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Frg: status meeting notes

2023-05-07T12:07:01Z

status meeting notes

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	** if the direct link doesn't work, try [ircs://irc.libera.chat:6697/ ircs://irc.libera.chat:6697/] explicitly		** if the direct link doesn't work, try [ircs://irc.libera.chat:6697/ ircs://irc.libera.chat:6697/] explicitly
	* Further Read: [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/Basics\|Basics]]		* Further Read: [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/Basics\|Basics]]
	* Participants (in order of appearance):		* Participants (in order of appearance): IanN tonymec frg njsg rsx11m WG9s tomman


	== Agenda ==		== Agenda ==
	* Who's taking minutes? -> '''~~TBD~~'''		* Who's taking minutes? -> '''frg'''
	* Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:		* Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
	** '''~~TBD~~'''		** '''ewong for uploading the releases and doing infra work'''

	=== Action Items ===		=== Action Items ===
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	** This might not get fixed soon because it needs a new builder and more fixes in the source tree for later clang and rust versions.		** This might not get fixed soon because it needs a new builder and more fixes in the source tree for later clang and rust versions.
	** '''frg''' tried locally in a Rocky 8 vm and the generated symbols turned out to be incomplete.		** '''frg''' tried locally in a Rocky 8 vm and the generated symbols turned out to be incomplete.
			** We are looking into moving to bugsplat.com for crash reports.
	* The '''WGS9s''' servers are working fine and unofficial builds are being released.		* The '''WGS9s''' servers are working fine and unofficial builds are being released.
	* We have created repos at [https://foss.heptapod.net/seamonkey hg heptapod] to mirror some of our code.		* We have created repos at [https://foss.heptapod.net/seamonkey hg heptapod] to mirror some of our code.
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	** VS2022 can be installed in Server 2012 R2.		** VS2022 can be installed in Server 2012 R2.
	*** EOL for 2012 R2 is 2023.		*** EOL for 2012 R2 is 2023.
	*** ~~'''frg''' tested~~ building ~~with~~ Server ~~2016 to~~ 2022 ~~so we can switch when needed~~.		*** We will probably switch to Server 2019 (EOL 2029) for building.
			*** Depending on license cost we could also move to Server 2022.
	* The latest Windows 10 toolkit 10.0.20348 for Server 2022 causes a compile error with the mapi.h header.		* The latest Windows 10 toolkit 10.0.20348 for Server 2022 causes a compile error with the mapi.h header.
	** Recommended version is still 10.0.19041.		** Recommended version is still 10.0.19041.
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	** Native arm support for macOS and Windows is looked into for a later date.		** Native arm support for macOS and Windows is looked into for a later date.
	* CentOS 7 reaches EOL in 2024.		* CentOS 7 reaches EOL in 2024.
	** We plan to update the builder after releasing 2.53.16.		** We plan to update the builder after releasing 2.53.17.
	*** This is needed for fixing the macOS build symbols issue, later compiler support, fixing the native macOS build and python 3 support among other things.		*** This is needed for fixing the macOS build symbols issue, later compiler support, fixing the native macOS build and python 3 support among other things.
	** We prefer a rpm based distribution and will set up a Rocky 8 instance.		** We prefer a rpm based distribution and will set up a Rocky 8 instance.
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	* In {{Bug\|1674946}} it is proposed that setting security.enterprise_roots.enabled to true unconditionally should be done to avoid problems with thrid party firewalls and antivirus programs.		* In {{Bug\|1674946}} it is proposed that setting security.enterprise_roots.enabled to true unconditionally should be done to avoid problems with thrid party firewalls and antivirus programs.
	** The general opinion is that the setting should be exposed in the preferences but not make the default.		** The general opinion is that the setting should be exposed in the preferences but not make the default.
	* gtk2 and python 2 removal is being worked on.

	* Because of missing features some major websites are broken.		* Because of missing features some major websites are broken.
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	=== Extensions Tracking ===		=== Extensions Tracking ===
			+ Current and future breakage in 2.53
			** {{Bug\|1388317}} and {{Bug\|1083458}} are on the short list for backporting to 2.53. Please check and try to fix extensions still using these features.
			*** JS Parser updates for later updates are hard to do because of the obsolete syntax support still in.
			** {{Bug\|1374847}} was backported to 2.53.17b1 pre after the meeting snad and some extensions like prefbar need a simple fix.
			*** nsIPrefBranch2 and nsIPrefBranchInternal needs to be changed to nsIPrefBranch.

	* Thunderbird did discontinue classic add-ons with the ESR78 based release.		* Thunderbird did discontinue classic add-ons with the ESR78 based release.
	** Mozilla removed the last traces of classic add-ons from the Gecko source code. They can no longer be installed.		** Mozilla removed the last traces of classic add-ons from the Gecko source code. They can no longer be installed.

IanN: /* Action Items */

2023-04-16T14:09:53Z

Action Items

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	'''NEW'''		'''NEW'''
	* Remove 2.57 release from building notes.
	* —		* —

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	* We want to create a gitlab patch/fixes repo for classic XUL extensions.		* We want to create a gitlab patch/fixes repo for classic XUL extensions.
	** '''IanN''' is looking into it.		** '''IanN''' is looking into it.
			* Remove 2.57 release from building notes. Working is happening in {{Bug\|1823263}}.

	'''CLOSED'''		'''CLOSED'''

IanN: /* Action Items */

2023-04-16T13:18:37Z

Action Items

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	* '''KaiRo''' has sent all available svg and SeaMonkey image data to '''IanN''' and '''frg'''.		* '''KaiRo''' has sent all available svg and SeaMonkey image data to '''IanN''' and '''frg'''.
	** We need to find a permanent place for them to make them available at least to the core developers outside of the source tree.		** We need to find a permanent place for them to make them available at least to the core developers outside of the source tree.
	* The project areas on the website need further updates to reflect the current responsibilities after some long time developers and maintainers left the project. {{Bug\|~~1356106~~}} ~~has already been filed~~.		* The project areas on the website need further updates to reflect the current responsibilities after some long time developers and maintainers left the project. Work is happening in {{Bug\|1828328}}.
	* We want to create a gitlab patch/fixes repo for classic XUL extensions.		* We want to create a gitlab patch/fixes repo for classic XUL extensions.
	** '''IanN''' is looking into it.		** '''IanN''' is looking into it.

IanN: /* IanN */

2023-04-16T13:15:18Z

IanN

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 ==== IanN ====
 ==== njsg ====
 ==== Rainer Bielefeld ====

Frg: merge last meeting notes and frg status update

2023-04-15T22:33:32Z

merge last meeting notes and frg status update

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Rsx11m: /* Status of the SeaMonkey Source Tree */ recent merges

2023-04-14T23:12:07Z

Status of the SeaMonkey Source Tree: recent merges

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	=== Status of the SeaMonkey Source Tree ===		=== Status of the SeaMonkey Source Tree ===
	* Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: [https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=bW96aWxsYS5jb21fZGJxODRhbnI5aTh0Y25taGFiYXRzdHY1Y29AZ3JvdXAuY2FsZW5kYXIuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbQ Releases Scheduling]		* Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: [https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=bW96aWxsYS5jb21fZGJxODRhbnI5aTh0Y25taGFiYXRzdHY1Y29AZ3JvdXAuY2FsZW5kYXIuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbQ Releases Scheduling]
	** Last Merges: ~~March 13th~~, 2023		** Last Merges: April 10th, 2023
	** Next Merges: ~~April 10th~~, 2023 <!--''(not yet announced)''-->		** Next Merges: May 8th, 2023 <!--''(not yet announced)''-->
	** SeaMonkey is now at version 2.~~110a1~~ on central. Gecko is at version ~~113~~ after the merge.		** SeaMonkey is now at version 2.111a1 on central. Gecko is at version 114 after the merge.

	==== [comm-release56] ====		==== [comm-release56] ====

Rsx11m: /* SeaMonkey 2.53.x */ 2.53.16.released

2023-04-14T23:10:12Z

SeaMonkey 2.53.x: 2.53.16.released

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	[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&target_milestone=seamonkey2.53 targeted] (1)		[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&target_milestone=seamonkey2.53 targeted] (1)
	[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?o5=notequals&f1=OP&v6=fixed&o3=equals&list_id=8372932&v3=fixed&resolution=FIXED&o6=notequals&o2=equals&f4=CP&v5=fixed&query_format=advanced&j1=OR&f3=cf_status_seamonkey253&f2=target_milestone&f5=cf_status_seamonkey249&v2=2.53 fixed] (635)		[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?o5=notequals&f1=OP&v6=fixed&o3=equals&list_id=8372932&v3=fixed&resolution=FIXED&o6=notequals&o2=equals&f4=CP&v5=fixed&query_format=advanced&j1=OR&f3=cf_status_seamonkey253&f2=target_milestone&f5=cf_status_seamonkey249&v2=2.53 fixed] (635)
	* '''SeaMonkey 2.53.16 ~~Beta~~''' was released on February 28th.		* '''SeaMonkey 2.53.16''' was released on March 31st.
			* SeaMonkey 2.53.16 Beta was released on February 28th.
	** The release was tracked in {{Bug\|1795774}}.		** The release was tracked in {{Bug\|1795774}}.
	** The release notes and website updates were tracked in {{Bug\|1817653}}.		** The release notes and website updates were tracked in {{Bug\|1817653}}.

Rsx11m: /* Feature List, Planning */ many more

2023-04-14T23:08:39Z

Feature List, Planning: many more

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	* generally low activity on trunk, focus on branches towards releases		* generally low activity on trunk, focus on branches towards releases
	[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/chart.cgi?category=-All-&subcategory=-All-&name=1183&label0=SM-with-review%3F-requests&line0=1928&label1=SM-with-superreview%3F-requests&line1=1929&gt=1&labelgt=Grand+Total&datefrom=2009-07-15&dateto=&action-wrap=Chart+This+List Open reviews/flags]:		[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/chart.cgi?category=-All-&subcategory=-All-&name=1183&label0=SM-with-review%3F-requests&line0=1928&label1=SM-with-superreview%3F-requests&line1=1929&gt=1&labelgt=Grand+Total&datefrom=2009-07-15&dateto=&action-wrap=Chart+This+List Open reviews/flags]:
	[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&namedcmd=SeaMonkey%20%282%29%20/%20-All-%20/%20SM-with-review%3F-requests&series_id=1928&remaction=runseries 15 review]		[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&namedcmd=SeaMonkey%20%282%29%20/%20-All-%20/%20SM-with-review%3F-requests&series_id=1928&remaction=runseries 17 review]
	[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&namedcmd=SeaMonkey%20%282%29%20/%20-All-%20/%20SM-with-superreview%3F-requests&series_id=1929&remaction=runseries 3 super-review]		[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&namedcmd=SeaMonkey%20%282%29%20/%20-All-%20/%20SM-with-superreview%3F-requests&series_id=1929&remaction=runseries 3 super-review]
	[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=SeaMonkey&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=ui-review%3F 1 ui-review]		[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=SeaMonkey&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=ui-review%3F 1 ui-review]
	[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=SeaMonkey&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=feedback%3F 22 feedback]		[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=SeaMonkey&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=feedback%3F 26 feedback]

	* See [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/FeatureList\|Feature List]] page for major wanted/needed features.		* See [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/FeatureList\|Feature List]] page for major wanted/needed features.

Rsx11m: /* SeaMonkey 2.53.x */ one more!

2023-04-14T23:07:45Z

SeaMonkey 2.53.x: one more!

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	<!-- NOTE: Affected is set in a lot of bugs but the fixes are in the private branch already. -->		<!-- NOTE: Affected is set in a lot of bugs but the fixes are in the private branch already. -->
	[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&field0-0-0=cf_tracking_seamonkey253&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=%2B open tracking] (1)		[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&field0-0-0=cf_tracking_seamonkey253&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=%2B open tracking] (1)
	[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?&field0-0-0=cf_tracking_seamonkey253&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=%3F tracking requests] (40)		[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?&field0-0-0=cf_tracking_seamonkey253&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=%3F tracking requests] (41)
	[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&target_milestone=seamonkey2.53 targeted] (1)		[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&target_milestone=seamonkey2.53 targeted] (1)
	[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?o5=notequals&f1=OP&v6=fixed&o3=equals&list_id=8372932&v3=fixed&resolution=FIXED&o6=notequals&o2=equals&f4=CP&v5=fixed&query_format=advanced&j1=OR&f3=cf_status_seamonkey253&f2=target_milestone&f5=cf_status_seamonkey249&v2=2.53 fixed] (635)		[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?o5=notequals&f1=OP&v6=fixed&o3=equals&list_id=8372932&v3=fixed&resolution=FIXED&o6=notequals&o2=equals&f4=CP&v5=fixed&query_format=advanced&j1=OR&f3=cf_status_seamonkey253&f2=target_milestone&f5=cf_status_seamonkey249&v2=2.53 fixed] (635)

Rsx11m: copied from 2023-03-19 minutes

2023-04-14T23:06:33Z

copied from 2023-03-19 minutes

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