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= Mozilla QA Meeting Sept 10 2014 =
 # Every Weds @ 1:30p Pacific Time - Mozilla HQ, Room: QA
 #
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 # Phone:  +1 650 903 0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 9245 (US/INTL)
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 #         +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 9245 (Canada)
 # IRC:    irc://irc.mozilla.org:6697/#qa

== Actions From Last Week ==
* {{done | Geo to send out how to record these meetings}}
** Added to intranet wiki, will send email
* {{done| Everyone to try out E10S builds on nightly}}
* {{done| Ctalbert to ping airmo folks again}}


== Discussion Zone ==
* Note that we have a [https://etherpad.mozilla.org/qa-team-meeting-notes notepad], so we need a note-taker.
===  [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/QMO#2014_Re-design QMO Re-design] ===
* [marcia] [https://quality.mozilla.org/docs/ QMO Docs] that need updating before transfer to MDN need ownership assigned.
** see list made during [https://etherpad.mozilla.org/QMO-Docs-to-MDN-Sprint-2014-09-05 QMO Docs => MDN Sprint] on Fri Sep 5
* [clint] Looking for QMO Home page re-design suggestions: [https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.quality/TdZldqd01C8  dev-quality email thread]
** [http://qmo.pragmatictester.com/home-page/ Option 1]
** [https://people.mozilla.org/~ctalbert/qmo_design/index.html More Options]
** [http://github.com/mozilla/qmo-design Pragmatic's Github repo] to submit a pull request for your design, or just improvement in text
* [pragmatic] New QA Teams template ready to achieve uniformity on QMO. Each team could update its etherpad.
** Firefox QE https://etherpad.mozilla.org/QMO-Redesign-team-page-Desktop-Firefox
** Web QA https://etherpad.mozilla.org/QMO-Redesign-team-page-Web-QA
** Cloud Services QA https://etherpad.mozilla.org/QMO-Redesign-team-page-Cloud-Services-QA
** Mobile QA https://etherpad.mozilla.org/QMO-Redesign-team-page-Mobile-QA
** Platform QA https://etherpad.mozilla.org/QMO-Redesign-team-page-Platform-QA
** Firefox OS QA https://etherpad.mozilla.org/QMO-Redesign-team-page-Firefox-OS-QA
* [pragmatic] Mobile QA and Platform QA need description on [https://quality.mozilla.org/teams/ Teams page]

== QA Show and Tell ==

== Updates, Milestones, Deadlines (2min each call to action)==
* {{action| New version of Shumway merged, still off by default, to Nightly 35. To test, flip "shumway.disabled" pref to false.| mwobensmith, ctalbert, cpeterson}}
** One and Done task: https://oneanddone.mozilla.org/tasks/24/
* {{fyi|Desktop 32.0.1 will come soon, because of stability issues ({{bug|1063048}}, should also fix {{bug|1062452}}) and a rendering issue ({{bug|933733}}) - Android 32.0.1 has already been built, because of offset taps ({{bug|1046017}})}}

* Samples:
** A call to action: {{action|<Information>|<Contact Person>}}
** A notice of information (will be read only so make it complete, but don't write a novel): {{fyi|<Information>}}

== Upcoming Events ==
* "Test Automation in Large-Scale CDN" Meetup, by Akamai engineers, @LinkedIn - tomorrow, September 11, 2014 @7pm:
** http://www.meetup.com/South-Bay-Software-Quality-Engineering/events/201681502/
* [http://campus.openhatch.org/ Open Hatch 'Open Source Comes to Campus'] is a one-day workshop to teach the tools and culture of open source development and to help students impact real projects. 
** City College of San Francisco (San Francisco, CA) on Saturday, September 13th

== Community ==
=== QMO Re-design ===
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/QMO#2014_Re-design QMO Re-design] as a Q3 2014 Goal is on track. 
* [https://etherpad.mozilla.org/QMO-Redesign-Meeting-2014-09-04 Last Tiger Team meeting: Thu Sep 4]
** [https://quality.mozilla.org/ QMO] changed to remove Thunderbird; update Services section; add description for Firefox OS team; add Platform QA logo and page; rename ''Desktop Firefox'' to ''Firefox QE'' 
** Removed the content at https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/whois and added a link that points to https://quality.mozilla.org/teams/ page
** New QA Teams template ready 
*** Firefox QE https://etherpad.mozilla.org/QMO-Redesign-team-page-Desktop-Firefox
*** Web QA https://etherpad.mozilla.org/QMO-Redesign-team-page-Web-QA
*** Cloud Services QA https://etherpad.mozilla.org/QMO-Redesign-team-page-Cloud-Services-QA
*** Mobile QA https://etherpad.mozilla.org/QMO-Redesign-team-page-Mobile-QA
*** Platform QA https://etherpad.mozilla.org/QMO-Redesign-team-page-Platform-QA
*** Firefox OS QA https://etherpad.mozilla.org/QMO-Redesign-team-page-Firefox-OS-QA
** Solicited QMO Home page re-design suggestions on [https://github.com/mozilla/qmo-design Github repo]. [https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.quality/TdZldqd01C8  dev-quality email thread]. [http://qmo.pragmatictester.com/home-page/ Hosted here]
* [https://etherpad.mozilla.org/QMO-Docs-to-MDN-Sprint-2014-09-05 Last QMO Docs => MDN Sprint: Fri Sep 5]
** Existing [https://quality.mozilla.org/docs/ QMO Docs] triaged as need review / obsolete / can be transitioned to MDN right away.
** QMO Docs that are obsolete have been unpublished in the Wordpress platform, so no longer show up on QMO
** QMO Docs that need updating before transfer to MDN need ownership assigned.

=== QMO Champions ===
* Notes from last meeting: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/community-champions-20140905
* Agenda for this week's meeting: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/community-champions-20140912

== Contributor Spotlight ==
These are new contributors, if you see them around, say hello
*
=== Contributor Honor Roll ===
For those that went above and beyond this week, we salute you here.
*

== Quarter Goals ==
* Monthly Review: https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Goals/2014q3
** In-meeting review first meeting of every month

== Action Items and notes from the meeting ==
* Please '''bold''' action items. 
* We will take notes on [https://etherpad.mozilla.org/qa-team-meeting-notes this etherpad]


Fx32 regression - Bug 933733 Page doesn't load/render if the mouse is not moving 
Will be backed out in a respin for the planned point release due to other graphics driver issues.
AirMo - Note this meeting is being recorded for later upload. Not streamed live. 
QMO Docs that are pending review are not visible on the site until the review is completed.


There are QMO docs in need of owners and editing before being moved to MDN.
QMO Redesign:
Clint shows off some options for mock ups. 
6 options presented - option 6 and 4 shown in more details (see links)
6 is too busy for mobile
Concerns about having top link on page sending you to another site
Having get involved off to the side with main content centered flows better for the eyes
Options 3,4 & 5 are most popular.
Having the statics as a part of the top menu makes sense to most 
Consensus around a 2 column lay out
Each team has an ether pad for their team page to work out content for the new layout. 
contents of the ether pad will be posted to QMO once completed - email dev-quality when ready.


Shumway has merged into latest release - still off by default. Turn it on and file lots of bugs.  There are One and Done tasks for Shumway - the best way to do is go through these tasks, they contain a SWF library of content to use as test content.  Link will be added to the Wiki.
I'll add to wiki, but here it is: https://oneanddone.mozilla.org/en-US/tasks/24/


Community Call: Is not required for staff, it is supposed to be a place for outside community to talk to us and discuss their projects. It will also be done in conjunction with the A-Team.


December All  Hands Work Week:  Need to get list of community members who we want to invite.  
Agenda items for work needed as well.
Rare opportunity to have both QA and A-Team in same place for a work week.
Can we have all the crash kill people across QA and Eng together for a time.
Are we better off having our people attend more of the other teams meetings then being locked in our own the whole time.

A cross team session consisting of A-Team, Web Eng and QA to discuss the tools we use
Community building with other contributors 
'''ACTION: Working group: Stephen, Marc, Liz, Clint, Carl, Syd.'''

== Travel / PTO ==
* kthiessen out on PTO from Mon 2014-09-15 through Fri 2014-09-19
<small>Template available at: https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Team_Meeting/QA_Team_Template</small>

== For Further Information ==
All of these meetings listed below are open to the public. You're encouraged to join whichever interest you. Each meeting has an archive where the notes are captured, so in order to get a sense of what is happening on a specific project, feel free to either join or review the meeting notes archive. And if you have questions, you can always find us on IRC. 

=== [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Firefox Firefox QE] ===
* Who we are: Individuals focused on Firefox Desktop, Firefox Android, and Gecko Platform Quality
* Meetings held weekly on [http://arewemeetingyet.com/Los%20Angeles/2014-08-20/08:30/w/Firefox%20QE Wednesdays at 8:30AM Pacific Time]
* To Join:
** Vidyo: 
*** Room: QA-Desktop
*** [https://v.mozilla.com/flex.html?roomdirect.html&key=RU7dVysDFakY Vidyo Guest URL]
** Phone (use any of these):  
*** '''1-650-903-0800''' or '''1-650-215-1282''' US/INTL
*** '''1-800-707-2533''' Toll Free US/Skype
*** If using a 650 number, use Extension: '''92'''
*** If using the 1-800 number, use PIN: '''369'''
*** Conference Number: '''99779'''
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Firefox/TeamMeetings Meeting Notes Archive]
* Next Agenda: No published agenda

=== [https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/QA Firefox OS] ===
* Who we are: Individuals focused on Firefox OS Quality
* Meetings held weekly on [http://arewemeetingyet.com/Los%20Angeles/2014-08-20/17:00/w/Firefox%20OS%20QA Wednesdays at 5:00PM Pacific Time]
* To Join:
** Vidyo
*** Room: QA Vidyo Room (same as this meeting)
*** [https://v.mozilla.com/flex.html?roomdirect.html&key=nL4PESn1IaVh Guest URL] 
** Phone (use any of these):
*** '''1-650-903-0800''' or '''1-650-215-1282''' US/INTL
*** '''1-800-707-2533''' Toll Free US/Skype
*** If using a 650 number, use Extension: '''92'''
*** If using the 1-800 number, use PIN: '''369'''
*** Conference Number: '''9245'''
** IRC: irc://irc.mozilla.org:6697/#fxosqa
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/QA/Meetings Meeting Notes Archive]
* [https://mozqa.etherpad.mozilla.org/b2g-qa-roundtable Next Agenda]

=== [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Services Services QA] ===
* Who we are: Individuals focused on Quality of the services that power features of all products
* Meetings held weekly on [http://arewemeetingyet.com/Los%20Angeles/2014-08-25/15:30/w/Services%20QA Mondays at 3:30PM Pacfic Time]
* To Join:
** Vidyo
*** Room: QA (same as this meeting)
*** [https://v.mozilla.com/flex.html?roomdirect.html&key=nL4PESn1IaVh Guest URL] 
** Phone (use any of these):
*** '''1-650-903-0800''' or '''1-650-215-1282''' US/INTL
*** '''1-800-707-2533''' Toll Free US/Skype
*** If using a 650 number, use Extension: '''92'''
*** If using the 1-800 number, use PIN: '''369'''
*** Conference Number: '''9245'''
** IRC:    irc://irc.mozilla.org:6697/#qa
* Meeting Notes Archive: No archive
* Next Agenda: No published agenda

=== [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Execution/Web_Testing Web QA] ===
* Who we are: Individuals focused on maintaining the Quality of Mozilla's web properties, and improving the core QA websites we all use.
* Meetings held weekly on [http://arewemeetingyet.com/Los%20Angeles/2014-08-21/09:00/w/Web%20QA Thursdays at 9:00AM Pacific Time]
* To Join:
** Vidyo
*** Room: Stephen Donner
*** [https://v.mozilla.com/flex.html?roomdirect.html&key=ZAlDIwL9AJcf Guest URL]
** Phone (use any of these):
*** '''1-650-903-0800''' or '''1-650-215-1282''' US/INTL
*** '''1-800-707-2533''' Toll Free US/Skype
*** If using a 650 number, use Extension: '''92'''
*** If using the 1-800 number, use PIN: '''369'''
*** Conference Number: '''9303'''
** IRC: irc://irc.mozilla.org:6697/#mozwebqa
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Execution/Web_Testing/Meeting_Notes Meeting Notes Archive]
* Next Agenda: No published Agenda

=== Platform QA ===
* Who we are: Individuals focused on investigating and increasing Quality in the Gecko platform that underlies all our products
* Meetings 
** This team runs in two week sprints, so the meetings are a combination of planning and standups. First time contributors to this team are encouraged to attend the next sprint planning meeting.
** [http://arewemeetingyet.com/Los%20Angeles/2014-09-02/13:00/b/Sprint%20Planning%20for%20Platform%20QA Sprint Planning every other Tuesdays 1:00PM-2:00PM Pacific]
** Sprint Standups [http://arewemeetingyet.com/Los%20Angeles/2014-08-26/13:00/b/Sprint%20Planning%20for%20Platform%20QA every other Tuesday 1:30PM-2:00PM Pacific] PDT and [http://arewemeetingyet.com/Los%20Angeles/2014-08-29/10:00/w/Sprint%20Standup%20for%20Platform%20QA every Friday 10:00AM-10:30AM Pacific]
* To Join:
** Vidyo
*** Room: Platform-QA
*** Guest URL: <TBD>
** Phone:
*** '''1-650-903-0800''' or '''1-650-215-1282''' US/INTL
*** '''1-800-707-2533''' Toll Free US/Skype
*** If using a 650 number, use Extension: '''92'''
*** If using the 1-800 number, use PIN: '''369'''
*** Conference Number: '''98613'''
** IRC: irc://irc.mozilla.org:6697/#qa
* Instead of agenda, follow along on the [https://www.pivotaltracker.com/s/projects/1139894 Pivotal Tracker board]

=== Community Champions ===
* Who we are: Individuals from every aspect of QA focused on improving all aspects of our community involvement
* Meetings [http://arewemeetingyet.com/Los%20Angeles/2014-08-22/13:00/b/Community%20Champions held every Friday 1:00PM Pacific]
* To Join:
** Vidyo
*** Room: Marcia Knous
*** [https://v.mozilla.com/flex.html?roomdirect.html&key=7ZfgNjQBGgTa Guest URL]
** Phone:
*** '''1-650-903-0800''' or '''1-650-215-1282''' US/INTL
*** '''1-800-707-2533''' Toll Free US/Skype
*** If using a 650 number, use Extension: '''92'''
*** If using the 1-800 number, use PIN: '''369'''
*** Conference Number: '''9214'''
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Community_Champions#Meeting_Notes Meeting Notes Archive]
* Next Agenda: No Published Agenda

=== Crashkill ===
* Who we are: Individuals focused on monitoring and ensuring that reported crashes in our products get addressed
* Meetings [http://arewemeetingyet.com/Los%20Angeles/2014-08-25/10:00/w/Crashkill held weekly on Mondays at 10:00AM Pacific]
* To Join:
** Vidyo
*** Room: Stability
*** [https://v.mozilla.com/flex.html?roomdirect.html&key=Rrxgrs93WsX2 Guest URL]
** Phone:
*** '''1-650-903-0800''' or '''1-650-215-1282''' US/INTL
*** '''1-800-707-2533''' Toll Free US/Skype
*** If using a 650 number, use Extension: '''92'''
*** If using the 1-800 number, use PIN: '''369'''
*** Conference Number: '''98200'''
** IRC: irc://irc.mozilla.org:6697/#crashkill
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/CrashKill#Meeting_notes Meeting Notes Archive]
* Next Agenda: No Published Agenda