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		<title>Marcia: Created page with &quot; January 16, 2013    Every Weds @ 1:30p Pacific Time - Mozilla HQ, Warp Core   # Vidyo:  https://v.mozilla.com/flex.html?roomdirect.html&amp;key=nL4PESn1IaVh        Phone:  +1 650 90...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot; January 16, 2013    Every Weds @ 1:30p Pacific Time - Mozilla HQ, Warp Core   # Vidyo:  https://v.mozilla.com/flex.html?roomdirect.html&amp;amp;key=nL4PESn1IaVh        Phone:  +1 650 90...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt; January 16, 2013&lt;br /&gt;
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 Every Weds @ 1:30p Pacific Time - Mozilla HQ, Warp Core &lt;br /&gt;
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      Phone:  +1 650 903 0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 9245 (US/INTL)&lt;br /&gt;
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 #         +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 9245 (US Toll Free)&lt;br /&gt;
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 # IRC:    irc://irc.mozilla.org:6697/#qa&lt;br /&gt;
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QA Org Items&lt;br /&gt;
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    New Hires &amp;amp; Interviews &lt;br /&gt;
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    Luqman Aden&lt;br /&gt;
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    Upcoming Events/Conferences &lt;br /&gt;
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    jammink at mobile web devcon 1/31  &lt;br /&gt;
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    Dave/Henrik: Feb 1 - Feb 3 at FOSDEM in Brussels ( https://fosdem.org/2013/ )&lt;br /&gt;
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    MWC - end of Feb (no QA representation at this time)&lt;br /&gt;
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    Notices&lt;br /&gt;
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Travel / PTO&lt;br /&gt;
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    ashughes: Jan 20-28 (see Juan for Desktop Firefox issues)&lt;br /&gt;
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    rbillings: Feb 6-11&lt;br /&gt;
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    jammink in surgery - and week of recovery possibly after 1/22&lt;br /&gt;
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    mwobensmith: Jan 27- Feb 1 - Toronto FF work week (pending decision)&lt;br /&gt;
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    kbrosnan: Jan 28&lt;br /&gt;
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QA Team Updates&lt;br /&gt;
Desktop (Juan)&lt;br /&gt;
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    Firefox &lt;br /&gt;
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    19.0b2 on schedule for this week&lt;br /&gt;
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    18.0.1 on schedule for Friday&lt;br /&gt;
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    ESR (ashughes) &lt;br /&gt;
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    Stability (marcia) &lt;br /&gt;
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    https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/2013-01-15#Stability_Report_.5BWeekly.5D&lt;br /&gt;
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    Automation (ashughes)&lt;br /&gt;
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    Sync Client (Tracy) &lt;br /&gt;
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    Bug triage in front of Sync 2.0 work has been happening. I&amp;#039;ve been following up where needed.&lt;br /&gt;
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    Community &lt;br /&gt;
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Mobile (Tony) &lt;br /&gt;
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    Fennec (Kevin/Aaron) &lt;br /&gt;
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    Heads down on MWC benchmarking&lt;br /&gt;
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    19.0b2 on schedule for this week&lt;br /&gt;
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    Making good progress on robocop tests&lt;br /&gt;
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    Stability (nhirata) &lt;br /&gt;
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    see Crashkill notes : https://wiki.mozilla.org/CrashKill/2013-01-14#Mobile&lt;br /&gt;
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    made some progress on flash crashers&lt;br /&gt;
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    B2G (Geo/jhammink) &lt;br /&gt;
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    Big Thanks to everyone that contributed to the testing efforts this weekend!&lt;br /&gt;
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    https://etherpad.mozilla.org/B2G-Weekend-Work&lt;br /&gt;
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    Completed testrun 2 - reverified bugs against 1/15 build and 12/5 kernel&lt;br /&gt;
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    Need to revisit invalids and get some testcases rewritten before testrun 3&lt;br /&gt;
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    Stability (nhirata)&lt;br /&gt;
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    see Crashkill notes: https://wiki.mozilla.org/CrashKill/2013-01-14#B2G&lt;br /&gt;
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    UXBranch (nhirata): &lt;br /&gt;
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    some changes coming in to the building blocks, please check around your areas.&lt;br /&gt;
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    Post Mortem?&lt;br /&gt;
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    Apps (Jason) &lt;br /&gt;
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    App Install &amp;amp; Perms undergoing final testing, but doesn&amp;#039;t look too bad after the work week&lt;br /&gt;
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    App Updates is still &amp;quot;briddle&amp;quot; implementation wise - lots of basic flows not working&lt;br /&gt;
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    Biggest focus - get app updates working&lt;br /&gt;
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    Community Members Onboarding&lt;br /&gt;
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Services (jrgm) &lt;br /&gt;
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    Sync Server (jrgm) - https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Sync/&lt;br /&gt;
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    There was a small server change that went out last Wednesday evening during an announced maintenance window. (tracy)&lt;br /&gt;
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    BrowserID (jrgm) - https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/BrowserID&lt;br /&gt;
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    work on b2g native&lt;br /&gt;
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    next train with &amp;quot;bigtent&amp;quot; is train-2013.01.18&lt;br /&gt;
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    Hiring and Training &lt;br /&gt;
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    interview tomorrow; phone screens continuing&lt;br /&gt;
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Web (Stephen)  &lt;br /&gt;
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    Co-hosted a Selenium workshop with Sauce Labs on Sunday:&lt;br /&gt;
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    http://seworkshop.eventbrite.com/&lt;br /&gt;
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    Part 1: https://air.mozilla.org/automated-testing/&lt;br /&gt;
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    Part 2: https://air.mozilla.org/getting-the-most-out-of-automated-testing-part-2/&lt;br /&gt;
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    Web QA&amp;#039;s work week is in full swing: http://lanyrd.com/2013/mozilla-web-qa-q1-work-week/&lt;br /&gt;
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    Zac presented last night at the Selenium Meetup:&lt;br /&gt;
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    http://www.meetup.com/seleniumsanfrancisco/events/98453302/&lt;br /&gt;
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    Affiliates &lt;br /&gt;
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    Has moved to Chief for deploys - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789051&lt;br /&gt;
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    B2G/Gaia testing: &lt;br /&gt;
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    https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=829566 - marionette.tap() is triggering both click &amp;amp; tap events for the same element in dialer app has landed, and we&amp;#039;re working through pulls which fix tests:&lt;br /&gt;
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    https://github.com/mozilla/gaia-ui-tests/pulls&lt;br /&gt;
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    Engagement Projects &lt;br /&gt;
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    Firefox Flicks R1 is in QA&lt;br /&gt;
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    https://firefoxflicks-dev.allizom.org/en-US/&lt;br /&gt;
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    Firefox Marketplace &lt;br /&gt;
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    Payments testing is in progress.&lt;br /&gt;
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    This week&amp;#039;s release: http://cl.ly/0q0I1s3l1u1j&lt;br /&gt;
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    Mozilla.com &lt;br /&gt;
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    pushed updates to https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/compare/56cf51fafccf6c2f0d008a94e0569cd6841400bd&lt;br /&gt;
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    working on MWC pages for mozilla.org&lt;br /&gt;
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    Mozillians &lt;br /&gt;
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    A new team is transitioning onto the project&lt;br /&gt;
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    Longterm project planning is in process&lt;br /&gt;
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    MDN &lt;br /&gt;
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    scheduled push for 01/17&lt;br /&gt;
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    http://scrumbu.gs/t/mdn/2013-01-11/&lt;br /&gt;
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    Socorro &lt;br /&gt;
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    Milestone 34 slated for release tomorrow - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced;target_milestone=34;product=Socorro;list_id=5409026&lt;br /&gt;
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    2013-01-17, 5pm - 7pm PT: The frontend UI will be offline tomorrow for server maintenace&lt;br /&gt;
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    Community Members Onboarding&lt;br /&gt;
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    Spoke to one of our contributors, casschin, last night at the Selenium Meetup, about how he uses Web QA&amp;#039;s tests and framework:&lt;br /&gt;
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    https://github.com/casschin&lt;br /&gt;
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Community (Marcia)&lt;br /&gt;
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    Projects &lt;br /&gt;
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    One and Done Project - https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Taskboard&lt;br /&gt;
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    Brownbag scheduled for January 22 in Ten Forward&lt;br /&gt;
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    QA Homework assignment: Each team to come up with a set of 5 must haves before next week&amp;#039;s Brownbag: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/User-Stories-One-and-Done&lt;br /&gt;
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    We will discuss further at the January 23rd QA staff meeting&lt;br /&gt;
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    Gear Store Update - Important Feedback needed&lt;br /&gt;
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    Please see email to QA staff&lt;br /&gt;
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    Spreadsheet must be updated by January 18th&lt;br /&gt;
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    The Gear Store will not have a web interface but will be managed via a Bugzilla form&lt;br /&gt;
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    QA specific contributor gear&lt;br /&gt;
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    Is there interest in designing a specific item to deploy to QA core community members?&lt;br /&gt;
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    Upcoming Events &lt;br /&gt;
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    January 22: One and Done Project Brownbag - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=831415&lt;br /&gt;
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    Testdays (ashughes)&lt;br /&gt;
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    Fri, Jan 18: PDF.js Testday&lt;br /&gt;
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    https://quality.mozilla.org/2013/01/show-pdf-inline-testday-january-18th-2013/&lt;br /&gt;
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    Video Work&lt;br /&gt;
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    No update this week&lt;br /&gt;
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    QMO.next (Raymond)&lt;br /&gt;
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    pushed updates to QMO last week&lt;br /&gt;
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    talked to Craigcook about implementing some of Satdav&amp;#039;s suggestions&lt;br /&gt;
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    Community Members Onboarding&lt;br /&gt;
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Automation Development (Henrik, Dave)   &lt;br /&gt;
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    General&lt;br /&gt;
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    mozqa.com currently hosted at rackspace will be moved into SCL3 datacenter into our CI subnet&lt;br /&gt;
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    Projects&lt;br /&gt;
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    Mozmill&lt;br /&gt;
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    Switch to new Mozmill CI will happen later today or early tomorrow for all of our Windows and Linux boxes; still waiting for IT to deliver us the requested Mac Minis to SCL3&lt;br /&gt;
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    B2G (WebAPI, Gaia UI, others)&lt;br /&gt;
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    New blockers for ui tests detected in Marionette&lt;br /&gt;
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    https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=830240 (failure in launching/killing apps)&lt;br /&gt;
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    https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=827783 (click events sent are discarded in Gaia)&lt;br /&gt;
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    Setup two additional Unagi devices in MV&lt;br /&gt;
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    Henrik, Jgriffin, and others were working on the high B2G memory consumption issue which has been discovered by stability tests; it was caused by Marionette and is fixed now (bug 825802)&lt;br /&gt;
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    MozTrap (Cameron)&lt;br /&gt;
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    Working toward releasing MozTrap 1.4 later this week or Monday as I wrap up the current dev push on MozTrap.&lt;br /&gt;
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    I (Cameron) will transition primary focus to other A-Team projects for the rest of the quarter, working on MozTrap on an as-needed basis.&lt;br /&gt;
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    Community Members Onboarding &lt;br /&gt;
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    jfrench interested in Mozmill tests and the framework&lt;br /&gt;
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Basecamp Roundtable/Discussion Items &lt;br /&gt;
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    [jsmith] Taming those tef+ bugs, closing the doors on the release, and how you can help&lt;br /&gt;
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    [marcia] Update on blocking flags we should be using&lt;br /&gt;
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    https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/Triage#Joint_Triage_Queries (also has flags)&lt;br /&gt;
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    [tchung] next steps on post v1.0 delivery&lt;br /&gt;
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Other Roundtable/Discussion Items  &lt;br /&gt;
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    [marcia] Q1 Goal Check in - https://intranet.mozilla.org/QA/Q12013_QAgoals&lt;br /&gt;
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    [marcia] QA Team Building - will push this topic to next meeting&lt;br /&gt;
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    [henrik] We are considering to pull in the Softvision desktop automation team for Gaia UI tests - how can we make that happen?&lt;br /&gt;
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    [henrik] While we are creating new tests on MozTrap can we please make sure test data gets hosted on mozqa.com?&lt;br /&gt;
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    https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Execution/Litmus#Handling_of_Litmus_Tests&lt;br /&gt;
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    [marcia] Hiring update&lt;br /&gt;
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    [jsmith] Mobile World Congress Demo Script Testing - How QA plays a factor in here&lt;br /&gt;
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    [jsmith] WebRTC - QA involvement&lt;br /&gt;
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    [satdav] possible stream the meetings on air.mozilla.org I know its easy to do all you need to do is just file a bug for brown bag&lt;br /&gt;
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    Team decided that we would not be doing this - we will make announcements about the meeting and continue to record the meetings&lt;br /&gt;
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Notes, Takeaways and Action Items    &lt;br /&gt;
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    Today&lt;br /&gt;
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    Notes&lt;br /&gt;
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    Action Items&lt;br /&gt;
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    tchung to sent out rollup of next steps for B2G&lt;br /&gt;
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    [marcia] Please use mozqa.com for test cases since content gets out of date quickly (Documentation: https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Execution/Litmus#Handling_of_Litmus_Tests ) - Please wait until bug 831503 has been fixed&lt;br /&gt;
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    Last Meeting &lt;br /&gt;
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    Action Items &lt;br /&gt;
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Template for this document is here: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/qa-staff-template&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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