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First of all, it is a very nice proposal and contains many good solutions for new functions. Thank you. | First of all, it is a very nice proposal and contains many good solutions for new functions. Thank you. | ||
* '''Chrome | * '''Chrome Hack:''' Hopefully, a link like this chrome://browser/content/bookmarks/bookmarksManager.xul will still show the bookmarks window in a tab and did not get lost in transition. | ||
* '''Autolinks:''' I'm not so excited about it because all systems with automated population I know are never transparent. You never know when an item will appear and when it will suddenly disappears. I understand the intention but I'm not sure if it is reliable for the target group. | * '''Autolinks:''' I'm not so excited about it because all systems with automated population I know are never transparent. You never know when an item will appear and when it will suddenly disappears. I understand the intention but I'm not sure if it is reliable for the target group. | ||
* '''Old Bookmarking System:''' worked actually well as flat list with manual tagging and annotating (see items at http://tdot.blog-city.com)! But having said that I'm glad to see that Firefox will provide support such as auto-complete for tags etc. so that random variations of tags can be avoided. | * '''Old Bookmarking System:''' worked actually well as flat list with manual tagging and annotating (see items at http://tdot.blog-city.com)! But having said that I'm glad to see that Firefox will provide support such as auto-complete for tags etc. so that random variations of tags can be avoided. | ||
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* '''Tags:''' Tag lists can grow really big and it takes a lot of time to scroll long vertical lists. Look at this example http://del.icio.us/Tdot/firefox and try to work with it. How much time does it take you to scroll? Anyway, I use tags primarily for search because it is actually a special kind of annotation! | * '''Tags:''' Tag lists can grow really big and it takes a lot of time to scroll long vertical lists. Look at this example http://del.icio.us/Tdot/firefox and try to work with it. How much time does it take you to scroll? Anyway, I use tags primarily for search because it is actually a special kind of annotation! | ||
* '''Old Description Field:''' I always missed the description field in the bookmarks manager because it could have been a good place for notes. But it is basically invisible. At least in the bookmarks manager. My solution for this problem was to change the title field manually and add tags and annotations using some separators : Title -- Tags ;; Annotations. This was so far very efficient for the existing bookmarking system. I guess it will become the new notes field. | * '''Old Description Field:''' I always missed the description field in the bookmarks manager because it could have been a good place for notes. But it is basically invisible. At least in the bookmarks manager. My solution for this problem was to change the title field manually and add tags and annotations using some separators : Title -- Tags ;; Annotations. This was so far very efficient for the existing bookmarking system. I guess it will become the new notes field. | ||
* '''Notes:''' integration looks great! It should include the tags field! I change tags frequently when I do research and work on projects. Tags and notes are just different annotations. Can I choose between left or bottom as | * '''Notes:''' integration looks great! It should include the tags field! I change tags frequently when I do research and work on projects. Tags and notes are just different annotations. Can I choose between left or bottom as notes location? (May be floating?) | ||
* '''Search:''' MUST include title, (URL: recommend), tags, and notes! When I use my bash script to search all fields of the bookmarks I get a small percentage of unintended results but I prefer this simplistic approach with one search field that is similar to Google's. Additional specifiers such as inurl, site, etc. are only used for advanced search. | * '''Search:''' MUST include title, (URL: recommend), tags, and notes! When I use my bash script to search all fields of the bookmarks I get a small percentage of unintended results but I prefer this simplistic approach with one search field that is similar to Google's. Additional specifiers such as inurl, site, etc. are only used for advanced search. | ||
* '''Viewing Tags:''' I'm not sure about its function. It seems to offer the tags list and show all bookmarks with the selected tag. It seems equivalent to an advanced search like "tags:firefox". If I bookmark a website that has Firefox in its title way should I enter it again as a tag? I'm using tags to improve findability not to build a perfect structure of tags. I mean I need to add as tag or in notes information that is not in the title field so that I can integrate this website into my personal map of associations and knowledge. | * '''Viewing Tags:''' I'm not sure about its function. It seems to offer the tags list and show all bookmarks with the selected tag. It seems equivalent to an advanced search like "tags:firefox". If I bookmark a website that has Firefox in its title way should I enter it again as a tag? I'm using tags to improve findability not to build a perfect structure of tags. I mean I need to add as tag or in notes information that is not in the title field so that I can integrate this website into my personal map of associations and knowledge. | ||
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* '''Check Bookmarks (reply to above):''' Having a few thousand bookmarks dead links come up once in a while and are easily deleted when I notice the website is gone. But more importantly a server can be down temporarily and I do not want to loose important bookmarks by an automated bookmark cleaner. | * '''Check Bookmarks (reply to above):''' Having a few thousand bookmarks dead links come up once in a while and are easily deleted when I notice the website is gone. But more importantly a server can be down temporarily and I do not want to loose important bookmarks by an automated bookmark cleaner. | ||
* '''Incremental Search (reply to above):''' The problem with Firefox is only that it takes the search field as one string instead of a space separated list with a default AND operator. Also Mozilla/Firefox always destroyed the order of bookmarks so I wrote my own search as bash script that generates a dynamic HTML ant loads it in a Firefox tab (see http://tdot.blog-city.com/firefox_hacks_bm_search.htm). | * '''Incremental Search (reply to above):''' The problem with Firefox is only that it takes the search field as one string instead of a space separated list with a default AND operator. Also Mozilla/Firefox always destroyed the order of bookmarks so I wrote my own search as bash script that generates a dynamic HTML ant loads it in a Firefox tab (see http://tdot.blog-city.com/firefox_hacks_bm_search.htm). | ||
* '''Smart Keywords:''' Currently, I can enter a bookmark like this http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=%s , add a keyword "ys", and use it to search yahoo from the URL bar, e.g "ys firefox". But if I just enter "ys" I get the search results for "%s". So, it would be great to delete "%s" before it is send to the server. Except, on the website is some text selected. Because in this case is should perform the search for the selected text. | |||
* '''PermaLinks for bookmark searches:''' would be a wonderful tool for frequent tasks and combine it with all the possibilities for bookmarks (keyword, smart keyword, bookmarklet, bookmarks menu, bookmarks toolbar). It has the function of a "smart folder" (Mac) and could for example be used to show all bookmarks with the tag "project1". But unlike in directories ONE bookmark can appear in multiple "smart folders". The URL/link could look like this chrome://browser/content/bookmarks/bookmarksManager.xul?s=project1 chrome://browser/content/bookmarks/bookmarksManager.xul?s=%s | |||
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