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* I think Folletto's glass toolbar buttons look better (in mock-ups, at least). The matte whitish ones somehow look a bit too plain
* I think Folletto's glass toolbar buttons look better (in mock-ups, at least). The matte whitish ones somehow look a bit too plain
** Hmm, I like the macbook keys. Otherwise it would be too shiny since OSX seems to move away from the shiny. Now it is nicely mixed :P Maybe I will try something else next time but I kinda fell in love with them [[User:JurMous|JurMous]]
** Hmm, I like the macbook keys. Otherwise it would be too shiny since OSX seems to move away from the shiny. Now it is nicely mixed :P Maybe I will try something else next time but I kinda fell in love with them [[User:JurMous|JurMous]]
*** I don't dislike them, they do fit well and I wouldn't be upset if they were chosen.. I just prefer the glassy ones a bit more. But I haven't experienced them in large and that can change everything. [[User:W.woods|W.woods]]
* But I think the less-saturated, slightly darker colours of JurMous's mock-ups fit the theme better. The lighter blue reload button reminds me too much of the toxic blue one we have in Fx 2 :) And the bright green on the location bar is a bit glary
* But I think the less-saturated, slightly darker colours of JurMous's mock-ups fit the theme better. The lighter blue reload button reminds me too much of the toxic blue one we have in Fx 2 :) And the bright green on the location bar is a bit glary
* Philosophical arguments aside, I think tabs look strange being attached to the bookmarks toolbar. They're completely unrelated parts of the UI
* Philosophical arguments aside, I think tabs look strange being attached to the bookmarks toolbar. They're completely unrelated parts of the UI
** It is strange logically but aesthetically they look better there. And in every Apple app they are attached to top. So it would blend better on OSX.[[User:JurMous|JurMous]]
** It is strange logically but aesthetically they look better there. And in every Apple app they are attached to top. So it would blend better on OSX.[[User:JurMous|JurMous]]
*** We'll just have to disagree there. I find the effect jarring and confusing. I think the definite aesthetic improvement of your tab style over Folletto's is the shading effect which makes them look much deeper when they're backgrounded. But that could be done regardless of which direction they're attached. [[User:W.woods|W.woods]]
* If the home button stays (and I hope it will) perhaps a different, unique, solid colour? We already have a lot of green on there
* If the home button stays (and I hope it will) perhaps a different, unique, solid colour? We already have a lot of green on there
** I was previously testing with a dark purple [[http://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Firefox3/Theme/MacOSX&oldid=69815]] bottom [[User:JurMous|JurMous]]
** I was previously testing with a dark purple [[http://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Firefox3/Theme/MacOSX&oldid=69815]] bottom [[User:JurMous|JurMous]]
*** That purple looks like an intense magenta on my screen. What about a more earthy colour, like a darker version of the colour that the lock and rss icons are in the same mock-up you mentioned? [[User:W.woods|W.woods]]
* Have you considered how it looks with the "standard" RSS icon, seeing that really is becoming a (de facto?) standard?
* Have you considered how it looks with the "standard" RSS icon, seeing that really is becoming a (de facto?) standard?
** Will try it next time.[[User:JurMous|JurMous]]
** Will try it next time.[[User:JurMous|JurMous]]
* Bookmarks toolbar: in the mock-ups, how about adding a hover effect over one of the buttons, so we can see what they look like when active. Maybe a squarer, more space-efficient shape would look good with the new theme?
* Bookmarks toolbar: in the mock-ups, how about adding a hover effect over one of the buttons, so we can see what they look like when active. Maybe a squarer, more space-efficient shape would look good with the new theme?
** Will try it next time [[User:JurMous|JurMous]]
** Will try it next time [[User:JurMous|JurMous]]
* I'd love to see a mock-up of the bookmarks toolbar with favicons restored, especially when the toolbar is full and it'll otherwise look like a grey jungle. This would also allow for an rss icon to be attached to livemarks, but still keep a dropmarker. The current solution (just having an rss icon AS the dropmarker) gives no suggestion that it's even a drop menu. Even if it ultimately doesn't fit the theme, I think it's worth investigating
* I'd love to see a mock-up of the bookmarks toolbar with favicons restored, especially when the toolbar is full and it'll otherwise look like a grey jungle. This would also allow for an rss icon to be attached to livemarks, but still keep a dropmarker. The current solution (just having an rss icon AS the dropmarker) gives no suggestion that it's even a drop menu. Even if it ultimately doesn't fit the theme, I think it's worth investigating.
** I think the favicons make the bookmark bar a color jungle. The bookmarks are there for when you need them and not constantly drawing attention. [[User:JurMous|JurMous]]
** I think the favicons make the bookmark bar a color jungle. The bookmarks are there for when you need them and not constantly drawing attention. [[User:JurMous|JurMous]]
*** There was a lot of discussion about this on bug 348719. They're not more distracting than icons on tabs, I think. But they do allow a user to reduce their bookmarks bar significantly by relying on just icons and minimal (if any) text. I use Firefox on Windows and Mac on a daily basis, and this is the thing I miss most in the UI of the latter. I don't have high hopes they'll return, but I'd be interested to see how they look. I had them working with the current theme and I thought it looked noticeably poorer when I went back to builds without them, but I'm probably biased ;) [[User:W.woods|W.woods]]


--[[User:W.woods|W.woods]] 03:51, 30 September 2007 (PDT)
--[[User:W.woods|W.woods]] 03:51, 30 September 2007 (PDT)


Thanks for your comments! [[User:JurMous|JurMous]] 04:59, 30 September 2007 (PDT)
Thanks for your comments! [[User:JurMous|JurMous]] 04:59, 30 September 2007 (PDT)

Revision as of 13:03, 30 September 2007

This is looking really impressive so far, guys! I'm glad to see you've managed to maintain colour in the theme and still make it look native. My thoughts so far:

  • I think Folletto's glass toolbar buttons look better (in mock-ups, at least). The matte whitish ones somehow look a bit too plain
    • Hmm, I like the macbook keys. Otherwise it would be too shiny since OSX seems to move away from the shiny. Now it is nicely mixed :P Maybe I will try something else next time but I kinda fell in love with them JurMous
      • I don't dislike them, they do fit well and I wouldn't be upset if they were chosen.. I just prefer the glassy ones a bit more. But I haven't experienced them in large and that can change everything. W.woods
  • But I think the less-saturated, slightly darker colours of JurMous's mock-ups fit the theme better. The lighter blue reload button reminds me too much of the toxic blue one we have in Fx 2 :) And the bright green on the location bar is a bit glary
  • Philosophical arguments aside, I think tabs look strange being attached to the bookmarks toolbar. They're completely unrelated parts of the UI
    • It is strange logically but aesthetically they look better there. And in every Apple app they are attached to top. So it would blend better on OSX.JurMous
      • We'll just have to disagree there. I find the effect jarring and confusing. I think the definite aesthetic improvement of your tab style over Folletto's is the shading effect which makes them look much deeper when they're backgrounded. But that could be done regardless of which direction they're attached. W.woods
  • If the home button stays (and I hope it will) perhaps a different, unique, solid colour? We already have a lot of green on there
    • I was previously testing with a dark purple [[1]] bottom JurMous
      • That purple looks like an intense magenta on my screen. What about a more earthy colour, like a darker version of the colour that the lock and rss icons are in the same mock-up you mentioned? W.woods
  • Have you considered how it looks with the "standard" RSS icon, seeing that really is becoming a (de facto?) standard?
  • Bookmarks toolbar: in the mock-ups, how about adding a hover effect over one of the buttons, so we can see what they look like when active. Maybe a squarer, more space-efficient shape would look good with the new theme?
  • I'd love to see a mock-up of the bookmarks toolbar with favicons restored, especially when the toolbar is full and it'll otherwise look like a grey jungle. This would also allow for an rss icon to be attached to livemarks, but still keep a dropmarker. The current solution (just having an rss icon AS the dropmarker) gives no suggestion that it's even a drop menu. Even if it ultimately doesn't fit the theme, I think it's worth investigating.
    • I think the favicons make the bookmark bar a color jungle. The bookmarks are there for when you need them and not constantly drawing attention. JurMous
      • There was a lot of discussion about this on bug 348719. They're not more distracting than icons on tabs, I think. But they do allow a user to reduce their bookmarks bar significantly by relying on just icons and minimal (if any) text. I use Firefox on Windows and Mac on a daily basis, and this is the thing I miss most in the UI of the latter. I don't have high hopes they'll return, but I'd be interested to see how they look. I had them working with the current theme and I thought it looked noticeably poorer when I went back to builds without them, but I'm probably biased ;) W.woods

--W.woods 03:51, 30 September 2007 (PDT)

Thanks for your comments! JurMous 04:59, 30 September 2007 (PDT)