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Ckprice at 22:24, 29 July 2016

2016-07-29T22:24:12Z

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	Source Code: https://github.com/internetarchive/FirefoxNoMore404s		Source Code: https://github.com/internetarchive/FirefoxNoMore404s

	Contact: ~~Javaun Moradi~~		Contact: John Gruen

	== Resources ==		== Resources ==

Markgraham at 15:54, 25 May 2016

2016-05-25T15:54:13Z

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	* Firefox alternative, sends to archive page if archive.org has the 404		* Firefox alternative, sends to archive page if archive.org has the 404
	** GitHub (XPI available here: https://github.com/internetarchive/FirefoxNoMore404s		** GitHub (XPI available here): https://github.com/internetarchive/FirefoxNoMore404s
	** URLs that return a 404: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b69qmZYGL0gEYgh0g_7iconAzihTylKB4oPd-X71qhY/edit#gid=1339862914		** URLs that return a 404: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b69qmZYGL0gEYgh0g_7iconAzihTylKB4oPd-X71qhY/edit#gid=1339862914

Markgraham at 15:53, 25 May 2016

2016-05-25T15:53:39Z

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	* Firefox alternative, sends to archive page if archive.org has the 404		* Firefox alternative, sends to archive page if archive.org has the 404
	** ~~sites to sample xpi~~: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b69qmZYGL0gEYgh0g_7iconAzihTylKB4oPd-X71qhY/edit#gid=1339862914		** GitHub (XPI available here: https://github.com/internetarchive/FirefoxNoMore404s
	** GitHub: https://github.com/internetarchive/FirefoxNoMore404s		** URLs that return a 404: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b69qmZYGL0gEYgh0g_7iconAzihTylKB4oPd-X71qhY/edit#gid=1339862914

	* slide-down alternative; shows site's 404 page, slides down archive.org info if we have the 404		* slide-down alternative; shows site's 404 page, slides down archive.org info if we have the 404

Markgraham at 15:52, 25 May 2016

2016-05-25T15:52:15Z

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	* Firefox alternative, sends to archive page if archive.org has the 404		* Firefox alternative, sends to archive page if archive.org has the 404
	** xpi: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5T1SCKaYZL8STI3VWd3aTUwUmMwdHl1U3FBcTNNZmk3QzNj/
	** sites to sample xpi: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b69qmZYGL0gEYgh0g_7iconAzihTylKB4oPd-X71qhY/edit#gid=1339862914		** sites to sample xpi: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b69qmZYGL0gEYgh0g_7iconAzihTylKB4oPd-X71qhY/edit#gid=1339862914
	** GitHub: https://github.com/internetarchive/FirefoxNoMore404s		** GitHub: https://github.com/internetarchive/FirefoxNoMore404s

Markgraham at 15:51, 25 May 2016

2016-05-25T15:51:19Z

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	* Firefox alternative, sends to archive page if archive.org has the 404		* Firefox alternative, sends to archive page if archive.org has the 404
	** xpi: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5T1SCKaYZL8STI3VWd3aTUwUmMwdHl1U3FBcTNNZmk3QzNj/		** xpi: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5T1SCKaYZL8STI3VWd3aTUwUmMwdHl1U3FBcTNNZmk3QzNj/
	** sites to sample xpi: ~~http~~://~~www~~.~~pbm~~.com/~~~lindahl~~/~~404~~-~~examples.html~~		** sites to sample xpi: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b69qmZYGL0gEYgh0g_7iconAzihTylKB4oPd-X71qhY/edit#gid=1339862914
	** GitHub: https://github.com/internetarchive/FirefoxNoMore404s		** GitHub: https://github.com/internetarchive/FirefoxNoMore404s

Markgraham at 15:48, 25 May 2016

2016-05-25T15:48:40Z

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	** xpi: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5T1SCKaYZL8STI3VWd3aTUwUmMwdHl1U3FBcTNNZmk3QzNj/		** xpi: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5T1SCKaYZL8STI3VWd3aTUwUmMwdHl1U3FBcTNNZmk3QzNj/
	** sites to sample xpi: http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/404-examples.html		** sites to sample xpi: http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/404-examples.html
	** GitHub: https://github.com/~~bwinton~~/~~404archive~~		** GitHub: https://github.com/internetarchive/FirefoxNoMore404s

	* slide-down alternative; shows site's 404 page, slides down archive.org info if we have the 404		* slide-down alternative; shows site's 404 page, slides down archive.org info if we have the 404

Clouserw: /* Overview */

2016-05-24T15:50:27Z

Overview

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	The Internet Archive is interested in promoting the development, and support the operation of, browser functionality to show archived versions of web pages that are no longer available or otherwise return an error, e.g. a 404.		The Internet Archive is interested in promoting the development, and support the operation of, browser functionality to show archived versions of web pages that are no longer available or otherwise return an error, e.g. a 404.

			Source Code: https://github.com/internetarchive/FirefoxNoMore404s

			Contact: Javaun Moradi

	== Resources ==		== Resources ==

Clouserw: /* Meeting Notes */

2016-05-24T15:46:05Z

Meeting Notes

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	== Meeting Notes ==		== Meeting Notes ==

	2016-03-30		'''2016-03-30'''

	Comments from the add-on review team:		Comments from the add-on review team:
	- not using https for the web.archive.org ping		* not using https for the web.archive.org ping
	- banner is constructed using innerHTML rather than createElement, etc (script insertion, malformed html risks).		* banner is constructed using innerHTML rather than createElement, etc (script insertion, malformed html risks).
	- doesn't disable itself in private browsing mode		* doesn't disable itself in private browsing mode
	- general concern over sending https URLs to a 3rd party, but that's kind of the point, so that could be handled in messaging		* general concern over sending https URLs to a 3rd party, but that's kind of the point, so that could be handled in messaging

	Repository for code?		Repository for code?
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	https://github.com/internetarchive/ChromeNoMore404s		https://github.com/internetarchive/ChromeNoMore404s

	2016-03-24		'''2016-03-24'''

	AA NOTES:		AA NOTES:
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	[todo:?] get a 2-person pilot going		[todo:?] get a 2-person pilot going

	2016-03-14		'''2016-03-14'''
	[elvin, marshall, javaun, jgruen, ckprice]		[elvin, marshall, javaun, jgruen, ckprice]

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	[ckprice] update the dudes		[ckprice] update the dudes

	2016-03-07		'''2016-03-07'''
	[jgruen, ckprice, greg, mark]		[jgruen, ckprice, greg, mark]

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	[ckprice] circulate comments from Elvin for feedback		[ckprice] circulate comments from Elvin for feedback

	2016-03-07		'''2016-03-07'''
	[javaun, ellee, ckprice]		[javaun, ellee, ckprice]
	In addons.mozilla.org ?		In addons.mozilla.org ?
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	API SLA? traffic limits, etc.		API SLA? traffic limits, etc.

	2016-02-26 (john, cory, wil, javaun, nick, mark, greg)		'''2016-02-26'''
			(john, cory, wil, javaun, nick, mark, greg)
	[todo:greg] 404 video, links to repos (see top)		[todo:greg] 404 video, links to repos (see top)
	next steps		next steps
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	4. [jgruen] test script + launch test.		4. [jgruen] test script + launch test.

	2016-02-24 (john, cory, wil, javaun, nick)		'''2016-02-24'''
			(john, cory, wil, javaun, nick)
	[nick] can we get this document down a bit, to present in a succinct way to MC		[nick] can we get this document down a bit, to present in a succinct way to MC
	[jgruen] use pieces of survey as content for meeting [ https://docs.google.com/a/mozilla.com/forms/d/1ik_XwGc_5knDDKEmPRu8xK7qzHc-LBlZG5SmSNExod4/viewform ]		[jgruen] use pieces of survey as content for meeting [ https://docs.google.com/a/mozilla.com/forms/d/1ik_XwGc_5knDDKEmPRu8xK7qzHc-LBlZG5SmSNExod4/viewform ]

Clouserw: /* Documentation */

2016-05-24T15:43:35Z

Documentation

Clouserw: /* Resources */

2016-05-24T15:38:19Z

Resources

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	== Resources ==		== Resources ==

	~~(1)~~ Firefox alternative, sends to archive page if archive.org has the 404		* Firefox alternative, sends to archive page if archive.org has the 404
	xpi: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5T1SCKaYZL8STI3VWd3aTUwUmMwdHl1U3FBcTNNZmk3QzNj/		** xpi: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5T1SCKaYZL8STI3VWd3aTUwUmMwdHl1U3FBcTNNZmk3QzNj/
	sites to sample xpi: http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/404-examples.html		** sites to sample xpi: http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/404-examples.html
	GitHub: https://github.com/bwinton/404archive		** GitHub: https://github.com/bwinton/404archive

	~~(2)~~ slide-down alternative; shows site's 404 page, slides down archive.org info if we have the 404		* slide-down alternative; shows site's 404 page, slides down archive.org info if we have the 404
	movie of slide-down alternative in action: http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/NoMore404Example.mov or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=demZ1poPMLY		**movie of slide-down alternative in action: http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/NoMore404Example.mov or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=demZ1poPMLY
	~~(sorry about the format choices, I'm not much of a video guy!)~~		** GitHub: https://github.com/adam-miller/ChromeNoMore404s
	GitHub: https://github.com/adam-miller/ChromeNoMore404s

	~~(3) 2016-03-09 Firefox NoMore404s~~
	~~https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5T1SCKaYZL8X0dfeFlVaktVYUVlUEc5ZDFyUU9vRDhuTnRN/view?usp=sharing~~
	~~https://github.com/rchrd2/FirefoxNoMore404s~~

			* 2016-03-09 Firefox NoMore404s
			** https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5T1SCKaYZL8X0dfeFlVaktVYUVlUEc5ZDFyUU9vRDhuTnRN/view?usp=sharing
			** https://github.com/rchrd2/FirefoxNoMore404s

	== Documentation ==		== Documentation ==

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	Options we may want to consider include:		Options we may want to consider include:

	- User option of turning the feature on or off, e.g. via Preferences		* User option of turning the feature on or off, e.g. via Preferences
	- Option of prompting users before taking them to archived versions of pages		* Option of prompting users before taking them to archived versions of pages
	- Support for various 404 and broken link use cases		* Support for various 404 and broken link use cases
	- Option of letting users browse multiple versions of archived pages		* Option of letting users browse multiple versions of archived pages

	Mark Graham - Feb 18, 2016		Mark Graham - Feb 18, 2016
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	While the simple case of a requested page returning a 404 is common there are a number of edge cases in which doing the "right" thing is not so straight forward. These include, but are not limited to:		While the simple case of a requested page returning a 404 is common there are a number of edge cases in which doing the "right" thing is not so straight forward. These include, but are not limited to:

	backed up versions of URLs that have changed ownership, or use, over time		* backed up versions of URLs that have changed ownership, or use, over time
	requests that return a valid page (with a result code of 200) but present a "page not found" or other site-defined error message (in effect a "soft 404")		* requests that return a valid page (with a result code of 200) but present a "page not found" or other site-defined error message (in effect a "soft 404")
	redirects to redirects to 404 results (we will want to direct people to the version from the Wayback Machine that is from the 1st page in the chain, not the last)		* redirects to redirects to 404 results (we will want to direct people to the version from the Wayback Machine that is from the 1st page in the chain, not the last)
	redirects to valid pages from the same host but not what the users expected (e.g. to the homepage of a blog as opposed a specific blog post)		* redirects to valid pages from the same host but not what the users expected (e.g. to the homepage of a blog as opposed a specific blog post)
	requests that fail as a result of a DNS or other network breakdown (differential between transient and long-lived DNS or other networking failures)		* requests that fail as a result of a DNS or other network breakdown (differential between transient and long-lived DNS or other networking failures)
	certain special caes (e.g. geocities.com) where we can expect the user will want to see the old version of a page as opposed to the otherwise valid current version		* certain special caes (e.g. geocities.com) where we can expect the user will want to see the old version of a page as opposed to the otherwise valid current version
	pages that contain embedded resources that can not be presented (which may or may not be available or "important" enough to offer alternatives to)		* pages that contain embedded resources that can not be presented (which may or may not be available or "important" enough to offer alternatives to)
	pages that have changed ownership where of the phases of ownership have involved domain parking		* pages that have changed ownership where of the phases of ownership have involved domain parking

	A fair amount of work remains to be done to handle these conditions, and some of this will require close collaboration with browser developers to implement the functionality and interactions we have in mind. At this point we are focused on a minimum viable extension that supports:		A fair amount of work remains to be done to handle these conditions, and some of this will require close collaboration with browser developers to implement the functionality and interactions we have in mind. At this point we are focused on a minimum viable extension that supports:

	Actual 404s (ignoring most of the various edge cases shown above)		* Actual 404s (ignoring most of the various edge cases shown above)
	Offering users the option of seeing versions of pages via from the Wayback Machine, if available		* Offering users the option of seeing versions of pages via from the Wayback Machine, if available
	Display of Wayback Machine versions of pages from the 1st URL in a redirect chain		* Display of Wayback Machine versions of pages from the 1st URL in a redirect chain

	We can add more features as we get feedback from users, gain experience with how people are using the service, and as we learn more about real-world causes for people not getting the web content they are requesting and/or expecting.		We can add more features as we get feedback from users, gain experience with how people are using the service, and as we learn more about real-world causes for people not getting the web content they are requesting and/or expecting.
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	We are especially interesting in learning the following:		We are especially interesting in learning the following:

	URLs that people enter that return a 404, 503 and other defined conditions, regardless of if the user elects to request a backed-up version from the Wayback Machine		* URLs that people enter that return a 404, 503 and other defined conditions, regardless of if the user elects to request a backed-up version from the Wayback Machine
	End user's comments, bug reports and suggestions		* End user's comments, bug reports and suggestions
	Counts/time for 404s, 503, and other defined conditions		* Counts/time for 404s, 503, and other defined conditions

	== Meeting Notes ==		== Meeting Notes ==