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	== Minutes ==		== Minutes ==

			=== Actions ===

			* File bugs to get the start-up notifications for Marionette implemented for Firefox/Fennec and Thunderbird (whimboo)
			** Not done yet because there are some patches in review.
			* Talk to foolip about the Selenium log API and if they would like to spearhead standardising it (AutomatedTester)
			** Not done yet.

			=== Feedback from FOSDEM ===

			; whimboo
			: [Talks about what FOSDEM was like.]
			: There was a talk about Marionette, and it was good.
			: He was doing some work for Wikipedia [that he used Marionette for].
			: But the talk would’ve been better if it was using Selenium.
			: He mentioned that Selenium doesn’t work since Firefox 55, but I think there was a disconnect between Selenium IDE, FirefoxDriver, and geckodriver.
			: I had to clarify this.
			: He was not aware that we were phasing out marionette_driver.
			: ato has written a patch to move marionette_driver API docs to firefox-source-docs.m.o, but we should add a deprecation warning on there.
			'''ACTION whimboo:''' Add deprecation notice to marionette_driver API docs
			; ato
			: The timing here wasn’t great, because the CFP was before we made the deprecation announcement.
			; AutomatedTester
			: The most important thing is that he now has a contact.
			: We should encourage people to talk about the work that Mozilla produces.
			: At least he knows us not, or knows whimboo.
			; whimboo
			: Last question was: “Is there a way to open a new tab?”
			: Yes! I mentioned that we now have it in geckodriver and Firefox 66.
			: Last thing remaining is to update the Selenium clients.

			=== New Window API ===

			; whimboo
			: Maybe out of scope for this meeting, but perhaps we should discuss what the API should look like.
			: https://github.com/SeleniumHQ/selenium/issues/6873
			: ato wasn’t happy with the patch I did with the WPT WebDriver client.
			; AutomatedTester
			: Jim has implemented in the C# bindings, where he has <code>switch_to_new_window</code>.
			: I quite like that.
			: Hardly ever is anyone going to create a new window but not switch to it.
			: https://github.com/SeleniumHQ/selenium/blob/master/py/selenium/webdriver/remote/switch_to.py
			: https://github.com/SeleniumHQ/selenium/commit/494926783058d5bea30c71c9cd1a8f2be2deafc0#diff-85c69322756e01fd4a7a22de55e19743
			; ato
			: [Discusses differences between WPT WebDriver client and Selenium WebDriver client APIs with AutomatedTester.]
			; whimboo
			: Let me have a look at this.
			'''ACTION whimboo:''' Get the new window method implemented for the Python binding

			=== Python 3 support ===

			; whimboo
			: We don’t have Python 3 support for marionette_driver in central.
			: Python 2.7 life is coming to and end early 2020.
			: The mozbase packages are nearly there, so once that is done we could have a look.
			: If support, e.g. via six, is easy we could ship it before the last release of the client.

			=== <code>await</code> in WebDriver:{ExecuteScript,ExecuteAsyncScript} ===

			; whimboo
			: I wonder if we should get support for <code>await</code> inside the wrapped function.
			: We don’t explicitly mark the internal function we create as async.
			: Do we want to allow it?
			; ato
			: I think the expectation is that the anonymous function should work like a promise function.
			: Mike rewrote the spec prose, which was originally done by jleyba, and may have misunderstood.
			: But at least the spec now uses the W3C Promises guide correctly for its ''internal'' algorithm.
			: Christian Bromann also had the expectation that the inner wrapping function should be async when he wrote WPT tests for this.
			; whimboo
			: Should we add this to the specification?
			; ato
			: Yes, we should probably do.
			: But I don’t know how!
			; whimboo
			: I nearly got all the WPT promise tests working, but it sounds like we need a specification change here.
			; ato
			: We also want to get rid of sandboxes, but it’s not really related to conformance.
			; whimboo
			: Yeah, let’s leave that for now.

			=== geckodriver 0.24.0 release ===

			; whimboo
			: I made a release!
			: I’ve also updated the release documentation.
			: I’m now comfortable making more releases in the future.
			: I wonder how much should publicise the releases?
			; ato
			: I used to send emails to selenium-users@ and selenium-developers@, but I don’t anymore because I’ve stopped subscribing to them.
			; whimboo
			: Maybe writing a blog post?
			; ato
			: That sounds like a good idea.
			: I have written at least a couple of those in the past, but I’ve stopped.

	== Intermittents update (whimboo) ==		== Intermittents update (whimboo) ==

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pto: maybe Thursday

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	== PTO/travel (⛄️) ==		== PTO/travel (⛄️) ==

	* ato away Tuesday 5 February		* ato away Tuesday 5 February ''or'' Thursday 7 Feburary, depending on [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=protocdp protocdp] feedback

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Status updates: ato updates

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	== Status updates ==		== Status updates ==

			(Spoken status updates in bold.)

	* whimboo		* whimboo
	** '''[geckodriver] Release geckodriver 0.24.0 (Bug 1495062)'''		** '''[geckodriver] Release geckodriver 0.24.0 (Bug 1495062)'''
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	** [marionette] Fix script_timeout regressions for Execute (Async) Script since the landing of bug 1510929 (Bug 1524243)		** [marionette] Fix script_timeout regressions for Execute (Async) Script since the landing of bug 1510929 (Bug 1524243)
	** [marionette] WebDriver:{ExecuteScript,ExecuteAsyncScript} to use promises internally (Bug 1398095)		** [marionette] WebDriver:{ExecuteScript,ExecuteAsyncScript} to use promises internally (Bug 1398095)
			* ato
			** Published marionette_driver API docs to firefox-source-docs.m.o ([https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1523962 1523962])
	(~~Spoken status updates~~ in ~~bold~~.)		** Fixed incorrect nesting (i.e. <code>/marionette/marionette</code>) for geckodriver and Marionette server documentation on firefox-source-docs.m.o ([https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1523962 1523962])
			** Highlighted that path given in <code>binary</code> capability needs to be absolute on macOS (MDN and [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1524586 1524586])
			** Bug triage of Testing :: Marionette and Testing :: geckodriver

	== PTO/travel (⛄️) ==		== PTO/travel (⛄️) ==

	* ato away Tuesday 5 February		* ato away Tuesday 5 February

Whimboo: Actions update

2019-02-04T13:18:31Z

Actions update

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	== Agenda ==		== Agenda ==
			* Actions
			** File bugs to get the start-up notifications for Marionette implemented for Firefox/Fennec and Thunderbird (whimboo)
			** Talk to foolip about the Selenium log API and if they would like to spearhead standardising it (AutomatedTester)

	* Feedback from FOSDEM		* Feedback from FOSDEM
	** Talk about Marionette		** Talk about Marionette
	** Add deprecation warning to Marionette client documentation		** Add deprecation warning to Marionette client documentation
	* Allowing ''await'' in ExecuteScript and ExecuteAsyncScript even if not specified in the WebDriver spec?		* Allowing ''await'' in ExecuteScript and ExecuteAsyncScript even if not specified in the WebDriver spec?

	* Actions
	** File bugs to get the notification implemented for Firefox/Fennec and Thunderbird (whimboo)
	** Talk to foolip about the Selenium log API and if they would like to spearhead standardising it (AutomatedTester)

	== Minutes ==		== Minutes ==

Whimboo: Henrik's updates

2019-02-04T13:16:58Z

Henrik's updates

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	== Agenda ==		== Agenda ==
			* Feedback from FOSDEM
			** Talk about Marionette
			** Add deprecation warning to Marionette client documentation
			* Allowing ''await'' in ExecuteScript and ExecuteAsyncScript even if not specified in the WebDriver spec?

	* Actions		* Actions
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	== Intermittents update (whimboo) ==		== Intermittents update (whimboo) ==
			* [needs investigation] High intermittent leak in Firefox when aborting a longer page load by closing the tab with Marionette (Bug 1486101). Even after weeks it's unclear who will/can investigate it.
			* [needs investigation] The marionette client hangs 1000s due to logged channel errors from Firefox (Bug 1521447).

	== Status updates ==		== Status updates ==
			* whimboo
			** '''[geckodriver] Release geckodriver 0.24.0 (Bug 1495062)'''
			** [geckodriver] Update table structures, and support table for the geckodriver 0.24.0 release (Bug 1523913)
			** [geckodriver] Update release documentation (Bug 1523318)
			** [mdn] Added https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox/Releases/65#WebDriver_conformance_(Marionette)
			** [firefox] Created testcase for Intermittent Assertion failure: m_refCount == 1, at /builds/worker/workspace/build/src/js/src/jit/ExecutableAllocator.cpp:51 (Bug Bug 1486101)
			** [marionette] Fix script_timeout regressions for Execute (Async) Script since the landing of bug 1510929 (Bug 1524243)
			** [marionette] WebDriver:{ExecuteScript,ExecuteAsyncScript} to use promises internally (Bug 1398095)


	(Spoken status updates in bold.)		(Spoken status updates in bold.)

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== Agenda ==

* Actions
** File bugs to get the notification implemented for Firefox/Fennec and Thunderbird (whimboo)
** Talk to foolip about the Selenium log API and if they would like to spearhead standardising it (AutomatedTester)

== Minutes ==

== Intermittents update (whimboo) ==

== Status updates ==

(Spoken status updates in bold.)

== PTO/travel (⛄️) ==

* ato away Tuesday 5 February