Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2008-08-12

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Thunderbird Meeting Details

• Tuesday, Aug 12, 16:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)
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Agenda

• Who's taking minutes?

Action Items

Open

• dmose: clarifying post about how TB 3.0 roadmap should work w.r.t feature freeze, string freeze, etc.
• davida: Shredder Alpha 2 release notes bug
• sipaq: file a bug on getting a thunderbird aggregator going on
• unknown: file a bug on getting a planet.mozillamessaging.com

Closed

• dmose: Create flags/searches for beta 2 (bug 450237 filed for target milestone stuff; actual blocking 3.0b2 can probably wait since it clutters UI)
• wsmwk: posted to the l10n community about testing alpha2 builds for which there are l10n builds available.

Thunderbird:Shredder a2

• QA 3.0a2 completed, including some focus on l10n. Highlights:
  • Smoketested: XP+Vista, Mac Intel, linux, some locales. BFT: XP/Vista, linux de+en-US (wtg henry.nestler, et al!). Several locales spot checked. Nothing: Vista 64 (trunk build was smoketested), Mac PPC
  • 9 bugs filed or pending, including 1 against locale
  • 11 of 15 locales look good
  • Highly distributed, all volunteer testing is challenging as expected (compared to moco's QA "duties assigned", managed and executed by experienced "pros") :
    • In tracking and assessing end results, difficult to determine who tested how much of which tests. Don't think litmus can tell us, eg person X completed 100% of BFT for Mac PPC.
    • Inexperienced volunteers = every QA initiative will have some mistakes in testing, and hand holding
  • To Do - exit poll of a) QA participants to determine what worked and didn't and solicit suggestions, b) people who volunteered but didn't help, to determine what factor(s) resulted in their not helping (no feedback was posted in newsgroups)
  • Need improved plan for beta 1 QA, including reassess time expectations and organization of volunteers.
  • Need to assess changes wanted in litmus to improve testing management and user environment of beta 1... (eg. bug 450143 don't populate Build ID# if test is non-browser product). bug 355585 ability for other users to continue with a test suite run. More after postmortem.

Thunderbird:Thunderbird 3.0b1

• Blockers (3):
  • bug 450038 (Owner: Unknown) "Help | Shredder Help" doesn't redirect to a help site of the applications locale.
  • bug 449949 (Owner: bienvenu) Changing sort of Subject or From to Descending breaks sorting.
  • bug 449202 (Owner/Driver: Standard8) Get Thunderbird L10N builds working on comm-central
• Proposed Blockers (5)
  • 2 are autocomplete transfer to toolkit - as discussed in last week's meeting, nominated as high level feature.
  • Other 3 need more work & decisions.

QA Updates

• Bugday results were excellent, with near record activity
• Offline/online bug triage initiated last week. of 78 bugs: 7 closed, 16 others touched. Still a big list. Will hit it again this week.

Roundtable

Status Updates

dmose

• final sr pass over nsIAbCard refactoring (bug 413260)
• iterated a bunch more on Weave TB integration (bug 447882)
• nailed down issues around Weave crashing in debug builds; nominated NSS update to block 1.9.1 (bug 447882)
• did an interview w/dascher for How Software Is Built
• pushed several minor weave fixes
• lots of catchup on news, email, bugs, etc; still behind :-/

Standard8

• Reviews
• Address Book
  • Added short term planning section to Address Book roadmap - includes proposed milestones
  • bug 449260 Replace RDF driven AB menus with xbl versions
    • In review loop
  • Started work on bug 437908 - fix search/filter in Mac OS X AB, depends on Joshua's patch for bug 449618
  • bug 445891 Removed obsolete mail.collect_email_address_preferences
• Autocomplete
  • Started looking at what is required for the remaining feature parity for xpfe versus toolkit autocomplete
• Build Config
  • bug 449202 Ported some work to TB for getting l10n builds working in mozilla-central.
  • bug 448339 Updated the application update url version (for checking for nightly builds, will mean we can do OS specific major updates)
• Misc
  • bug 327510 XML Parsing Error: no element found / netError.xhml on newsgroup msg download timeout.
  • bug 449753, bug 450087

gozer

• Got our hands on scrubbed Win32 Ref Platform Image bug 440480
  • Still need to compare that with what we are running
• We are now master of our own DNS! bug 439076
• We now have Thunderbird start page logs bug 438059
  • What do we want to do with it?
• Calendar/Lighting/gdata Buildbots
• Blog aggregator
• Thunderbird on OS X : mZdiff:-1660944264 (-1.66Gb) bug 448003
• XCode 3.1 & OS X 10.5
• Monitoring
  • We are now monitoring tons more of internal stuff
  • We (I) am now being paged when anything funny happens
  • We (I) am now being paged when MoCo's TB buildbots go broken
• Working on the IT Roadmap
• Day off: Friday (not 100% certain yet)

wsmwk

• Bugday and triage offline/online bugs
• QA 3.0a2
• Filing bugs against litmus

jcranmer

• Cleaning up nsIMsgIncomingServer bug 435775
• Checked in bug 413260
  • Set up [branch for AB refactoring]
  • Working on cardForEmail refactoring bug 449618
• Will probably not be on call (traveling to Atlanta)

rebron

• Auditing Thunderbird mktg messages.
• Working on product analysis, Zimbra, Windows [Live] Mail, Mac Mail.
• Wrapping on toi/data transfer of Thunderbird 2 marketing/pr launch activities and Start page.
• Working on Thunderbird dashboard and baseline metrics.