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 == Agenda ==
+We are thinking about a out-of-band meeting at 2:15 or 3:30pm Thursday in Building K.  Contact Tim Riley (IRC timr, IM tim_riley@yahoo, email timr@mozilla.com) or Marcia Knous. for details.
 *  Crypto overview, understanding the intricacies of certificates in Firefox and Tbird.
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 * Robert Sayre
 * Chris Cooper
+* Nelson Bolyard
+* [[User:rcampbell|robcee]]
+* Wan-Teh Chang
+* Juan Becerra
+== Meeting Notes ==
+Crypo testing
+/15/06
+=== Attendees ===
+Bob Lord, Bob Relyea, Bob Clary, Nelson Bolyard, Wan-Teh Chang, Chandra Kannan, Rob Campbel, Juan Becerra, Tracy Walker, Chris Cooper, Alice Nodelman, Tim Riley,
+=== Review Agenda ===
+* Crypto problems found in Firefox 1.5.0.7
+** RSA signature issue
+*** found by very creative cryptographers - may or may not be a real vulnerability
+**  7 bad certificates
+* Desire to do better manual testing of Security/Crypo IU's
+* Interest in using existing automated test suites
+=== Some recent work ===
+* NSS run nightly
+** what branches? Trunk and NSS 3.11 branch
+** doesn't crash and doesn't leak (anymore!)
+** 2Million tests and still problems found
+*** test certs Generated by university in Finland
+*** 4-5 CDs - ton of certs
+** Can these get out of date?  [robcee]
+*** [Nelson] then might
+*** RSA public keys
+*** Now elliptic curve certs
+*** certs don't get out of date, but new technologies come along
+* Tests run from tinderbox
+** SSL
+** SMIME
+* Agreement by Mozilla to take updates
+** AI: Rob's team to check who made this commitment
+=== Testing the UI ===
+* SMIME
+* TSL/ECC - This is main area.  need to normalize this one
+* Open SSL
+* Test matrix between platforms and browsers
+* Have seen regressions in:
+** Client Auth
+** RSA Keygen
+=== MoCo QA doesn't know how to test encryption UI ===
+* Tracy:  don't understand how test UI
+** Seems well tested before we (MoCo QA) gets it
+** Chandra is a guru on PKI
+=== Smartcard testing in Firefox ===
+* Bob R
+** Get MoCo some USB smartcards
+** There is smartcard support in FF1.5
+** Bob R added hooks for registering when smartcard is inserted
+** Could have a special page where if smartcard is inserted it will take you to a special page
+** Need to setup public servers for testing (MoCo, Sec Test)
+** Setup automation to capture info about TLS session (see Bob L's demo)
+*** '''See Chandra for ideas'''
+** '''MoCo, Sec Team to collaboration'''
+=== PSM Testing ===
+* Better testing [Nelson]
+** PSM - core Firefox component
+*** Configuring PKI
+*** QA on PSM??
+**Great opportunity for MoCO to create unit tests
+*** What is the use case?? [juan]
+*** '''Talk to Kai E and Chandra << AI Who??'''
+=== SMIME ===
+* SMIME
+** Automated tests?
+** Nelson seen many regressions in mail
+*** signed mail  get reported as invalid signatures
+*** More trouble with IMAP
+**** Setup messages on IMAP server
+***** check for valid messages and attachments
+***** try different IMAP servers
+***** Setup canned set of messages (on CD, public server)
+***** Lots of energy here!!
+=== Setup Test Servers ===
+* Need follow-up with Kai
+** Has a server with a ton of tests
+** '''Setup meeting with him <<== timr'''
+=== Misc ===
+* Shopping/SSL testing is a good starting point
+* IE trashing
+** Warning:  SSL is about to be used
+** requiring certs - sign by default even if you don't have a cert!
+*** Then the message is rejected because no cert