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Thanks to our [http://developer.mozilla.org/en/Glossary#FotT Friends of the Tree]  When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size and send it to [mailto:rebron@mozillamessaging.com rebron@mozillamessaging.com] so that he can send them a shirt!
Thanks to our [http://developer.mozilla.org/en/Glossary#FotT Friends of the Tree]  When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size and send it to [mailto:rebron@mozillamessaging.com rebron@mozillamessaging.com] so that he can send them a shirt!
* New [http://bit.ly/9hzJqh Friend of the Tree t-shirt] grey but also coming in a Stone blue.


=== Conversion Funnel (Priority 0 side project) ===
=== Conversion Funnel (Priority 0 side project) ===
* Funnel Cake 2 next week, looking to do a German version as well.
* Conversion #'s after 3 months shows us at 78% retention. 
* ISPDB conversion is steady at 30-39%.  Top missing domains: secureserver.net, psmtp.com, ocn.ad.jp, rr.com, at.net, ovh.net, aon.at, go2.pl, virginmedia.com, netease.com.


=== Thunderbird Development ===
=== Thunderbird Development ===


==== [[Thunderbird:Feature Work|Feature Work]]====
==== [[Thunderbird:Feature Work|Feature Work]]====
* Pluggable store (maildir) is making progress - working through unit test failures now
* Mail account provisioning development has started, with a repo at http://hg.mozilla.org/users/bwinton_latte.ca/accountprovisioner/  Feedback/suggestions/pre-code-reviews welcome.


==== 3.2 ====
==== 3.2 ====


* '''Help Wanted''': Working on getting the trunk stable and significant issues fixed. See [http://groups.google.com/group/tb-planning/browse_frm/thread/d19b34f29c5dad4 thread on tb-planning].
* Initial [http://groups.google.com/group/tb-planning/browse_frm/thread/f2a72996faae24f6 tb-planning thread], quick summary:
** 3.2 based off a comm-1.9.2 with mozilla-1.9.2 with limited back-ported features and fixes.
** Would allow some API changes (many for extensions benefit) and string changes.
** Next trunk release would be after FF 4 ships, possibly as little as one month, depending on what state our trunk is in, features landed etc.


==== Major updates to 3.1 ====
==== Major updates to 3.1 ====
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* Bug Lists: [http://hg.mozilla.org/users/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com/drivertools/raw-file/default/bugtracking/index.html?branch=3.1 3.1], [http://hg.mozilla.org/users/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com/drivertools/raw-file/default/bugtracking/index.html?branch=3.0 3.0]
* Bug Lists: [http://hg.mozilla.org/users/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com/drivertools/raw-file/default/bugtracking/index.html?branch=3.1 3.1], [http://hg.mozilla.org/users/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com/drivertools/raw-file/default/bugtracking/index.html?branch=3.0 3.0]


==== Experiments ====
==== [[Thunderbird/Experiments|Experiments]] ====
 
* [http://mozillalabs.com/messaging Messaging Add-ons]
** [http://mozillalabs.com/messaging/mailing-list-manager/ Mailing List Manager] released
* Sent out list of current experiments to tb-planning
** https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2010-July/000377.html
* Add-on experiment planned for release next week


=== QA Updates ===
=== QA Updates ===
* working on 3.0.6
* working on 3.1.1
* Usage of [tb-qa] in subjects to flag messages on mdat


=== Marketing Updates  ===
=== Marketing Updates  ===
* PR Update: [http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2010/07/mozilla-ups-bounty-for-reporting-vulnerabilities-to-3000.ars Mozilla Bug Bounty increase to $3k from $500], [http://news.softpedia.com/news/Mozilla-Explains-the-Reason-for-Releasing-Experimental-New-Features-as-Add-ons-146835.shtml Mozilla Explains the Reason for Releasing Experimental New Features as Add-ons]
* Tb Stats: 5.4MM ADUs w/ 12% on latest release, steady 75k+ downloads
* Tb 3.1.1/3.0.6 announcements and follow-ups
* Tracking Mozilla Newsletter program
* New t-shirts (grey/stone blue), testing out embroidered products (hats,shirt), and other logo products (bags, stickers)


=== IT update  ===
=== IT update  ===
* Thunderbird 3.0.6
* Thunderbird 3.1.1
* New builders on : Linux + Linux64
* TryServer progress


=== Documentation ===
=== Documentation ===
* contacted local universities and technical schools that have tech writing programs regarding giving a talk in the autumn
* practicum student (Mike) starting today
* new Thunderbird [http://en.flossmanuals.net/ FLOSS Manual]  ([http://lists.flossmanuals.net/pipermail/discuss-flossmanuals.net/ FLOSS Manuals discussion list archive])
* Summit loose ends / general catch-up (MDC / MCD; Doccelerator / Skywriter; etc)
* update [http://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/Global+Search Global Search article], [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=577484 bug # 577484]


=== Support ===
=== Support ===
# [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/Thunderbird3.1SupportIssues 3.1 Support Issues] - nothing really major so far, seems to be better than 3.0.x - please add your support issues to the Discussion page of this wiki page '''still a work in progress'''
# still assimilating lessons of [http://summit.mozilla.org/ #moz10] - amazing contributors and technology
# looking forward to working with Jen's intern on Improving SuMoMo
# See [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2010-07-20/SupportAppendix|this week's Support Appendix]] for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details - welcome back to GS contributor [http://getsatisfaction.com/people/michael_a_pasek Michael Pasek]!


=== Lightning Updates ===
=== Lightning Updates ===
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=== Roundtable Highlights ===
=== Roundtable Highlights ===
* Trunk maintenance
** Getting too difficult/lots of maintenance to keep open - too much non-libxul build bustages
** Proposed route for trunk:
**# Go for the libxul option 2 asap.
**#* We know we're going to libxul
**#* It will fix the current bustage, and protect us from any more non-libxul versus libxul
**#* Support shared builds as a lower priority option - developers can back up to a working version, but tree can remain open.
**# Let the work that is being done on external API finish
**#* because I can see devs, and maybe linux distros, wanting this.
**# Do some performances tests of internal & external APIs.
**# Make decision on which to ship with Thunderbird trunk.


=== Attendees  ===
=== Attendees  ===
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Latest revision as of 16:47, 20 July 2010

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Current Release Schedules
Thunderbird 3.2 Thunderbird 3.1.1 Thunderbird 3.0.6
To Be Announced
  • Relbranch opens: June 24
  • Code & L10 freeze: July 13
  • Builds start: July 13
  • QA with builds start: July 14
  • Beta period starts: July 15
  • Final release: July 20
  • Relbranch opens: June 18
  • Code freeze: July 1
  • L10n freeze: July 1
  • Builds start: July 1
  • QA with builds start: July 2
  • Beta period starts: July 13
  • Final release: July 20


Thunderbird Meeting Details :

Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!

Agenda

Action Items

Friends of the Tree

Thanks to our Friends of the Tree When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size and send it to rebron@mozillamessaging.com so that he can send them a shirt!

Conversion Funnel (Priority 0 side project)

  • Funnel Cake 2 next week, looking to do a German version as well.
  • Conversion #'s after 3 months shows us at 78% retention.
  • ISPDB conversion is steady at 30-39%. Top missing domains: secureserver.net, psmtp.com, ocn.ad.jp, rr.com, at.net, ovh.net, aon.at, go2.pl, virginmedia.com, netease.com.

Thunderbird Development

Feature Work

3.2

  • Initial tb-planning thread, quick summary:
    • 3.2 based off a comm-1.9.2 with mozilla-1.9.2 with limited back-ported features and fixes.
    • Would allow some API changes (many for extensions benefit) and string changes.
    • Next trunk release would be after FF 4 ships, possibly as little as one month, depending on what state our trunk is in, features landed etc.

Major updates to 3.1

  • Expecting to push prompted major updates to TB 3.1.1.
    • Initial 3.0.6 -> 3.1.1 push planned for 27th July.
    • Initial 2.0.0.24 -> 3.1.1 push planned for 3rd August.

Thunderbird Stability & Security Releases

  • Releasing TB 3.0.6 and 3.1.1 the same time as FF 3.6.7
  • Bug Lists: 3.1, 3.0

Experiments

QA Updates

  • working on 3.0.6
  • working on 3.1.1
  • Usage of [tb-qa] in subjects to flag messages on mdat

Marketing Updates

IT update

  • Thunderbird 3.0.6
  • Thunderbird 3.1.1
  • New builders on : Linux + Linux64
  • TryServer progress

Documentation

Support

  1. 3.1 Support Issues - nothing really major so far, seems to be better than 3.0.x - please add your support issues to the Discussion page of this wiki page still a work in progress
  2. still assimilating lessons of #moz10 - amazing contributors and technology
  3. looking forward to working with Jen's intern on Improving SuMoMo
  4. See this week's Support Appendix for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details - welcome back to GS contributor Michael Pasek!

Lightning Updates

Status updates

See the Mozilla Status Board for status updates specific to developers.

Roundtable Highlights

  • Trunk maintenance
    • Getting too difficult/lots of maintenance to keep open - too much non-libxul build bustages
    • Proposed route for trunk:
      1. Go for the libxul option 2 asap.
        • We know we're going to libxul
        • It will fix the current bustage, and protect us from any more non-libxul versus libxul
        • Support shared builds as a lower priority option - developers can back up to a working version, but tree can remain open.
      2. Let the work that is being done on external API finish
        • because I can see devs, and maybe linux distros, wanting this.
      3. Do some performances tests of internal & external APIs.
      4. Make decision on which to ship with Thunderbird trunk.

Attendees