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SeaMonkey Meeting Details


  • Who's taking minutes? -> Ratty
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank?
    • Please note A person or entity can't be nominated twice in a row.

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.



  • IanN to triage the 2.1-wanted and 2.1-nominated bugs, and move any that are appropriate to 2.2.


  • IanN to look at what needs to go into comm-aurora and comm-beta from comm-central. Due to string changes we have to be selective in which changesets to go into the merge [Done].


  • Get permission from Google to use their geolocation JSON service [KaiRo]. We can still only wait on the Google front right now. Didn't hear anything about open Geolocation service yet. No easy solution in sight.

Release Train

  • SeaMonkey will directly go the the permanent repositories, i.e. -aurora, -beta in addition to -central. Miramar is a Thunderbird-only release branch (as is comm-2.0 for SeaMonkey).
  • For comm-aurora, we can let a few more things slip in, but we also should regard strings there as much frozen as possible. In the future, string freeze is the uplift from central to aurora, which matches Firefox.
  • If we have any actual fixes that don't need L10n changes (not enhancements) on central but not beta, they should go there if possible.
  • SeaMonkey comm-aurora and comm-beta are buildable and tinderbox has run tests against them.
  • Callek is working on getting comm-aurora and comm-beta on MXR (bug 653424).
  • The correct version numbers are now on the release train.
  • We'll probably need an update on the AUS server to support aurora nightlies correctly.
  • We'll need to ensure that we set the correct channel for aurora nightlies. Leaving this to Callek.
    • AUS is fine. It's the buildbot stuff and Callek needs to deal with it.
  • We have released 2.2b1.
    • As FF shipped 5.0, we should be concentrating on getting a 2.2 out the door, especially as it has some fixes for issues in 2.1.
  • 5th July is next the merge date for both mozilla and comm repositories.
    • 2.3 should go into beta then and then we'll have 6 weeks to release.
  • Bug authors have been doing a fairly good job of requesting relevant approvals for the comm-aurora/beta.

SeaMonkey 2.1

open blockers (0) blocker requests (0) targeted (0) fixed (64)

  • AUS updates from (2.0 -> 2.1) are TBA (Callek?) Status/update?
  • Callek fixed bug 663636 (Missing addons, directory distribution/extensions is not there) for 2.2.
  • Fallen has just set Lightning 1.0b4 on AMO to be 2.2.* compatible.
  • AMO has a compatible version of Engimail now, and an experimental one for Lightning. Unfortunately these two Calendar extensions must be sought under Thunderbird and "All versions".
  • Besides Lightning, we should also take a look at other add-ons that are important for our users when they switch to 2.1.
    • InvisibleSmiley maintained a list, created a wiki page and posted a newsgroup message regarding this. Done.
    • There is a version of Autofill Forms that is compatible with SeaMonkey 2.1 on Ratty has pinged one of the authors and asked him to upload a SeaMonkey compatible version to AMO, but still hasn't gotten a reply yet.
    • Useful query:
  • InvisibleSmiley created a 2.1 FAQ Wiki page. Several people helped updating it.
  • KaiRo created a SeaMonkey Features page and sub-pages for all those that are in development.

SeaMonkey 2.2

open tracking (5) tracking requests (0) targeted (1) fixed (34)

We should release as soon as we can after FF5.

Further 2.x scheduling:

  • Current release notes are for 2.2b1. Once we have 2.2b2 or later, relnotes need to be updated, esp. for bug 666518 (Stop making extensions optional in SeaMonkey's installer).
    • 2.2bX and 2.2 share release notes, so the existing ones should be updated.
    • We already have the Firefox 4 -> Firefox 5 related changes. InvisibleSmiley hasn't yet had time to incorporate Thunderbird 5 changes that landed since SeaMonkey 2.1.
    • We have a bug on 2.2 Release Notes (bug 665682) and anything that's missing should go there.
  • Please help updating the New 2.2 Features page as we go.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for last two (full) weeks: 86 new, 35 fixed, 33 triaged.

Open reviews/flags: 40 review 14 super-review 0 ui-review 8 feedback

Major wanted/needed features:


  • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition [IanN].
    • A lot of untangling needs to go on between the 3 editors that we have. We can expect a bit of code cleanup for 2.1 but full customization has to go to as it needs work on TB too which is taking a while to get reviews on, plus feedback from kaze.
  • We need to finish bug 654864 soon, but none of Neil's comments on bug 422845 triggered any response, so InvisibleSmiley feels reluctant to continue. Still he uploaded yet another version.
    • IanN filed and fixed a Thunderbird bug (bug 663631 Simplify getParentIndex in folderPane.js and jsTreeView.js) to help move things forward.

Needing help, Unowned, Stalled

  • Kill-RDF:
    • bug 657607 Port jminta's kill-rdf to SeaMonkey where applicable Part 2 [meta].
    • bug 657604 Remove the RDF global object.
  • bug 436794 Enable Mac OS X system address book per default and add UI.
    • SM UI needed, unowned, helpwanted.
  • bug 449728 Drag tabs between windows.
  • bug 477845 Build a standalone (Gecko 2.0) Composer. [kaze]
    • kaze is currently busy with his new job so doesn't have any to spend on this.
    • bug 477840 Backport KompoZer to Composer (Depends on bug 477845).
    • kaze has done a ton of work there. We still need to work out some organizational issues. At the moment there is no active interest from MoMo for bringing standalone composer into comm-central. That's something we (KaiRo and kaze) will have to negotiate with the Thunderbird team (Standard8).
  • bug 507841 Port Bug 422814 - Make account configuration quick, easy, and more secure (autoconfig, Quick Account Setup).
  • bug 533908 SeaMonkey Mail: tabs not restored [misak].
  • bug 523274 Complete new default theme icon set.
  • bug 526210 Update the icon set for the SeaMonkey Modern Theme.
    • bug 548778 New communicator icons (based on Strata theme) for SeaMonkey. Some proposed icons got posted, we should take a look how to get that contribution into the product.
    • The rest is unowned so far.
  • bug 87098 [SeaMonkey] Delete key should delete location bar history list entry.
    • Note: Our location bar history doesn't and can't use autocomplete at all.

Roundtable - Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).





  • SeaMonkey 2.2 Beta 1.


  • bug 660427 Update (re)packaging code to deal with extracting the installer vs just the zip (WONTFIX except for SeaMonkey 2.1).
  • bug 663636 Missing addons, directory distribution/extensions is not there.
  • bug 657065 Batch of updates for SeaMonkey Keywords/Flags/etc.
  • bug 666518 Stop making extensions optional in SeaMonkey's installer.

Working on:

  • bug 653424 need to add comm-2.0 and releases/comm-{aurora,beta} to MXR.


  • bug 660745 [SeaMonkey] Install "June 2010 or newer" DirectX SDK.


  • Fixed:
    • bug 112356 - No option to leave email messages on server when creating new account
    • bug 582715 - Five message views, not four, and more can be created
    • bug 638816 - Update Help for FAYT changes
    • bug 654680 - Remove useless section on Cookie notification in the Status bar.
    • bug 657126 - Add Leave Messages on Server help
    • bug 663660 - Misleading notice in Edit → Preferences → Appearance → UI Language
  • Checkin-needed:
    • bug 366774 - Remove unused preference bidi.characterset
    • bug 621042 - Advanced Account Settings should mention account name
  • Needs Review:
  • Working On:
    • bug 78357 - Account wizard doesn't have place to enter port info (not assigned)
    • bug 633935 - Port |Bug 237376 - Put 'reply to newsgroup' on top| to SeaMonkey
  • Investigating:
    • bug 39113 - Show current profile name in preferences (backed out)
    • bug 512378 - Port |Bug 506985 - remove java-specific preferences from Firefox UI, hidden prefs| to SeaMonkey 2.1
    • bug 527173 - Spellchecker settings are in the Mail section but the SP is used by all components


  • Usual testing, reviewing and commenting.
  • Fixed:
    • bug 664348 Switch suite/mailnews to use Services.wm
    • bug 664612 Switch suite/mailnews to use Services.scriptloader
    • bug 664740 Create helper function for getting nsILocalFile complexValue prefs
    • bug 664834 Switch suite/mailnews to use
    • bug 664839 Switch suite/mailnews to use new GetLocalizedPrefString helper
    • bug 664841 Switch suite/mailnews to use Services.obs
    • bug 665294 Switch suite to use Services.dirsvc
    • bug 665291 Switch suite to use new cookies, logins and eTLD services in Services.jsm
    • bug 663631 [TB]Simplify getParentIndex in folderPane.js and jsTreeView.js
    • bug 663193 [TB]Cannot attach non-file attachments from command line
    • bug 657214 The Composer status bar doesn't display the correct status
    • bug 665806 Remove some stringbundle duplication in preferences
    • bug 665565 Make fuller use of GetStringPref in suite
    • bug 667289 Switch suite to use
    • bug 667674 Switch suite to use Services.obs
  • Waiting for review on:
    • bug 638643 Remove obsolete EditorToggleParagraphMarks from editor.js
    • bug 662203 Enhance openLocation so that it can be used by message compose
    • bug 665569 Add GetFileFromString helper for getting File from native path or Url
    • bug 667643 Switch suite to use Services.wm
  • Waiting for additional review on:
    • bug 657161 Make use of contentAreaContext in Composer
    • bug 665290 Switch suite/mailnews to use Services.urlFormatter
  • Working on:
    • bug 550484 Hardcoded widths for pref-proxies-advanced and pref-languages.add dialogs
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • bug 667662 Switch suite to use
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.









  • bug 664125 Offline error page only appears for caching channels.
  • bug 665313 Opening message attachment does not work.

Working on:

  • bug 160144 Replace POSTDATA dialog with better UI (post form resubmit warning).
  • bug 664105 TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | test_URIs.js | false == true for Thunderbird when running mailto: test.
  • bug 664695 Improve signature of nsIConsoleService::GetMessageArray.



  • bug 665276 Remove nsISHistory_2_0_BRANCH from /suite/common/src/nsSessionStore.js. This also fixes bug 667160 (Restore Previous Session fails).
  • bug 666522 Add telemetry.xpt to the packaging manifest (added to mozilla-central by bug 661574).
  • bug 666555 Add mozapps/skin/plugins/pluginHelp-16.png to Modern (missed out from bug 601562).

In progress:

  • bug 663343 The "List all Tabs" menu should visually identify which tabs are on-screen (rather than scrolled off).
  • bug 667201 Front end changes for bug 545070: plugin-problem UI shouldn't say "click here".


  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • End user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.




Any other business?

  • Meeting Note takers.
    • Ratty is getting rather tired of always doing the meeting notes and hopes that other people would help out occasionally.
    • Ratty to send an email to SeaMonkey-members list summarizing what needs doing and asking for people to share duties.
  • We should find a better way of getting nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • We could put out a call for nominations the week before then, at the time of the meeting notice going out we could include any nominations (We need to come up with a quick FAQ as to what merits a nomination).
    • We can give that a go for a couple of meetings. Any other suggestions are welcome.
    • IanN to send an email out on the SeaMonkey-members list on this.