QA/SoftVision/Meetings/Desktop:2014-05-21

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Desktop QA Standup - May 21st, 2014

Dial-in Information

Attendees: tracy, Matt, Juan, Marc, Mihaela, Kamil, Bogdan, Florin, Francesca, Maja, Nils, Paul, Petruta, Catalin, Liz, KaiRo

Heads-Up

  • Upcoming PTOs:
    • juanb - PTO - May 21-26
    • lizzard May 22-26 (PTO for 22/23)
    • Cornel - May 23
    • Catalin - May 26-30

Upcoming Schedule

Previous Action Items

  • root cause project, list of areas, some numbers
  • absence of qa flag means qa?; qa+/- happening during iteration triage, getting better
  • need to finalize which tags/flags we will use so we can communicate them broadly and start using them
  • thoughts on "root cause" project (https://docs.google.com/document/d/16OVgqQxsjMVpOHcAQ7B5py4BpahiEL24q6oo5pZy_bs/edit )
    • looking at reopened bugs + regressions, by component, in Core + Firefox (lizzard)
    • interested to see if there are particular hot spots where we might focus more QA attention.
    • should probably focus on Core -- I suspect "big" components like JS Engine and Graphics need better attention -- in particular we have next to no regression coverage for WebGL -- Firefox probably has good coverage given all teams are on the Iterative Development process now (ashughes)
    • template for bug investigation: https://docs.google.com/a/mozilla.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Au-Dw_f8snrydDhseUczVFY0Z2pmSnMwc2JYdG5McEE&usp=sharing#gid=0
  • iterative development process (ashughes)
    • engineering seems to have bought in to setting qa+/- as part of the planning/work selection process when the answer is known -- this should help ease the triage burden and noise in bugzilla

[clint-thought] - we could let engineering continue setting that in the QA whiteboard and then translate that into keywords or what-have you. (Just because it's hard to change people's habits it might be easier to do this than try to change them). - My two cents.

    • we'll still have qa? bugs for the meantime but how do people feel about deprecating that as a catch-all, use it as an uncertainty flag -- anything without a qa tag with an iteration tag would essentially act as our funnel +1

Discussion Items

  • Firefox QA reorg

Channel Status

Beta (Fx 30) (Tracy/KaiRo)

  • beta6 was delayed a day due to late landings. I'll be sending push to release shortly.

Aurora (Fx 31) (Anthony/Liz)

Nightly (Fx 32) (Juan/Kamil)

ESR (Fx 24.6)

Security

More pkix testing, cert pinning, root cert removal project

Automation

Stability

  • 29 release is slightly worse than 28 apparently, crash rate increase in the ~5% range
  • 30 beta is worse than 29 so far, but some fixed crashes need to be weeded out by updates still, including bug 1002748 and bug 1009624, and we have two top-10 regressions in plugin shutdown: bug 883134 and bug 1013972.

Community

Notes and Actions

  • KaiRo - check with telemetry about shutdown hangs
  • KaiRo - post about keywords.
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