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There have been several people coming into <i>#firefox</i> reporting problems with hangs since installing Firefox 2. As far as I know the usual tests of safe mode and new profiles haven't turned up anything, and the lack of Talkback data makes it pretty hard to debug. As far as I know this is a Windows problem, but that may just be that there are many more users on this OS, and here are no steps to reproduce.
There have been several people coming into <i>#firefox</i> reporting problems with hangs since installing Firefox 2. As far as I know the usual tests of safe mode and new profiles haven't turned up anything, and the lack of Talkback data makes it pretty hard to debug. This also seems to be a Windows problem (but that may just be that there are many more users on this OS) and there are no steps to reproduce.


To try to make some progress, the entrepid Mook has adapted his crash utility to make it easier for noobies to use. The idea is that it triggers a crash, Talkback kicks in, and then there are stacks for clever people to look at. His page is [http://mook.moz.googlepages.com/ here], the util is called <tt>crash3</tt>.  
To try to make some progress, the intrepid Mook has adapted his crash utility to make it easier for noobies to use. The idea is that it triggers a crash, Talkback kicks in, and then there are stacks for clever people to look at. His page is [http://mook.moz.googlepages.com/ here], the util is called <tt>crash3</tt>.  


At the moment you would have to get a capable punter to
The steps to use it are
* download the [http://mook.moz.googlepages.com/crash3.exe Pre-built binary] and save it to the harddisk (eg somewhere like C:\temp)
* download the [http://mook.moz.googlepages.com/crash3.exe pre-built binary] and save it to the harddisk (the Desktop is convenient)
* open a command window and cd into the dir where it is saved
* open it (double clicking will do)
* give the command <tt>crash3 %</tt>
* confirm that it's attempting to kill the right application (firefox.exe) and hit enter. Otherwise bail out with Control-C or by closing the DOS window
* submit the talkback report
* submit the Talkback report
* [http://kb.mozillazine.org/Talkback#Find_out_where_the_agent_is_installed open Talkback]
* [http://kb.mozillazine.org/Talkback#Find_out_where_the_agent_is_installed open Talkback] (if not the first time it has run)
* copy the ID and paste it back to you
* copy the ID and paste it back to you


<tt>crash3</tt> looks for the process/thread that is consuming CPU and kills that, so we need to first check if these are CPU loaded hangs or zero/low CPU freezes.
<tt>crash3</tt> looks for the process/thread that is consuming more than 80% CPU, so we need to first verify if the person is suffering from CPU loaded hangs, or just zero/low CPU freezes.


Feel free to add Talkback ID's, summaries, speculation and so on below the line, at least until we narrow it down enough to file a bug (or bugs).
Feel free to add Talkback ID's, conversation summaries, speculation and so on below the line. Hopefully we can narrow it down enough to start to file a bug (or bugs).
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From [dMw]GhostMjr:
* Firefox 2 hanging with 100% CPU after only using it for a couple of minutes, hadn't had this problem with v1.5.
* [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=2&type=iid&id=TB25858878Z TB25858878Z] [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=2&type=iid&id=TB25858774E  TB25858774E] with TabMix Plus, Forecastfox, IE tab installed. Both Flash related (NPSWF32.dll) and short stacks.
* [http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1333 about:plugins], Shockwave Flash 9.0 r16 and many others installed.
* removed ActiveX plugin, still hung - [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=2&type=iid&id=TB25859864Y TB25859864Y ], Flash again
* they ran out of steam here :-(
[[User:CF|CF]] 14:47, 11 November 2006 (PST)
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From rocka:
* had trouble with Firefox <i>crashing</i> on flash pages, dunno about version difference
* [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=2&type=iid&id=TB25794238K  TB25794238K], [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=2&type=iid&id=TB25793909E TB25793909E], [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=2&type=iid&id=TB25790319Q TB25790319Q] - all NPSWF32.dll with 1-7 entries
* tried uninstalling Minefield, still crashed
* downloaded v6 of NPSWF32.dll from internet, which did not crash
Came back the next day
* Opera 9.10 also crashes, IE ok (not surprising given the different plugin model)
* hunt and destroy of NPSWF32.dll and flashplayer.xpt didn't help
And on the third day
* reported that Spyware Doctor had found 3 types of spyware/malware, one of them was [http://www.pctools.com/mrc/infections/id/Trojan.Downloader.Ruins/ Trojan.Downloader.Ruins]
* Flash no longer crashed after removing these infections
[[User:CF|CF]] 10:06, 12 November 2006 (PST)
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From Tomme:
My Firefox hangs for 10-20 seconds on *every* page load, 2-3 seconds after the page has rendered. Also hangs similarily during form entry. No differences on which web page. Have tried disable and uninstall every add-on and also tried to downgrade 2.0.0.3 and 2.0.0.2 without success. Runs on Vista 32bit.
* [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=2&type=iid&id=TB33504033K TB33504033K] , [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=2&type=iid&id=TB33504014K TB33504014K], [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=2&type=iid&id=TB33503988Z TB33503988Z] all produced with crash3.exe during page load freeze.

Latest revision as of 08:26, 27 June 2007

There have been several people coming into #firefox reporting problems with hangs since installing Firefox 2. As far as I know the usual tests of safe mode and new profiles haven't turned up anything, and the lack of Talkback data makes it pretty hard to debug. This also seems to be a Windows problem (but that may just be that there are many more users on this OS) and there are no steps to reproduce.

To try to make some progress, the intrepid Mook has adapted his crash utility to make it easier for noobies to use. The idea is that it triggers a crash, Talkback kicks in, and then there are stacks for clever people to look at. His page is here, the util is called crash3.

The steps to use it are

  • download the pre-built binary and save it to the harddisk (the Desktop is convenient)
  • open it (double clicking will do)
  • confirm that it's attempting to kill the right application (firefox.exe) and hit enter. Otherwise bail out with Control-C or by closing the DOS window
  • submit the Talkback report
  • open Talkback (if not the first time it has run)
  • copy the ID and paste it back to you

crash3 looks for the process/thread that is consuming more than 80% CPU, so we need to first verify if the person is suffering from CPU loaded hangs, or just zero/low CPU freezes.

Feel free to add Talkback ID's, conversation summaries, speculation and so on below the line. Hopefully we can narrow it down enough to start to file a bug (or bugs).


From [dMw]GhostMjr:

  • Firefox 2 hanging with 100% CPU after only using it for a couple of minutes, hadn't had this problem with v1.5.
  • TB25858878Z TB25858774E with TabMix Plus, Forecastfox, IE tab installed. Both Flash related (NPSWF32.dll) and short stacks.
  • about:plugins, Shockwave Flash 9.0 r16 and many others installed.
  • removed ActiveX plugin, still hung - TB25859864Y , Flash again
  • they ran out of steam here :-(

CF 14:47, 11 November 2006 (PST)


From rocka:

  • had trouble with Firefox crashing on flash pages, dunno about version difference
  • TB25794238K, TB25793909E, TB25790319Q - all NPSWF32.dll with 1-7 entries
  • tried uninstalling Minefield, still crashed
  • downloaded v6 of NPSWF32.dll from internet, which did not crash

Came back the next day

  • Opera 9.10 also crashes, IE ok (not surprising given the different plugin model)
  • hunt and destroy of NPSWF32.dll and flashplayer.xpt didn't help

And on the third day

  • reported that Spyware Doctor had found 3 types of spyware/malware, one of them was Trojan.Downloader.Ruins
  • Flash no longer crashed after removing these infections

CF 10:06, 12 November 2006 (PST)


From Tomme:

My Firefox hangs for 10-20 seconds on *every* page load, 2-3 seconds after the page has rendered. Also hangs similarily during form entry. No differences on which web page. Have tried disable and uninstall every add-on and also tried to downgrade 2.0.0.3 and 2.0.0.2 without success. Runs on Vista 32bit.