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 * Location: [irc://irc.mozilla.org/seamonkey #seamonkey IRC channel]
 * Further Read: [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/Basics|Basics]]
-* Participants (in order of appearance):
+* Participants (in order of appearance): IanN tonymec frg WG9s rsx11m ewong
 == Agenda ==
-* Who's taking minutes? -> '''TBD'''
+* Who's taking minutes? -> '''frg'''
 * Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
-** '''TBD'''
+** '''IanN for being a great fish friend'''
 === Action Items ===
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 * New council members frg, rsx11m and ewong were already appointed a few weeks ago. '''IanN''' will look into a website update now that the project areas were updated.
 * TODO: Add Adrian Kalla to RelEng team. Overall no change as of today.
-* Discussions and planning about the future of SeaMonkey and if we should set up own builders are still going on.
+* Planning the future of SeaMonkey with a new infrastructure is in progress.
-** For the previous discussions see the last status meetings.
 ** '''ewong''' is evaluating the cost and specs for an aws and azure based build system.
 ** Cross compiling macOS builds is now possible for Firefox under Linux. This will be done as soon as possible for comm-central.
-*** Up to date rust packages for cross-compiling are currently missing. Mozilla no longer provides them per default since switching to taskcluster. See below.
 *** For a possible new infrastructure OSX builders would only be needed for tests. This can be added at a later stage.
 **  We need a jumphost, a buildmaster, a Windows and a Linux slave.
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 *** Funding is available.
 ** We need to start with a static setup and expand as necessary.
-** The current infrastructure will be replaced in Q3/2018 and is already failing.
+*** Our current infra (excluding the new mac mini and the Win loaner) will be gone by late Q3/early Q4 as Mozilla vacates the SCL3 datacenter.
+*** '''WG9s''' will do comm-central and comm-beta community builds weekly to see if SeaMonkey still builds on Linux.
 *** We have 12 linux64 systems, 7 win32 systems (1 dead), 4 OSX64 systems (3 dead).
 *** Only vital components (for Firefox) will be moved to the new MoCo data center.
 *** The SeaMonkey builders will likely be decommissioned/scrapped and not moved to MoCos new data center.
 *** Thunderbird stuff is moving, because its integrated with firefox-relengy-stuff but TB also has a migration plan off MoCo infrastructure
-*** '''ewong''' is requesting a mac mini on macstadium in {{bug|1414114}}. MoCo will provide it initially free of charge.
+*** '''ewong''' has created a jumphost on aws and is working on the master.
-** '''ewong''' has created a jumphost on aws and is working on the master.
+*** Thunderbird is moving to taskcluster. At the current stage not possible to say if we can benefit from this in the future. The taskcluster setup is complicated.
-** '''ewong''' has access to the mac now. [Currently waiting resolution on {{bug|1432706}} to set up a vpn between sCL3 and the mac.
+**** '''tomprince''' thinks it would be relatively easy to move SeaMonkey to taskcluster. We need to evaluate this.
-** Thunderbird is moving to taskcluster. At the current stage not possible to say if we can benefit from this in the future. The taskcluster setup is complicated.
+**** A few years ago, it was stated that SeaMonkey wasn't permitted to use TaskCluster.  Whether that has changed, remains to be seen. ewong has pinged someone.
-*** '''tomprince''' thinks it would be relatively easy to move SeaMonkey to taskcluster. We need to evaluate this.
+**** In any case dedicated machines or instances are needed anyway so the infrastructure buildup needs to continue.
-*** A few years ago, it was stated that SeaMonkey wasn't permitted to use TaskCluster.  Whether that has changed, remains to be seen. ewong has pinged someone.
+*** ewong is in the process of setting up the necessary parts.
-*** In any case dedicated machines or instances are needed anyway so the infrastructure buildup needs to continue.
+**** We have an additional mac mini (from macstadium.com) but is not able to connect properly with the master due to routing issues ({{bug|1441001}} which as been marked WF due to the fact that 1) it's only going to be a temporary setup, 2) to get this working will require a lot of fiddling on Moco's part and ewong isn't willing to add more complications and burden to Moco's NetOps team.
+**** Decision was to forgo connecting the new mini to SCL3 and instead, set up a Moco-financially-backed (maintained by us) infra.
+**** Initial consideration was to have our infra on AWS; but Azure seems a bit cheaper.
 * '''ewong''' is trying to include rust dynamically. Mozilla no longer provides rust tooltool packages and a bug needs to be opened for every new version now.
 * &mdash;
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 === Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree ===
 <!--Please update accordingly-->
-* Our current infra (excluding the new mac mini and the Win loaner) will be gone by late Q3/early Q4 as Mozilla vacates the SCL3 datacenter.
+* Doubling effort in getting the infra on Azure up.
-** ewong is in the process of setting up the necessary parts.
-*** We have an additional mac mini (from macstadium.com) but is not able to connect properly with the master due to routing issues ({{bug|1441001}} which as been marked WF due to the fact that 1) it's only going to be a temporary setup, 2) to get this working will require a lot of fiddling on Moco's part and ewong isn't willing to add more complications and burden to Moco's NetOps team.
+* [2nd April 2018]
-**** Decision was to forgo connecting the new mini to SCL3 and instead, set up a Moco-financially-backed (maintained by us) infra.
+** ''' Infrastructure '''
-**** Initial consideration was to have our infra on AWS; but Azure seems a bit cheaper.
-***** Doubling effort in getting the infra on Azure up.
-* Various Bugs open for building.
-** We have only one OSX64 builder left.
-*** Perma-busted-red: {{bug|958812}}
-** Linux64 Nightly: {{bug|1275215}} is still open but Linux is building most of the time.
-** Linux64 build: {{bug|1275218}} is still open but Linux is building most of the time.
-**  Windows building is done on the loaner.
-* [8th April 2018]
-** Tests have been re-enabled and running but have issues.
 *** All tests are Red.
-** All trees:
+*** '''Trees Status'''
-** [comm-central]:
+**** [comm-central]:
-*** All Platforms: Busted.
+***** All Platforms: Busted.
-**** No GCC 6.4 tooltool packages [TB is using TaskCluster infra so they get the gcc toolchain for free.  We still depend on the 6.4 tooltool package.  Have yet to ping someone to get it done.  None of our systems can build the 6.4 tooltool package.]
+****** No GCC 6.4 tooltool packages [TB is using TaskCluster infra so they get the gcc toolchain for free.  We still depend on the 6.4 tooltool package.  Have yet to ping someone to get it done.  None of our systems can build the 6.4 tooltool package.]
-**** LLVM_CONFIG not set. {{bug|1450257}}
+****** LLVM_CONFIG not set. {{bug|1450257}}
-*** DOMi, cZ and debugQA extensions were temporarily disabled to get basic l10n working in {{bug|1231349}}.
+**** [comm-beta]:
-*** Do not expect to use the 2.57 release yet other than for brief testing. It is fundamentally broken by Mozilla source and api removals.
+***** Linux*: Orange {{bug|1415803}}
-*** Sidebar and Mail/News are broken because of XUL template removals. See {{bug|464710}}.
+***** OSX64: *backlogged*
-*** Bookmark Manager broken because of places sync api removal. See {{bug|1378089}}.
+***** Win32: Green
-*** See {{bug|1452448}} for current comm-central breakages.
+**** [comm-release]:
-** [comm-beta]:
+***** Linux*: Orange {{bug|1415803}}
-*** Linux*: Orange {{bug|1415803}}
+***** OSX64: backlogged
-*** OSX64: *backlogged*
+***** Win32: Green
-*** Win32: Green
+**** [comm-esr52]:
-*** Dumps without the fixes for the bookmark manager and friends.
+***** Linux*: Orange {{bug|1415803}}
-*** Do not expect to use the 2.57 release yet other than for brief testing.
+***** OSX64: backlogged
-*** See {{bug|1433370}} for current 2.57 breakages.
+***** Win32: N.N
-** [comm-release]:
+** ''' Build Status '''
-*** Linux*: Orange {{bug|1415803}}
+*** [comm-central]
-*** OSX64: backlogged
+**** Do not expect to use the 2.58 release yet other than for brief testing. It is fundamentally broken by Mozilla source and api removals.
-*** Win32: Green
+**** Sidebar and Mail/News are broken because of XUL template removals. See {{bug|464710}}.
-*** Do not expect to use the release yet other than for brief testing.
+**** Bookmark Manager broken because of places sync api removal. See {{bug|1378089}}.
-*** See {{bug|1379370}} for current 2.53 breakages. Tree is at 2.56 already.
+**** Dumps without the fixes for the Bookmark Manager and friends.
-** [comm-esr52]:
+**** See {{bug|1452448}} for current comm-central breakages.
-*** Linux*: Orange {{bug|1415803}}
+*** [comm-beta]:
-*** OSX64: backlogged
+**** Sidebar and Mail/News are broken because of XUL template removals. See {{bug|464710}}.
-*** Win32: N.N
+**** Bookmark Manager broken because of places sync api removal. See {{bug|1378089}}.
-*** See {{bug|1313304}} for current breakages.
+**** Dumps without the fixes for the Bookmark Manager and friends.
+**** Do not expect to use the 2.57 release yet other than for brief testing.
+**** See {{bug|1433370}} for current 2.57 breakages.
+*** [comm-release]:
+**** Do not expect to use the release yet other than for brief testing.
+**** See {{bug|1379370}} for current 2.53 breakages. Tree is at 2.56 already.
+*** [comm-esr52]:
+**** See {{bug|1313304}} for current breakages.
 * Notes:
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 * '''Waiting for 2.49.3''', Thunderbird has tagged 52.7.0
 ** changesets have been forwarded to ewong, [https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/comm-esr52/rev/5c558e38444a SEAMONKEY_2_49_3_BUILD2] in progress
-*** Build 2 is currently blocked by {{bug|1450855}}
+*** Build 2 based on ESR 52.7.3 is currently blocked by {{bug|1450855}}
 * SeaMonkey 2.49.2 was released on February 15th, 2018
 ** Updates from older SeaMonkey versions to 2.49.2 are currently not working (including from 2.48 or 2.49.1). This has been announced on the project page.
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 === Feature List, Planning ===
-[http://dev.seamonkey.at/#bugstats Bug statistics] for the last ''three'' (full) weeks: 15 new, 2 fixed, 5 triaged.
+[http://dev.seamonkey.at/#bugstats Bug statistics] for the last two (full) weeks: 15 new, 2 fixed, 5 triaged.
 * low triaging effort, low number of new bugs filed.
 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/chart.cgi?category=-All-&subcategory=-All-&name=1183&label0=SM-with-review%3F-requests&line0=1928&label1=SM-with-superreview%3F-requests&line1=1929&gt=1&labelgt=Grand+Total&datefrom=2009-07-15&dateto=&action-wrap=Chart+This+List Open reviews/flags]:
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 *** see Thunderbird {{Bug|1444468}}, Core {{Bug|1426763}}
 ** {{Bug|1222546}} Product plan: remove support for heavyweight themes
-*** This has been officially removed with Firefox 57. We are still able to ship and use complete themes in SeaMonkey.
+*** This has been officially removed with Firefox 57. With Firefox 61 theme support has been removed from the source. The Modern theme no longer works in SeaMonkey.
 ** {{Bug|1397874}} tracks the xbl bindings removal. Only bindings used in Firefox will be kept for now until they are replaced with who-knows-what.
 *** Overlays are now also gradually being removed. Mozilla has converted tabbrowser.xml to tabbrowser.js. Needs to be done for SeaMonkey in a later release too.
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 Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).
-==== Callek ====
 ==== ewong ====
 ==== frg ====
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 * {{Bug|1403067}} Remove nsIDOMHTMLAnchorElement, nsIDOMHTMLInputElement in SeaMonkey. aceman did the patch. Just rebased and need to test it.
 * {{Bug|1428282}} Replace obsolete toLocaleFormat for SeaMonkey archive folder name generation. Need to do a final test before asking for review.
-* {{Bug|796994}} Use filepicker's open() instead of the obsolete show() in /suite/*. Need to address the review comments.
+* {{Bug|796994}} Use filepicker's open() instead of the obsolete show() in /suite/*. Need to address the review comments. Async.promiseSpinningly has been removed. Patch needs to be partially redone.
 * {{Bug|1378089}} Replace the Bookmark Manager with the Firefox Library in SeaMonkey. 2.53 and 2.57 versions done and tested. Need to address the feedback comments.
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 ==== IanN ====
 ==== Rainer Bielefeld ====
-==== Ratty ====
 ==== rsx11m ====
 Pushed to comm-central and comm-beta:
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 === Any other business?  ===
+* The next meeting will be held in two weeks: Sunday April 22, 2018, 15:00 UTC
 * &mdash;