SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2021-02-21: Difference between revisions

status meeting notes
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* Location: [irc://chat.freenode.net/seamonkey #seamonkey IRC channel] on Freenode
* Location: [irc://chat.freenode.net/seamonkey #seamonkey IRC channel] on Freenode
* Further Read: [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/Basics|Basics]]
* Further Read: [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/Basics|Basics]]
* Participants (in order of appearance):  
* Participants (in order of appearance): IanN rsx11m WG9s frg WaltS48


== Agenda ==
== Agenda ==
* Who's taking minutes? -> '''TBD'''
* Who's taking minutes? -> '''frg'''
* Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
* Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
** '''TBD'''
** '''l10n localiser Jim for bringing us Greek l10 n builds and rsx11m for organizing our meetings'''


=== Action Items ===
=== Action Items ===
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** '''buc''' has added more fixed icons.
** '''buc''' has added more fixed icons.
** Updated branding files are planned to be incorporated into 2.53.7.
** Updated branding files are planned to be incorporated into 2.53.7.
*** '''frg''' is a bit busy and not sure if he will be able to do it in time for the next release.
*** '''frg''' was occupied with various tasks and is not able to bring this to the 2.53.7 release.


'''CLOSED'''
'''CLOSED'''
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** Mercurial and [https://foss.heptapod.net/mercurial/tortoisehg/thg Tortoise Hg] are now hosted there after bitbucket dropped hg and removed all repos.
** Mercurial and [https://foss.heptapod.net/mercurial/tortoisehg/thg Tortoise Hg] are now hosted there after bitbucket dropped hg and removed all repos.
* Updates are planned for the Windows builder for 2.53.7
* Updates are planned for the Windows builder for 2.53.7
** VS2019 will be upgraded to 16.8 on the Windows builder.
** VS2019 will be upgraded to 16.8.6 on the Windows builder (done after the meeting).
*** The clang breakage has been fixed by updating clang to 11.
*** The Windows clang breakage has been fixed by updating clang to 11.
*** VS2019 16.7 and up are no longer able to build the x86 SeaMonkey. They fail in the link step.
*** VS2019 16.7 and up are no longer able to build the x86 SeaMonkey. They fail in the link step.
*** Bill uses VS2017 for now which is much more stable together with clang and is still being updated.
*** Bill uses VS2017 for now which is much more stable together with clang and is still being updated.
** The Windows toolkit will be updated th the latest 10.1.19041 level.
** The Windows toolkit will be updated th the latest 10.1.19041 level (done after the meeting).
** Mozbuild will be updated to 3.3 from 3.2. This needs some makefile changes which have no bug yet but are in the unofficial 2.53 and 2.57 builds already.
** Mozbuild will be updated to 3.3 from 3.2 (update done after the meeting). This needs some makefile changes which are tracked in {{Bug|1692200}}.
* All domains but .hu have been transferred. The .hu transfer is ongoing.
* All domains but .hu have been transferred. The .hu transfer is ongoing.
* We might discontinue the gated SeaMonkey newsgroup mailing lists.
* We might discontinue the gated SeaMonkey newsgroup mailing lists.
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** The release is tracked in {{Bug|1689877}}.
** The release is tracked in {{Bug|1689877}}.
** The release notes and website update are tracked in {{Bug|1689878}}.
** The release notes and website update are tracked in {{Bug|1689878}}.
** The release is a bit behind schedule. Among other things {{Bug|1691208}} is a blocker and needs to be fixed first.
** The release is still behind schedule because of some last minute problems but building will begin shortly.
** The distributed extensions will be moved to the extensions directory for easier updates in {{Bug|1659298}}.
*** {{Bug|1691208}} is a blocker and has been fixed by backing out the original patch for now.
*** The downside is that they can be disabled but not removed.
*** The distributed extensions will be moved to the extensions directory for easier updates in {{Bug|1659298}}.
** This version will not support the discontinued Flash NPAPI plugin. This was the last supported NPAPI plugin.
**** The downside is that they can be disabled but not removed.
* The '''SeaMonkey 2.53.6 final was released on January 22nd'''.
*** This version will not support the discontinued Flash NPAPI plugin. This was the last supported NPAPI plugin. The removal from our release branches is tracked in {{Bug|1688415}}.
** The 2.53.6 final release was tracked in {{Bug|1686851}}.
**** Some related code for NPAPI support has already been removed too.
** The release notes and website update were tracked in {{Bug|1686853}}.
*** Network tailing {{Bug|1358060}} will be turned on for better performance.
** Greek (el) was added as a new language to it.
*** rcwn {{Bug|1307504}} will not be enabled because of startup problems with the disk cache from old profiles.
** It has almost all 78.6 esr sec backports which apply.
*** ES6 modules support is almost ready and can be enabled manually. But some minor issues remain and so we decided to turn it off for 2.53.7.
*** It has almost all 78.8 esr sec backports which apply.
* NSS 3.49 and up drop the dbm compatibility module. This has been restored for 2.53.2. Later we might do a hard block upgrading from an older release.
* NSS 3.49 and up drop the dbm compatibility module. This has been restored for 2.53.2. Later we might do a hard block upgrading from an older release.
** Distributions using the system nss might need to adjust compile settings for this.
** Distributions using the system nss might need to adjust compile settings for this.
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** {{Bug|1684651}} SeaMonkey under later macOS versions does not repaint the scrollbar correctly on all sites.
** {{Bug|1684651}} SeaMonkey under later macOS versions does not repaint the scrollbar correctly on all sites.
* A meta bug {{Bug|1584728}} tracks the rdf removal from SeaMonkey.
* A meta bug {{Bug|1584728}} tracks the rdf removal from SeaMonkey.
* The big security problems which were in the public up to ESR 78.6 are fixed.
** The current full security level as of today is more or less at 60.8.
** Old 2.53.x bugs are still marked as not fixed in bugzilla. We will mark them as fixed as time permits.
** Old 2.53.x bugs are still marked as not fixed in bugzilla. We will mark them as fixed as time permits.
* Compiler support is up to date.
* Compiler support is up to date.
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* WebExtentions dictionary support is being worked on but no ETA.
* WebExtentions dictionary support is being worked on but no ETA.
* '''Please use the new Calendar component for reporting and tracking respective bugs!'''
* '''Please use the new Calendar component for reporting and tracking respective bugs!'''
* We are looking into adding support for Custom Elements and Shadow Dom in a later release. No ETA yet. This is or will also be supported in 2.57.
* We are looking into adding support for Custom Elements and Shadow DOM in a later release. No ETA yet. This is or will also be supported in 2.57.
** Google owned/based websites like youtube are likely to break because of this in the near future. There are already reports of broken functionality on youtube.
** Google owned/based websites like youtube are likely to break because of this in the near future. There are already reports of broken functionality on youtube.
* Some users report heavy memory usage compared to 2.49.5 but no specific problem or common cause has been found yet.
* Some users report heavy memory usage compared to 2.49.5 but no specific problem or common cause has been found yet.
** Do not add bugs without providing some information how to reproduce any memory issues. Bugs with only general statements like "it hangs after 3 days" or "SeaMonkey is bloated" will be closed immediately in the future.
* Release notes are provided for reading them before reporting or discussing problems...


==== SeaMonkey 2.57 ====
==== SeaMonkey 2.57 ====
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* cZ will be integrated into SeaMonkey.
* cZ will be integrated into SeaMonkey.
** '''IanN''' created {{Bug|1551033}} for the initial move to suite. This wil be included in 2.53.7
** '''IanN''' created {{Bug|1551033}} for the initial move to suite. This wil be included in 2.53.7.
** The language pack for cZ will be later removed and a translated cZ will be included. Language packs need to be in WebExtension format for 2.57 if we do not to this.
** The language pack for cZ will be later removed and a translated cZ will be included. Language packs need to be in WebExtension format for 2.57 if we do not to this.
** The current cZ source code will be checked in without history into comm-central. History will be available in our 2.53 and 2.57 repos and current patch queues.


* Our distributed extensions do not always get updated during a new install.
* Our distributed extensions do not always get updated during a new install.
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