The first thing I'd like to say is that this site has a very weird method of making contributions to this list. Nothing obvious, that's for sure!
Secondly, why do dates and time not appear next to contributions? The "blog" is meaningless without them.
Thirdly, a Thunderbird - Eudora - Penelope sounds great, but when will it happen?
Thanks Robby
2009-Jan-11
Never. The project is dead. The people supposedly in charge of it don't respond to e-mails, and they won't respond to this.
Thunderbird, in so far is it is alive (barely) is pursuing a non-filter-based archiving system a la Gmail, contrary to Eudora's structure. Not necessarily irreconcileable, but let's be realistic - no mail browser has ever offered two rival methods of archiving mail simultaneously.
So to repeat: it's dead. Anyone care to contradict me?
2009-Mar-13
You've been contradicted by the fact that on 8 April 2009, Eudora 8.0b6 was released. The project seems alive, but just moving slowly.
2009-Jun-12
Mac Eudora, then and now
While it's intriguing to read about the effort to duplicate the Eudora experience in a new Thunderbird-based application, the two UIs are virtually irreconcileable. Thunderbird is a virtual clone of Outlook while Eudora had a simplicity that no one else has matched, though MailSmith comes close. For instance, the Mac version of Eudora displays the headers and the body of a message in a single window. That makes it easy to copy every relevant component of a message and save it outside Eudora, which is what I've done with client correspondence for more than a decade. In the Thunderbird/Penelope client, Eudora mimics the Outlook/Thunderbird pane layout that segregates message components, placing headers in one pane and body content in another. That makes copy/paste a multi-step process that requires additional user scripting to avoid.
Eudora's simplicity and power are what have made it endure for so long. The current efforts to "modernize" it are eliminating the very aspects that made Eudora so easy and efficient to use.
Penelope/ Eudora 8.0.b5
I installed Eudora 8.0.b5 last month to try it after using a real version of Eudora 5.11 for many years. One problem I've had with 5.11 is it doesn't understand UTF encoding which more and more clients are using. Another is it download embedded images when it shouldn't.
I was hoping Penelope (which is what it should be called) would work some what like real Eudora. But it totally blows huge chunks..
It imported my mail boxes ok, but it totally screwed up my address book and filters. At first it showed my mail boxes along the left side but now I can't get it to do it any more. When it does filter messages it does it wrongly, transferring most of the mail in to one box which should only have messages from one mailing list in it, I can't see any reason for it.
I had major trouble getting it to download my earthlink mail, it sent fine but wouldn't connect with the server to download half the time. The ONLY thing it did well was integrate my Gmail account. The rest of it was so BAD that I have gone back to Eudora 5.11.
Some things I noticed I missed from Penelope. 1. when composing messages you can not change the signature to another. I do a lot of things with various mail projects and this is an important thing to me.
2. I can not live without the mail boxes side bar and Eudora has tabs which allow you to switch between mailboxes/file browser/stationary/signatures/personalities.
3. The drop down menus are very different, completely missing the special menu. I especially missed the message plug ins under Edit; which allow you do things like change case, reformat, wrap text, and sort.
4. In some cases it shows my name instead of the name of the person who sent the email which is totally weird. Especially in the Sent Box, Eudora shows who you sent it to not your name like Penelope does which is about useless.
5. It keeps asking me if I want to send the message as html or plain text or both. I composed it as html, so just send the damn message and don't bother me about it!
I realize this is a beta release, but if it is supposed to replace Eudora or act like Eudora it fails miserably.
Why this Eudora does not feel Eudora to me
One of the things I ever loved in Eudora was to have the mailboxes in very easy to manage separate files and, specially, not a large incoming file with all the attachments on it, but an attach folder with all my attachments decoded there. Its safer, faster to use and easy to get stuff. Why isn't that the case anymore? Or I missed some option that allows me to have real Eudora working phylosofy back?
Only ONE feature!! Please!!
There is only ONE FEATURE of Eudora that has been ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL for my use of Eudora: MULTIPLE WINDOWS !!! Neither Thuderbird and Mozilla Eudora have this feature. Google mail or other web mail programs don't have it. This is essential to my work process. What can I do?
The Real Eudora working phylosofy back (previous post)
Good morning !
The one from previous post summarizes the feelings of any user of Eudora.
Allways want the "real Eudora working phylosofy back"
We opted to just Eudora for differences(mainly related to attachments, mailboxes and embeded pictures). Thunderbird is more like Outlook in order to store messages. Who use Eudora 7, want Eudora 8. Who use Eudora 7 and wants change the e-mail client, dont use Penelope, just change to Thunderbird.
But I thank the community effort to keep this name, Eudora, so much history. Only begin to think more like Eudora and less as Thuderbird. Good work !
Thank you.
Paulo Franco Brasil
PS (Excuse the grammatical errors)