status
** Status Manager in progress, Upload Manager remains to be done. ETA is Fri, 8/22 for code complete, need time for QA, L10N. Public push date in Sep to give time for L10N. (Justin has vacation time)
* Push for this Thu, 8/7? (XPI Differ, other?)
* Starting work on "Bandwagon" (Add-on Sharing)

== July 30th ==
* No meeting due to Firefox Summit

== July 23rd ==
* AMO 3.4.6 - how are we doing?
** Enable Vanilla Discussions?
** Replace Vanilla by a simple forum we make ourselves? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Discuss AMO/Add-ons session @ [[Summit2008/Sessions/Schedule|Fx Summit]]
* Next week's meeting?

== July 16th ==
* AMO 3.4.6 status
* Justin to walk thru the "Add-on Sharing Proposal"
* No love from Urchin - still missing data from launch (escalated), last few days are at half of total. :-(
** Sounds like {{bug|444948}} -- the SJ AMO logs were moved to a different directory and they didn't update Urchin. -flig
* rdoherty, are you willing to take on {{bug|434540}}? (yes)
* 1 or 2 stability releases? (rdoherty)

== July 9th ==
* Readiness for AMO 3.4.5 release on Thu, 7/10 evening
* AMO 3.4.6 - '''Code Freeze - 7/21 (11:59pm), push: 7/24'''
* Offer extended to AMO Community Manager
* Metrics:
** Pageviews spike from Fx3 is waning...seeing 6M PV's now
** Ping & Download counts are trending downwards according to Moz dashboard - checking with IT for possible causes
* Performance branch testing & merging - need to determine which release it can be merged with.
* ACTION: Wil will tag and <s>justin to file an IT ticket</s> - {{bug|444378}}

== July 2nd ==
* Determine new AMO 3.4.5 dates - Candi-dates: '''Code Freeze: 7/7, Push: 7/10'''
** stephend on vacation from 7/7-7/11 (bug verifications graciously covered by juanb and ss - thanks guys!)
** Fx3 users are still suffering under {{bug|437174}} (error 261), and will continue so until a Firefox update is released. Should we add a message to the install button, linking to a wiki page (or so) explaining that they need to switch on third-party cookies if they receive this error? This would only show when logged in, for experimental add-ons. --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Urchin is back up (sorta), we have about 8M daily page views (about 2x what we had prior to Fx 3 launch)
* Draft Q3 goals for discussion:
** Launch three AMO dot releases / execute to [[Update:Roadmap|roadmap]] & triaged bug lists (with webdev)
** Rollout at least one end user engagement project
** Conduct Add-on Developer Survey
** Rollout revised AMO Developer Tools (with webdev)
** Move site metrics to Urchin 6 (with IT)
** Prototype a Pentaho-based AMO dashboard (with IT)
* Draft terms of service available for moz.com/moz.org, need to add AMO API and AMO user-specific conditional sections. Outside legal is working on it.
* Rotated the reco list - [http://blog.mozilla.com/basil/2008/07/01/featured-add-ons-rotation-for-july-2008/ blogged about it]
* ACTION: Basil to setup bug triage times to help with release/feature scheduling.

= Earlier Meeting Notes =
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Apr 2008-Jun 2008|Archive April 2008-June 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Nov 07-Mar 2008|Archive November 2007-March 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2007|Archive October-November 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2007|Archive August-September 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Dec-Jul 2007|Archive December 2006-July 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2006|Archive October-November 2006]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2006|Archive August-September 2006]]

AMO:Meeting Notes

2008-08-20T17:17:59Z

Bhashem: /* Aug 20th */

[[Update:Remora|« Back to Update:Remora]]

== AMO Project Meeting Details ==
<pre>
Wednesdays, 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern
1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) or 1-650-215-1282 or 1-650-903-0800
Conferencing Center: x91
Conference ID: 261</pre>

== Common AMO Bugzilla Queries ==
* AMO 3.4.7 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.4.7&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.4.7&query_based_on=AMO-3.4.7&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.4.7&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.4.7&query_based_on=AMO3.4.7-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 3.5 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs]
* AMO 4.0.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO-4.0.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=4.0.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO4.0.1&query_based_on=AMO4.0.1-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''
* AMO 3.5.1 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO-3.5&query_based_on=AMO-3.5.1&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= open bugs] & [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=addons.mozilla.org&target_milestone=3.5.1&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&known_name=AMO3.5.1&query_based_on=AMO3.5-fixed&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= fixed bugs] - '''Freeze - Mon, TBD (11:59pm), push: Thu, TBD'''

__TOC__

== Aug 20th ==
* AMO 3.4.7 release status - Wil will tag and file the push bug
* Release cycle - Morgamic is proposing a 3-week cycle to prevent last minute crunches and focusing on the push rather than starting the next dev cycle. Proposal to follow.
* TRUSTe proposal in hand
* 4.0.1 only has 1 perf-related bug
* Firefox Major Update readiness
* AMO 3.5
** Preview manager was finished a couple weeks ago and Stephen has been QA'ing it and catching a few bugs that have now been fixed. The status changer is mostly finished, and that will be followed by the upload/submission tool which already has the backend done.
* Bandwagon
** We have mockups to go off of now thanks to Boriss, so Brian King and team will start working on the first milestone which is purely extension development. Milestone 2 will begin to require webdev assistance from both website and API standpoints. Again, if you're interested in this project, just let Fligtar know and he'll add you to the Grouphub where the updated detailed schedule and requirements will be posted.
* IKEA
** Fligtar went to IKEA today for the first time ever and is in love.

[http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff218/patyguaxupe/te-amo.jpg Image of the week]

== Aug 13th ==
* Review release status
** What's the schedule for 3.5? Answer: Awaiting Fligtar's return tomorrow, same status as last week - ETA for completion of Dev Tools is next Fri 8/22, then we need time for QA + L10N work and a push during a Sept maintenance window.
* Discussed [http://www.conduit.com Conduit]. Considering a controlled, limited return of a few Conduit toolbars to AMO.
* Discussed [http://www.TRUSTe.org TRUSTe]. Discussing with TRUSTe about a tiered certification program for add-ons and add-on authors
* Thank you and Farewell to Cesar! (XPI Diff launched, yeah! MyLists needs to find an SVN home)
* Discuss [[Update:Remora/Discussions_Revamp|discussions revamp]] - timeline for this? (Not 3.4.7 since we're still planning).
* Can we do a broadcast email to nom queue folks? Yes, Cesar to help out with the query.

== Aug 6th ==
* Three parallel releases - 3.4.7 (features/bug fixes), 4.0.1 (performance) and 3.5 (dev tools)
* AMO 3.4.7
** Enable Vanilla discussions? ACTION: Laura will build wiki page and we'll dump Vanilla for a custom system.
** '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/18 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/21'''
* AMO 4.0.1
** {VERY Tentative: '''Code Freeze - Mon, 8/25 (11:59pm), push: Thu, 8/28'''}
* AMO 3.5 Status
** Status Manager in progress, Upload Manager remains to be done. ETA is Fri, 8/22 for code complete, need time for QA, L10N. Public push date in Sep to give time for L10N. (Justin has vacation time)
* Push for this Thu, 8/7? (XPI Differ, other?)
* Starting work on "Bandwagon" (Add-on Sharing)

== July 30th ==
* No meeting due to Firefox Summit

== July 23rd ==
* AMO 3.4.6 - how are we doing?
** Enable Vanilla Discussions?
** Replace Vanilla by a simple forum we make ourselves? --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Discuss AMO/Add-ons session @ [[Summit2008/Sessions/Schedule|Fx Summit]]
* Next week's meeting?

== July 16th ==
* AMO 3.4.6 status
* Justin to walk thru the "Add-on Sharing Proposal"
* No love from Urchin - still missing data from launch (escalated), last few days are at half of total. :-(
** Sounds like {{bug|444948}} -- the SJ AMO logs were moved to a different directory and they didn't update Urchin. -flig
* rdoherty, are you willing to take on {{bug|434540}}? (yes)
* 1 or 2 stability releases? (rdoherty)

== July 9th ==
* Readiness for AMO 3.4.5 release on Thu, 7/10 evening
* AMO 3.4.6 - '''Code Freeze - 7/21 (11:59pm), push: 7/24'''
* Offer extended to AMO Community Manager
* Metrics:
** Pageviews spike from Fx3 is waning...seeing 6M PV's now
** Ping & Download counts are trending downwards according to Moz dashboard - checking with IT for possible causes
* Performance branch testing & merging - need to determine which release it can be merged with.
* ACTION: Wil will tag and <s>justin to file an IT ticket</s> - {{bug|444378}}

== July 2nd ==
* Determine new AMO 3.4.5 dates - Candi-dates: '''Code Freeze: 7/7, Push: 7/10'''
** stephend on vacation from 7/7-7/11 (bug verifications graciously covered by juanb and ss - thanks guys!)
** Fx3 users are still suffering under {{bug|437174}} (error 261), and will continue so until a Firefox update is released. Should we add a message to the install button, linking to a wiki page (or so) explaining that they need to switch on third-party cookies if they receive this error? This would only show when logged in, for experimental add-ons. --[[User:Wenzel|wenzel]]
* Urchin is back up (sorta), we have about 8M daily page views (about 2x what we had prior to Fx 3 launch)
* Draft Q3 goals for discussion:
** Launch three AMO dot releases / execute to [[Update:Roadmap|roadmap]] & triaged bug lists (with webdev)
** Rollout at least one end user engagement project
** Conduct Add-on Developer Survey
** Rollout revised AMO Developer Tools (with webdev)
** Move site metrics to Urchin 6 (with IT)
** Prototype a Pentaho-based AMO dashboard (with IT)
* Draft terms of service available for moz.com/moz.org, need to add AMO API and AMO user-specific conditional sections. Outside legal is working on it.
* Rotated the reco list - [http://blog.mozilla.com/basil/2008/07/01/featured-add-ons-rotation-for-july-2008/ blogged about it]
* ACTION: Basil to setup bug triage times to help with release/feature scheduling.

= Earlier Meeting Notes =
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Apr 2008-Jun 2008|Archive April 2008-June 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Nov 07-Mar 2008|Archive November 2007-March 2008]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2007|Archive October-November 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2007|Archive August-September 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Dec-Jul 2007|Archive December 2006-July 2007]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2006|Archive October-November 2006]]
* [[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2006|Archive August-September 2006]]