{{Grendel}}

==Checking out Grendel source code==

To checkout Grendel source code, make sure you have a copy of [http://www.cvshome.org CVS] and that it's in your path. Then run the following commands:

<pre>set CVSROOT=:pserver:anonymous@cvs-mirror.mozilla.org:/cvsroot
cvs login
(use password "anonymous")
cvs -z3 -q co -P mozilla/grendel</pre>

==Building Grendel==

# Make sure you have the required (external) packages (see [[Grendel:Libraries|Libraries]]).
# Copy the jars to the extlib directory. With OROMatcher, you'll have to create the jar yourself from the binaries in the OROMatcher distribution. To do this, unpack the OROMatcher distribution and cd to the top directory, then run 'jar cvf OROMatcher.jar com'. Copy the resulting OROMatcher.jar to the extlib directory in here. '''If you want, you can download the [http://mirrors.trfenv.com/rlk/grendel-jar-pack.zip Grendel Library Pack] to get a copy of all of the libraries needed to be put in this directory'''.
# Type 'ant build' and go get a cup of coffee or something. Grendel takes a little while to build.
# Binaries and application resources will now be in dist.
# Go the the dist directory by typing 'cd dist' and then type 'java grendel.Main' and test that Grendel works. If everything built successfully, it should.
# If you want to make an executable jar to package up all the application's classes (minus the external libraries), type 'ant jar'. Once you've done that, you can type 'java -jar Grendel.jar' and it should run Grendel for you.
# To clean out the dist directory of all build products, type 'ant clean'.

==Note to Mac users==
We are no longer supporting JDK 1.4.x, so Grendel will not run on MacOS 10.2 or earlier. You'll have to upgrade to Mac OS 10.3 if you want to run Grendel.

Happy haquing!

2005-05-06T18:38:05Z

Rjkeller:

{{Grendel}}
There are still a number of issues to be worked on before it can be called a useful mailer. Grendel is usable right now, though some necessary features haven't been implemented yet.

==General==

* Move to XUL instead of Grendel-specific XML format. ([https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=293079 Bug 293079])
* Build system moved to Ant ([https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=292916 Bug 292916])
* Resources contained in resources-specific directory instead of flying all over the place.
* Nightly builds in 2 steps max (part of ant changes in [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=292916 Bug 292916])

==News==

* State Keeping (.newsrc file)
* Caching
* Improved news server compatibility
* Posting capability

==POP3==

* Downloading POP mail to local store
* Statekeeping for "leave mail on server" user pref
* Caching for remotely viewed POP mail

==IMAP==

* Caching

==UI==
* Drag & Drop conversion from builtin grendel.dnd to Java 2 java.awt.dnd, or vast improvements in the builtin grendel.dnd code.

==HTML Message Viewing==
* Lots of issues. Lots more to be done.

==Stuff not yet implemented==
* Receiving attachments
* Message Search
* Message Filters

Addressbook also needs improvements.

2005-04-28T02:09:06Z

Rjkeller: /* MozCreator */

There seem to be many projects around to create a development environment up for XUL. I was under the impression that most of the were dead, but reading in the recent days tells me that I wasn't completely right.

I call on developers of those tools to take a minute or two and describe what their tool is, which platform it has, target audience, development team, status etc.

Overall comments are probably directed best to [news://news.mozilla.org:119/netscape.public.dev.xul n.p.d.xul].

== Blogosphere ==
[http://www.axel-hecht.de/blog/archives/000162.html Re: Eclipsing Firefox (AxelHecht)]

[http://rjkeller.blogspot.com/2004/12/java-xul-parser.html Java XUL Parser? (RJ Keller)]

== Existing Projects ==
=== XulApp ===
Project owner: Peter Wilson - single developer.
The project is hosted on http://xulapp.mozdev.org/

The orginal XulApp version was a prototype incorporating a Project Explorer and drag and drop Form Designer. I also experimented with various forms of source and xml editors. This was originally developed in 2002. For several reasons the project went into hibernation. I have recently posted a revised version - minus bit rot.

A new version is now under development. This will be a complete redesign based as an XulRunner application. It is being designed in a modular fashion using FF extensions.

I am aiming for an extensible Project Explorer which can launch any number of installed tools. I am also hoping to integrate the Explorer with the Subversion source control system.

Currently, I have the IDE shell, project creation and project explorer working. I expect to upload some results within the next few days.

Also part of this development is a new Javascript library called XaLib.
This includes the usual stuff, but also some new goodies:
*1. File/Directory/Zip handling in a unified manner.
*2. A SPARQL RDF query engine.
*3. A RDFTemplate processor which can convert Javascript objects into RDF. This can also be used in conjunction with item 2.
*4. A mru widget to implement most recently used file menu handling.
*5. A really simple way to access widgets from JS. Goodbye to getElementById.
*6. UUID generator (type 1, random node).

=== MozCreator ===
[updated by rjkeller - April 27, 2005]

Java-based Mozilla Development Environment. Currently can build JAR files and Firefox extensions. Tabbed environment and draggable GUI. Automatically generates content.rdf files. Requires Java 1.5.

I (R.J. Keller) have yet to update my more recent code on CVS and post a nightly build. Recent internal builds (should be up soon?) includes a [http://www.rj.pcblaze.com/mozcreator/screenshots/mozcreator_20050425.jpg GUI editor prototype] and support for using my Java XUL parser in a MozCreator project which I whipped up real quick.

We should be coming up to a M2 release really soon. I’m waiting a bit on more hard-core XUL app building (with C++, etc.) until we have a XUL Runner release.

New features we're planning on implementing (first ones will be implemented first):
1) GUI editor (already partially implemented)
2) Run compiled applications w/ XUL Runner
3) Syntax highlighting
4) Debugger (or integration with Mozilla XUL JS Debugger)
5) Code completion
6) Dockable GUI (like Visual Studio .NET)
7) Some kind of API browser

Need Java programmers REALLY bad. If you’re interested, send mail to [mailto:rj.keller@beonex.com rj.keller@beonex.com]

== Other ideas ==

=== Solid (working title) ===

Solid (working title) is my pet thought of the day. It mostly vapour right now, though I have a somewhat working wizard to create xulrunner applications from scratch, just that xulrunner wouldn't run them right now. Oh, and that the code is pretty bad, I need to give it a MVC whacking. Though I gave it the l10n whacking already.

The name is pretty close to XUL IDE, and pretty far from the state of the code.

The best I can tell about it right now are a few (potential) scenarios that one (not necessarily I) could implement.
* creating xulrunner apps via a wizard (done up to refactoring)
* add a UI page, window, dialog, overlay
* add a translation
* add markers to translations for which another locale has had changes, on cvs check out, too (should be fairly easy)
* port over something like [http://www.croczilla.com/jssh jssh] to implement debugging

I hope that I can reuse editors for XML, js, DTDs and property files to some extent, but this needs to be evaluated.

=== Komodo ===

[http://www.activestate.com/Products/Komodo/ What about ActiveState Komodo]?

According to http://vanx.org/next_meeting.htm it seems like they are using it for Application Development

SeaMonkey:Reasons

2005-03-15T02:48:28Z

Rjkeller: R.J. Keller - adding me so my chunk gets in

SeaMonkey/Supporters

2005-03-07T15:32:40Z

Rjkeller:

Here a list of supporters is kept. Everyone who wants to support the Suite is welcome to enter his name here.

Please try to keep the list in alphabetical order.

{| border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5" style="border-collapse:collapse; width:100%;"
! Name
! What I could do...
|-
| Book, Carsten [mailto:carstenbook@yahoo.de ]
| I could do some QA, Creating HelpFiles, Documentation.
|-
| Borggraefe, Stefan [mailto:Stefan.Borggraefe@gmx.de ]
| Make new core features available to the SeaMonkey frontend, fix frontend bugs.
|-
| Hauner, Adam [mailto:aha@czilla.cz ]
| Bug triage, testing.
|-
| Keller, R.J. [mailto:rj.keller@beonex.com ] [http://rj.pcblaze.com/ ]
| I'd like to rewrite most of the Help Viewer and Help documentation and maybe find a way to integrate the Firefox/XUL toolkit into Seamonkey.
|-
|-
| Reimer, Manuel [mailto:mreimer@despammed.com ][http://www.mreimer.de.sr/ ]
| With my current knowledge I could do some work at XUL and Javascript.
|-
| Weilbacher, Peter [mailto:mozilla@Weilbacher.org ][http://weilbacher.org/Mozilla/ ]
| To date I have produced a few XUL/JS patches as well as some in C/C++ (mainly on OS/2).
|}