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=== 2. RLL Status Meeting ===
==== Date Time Venue ====
26th August 2012, 3:30 PM UTC, #nemo
==== Agenda of the meeting ====
Check for the agenda here: [https://press.etherpad.mozilla.org/6 NeMo RLL Meeting]
==== Attendees ====
NeMo RLL - [https://wiki.mozilla.org/NeMo/People People list]
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                        Conversation with #nemo
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(7:55:07 PM) fauzanalfi [fauzanalfi@A6BE2004.C86218C8.251727D7.IP]
entered the room.
(8:39:02 PM) fauzanalfi: Hi @dtsdwarak!
(8:39:09 PM) fauzanalfi: How are you?
(8:39:09 PM) dtsdwarak: hi fauzanalfi
(8:39:13 PM) dtsdwarak: I'm fine !
(8:39:22 PM) dtsdwarak: how about you ?
(8:39:29 PM) fauzanalfi: Good to hear that
(8:39:39 PM) fauzanalfi: I'm fine too. Thanks for asking.
(8:40:03 PM) fauzanalfi: Do we have any Etherpad link for this meeting?
(8:40:21 PM) dtsdwarak: yeah
(8:40:29 PM) dtsdwarak: https://press.etherpad.mozilla.org/6
(8:42:36 PM) dtsdwarak: check for the nominations for community leads
(8:43:34 PM) bobreyes [Mibbit@4A64D33D.FEA980B.A103AA52.IP] entered the
room.
(8:45:09 PM) You're not channel operator
(8:45:33 PM) fauzanalfi: what's the differences between RLL and
Community Leads?
(8:45:52 PM) dtsdwarak: rll for l10n
(8:46:00 PM) dtsdwarak: community leads for article creation process
(8:46:43 PM) fauzanalfi: oh I see...
(8:46:52 PM) bobreyes: does that mean the the Lead Localizer title is
the same with RLL?
(8:47:20 PM) dtsdwarak: yes
(8:47:43 PM) dtsdwarak: apart from the fact that they've got the name
community lead, RLL and CL are on the same page
(8:48:18 PM) bobreyes left the room (quit: Quit:
http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client).
(8:50:35 PM) bobreyes [chatzilla@A9D5125.1AA609BA.A4B8B8E8.IP] entered
the room.
(8:50:35 PM) fauzanalfi: so, can I nominate other person as Community
Lead?
(8:50:53 PM) bobreyes: Sorry, I got DC a while ago
(8:50:59 PM) dtsdwarak: sure. That's the whole point of having this
meeting
(8:51:06 PM) dtsdwarak: that's okay bob !
(8:51:33 PM) dtsdwarak: if you can find our friends online, please let
them know that we're here.
(8:52:00 PM) gauthamraj [Gautham@1DC200ED.B3B2A4A8.425A25DC.IP] entered
the room.
(8:52:28 PM) fauzanalfi: ok!
(8:58:23 PM) dtsdwarak: let's wait for some more time.
(8:58:25 PM) dtsdwarak: for others to join
(8:58:38 PM) bobreyes: no problem
(9:01:57 PM) gauthamraj: okay
(9:02:39 PM) adiphoenix5 [Dell@401D5EBD.BACD8FB4.8B4AB1DB.IP] entered
the room.
(9:03:40 PM) Debloper [Debloper@B95D54E7.24588541.E435C74A.IP] entered
the room.
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(9:04:09 PM) FrancJP
[chatzilla@moz-EBDA315B.red-88-3-82.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] entered the
room.
(9:04:16 PM) dtsdwarak: The agenda for meeting will be
https://press.etherpad.mozilla.org/6
(9:04:24 PM) syafiqmazli [syafiqmazl@9676B939.16F545AD.525D7028.IP]
entered the room.
(9:04:29 PM) syafiqmazli: hello
(9:04:35 PM) dtsdwarak: hi syafiqmazli !
(9:04:38 PM) Debloper: Hi all ;)
(9:04:52 PM) syafiqmazli: hi dwarka
(9:05:00 PM) FrancJP: hi... sorry for being late... I had an incidence
with my mac :S
(9:05:09 PM) dtsdwarak: No issues FrancJP !
(9:05:11 PM) syafiqmazli: is the meeting started?
(9:05:27 PM) dtsdwarak: no
(9:05:29 PM) dtsdwarak: not yet
(9:05:43 PM) dtsdwarak: Do anyone of you see Chit around ?
(9:05:52 PM) gauthamraj: Hello Everyone :)
(9:05:58 PM) dtsdwarak: hi gauthamraj !
(9:06:59 PM) dtsdwarak: we'll start in 5 mins
(9:09:26 PM) bobreyes: Can I add my team at
https://wiki.mozilla.org/NeMo/People now?
(9:09:41 PM) dtsdwarak: Of course you can
(9:10:13 PM) syafiqmazli: ping fauzan.. i'm here.. :)
(9:10:28 PM) dtsdwarak: gauthamraj: sorry, I didn't add your team.
Please add yours too :)
(9:11:16 PM) gauthamraj: okay , will do
(9:11:28 PM) dtsdwarak: BTW, before we start the meeting, one of the
prime agendas will be to look at Community Leads. - people who would
lead the article generation process
(9:11:32 PM) bobreyes: Thanks! :D
(9:12:24 PM) dtsdwarak: As RLLs, you guys have done some awesome work
and we would like you to nominate and suggest people for Community
leads
(9:13:11 PM) dtsdwarak: You can add your suggestions at the link given
at Agenda page
(9:13:18 PM) dtsdwarak: password: nemocl
(9:13:26 PM) vineel [vineelredd@519053EC.4B19CED8.B58D974D.IP] entered
the room.
(9:13:30 PM) kinshuk [kinshuk@6BF3BB89.C75AFA31.493B1C0B.IP] entered
the room.
(9:13:56 PM) kinshuk: hi fellas
(9:14:05 PM) Debloper: That's weird.. anyway, carry on :P
(9:14:25 PM) dtsdwarak: Okay
(9:14:31 PM) dtsdwarak: I guess its time we start
(9:14:43 PM) syafiqmazli: any etherpad will use for this meeting?
(9:14:44 PM) dtsdwarak: Once again, its the agenda I would want to tell
you
(9:14:45 PM) kinshuk: not started yet :D
(9:14:46 PM) kinshuk: great
(9:14:47 PM) dtsdwarak: yea,
(9:14:50 PM) kinshuk: i didnt miss anythign then XD
(9:14:53 PM) dtsdwarak: https://press.etherpad.mozilla.org/6
(9:14:58 PM) dtsdwarak: will be the agenda
(9:15:02 PM) dtsdwarak: for today
(9:15:16 PM) kinshuk: ok
(9:15:21 PM) dtsdwarak: For the introduction part,
(9:15:28 PM) Sayak [Mibbit@6339B1A4.7052885A.650F25DA.IP] entered the
room.
(9:15:40 PM) Sayak: hey Guys!!
(9:15:49 PM) Sayak: Sorry for being a bit late
(9:15:50 PM) dtsdwarak: we'll start in the order listed sideways
(9:15:56 PM) dtsdwarak: first up, bobreyes
(9:15:56 PM) dtsdwarak: !
(9:16:10 PM) dtsdwarak: that's okay Sayak
(9:16:10 PM) Debloper: Dwaraka, let's start.
(9:16:22 PM) dtsdwarak: yeah. Debloper
(9:16:27 PM) dtsdwarak: we're on already
(9:16:46 PM) dtsdwarak: bobreyes: please introduce yourself and your
team and anything, with regard to NeMo
(9:17:30 PM) dtsdwarak: bob ?
(9:18:02 PM) kinshuk: bobreyes, around ?
(9:18:13 PM) dtsdwarak: okay, so Fauzan, can you do the honors please ?
(9:18:58 PM) bobreyes: yes ..
(9:19:32 PM) dtsdwarak: please introduce yourself bobreyes !
(9:19:36 PM) bobreyes: Robert "Bob" Reyes here from Manila,
Philippines. I'm a ReMo and currently the Lead Localizer for the entire
country (several dialects and languages)
(9:20:04 PM) Sayak: awesome!!
(9:20:08 PM) fauzanalfi: ok
(9:20:19 PM) fauzanalfi: Hi everyone
(9:20:34 PM) kinshuk: hello :)
(9:20:39 PM) dtsdwarak: hello fauzanalfi
(9:21:11 PM) dtsdwarak: introductions please
(9:21:12 PM) fauzanalfi: Fauzan Alfi from Bandung, Indonesia. I'm a
ReMo and currently leads on L10n Sundanese project for Firefox
(9:21:30 PM) fauzanalfi: Sundanese is one of traditional language from
Bandung
(9:21:43 PM) fauzanalfi: and now contributing on Project NeMo too.
(9:21:51 PM) fauzanalfi: Nice to see you all in this room.
(9:21:57 PM) dtsdwarak: that was cool :) great !
(9:22:03 PM) dtsdwarak: FrancJP ?
(9:22:24 PM) fauzanalfi: thanks dtsdwarak
(9:23:18 PM) FrancJP: I'm Francisco from spain
(9:23:36 PM) FrancJP: currently remo mentor, and doing my best at
mozilla hispano
(9:23:53 PM) FrancJP: I'm participating in some L10n projects
(9:23:59 PM) FrancJP: inside the spanish community
(9:24:29 PM) dtsdwarak: great :)
(9:24:41 PM) dtsdwarak: Next up, gauthamraj
(9:24:51 PM) dtsdwarak: and we'll make this quick
(9:25:15 PM) dtsdwarak: seems like we're taking up too much on
introductions than talking about the useful stuff
(9:25:30 PM) gauthamraj: Gauthamraj from Erode , India . I am ReMo ,
currently leads Tamil L10N team and also spreading the mission of
Mozilla through various events at schools , computer centers and mobile
shops etc..Our tamil article is first to reach media on NeMo
(9:26:02 PM) dtsdwarak: Great Gautham
(9:26:04 PM) dtsdwarak: Sayak you ?
(9:26:09 PM) Sayak: Hi, I'm Sayak Sarkar, ReMo from Pune, India. I'm
also a localizer for the BN-IN locale for various FOSS Initiatives,
including Mozilla. My latest l10n work for Mozilla being the Firefox &
You Bengali Newsletter.
(9:26:27 PM) dtsdwarak: awesome !
(9:26:37 PM) Sayak: :)
(9:27:01 PM) kinshuk: Firefox & You Bengali newsletter sounds cool
(9:27:02 PM) dtsdwarak: so, apart from the RLLs here, I'm Dwaraka Nath
from Chennai India
(9:27:03 PM) kinshuk: how to see ?
(9:27:23 PM) Debloper: Kinshuk: nemocl
(9:27:34 PM) Debloper: (Password)
(9:27:36 PM) kinshuk: eh?
(9:27:48 PM) kinshuk: i am on that doc.. i was asking baout the
newsletter
(9:27:56 PM) Debloper: Oh!
(9:27:58 PM) Sayak: kinshuk: its yet to be released, I guess it'll be
released sometime later this month
(9:28:05 PM) dtsdwarak: Debloper vineel kinshuk syafiqmazli , quick
intros ?
(9:28:22 PM) dtsdwarak: adiphoenix5 ?
(9:28:32 PM) kinshuk: hiu i am kinshuk from delhi, India. I am remo.
occassionally help with l10n and primarily focus in building
communities :)
(9:28:43 PM) kinshuk: *hi
(9:28:55 PM) gauthamraj: kinshuk: Great
(9:29:10 PM) Sayak: hiu kinshuk ;-)
(9:29:16 PM) kinshuk: :D
(9:29:22 PM) kinshuk: elo
(9:29:47 PM) vineel: Hi all, I am Vineel, Mozilla rep from India :)
(9:29:56 PM) fauzanalfi: hi
(9:30:00 PM) dtsdwarak: that was too modest vineel !
(9:30:06 PM) dtsdwarak: ;)
(9:30:26 PM) syafiqmazli: Hi everyone, i'm syafiqmazli. Mozilla reps
from Malaysia :)
(9:32:24 PM) dtsdwarak: And I want someone here to take notes for the
meeting
(9:32:27 PM) dtsdwarak: volunteers ?
(9:32:27 PM) kinshuk: next ?
(9:32:47 PM) dtsdwarak: fill up the
https://press.etherpad.mozilla.org/6 as and when things are
discussed
(9:33:01 PM) dtsdwarak: gauthamraj, will you be okay in doing it ?
(9:34:03 PM) dtsdwarak: kinshuk, perhaps you then ?
(9:34:20 PM) dtsdwarak: everyone seems idle here
(9:34:38 PM) kinshuk: i am akshully eating dinner side by side, so wont
be able to manage for another 20 mins or so
(9:35:14 PM) Debloper: Hi, I'm Soumya Deb - FOSS enthusiast from India
& a mozilla rep. Please carry on :)
(9:35:26 PM) dtsdwarak: Okay Chill kinshuk, I'll manage
(9:35:28 PM) dtsdwarak: :)
(9:35:28 PM) gauthamraj: dwarak , there may be a power cut in another
10 mins here . So , can't follow the things :(
(9:35:39 PM) kinshuk: Debloper, pls2write minutes :D
(9:35:40 PM) dtsdwarak: that's okay gauthamraj
(9:35:56 PM) ***Debloper is doing an open heart surgery on his
workstation
(9:36:27 PM) dtsdwarak: RLLs, you've done some l10n work in the past.
(9:36:46 PM) Sayak: Debloper: since when did you become a surgeon? o.O
(9:36:48 PM) dtsdwarak: Please report what problems you have faced
(9:37:36 PM) dtsdwarak: if something did turn up amazing, be proud to
type that too !
(9:37:59 PM) dtsdwarak: I want some feedback on the general l10n works,
problems you faced until now in NeMo
(9:38:02 PM) Debloper: Sayak, "technically" since always.
(9:38:09 PM) kinshuk: erm whats RLL ?
(9:38:10 PM) kinshuk: :/
(9:38:18 PM) dtsdwarak: RLL - Regional Localization Leader
(9:38:28 PM) dtsdwarak: people incharge of l10n for a language
(9:38:32 PM) Debloper: Regional l10n leader
(9:38:36 PM) FrancJP: dtsdwarak: I think that the main problem is to
keep updated when a new article is ready to be translated
(9:38:49 PM) FrancJP: I meant, know when the article is up on the wiki
(9:38:57 PM) FrancJP: and start localizing
(9:39:01 PM) kinshuk: yes that is a problem
(9:39:04 PM) bobreyes: Here in the Philippines, we are currently
finishing the Firefox Aurora translation to Tagalog
(http://a.maimult.ro/lmo/project.php?l=tl-PH&p=28)
(9:39:14 PM) Debloper: ^ interesting point.
(9:39:16 PM) kinshuk: and so is maintaining different language versions
of the doc too
(9:39:27 PM) Sayak:
[9]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ODzp31zAUN0cBpZWJbA2s_k7SD1IzdEu
CY2Qo3sMlXs/edit?pli=1#
(9:39:38 PM) Sayak: Just got this one in the morning
(9:39:39 PM) FrancJP: secondly, it might help not so first person
aproach of the articles
(9:39:52 PM) FrancJP: it could be more friendly for readers
(9:39:59 PM) bobreyes: Translation of Firefox Aurora to 3 other
Philippine language/dialects are being carried out ... all starting at
the Narro
(9:40:01 PM) fauzanalfi: Technical problem in my L10n experiences: lots
of bugs in Narro
(9:40:09 PM) Debloper: Kinshuk: too manual - think that can be
automated?
(9:40:20 PM) Sayak: Md. Ashickur Rahman one of the l10n guys for
Bengali did a great job on localizing the agenda for NeMo to Bengali
(9:40:33 PM) FrancJP: but could be a little be more easy to communicate
if the article would be more neutral
(9:40:42 PM) Sayak: I just finished applying some last minute touches
to it
(9:40:43 PM) Sayak: :D
(9:41:11 PM) dtsdwarak: can you elaborate a little FrancJP ?
(9:41:13 PM) kinshuk: Debloper, yes definitely
(9:41:15 PM) FrancJP: and finally, I think that it might help to open
more to other "writers", to let them write in their language
(9:41:37 PM) FrancJP: and then translate in english
(9:41:43 PM) Sayak: FrancJP: +1
(9:41:48 PM) kinshuk: makes sense
(9:41:50 PM) kinshuk: +1
(9:41:50 PM) fauzanalfi: +1
(9:41:51 PM) FrancJP: dtsdwarak: ellaborate what??
(9:41:56 PM) FrancJP: the neutral approach??
(9:41:59 PM) dtsdwarak: yeah
(9:42:01 PM) kinshuk: in essence, no language gets a pririty
(9:42:04 PM) kinshuk: priority*
(9:42:39 PM) FrancJP: yep... I think that the articles that has been
more difficult to translate were the ones that starts with: When I was
helping my dad
(9:42:52 PM) dtsdwarak: lol :D
(9:42:59 PM) FrancJP: and the others with a "private conversation"
(9:43:06 PM) FrancJP: I can understand
(9:43:07 PM) fauzanalfi: next?
(9:43:23 PM) FrancJP: and I can easily make it on our own approach
(9:43:26 PM) fauzanalfi: I agree with that
(9:43:35 PM) dtsdwarak: Point was, I intended to make it more
interactive
(9:43:45 PM) FrancJP: but I think that those articles also can reach
the same kind of people
(9:44:00 PM) FrancJP: if they weren't so "personal" approach
(9:44:10 PM) FrancJP: I meant, they are funny
(9:44:28 PM) FrancJP: but we can make it formal without sounds "clowny"
(9:44:44 PM) FrancJP: and I don't want to be rude... my intention is to
put my thoughts here
(9:44:58 PM) dtsdwarak: no problem FrancJP.
(9:45:00 PM) FrancJP: and sometimes the tone in IRC can be
misunderstood
(9:45:05 PM) syafiqmazli: : i have question here, i didnt see locale
for ms in access document from wiki NeMo
(9:45:20 PM) fauzanalfi: In my opinion, those article is a little bit
harder to localize becasue we must localize 'its interactivity' based
on our language
(9:45:21 PM) FrancJP: I like it, and it make senses when you read it in
english
fauzanalfi FrancJP
(9:45:45 PM) dtsdwarak: ya fauzanalfi and FrancJP
(9:45:48 PM) dtsdwarak: I get that
(9:45:49 PM) FrancJP: but som cultures could face a problem when they
reach that "so first person" interaction
(9:46:05 PM) FrancJP: is not a problem in latin culture
(9:46:25 PM) FrancJP: but it can be more harsh to translate and
transmit the same "funny" tone intention
(9:46:33 PM) dtsdwarak: We definitely don't want to have that problem.
Writers are encouraged to change the tone as long as it conveys the
meaning correctly
(9:46:56 PM) FrancJP: well... in spanish articles we done that ;)
(9:47:05 PM) dtsdwarak: If yeah
(9:47:11 PM) dtsdwarak: that works, we can do
(9:47:24 PM) FrancJP: we changed the tone a little bit... but keeping
the "good mood" ;)
(9:47:32 PM) dtsdwarak: that works yeah !
(9:47:51 PM) dtsdwarak: And, we'll see what we can do about the neutral
approach yeah ! great point FrancJP !
(9:47:55 PM) kinshuk: since these articles are being written for the
press, shouldnt they be i third person, neutral perspective ?
(9:47:56 PM) FrancJP: and that's basically my point of view regarding
the new project
(9:47:57 PM) adiphoenix5 left the room (quit: Ping timeout).
(9:48:22 PM) dtsdwarak: and someone was telling about UI of NeMo
(9:48:30 PM) dtsdwarak: in accessing the document from Wiki
(9:48:36 PM) FrancJP: I think is very easy to collaborate, and to
localise, because the articles are very friendly approach, they aren't
technichals (only the browser ID)
(9:48:56 PM) FrancJP: yeah, could be me... I said in an email, I think
(9:49:11 PM) FrancJP: that could be difficult to reach those articles
if you don't know the project
(9:49:18 PM) Sayak: dtsdwarak: the wiki UI may be good enough for now,
but what happens when we add more locales to the Project
(9:49:22 PM) Sayak: ?
(9:49:32 PM) kinshuk: i disagree
(9:49:46 PM) kinshuk: the wiki UI is "technically" functional, but
counter-productive
(9:50:05 PM) kinshuk: because it assumes the content writer/localiser
also understands how to work with wiki
(9:50:11 PM) kinshuk: which is mostly not the case
(9:50:29 PM) kinshuk: we need to have a localisation system in place,
something like pootle
(9:50:42 PM) kinshuk: which will have multiple benefits:
(9:50:47 PM) kinshuk: 1. ease of localisation
(9:50:59 PM) kinshuk: 2. easier management of different languyage
versions of the article
(9:51:08 PM) kinshuk: 3. notification of new articles
(9:51:20 PM) kinshuk: 4. managing addition of newer language projects
in future
(9:51:58 PM) dtsdwarak: But, can we implement all that with the
existing infrastructure in place kinshuk, I mean just the Wiki alone.
Not possible I guess
(9:52:04 PM) kinshuk: erm.. hello ?
(9:52:16 PM) kinshuk: these things can be done with the wiki
(9:52:23 PM) kinshuk: what is the current infrastructure ?
(9:52:29 PM) kinshuk: do we have hosting available ?
(9:52:30 PM) Sayak: kinshuk: something Like Pootle but not Pootle
please, pootle's domain is somehat different
(9:52:31 PM) dtsdwarak: I meant Wiki only
(9:53:00 PM) dtsdwarak: It would take us some more time to shift to a
domain
(9:53:02 PM) kinshuk: Sayak, pootle was the first thing that i could
think of, since i have been using it at many projects :D
(9:53:03 PM) fauzanalfi: we need a Dashboard for NeMo
(9:53:09 PM) kinshuk: but it works for strings not docs
(9:53:12 PM) kinshuk: we need something for docs
(9:53:16 PM) dtsdwarak: fauzanalfi: +1
(9:53:32 PM) syafiqmazli: I think the good infra is using wiki or
simple way by etherpad and created many page for articles
(9:53:33 PM) Sayak: do we need to go into dev phase for this??
(9:53:40 PM) fauzanalfi: something that have done with ReMo
(9:53:54 PM) fauzanalfi: moving from wiki to a standalone Dashboard
(9:53:57 PM) kinshuk: dtsdwarak, wiki will always invovle the manual
editing and refactoriung of the wiki regularly
(9:54:05 PM) Sayak: maybe create a new portal for NeMo with a
localization dashboard
(9:54:06 PM) adiphoenix5 [Dell@401D5EBD.BACD8FB4.8B4AB1DB.IP] entered
the room.
(9:54:19 PM) Sayak: something like translatewiki?
(9:54:19 PM) kinshuk: too chaotic and too much of maintaince overhead
(9:54:32 PM) Sayak: kinshuk: +1
(9:54:32 PM) kinshuk: will need to see that
(9:54:46 PM) fauzanalfi: but we need that I think
(9:54:58 PM) kinshuk: which is ?
(9:55:03 PM) Sayak: everytime someone adds a new name to the project,
tables need to be re-aligned
(9:55:07 PM) fauzanalfi: mostly for articles
(9:55:18 PM) Sayak: same for articles i guess
(9:55:49 PM) kinshuk: i am confused
(9:55:57 PM) kinshuk: fauzanalfi, what solution are you suggesting ?
(9:56:30 PM) fauzanalfi: build a standalone dashboard, but we need more
time on developing it
(9:56:50 PM) fauzanalfi: or
(9:56:51 PM) kinshuk: developing it is like reinventing the wheel
(9:57:02 PM) kinshuk: i like what i see at translatewiki
(9:57:05 PM) bobreyes: I guess for the time being, there should be a
central repository where one can submit / upload his/her translation of
an article in English
(9:57:08 PM) kinshuk: Sayak, are you already using it someplace ?
(9:57:10 PM) Sayak: kinshuk: thats true
(9:57:18 PM) Sayak: kinshuk: using what?
(9:57:32 PM) Sayak: SUMO has a similar dashboard
(9:57:32 PM) fauzanalfi: we're relayout the wiki
(9:57:35 PM) kinshuk: using translatewiki ?
(9:57:35 PM) syafiqmazli: +1 bobreyes, github/bitbucket?
(9:57:44 PM) bobreyes: Translators will just have to email ... whoever
is maintaining the repository
(9:57:47 PM) Sayak: yup, I've worked with it
(9:57:59 PM) dtsdwarak: Okay. having something to manage the language
translations and other notifications is too good. Kinshuk and others,
we'll have to see what we can do about that via emails
(9:58:08 PM) fauzanalfi: ok
(9:58:09 PM) kinshuk: okay
(9:58:13 PM) Sayak: okk
(9:58:17 PM) dtsdwarak: I'll start a thread
(9:58:25 PM) gauthamraj: okay
(9:58:36 PM) dtsdwarak: now, there has been a approach
(9:58:47 PM) dtsdwarak: to have NeMo homepages translated to seperate
languages
(9:59:05 PM) dtsdwarak: anyways to make the NeMo homepage language
selection?
(9:59:14 PM) dtsdwarak: I think you can understand what I mean
(9:59:30 PM) kinshuk: that would depend on how we set up our
infrastructure :D
(9:59:35 PM) dtsdwarak: gauthamraj and faisal translated NeMo homepages
to tamil and hindi
(9:59:37 PM) dtsdwarak: like that
(9:59:50 PM) gauthamraj: thanq dwarak
(10:00:11 PM) dtsdwarak: kinshuk: right now we have to work with Wiki
only. But, in the long run, we're obviously gonna need a seperate
domain or hosting
(10:00:42 PM) kinshuk: mm
(10:01:03 PM) kinshuk: so with the wiki you want to autoset the user's
nemo wiki homepage ?
(10:01:16 PM) dtsdwarak: if there's someway we can manage the language
options in Wiki for now, it would be great
(10:01:34 PM) dtsdwarak: like in Gmail sign in page, there is an option
to change the language the page is being viewed in
(10:01:36 PM) dtsdwarak: something like that
(10:02:01 PM) dtsdwarak: possible? guys thoughts ?
(10:02:16 PM) Sayak: just put in language links
(10:02:18 PM) Sayak: simple
(10:02:26 PM) FrancJP: I think the main thing is to ease the acces to
users to the page
(10:02:26 PM) kinshuk: i think that can be done with the mediawiki
account preferences
(10:02:29 PM) Sayak: at the home page itself
(10:02:30 PM) kinshuk: set your default language
(10:02:39 PM) FrancJP: if there is something that could help people
choice the language
(10:02:51 PM) FrancJP: I think it will be ok whatever solution you can
use on it
(10:03:11 PM) Sayak: put in a block in the main page with links to each
language
(10:03:13 PM) kinshuk: there is a language selection at
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Special:Preferences
(10:03:30 PM) kinshuk: but that will change the language of all the
wiki
(10:03:43 PM) kinshuk: and if the page is not availble in that
language, it should fall back to english, i guess
(10:04:03 PM) dtsdwarak: but, it is for the user of Wiki, not the
"Viewer" of Wiki
(10:04:05 PM) dtsdwarak: ?
(10:04:11 PM) kinshuk: yes
(10:04:24 PM) kinshuk: viewer will see in whatever is the default
language of the wiki
(10:04:37 PM) kinshuk: in that case what sayak says makes mst sense
(10:04:50 PM) Sayak: :D
(10:04:57 PM) dtsdwarak: What we need is the person should be able to
view in whatever language he wishes to, even if he doesn't understand a
word of it
(10:05:07 PM) kinshuk: the way we did it on document foudnation
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/
(10:05:09 PM) dtsdwarak: Gmail, like i said
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(10:06:02 PM) kinshuk: there might be a wiki addon for that, but then
we dont control the mozilla wiki
(10:06:08 PM) kinshuk: so i dont think we will be able to do that
(10:06:16 PM) dtsdwarak: yeah something like Wikipedia would be great
(10:06:22 PM) dtsdwarak: to choose the language from side bar
(10:06:34 PM) fauzanalfi: +1 dtsdwarak
(10:06:40 PM) gauthamraj: cool
(10:07:03 PM) dtsdwarak: now, going further
(10:07:16 PM) dtsdwarak: we'll see about this topic via email thread
too
(10:07:28 PM) dtsdwarak: and we need a mode of communication
(10:07:33 PM) dtsdwarak: thoughts ?
(10:07:52 PM) kinshuk: mailing list and this channel should be good
enough
(10:07:57 PM) dtsdwarak: yeah.
(10:07:59 PM) FrancJP: +1
(10:08:04 PM) Sayak: just put in this line somewhere: English ?????
????? ?????
(10:08:06 PM) FrancJP: even more
(10:08:09 PM) Sayak: done
(10:08:16 PM) FrancJP: I think that the remo general list is fair
enough
(10:08:17 PM) ***kinshuk sees squares
(10:08:20 PM) gauthamraj: any updates on nemo mailing list ?
(10:08:26 PM) Sayak: language problems solved with links
(10:08:29 PM) FrancJP: we don't have too much mailings at this moment
(10:08:30 PM) dtsdwarak: We've applied for a mailing list and Mozilla
has approved it
(10:08:34 PM) kinshuk: no this will be nise and irelevant in the remo
general list
(10:08:41 PM) Sayak: Yaayy!! :)
(10:08:44 PM) kinshuk: yay
(10:08:47 PM) gauthamraj: yay :)
(10:08:48 PM) fauzanalfi: yeah!
(10:08:52 PM) kinshuk: they deleted a mailing list request i submitted
:D
(10:09:00 PM) dtsdwarak: but, it is taking time to get set up
(10:09:04 PM) Sayak: kinshuk: :P
(10:09:06 PM) kinshuk: :/
(10:09:20 PM) kinshuk: inorite
(10:09:24 PM) kinshuk: happens with me all the time :D
(10:09:27 PM) gauthamraj: kinshuk ;-)
(10:09:28 PM) fauzanalfi: so, what's the e-mail for our new mailing
list?
fauzanalfi FrancJP
(10:09:38 PM) dtsdwarak: no idea fauzanalfi
(10:10:03 PM) dtsdwarak: We're just setting it up
(10:10:10 PM) dtsdwarak: It'll take some more time to get functiona
(10:10:13 PM) dtsdwarak: functional
(10:10:16 PM) fauzanalfi: hmm...
(10:10:25 PM) kinshuk: hopefully [12]nemo@lists.mozilla.org
(10:10:27 PM) dtsdwarak: It will be a public reps-comms-something
@mozilla
(10:10:35 PM) kinshuk: ah
(10:10:56 PM) fauzanalfi: reps-nemo?
(10:11:00 PM) dtsdwarak: We didn't want the mailing list to stop with
just NeMo. rather a channel of comms for future comms reps project too
(10:11:08 PM) Sayak: [13]nemo@list.mozilla.org would ave been better!!
:-/
(10:11:14 PM) kinshuk: its short and sweet :P
(10:11:16 PM) fauzanalfi: +1 Sayak
(10:11:19 PM) fauzanalfi: hha
(10:11:21 PM) kinshuk: but what dts says makes sense too
(10:11:31 PM) gauthamraj: dwarak +1
(10:11:50 PM) Sayak: kinshuk: Ahh!! The Bitter truth
(10:12:03 PM) kinshuk: the bitter the better :P
(10:12:18 PM) kinshuk: dtsdwarak, i had a question
(10:12:21 PM) dtsdwarak: just say "Great" for now. But, we'll have to
wait for sometime to get that
(10:12:24 PM) dtsdwarak: ya kinshuk
(10:12:30 PM) kinshuk: whya re we not on 'get involved' page yet ?
(10:12:52 PM) kinshuk: there is no external communication for the
program
(10:13:00 PM) kinshuk: which might bring in potential contributors
(10:13:01 PM) Sayak: why not?
(10:13:05 PM) dtsdwarak: Honestly kinshuk, this was discussed in the
first ever NeMo kickoff meeting
(10:13:13 PM) Sayak: we need more contributors
(10:13:17 PM) gauthamraj: good question kinshuk
(10:13:23 PM) kinshuk: my bad, i will check its minutes :)
(10:13:48 PM) Sayak: even i forgot!! :-/
(10:13:54 PM) dtsdwarak: https://press.etherpad.mozilla.org/4?
(10:13:57 PM) dtsdwarak: was its agenda
(10:14:08 PM) dtsdwarak: check ideas and project promotion
(10:14:41 PM) kinshuk: yes
(10:14:46 PM) kinshuk: so it was approved right ?
(10:14:51 PM) kinshuk: still not implemented ?
(10:15:15 PM) Sayak: why has it not been implemented?
(10:15:21 PM) dtsdwarak: there was no constructive discussion about
that
(10:15:24 PM) dtsdwarak: if I remember
(10:15:35 PM) Sayak: need to do that asap
(10:15:36 PM) dtsdwarak: back then, it was too too young- the Nemo was
too young i mean
(10:15:37 PM) fauzanalfi: sorry everyone, I must off from meeting
because tomorrow I must get up early. I will see the meeting transcript
if it's available on Etherpad
(10:15:47 PM) dtsdwarak: okay fauzanalfi
(10:15:52 PM) dtsdwarak: I'll mail you the notes
(10:15:54 PM) fauzanalfi: bye everyone!
(10:16:02 PM) fauzanalfi: thanks dtsdwarak! :)
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(10:16:15 PM) dtsdwarak: so, there wasn't any good discussion about
that
(10:16:15 PM) kinshuk: its not even here
https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReMo/SIGs/Communications
(10:16:16 PM) bobreyes: thanks! bye
(10:16:34 PM) dtsdwarak: but now we may add
(10:16:38 PM) kinshuk: even if its too early to be on /contribute, it
should be in the comms rep sig
(10:16:38 PM) dtsdwarak: or atleast ask
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(10:17:45 PM) dtsdwarak: there was even a thought of integrating this
with student reps programme to give them an opportunity to contribute
to Mozilla
(10:17:56 PM) dtsdwarak: it takes no great effort for NeMo
(10:17:56 PM) kinshuk: but as we all know
(10:18:03 PM) kinshuk: that program is right now snafu
(10:18:10 PM) dtsdwarak: yeah
(10:18:18 PM) gauthamraj: yeah :(
(10:18:32 PM) Sayak: Its quite sad actually.. Student reps also needs
to be revived
(10:18:53 PM) kinshuk: i propose a BOF on NeMo and StuReps at the next
MozCamp :D
(10:18:53 PM) dtsdwarak: So, back to the agenda then
(10:19:12 PM) dtsdwarak: IRC
(10:19:20 PM) Sayak: kinshuk: +1
(10:19:31 PM) gauthamraj: kinshuk:+1111111111
(10:19:41 PM) dtsdwarak: I would personally want each one of us to be
at #NeMo whenever we're online at IRC
(10:19:58 PM) gauthamraj: Sure , will do
(10:20:23 PM) kinshuk: for me irc is mroe addictive than facebook so i
usually skip on t altogether when working
(10:20:28 PM) kinshuk: but i will try to be here more often
(10:20:58 PM) dtsdwarak: I think its a little too early for Facebook or
am I wrong ?
(10:21:07 PM) kinshuk: in what sense ?
(10:21:26 PM) Sayak: y so?
(10:21:27 PM) dtsdwarak: to form a facebook page
(10:21:30 PM) dtsdwarak: i mean
(10:21:39 PM) dtsdwarak: groups page
(10:21:51 PM) Sayak: we need more people, and fb is a very good way of
getting that
(10:22:07 PM) kinshuk: not a page, maybe a group
(10:22:14 PM) kinshuk: but then what will we do there ?
(10:22:31 PM) kinshuk: it cant help with the l10n part, so ppl will
need to be guided from there
(10:23:13 PM) dtsdwarak: that's the point
(10:23:21 PM) Sayak: page may help
(10:23:23 PM) gauthamraj: Actually , I am recruiting many through
facebook. So , we can go for facebook page i guess
(10:23:25 PM) Sayak: instead of a group
(10:23:33 PM) Sayak: gauthamraj: +1
(10:23:33 PM) gauthamraj: sayak +1
(10:23:33 PM) dtsdwarak: Even if its a page, it'll reflect in their
timeline
(10:23:36 PM) dtsdwarak: gaining attention
(10:23:42 PM) gauthamraj: yeah
(10:23:45 PM) dtsdwarak: people never check up groups for notifications
(10:23:49 PM) Sayak: thats the point
(10:24:04 PM) gauthamraj: we can share our updates there as well
(10:24:39 PM) dtsdwarak: So, okay.
(10:24:55 PM) kinshuk: with the pge communication is mostly one-way
(10:25:09 PM) kinshuk: which is why i try and avoid it for communities
(10:25:26 PM) kinshuk: communities should have inherently two-way
communications
(10:25:56 PM) dtsdwarak: might I say that we need both a page and a
group ?
(10:26:09 PM) kinshuk: no
(10:26:19 PM) Sayak: what exactly are you suggesting them, an alias
account??
(10:27:15 PM) kinshuk: a group is what i'd prefer
(10:27:25 PM) kinshuk: but even then it doesnt really solve anything
for us
(10:27:39 PM) dtsdwarak: exactly kinshuk
(10:27:45 PM) kinshuk: the new people that join that group will need to
be pushed/guided/forwarded to the project
(10:27:52 PM) kinshuk: what is more important is
(10:27:58 PM) kinshuk: to make it clear how to participate in the
program
(10:28:08 PM) gauthamraj: yes kinshuk..
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(10:28:14 PM) dtsdwarak: We're too young for a Facebook given that,
there aren't many active contributors
(10:28:36 PM) dtsdwarak: the purpose of creating that group might be
lost
(10:28:37 PM) kinshuk: i hear gauthamraj had troubles getting started,
and i know that komal gandhi definitely did
(10:28:47 PM) gauthamraj: may be we can do a blog post that will help
newbie's to get started
(10:29:08 PM) dtsdwarak: We'll better add that part to Wiki
(10:29:15 PM) dtsdwarak: getting started with NeMo
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(10:29:18 PM) kinshuk: yes it should be in the wiki
(10:30:07 PM) dtsdwarak: Well, to the last part
(10:30:12 PM) dtsdwarak: Community leads !
(10:30:25 PM) dtsdwarak: the people who would be leading the article
generation
(10:30:30 PM) dtsdwarak: or content creation process
(10:30:31 PM) kinshuk: before that
(10:30:38 PM) kinshuk: what is the moderation process
(10:30:41 PM) kinshuk: for articles ?
(10:30:59 PM) dtsdwarak: Ah
(10:30:59 PM) dtsdwarak: yes
(10:31:11 PM) dtsdwarak: That we've sent to the Mozilla PR for approval
(10:31:15 PM) dtsdwarak: They're yet to approve
(10:31:23 PM) dtsdwarak: But, I'll share what we sent
(10:31:31 PM) dtsdwarak: give me a minute
(10:32:06 PM) kinshuk: so articles submitted at etherpad go to mozilla
pr, then come back with critique ?
(10:32:11 PM) kinshuk: whats the usual turnaround time ?
(10:33:14 PM) dtsdwarak: check the agenda page please
(10:33:17 PM) dtsdwarak: https://press.etherpad.mozilla.org/6
(10:35:00 PM) kinshuk: mm
(10:35:06 PM) kinshuk: there should be some automation and deadlines
(10:35:14 PM) kinshuk: there should be some automation and
deadlinesotherwise the turnaround times will be huge
(10:35:30 PM) kinshuk: what has been the average turnaround time for
approved articles as yet ?
(10:35:47 PM) gauthamraj: yeah..like our mailing list
(10:36:23 PM) dtsdwarak: As such, it has only been a very little time
given that myself, Sayak and others have worked on the content creation
(10:36:38 PM) dtsdwarak: this approval method has not exactly been
deployed yet
(10:37:01 PM) kinshuk: hmm
(10:37:08 PM) kinshuk: this process will be the downfall of the program
(10:37:25 PM) kinshuk: its too time consuming and has too much
maintainnce overheads at every step
(10:37:55 PM) kinshuk: we need to automate it, make it fast and snazzy
(10:38:00 PM) FrancJP: sorry guys, I have to leave... I still have
issues with my mac, so I have to make "surgery" :S
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(10:38:10 PM) FrancJP: cheers... I will read the notes later
(10:38:13 PM) FrancJP: or tomorro
(10:38:14 PM) dtsdwarak: automate as in, what exactly kinshuk ?
(10:38:20 PM) dtsdwarak: okay FrancJP
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(10:38:48 PM) kinshuk: i am assumin right now its a manual process of
sharing attachemnts/urls
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(10:39:51 PM) dtsdwarak: Yeah. Right now.
(10:40:04 PM) dtsdwarak: It is what we could do with Wiki
(10:40:05 PM) kinshuk: that manual element should iudeally be not there
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(10:40:54 PM) kinshuk: mm
(10:40:56 PM) Sayak: kinshuk: +1
(10:41:03 PM) kinshuk: another reason why we should move away from the
wiki
(10:41:11 PM) gauthamraj: yeah kinshuk
(10:41:13 PM) kinshuk: time lags will kill the project
(10:41:14 PM) Sayak: but the real problem is how do we automate it?
(10:41:30 PM) kinshuk: give me some time, i will do necessary research
and come with a solution
(10:41:33 PM) kinshuk: hopefully by next sunday
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(10:41:43 PM) Sayak: great!! :)
(10:41:44 PM) gauthamraj: kinshuk:Great
(10:42:00 PM) dtsdwarak: it was only to make that faster, we have a
rule "Core Team can jump in and decide if the article can be approved
if it exceeds a time frame"
(10:42:07 PM) dtsdwarak: anyway,
(10:42:25 PM) dtsdwarak: we'll see how best we can eliminate the
problem as well
(10:42:41 PM) dtsdwarak: there are too much stuff to discuss via email
(10:43:04 PM) dtsdwarak: please ram your brains and type in your
thoughts when a thread is being opened
(10:43:18 PM) Sayak: we need a face to face meeting with everyone
(10:43:37 PM) ***dtsdwarak desperately wants too
(10:43:47 PM) gauthamraj: Yeah but how ?
(10:44:17 PM) kinshuk: moilla carnival ya fir mozcamp :D
(10:44:24 PM) Sayak: we can have a meting during MozCamp Asia, or
MozCarnival Pune
(10:44:25 PM) kinshuk: ab smajhe mozcamp india ka rationale
(10:44:26 PM) Sayak: :D
(10:44:27 PM) kinshuk: XD
(10:44:41 PM) kinshuk: i wonder how many will be nominated for mozcamp
asia
(10:44:41 PM) dtsdwarak: okay guys, I don't want to hold you on for
long
(10:44:53 PM) Sayak: kinshuk: me too
(10:44:54 PM) dtsdwarak: Community Leads
(10:44:58 PM) dtsdwarak: !
(10:45:13 PM) dtsdwarak: you know what that means by now, I hope
(10:45:17 PM) Sayak: do we need to nominate ourselves or do we need to
nominate others?
(10:45:32 PM) Sayak: its confusing
(10:45:34 PM) kinshuk: i nominated dtsdwarak for india lead
(10:45:39 PM) kinshuk: its his baby afterall :D
(10:45:41 PM) kinshuk: ;)
(10:45:43 PM) dtsdwarak: the nominations are here :
https://press.etherpad.mozilla.org/NeMo-CommunityLeads
(10:45:53 PM) Sayak: dtsdwarak: +1
(10:46:06 PM) gauthamraj: yeah
(10:46:09 PM) Sayak: kinshuk: +1
(10:46:11 PM) dtsdwarak: I appreciate that kinshuk, but honest
suggestions.
(10:46:18 PM) kinshuk: vote in wiki
(10:46:21 PM) dtsdwarak: Whatever you think guys
(10:46:24 PM) kinshuk: dtsdwarak, thats what makes it honest too
(10:46:41 PM) kinshuk: indian fella starts a prooject, least we can do
is make him lead india :)
(10:46:48 PM) kinshuk: you already proved your initiative
(10:46:51 PM) Sayak: +!
(10:46:53 PM) Sayak: +1
(10:46:57 PM) kinshuk: and committment to the program
(10:46:59 PM) gauthamraj: Yeah
(10:47:15 PM) dtsdwarak: I shall obviously be there to help out. But,
if someone wants to lead it, why not give him a chance ?
(10:48:03 PM) gauthamraj: You deserve it dwarak
(10:48:07 PM) dtsdwarak: forget India alone. We want the content
creation process to be continous
(10:48:14 PM) dtsdwarak: without, any disruptions
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(10:48:27 PM) kinshuk: arre lets put this down to a vote
(10:48:31 PM) kinshuk: i vote for dtsdwarak
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(10:48:58 PM) Sayak: dtsdwarak: +1
(10:49:16 PM) gauthamraj: I am with Dwarak
(10:49:34 PM) kinshuk: Debloper, vote kar de
(10:49:57 PM) Sayak: Debloper: still in surgery?
(10:50:00 PM) kinshuk: dtsdwarak, you already won the vote btw
(10:50:07 PM) Debloper: kinshuk: got dc... hang on.. (about what?)
(10:50:11 PM) kinshuk: yes, Debloper be doing open kidney surgery now
(10:50:19 PM) Debloper: Sayak: see tweets ;)
(10:50:25 PM) Sayak: but on whom??
(10:50:46 PM) dtsdwarak: guys, its okay... we'll look at other nominees
as well
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(10:51:00 PM) kinshuk: ye bas tweet dikhane aaya tha ?
(10:51:04 PM) Sayak: *le me gone to check tweets*
(10:51:05 PM) dtsdwarak: and if you've got any suggestions, put them
down please
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(10:51:46 PM) dtsdwarak: even if you don't have anything in mind for
now,
(10:51:54 PM) dtsdwarak: please make sure to add them to the link here
(10:52:03 PM) Sayak: sure
(10:52:12 PM) gauthamraj: fine
(10:52:13 PM) dtsdwarak: do make a note of this link somewhere
(10:52:18 PM) dtsdwarak:
https://press.etherpad.mozilla.org/NeMo-CommunityLeads
(10:52:47 PM) dtsdwarak: Well, so any random thoughts before we
disperse ?
(10:52:51 PM) Sayak: me go and see Debloper tweeting about lift offs
and Saurabh sharing half eaten Pizzas.. :s
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(10:53:26 PM) Sayak: could we please share some Wiki editing guidelines
and manuals for all
(10:53:37 PM) kinshuk: that should be part of getting started
(10:53:49 PM) Sayak: people ask the same questions again and again
(10:53:49 PM) kinshuk: chanserv pls to kick Debloper the nuisance
(10:53:50 PM) Debloper: excuse me guys... :-/
(10:54:05 PM) dtsdwarak: getting started. yes.
(10:54:07 PM) dtsdwarak: noted
(10:54:22 PM) ***Debloper is having network issues...
(10:54:53 PM) ***kinshuk kicks at Debloper
(10:54:58 PM) gauthamraj: what about some posters and banners for nemo?
(10:55:04 PM) dtsdwarak: great gauthamraj
(10:55:11 PM) mode (+o dtsdwarak) by Debloper
(10:55:13 PM) Sayak: and badges too!!
(10:55:25 PM) gauthamraj: sayak +1
(10:55:30 PM) Sayak: both real ones and digital ones
(10:55:35 PM) dtsdwarak: +1 Sayak
(10:55:40 PM) gauthamraj: yeah
(10:55:58 PM) Sayak: we should start designing some swags too
(10:56:17 PM) Sayak: that attracts a lot of peopl
(10:56:25 PM) gauthamraj: Also , it will be nice if we add NeMo to our
social media profiles
(10:56:27 PM) dtsdwarak: there are a list of incentives here :
https://wiki.mozilla.org/NeMo/Workflow
(10:56:33 PM) dtsdwarak: +1 gauthamraj
(10:56:36 PM) Sayak: whom we can imprison and make them work!! :P
(10:56:56 PM) gauthamraj: sayak: :)
(10:57:04 PM) Sayak: we should also have NeMo seesions during events
(10:57:16 PM) dtsdwarak: but, putting all that in place in place, would
take some time
(10:57:23 PM) gauthamraj: when do these workflow will start to flow ?
(10:57:32 PM) Sayak: make people rack-up their brains and get involved
(10:57:32 PM) dtsdwarak: until then "Please be patient" :P
(10:57:43 PM) dtsdwarak: +1 Sayak
(10:57:43 PM) Sayak: gauthamraj: great question!!
(10:57:48 PM) Debloper left the room (quit: Quit: Leaving.).
(10:58:11 PM) kinshuk: i am planning to soon give a talk about
"introducing nemo"
(10:58:20 PM) Debloper [G33K@B95D54E7.24588541.E435C74A.IP] entered the
room.
(10:58:20 PM) mode (+qo Debloper Debloper) by ChanServ
(10:58:24 PM) kinshuk: will then contribute that presentation deck to
marketing of nemo :D
(10:58:27 PM) dtsdwarak: mera bhagwan kinshuk bhaiya !
(10:58:27 PM) gauthamraj: for d time being , why not a mozillians
profile for some most active contributors?
(10:58:36 PM) kinshuk: :D
(10:58:41 PM) dtsdwarak: what do I owe you ?
(10:58:51 PM) gauthamraj: Great Kinshuk
(10:59:07 PM) Sayak: Could someone here please take a session on NeMo
during MozCanival?
(10:59:16 PM) Sayak: an interactive one
(10:59:27 PM) kinshuk: if you pay for my tickets, i will
(10:59:28 PM) kinshuk: XD
(10:59:39 PM) gauthamraj: why not kinshuk?
(10:59:44 PM) dtsdwarak: +1 gauthamraj
(10:59:45 PM) Sayak: You have already filed for them, I've seen
(10:59:46 PM) Sayak: ;)
(11:00:01 PM) Sayak: yes! kinshuk would be perfect
(11:00:22 PM) kinshuk: filing them and getting them are two different
things brah :D
(11:00:38 PM) dtsdwarak: Debloper will also do :)
(11:00:41 PM) gauthamraj: only he will be perfect i guess..#really
impressed
(11:01:02 PM) Sayak: hmm, if my budget request gets approved, maybe You
will
(11:01:08 PM) Sayak: kinshuk:
(11:01:39 PM) kinshuk: hope.start();
(11:01:40 PM) kinshuk: D:
(11:01:46 PM) Debloper: heh, I'd love if kinshuk does it...
(11:01:50 PM) Sayak: Debloper: is already doing some evil scientific
research on some high end webmaking session!!
(11:02:00 PM) kinshuk: Sayak, so says Debloper
(11:02:00 PM) Debloper: ^^^ yeah :P
(11:02:04 PM) kinshuk: dont trust him unless he does it
(11:02:15 PM) Sayak: so kinshuk is the only option left
(11:02:38 PM) Sayak: Debloper: :O is it so??
(11:02:57 PM) Debloper: Sayak: says the wise one... you must trust!
(11:02:59 PM) Debloper: :P
(11:03:07 PM) Sayak: :D
(11:03:35 PM) Sayak: wow so I have two confirmed sessions for
MozCarnival!! :D
(11:03:46 PM) Sayak: now back to NeMo please
(11:04:08 PM) Debloper: a little offtopic, but since most of the people
who should be worried is here - take a look at this:
[21]https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=481292675222514&set=a.25857
8117493972.71179.187626964589088&type=1&permPage=1
(11:04:11 PM) dtsdwarak: Guys, you are truly awesome :) Thanks to
everyone of you. Especially Debloper and vineel
(11:04:13 PM) kinshuk: confirmed gino jab confirmation aaye
(11:04:22 PM) Debloper: one of my friend suggested it's not very good
translation.
(11:04:53 PM) Debloper: dtsdwarak: you go, boy! ;)
(11:04:59 PM) kinshuk: its not good
(11:05:02 PM) Sayak: it sounds wierd
(11:05:20 PM) Sayak: the hindi sounds like a doordarshan cricket
commentary
(11:05:25 PM) Debloper: :P
(11:05:33 PM) Debloper: ?????
(11:05:36 PM) Debloper: :-|
(11:05:37 PM) Debloper: :-|
(11:05:42 PM) Debloper: :-|
(11:05:46 PM) Debloper: xD :P
(11:06:07 PM) gauthamraj: Okay guys..I am leaving as well :) Hope to
see you rocking and awesome guys at mozcarnival :)
(11:06:13 PM) Sayak: sounds like something totally innapropriate to the
context!! :P
(11:06:15 PM) Debloper left the room (quit: Connection reset by peer).
(11:06:24 PM) Sayak: bye gauthamraj
(11:06:36 PM) Sayak: see you at MozCarnival
(11:06:41 PM) kinshuk: i shall go now too
(11:06:50 PM) Debloper [G33K@B95D54E7.24588541.E435C74A.IP] entered the
room.
(11:06:50 PM) mode (+qo Debloper Debloper) by ChanServ
(11:06:53 PM) kinshuk: need to go to csgo :D
(11:06:57 PM) kinshuk: go, go, go!
(11:07:02 PM) gauthamraj: see you sayak
(11:07:04 PM) Sayak: csgo?
(11:07:18 PM) Sayak: :s
(11:08:38 PM) kinshuk: sayak ?
(11:08:40 PM) gauthamraj: btw , you guys coming for fb worldhack @
bangalore?
(11:08:48 PM) kinshuk: not me
(11:08:56 PM) Sayak: kinshuk: what csgo?
(11:09:06 PM) Sayak: i'm planning to
(11:09:08 PM) kinshuk: "what csgo" ?
(11:09:08 PM) dtsdwarak: kinshuk, thanks yaar. FOSS.IN replied finally
(11:09:13 PM) Sayak: not sure though
(11:09:18 PM) kinshuk: what world do you live in Sayak
(11:09:31 PM) kinshuk: dtsdwarak, great. so did that work out ?
(11:09:34 PM) Sayak: this world!!
(11:09:41 PM) dtsdwarak: yeah
(11:10:05 PM) kinshuk: dtsdwarak, great
(11:10:06 PM) Sayak: but i still dont get csgo!! :O
(11:10:07 PM) dtsdwarak: they agreed for me to be a part of the
conference
(11:10:15 PM) kinshuk: Sayak, next jabbhi milega, chaped khayega
(11:10:31 PM) kinshuk: dtsdwarak, awesome.. you can probably also
represent mozilla there
(11:10:41 PM) dtsdwarak: hopefully, yeah !
(11:10:43 PM) Sayak: :s :O
(11:11:12 PM) kinshuk: Sayak,
http://blog.counter-strike.net/index.php/2012/08/4472/
(11:11:21 PM) kinshuk: all work, no fun, makes Sayak a dull boy
(11:11:40 PM) Sayak: Ooh CS!!
(11:11:46 PM) Sayak: tell that na
(11:11:51 PM) kinshuk: csgo
(11:11:53 PM) kinshuk: bola tha na
(11:11:56 PM) kinshuk: cs = cs1.6
(11:12:08 PM) kinshuk: css = cascading stylesheets OR counterstriek
source
(11:12:16 PM) kinshuk: csgo = counterstrike: global offensive
(11:12:17 PM) Sayak: heheh
(11:12:39 PM) kinshuk: if you have $15 ready to invest in a game, get
csgo
(11:12:41 PM) Sayak: I haven't played a single game since i came to
pune
(11:12:49 PM) Sayak: :(
(11:13:06 PM) Sayak: My PC's rooting back home!! *phew*
(11:13:12 PM) Sayak: *rotting
(11:13:29 PM) dtsdwarak: Okay guys. I gotta leave. Cya soon :)
(11:13:31 PM) dtsdwarak: bye
(11:13:37 PM) Sayak: bye dtsdwarak
(11:13:38 PM) Sayak: :)
(11:13:47 PM) vineel: Thanks for the meeting and bye all! :)
(11:13:52 PM) dtsdwarak: bye vineel
(11:14:00 PM) gauthamraj: bye vineel
(11:14:12 PM) Sayak: bye vineel
(11:14:14 PM) Sayak: :)
(11:14:41 PM) Sayak: gauthamraj: would you be interested in conducting
a session during MozCarnival?
  Links:
    9. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ODzp31zAUN0cBpZWJbA2s_k7SD1IzdEuCY2Qo3sMlXs/edit?pli=1
    12. mailto:nemo@lists.mozilla.org
    13. mailto:nemo@list.mozilla.org
    21. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=481292675222514&set=a.258578117493972.71179.187626964589088&type=1&permPage=1
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