Firebug/WeeklyUpdates/2010-09-28

John J. Barton, Steve Roussey, Jan Honza Odvarko, Michael Rennie, Darin Wright, Mike Collins.

Issues for 1.6

• b1
  • Blocks 1.6
  • < 1 week of work we guess.
  • NEED TEST (jjb commit) Linux Search panel bonkers
• Need feedback on Swarm
  • New Prototype: Swarms
  • collect test list from extensions and run all
  • contact extension authors,
• The Firebug Swarm
  • First run page
  • one per alpha and beta
  • donation page
• New support for testing extensions (Honza, kpdecker)
  • To wiki (Honza)

1.6 on FF 4.0

• FF 4.0b7 status?
• JaegerMonkey FF 4.0!
  • FF 4.0 Nightly build renders Firebug JS debug inoperable
  • uses jsd, adapted

• known issues
• FF4.0 labeled issues

• FF 4.0b5/6 need to test and check against knownissues list

Testing

• New FBTest registration for extensions
• Daily testing for Firebug + Firefox
  • Test Bot Page
  • One 4.0 failure caused by Firebug: lib absolute URI (JJB)

• • Bug 559466 Integrate firebug test suite with automated tests

• Triage Process
  • Contact page, platform triage person?
  • Bug 532445 run unit tests (daily?) with Firebug installed in testing profiles
  • Add support for reporting that FF crashed (Honza)

Relation to Firefox/Jetpack

Three different jetpack-ish ideas are being kicked around:

1. Small jetpack to open swarm page as addons.mozilla.org package
   • restartless: user experience similar to FF 3.6 install
   • users see extensions and can install all at once, much more convenient
2. Jetpack adapter: a firebug module loader written in jetpack
   • becomes the home for all Firefox-specific integration code
   • includes eg Firebug start button (now in status bar).
3. Firebug extension loader
   • restartless loading of firebug extensions
   • resembles jetpack but for firebug
   • this part would be cross browser

Cross browser extension mechanism

• Using bootstrap mechanism (no restart, same as jetpack)
  • panel add/remove no restart
• Lite and Firefox Firebug ext.
  • script async vs sync loading
  • Dorn transporter CommonJS RequireJS: need adapter for jetpack.

Firebug 1.7

• Focus on debugger.js/fbs
  • add support for JS debug to Firebug for Google Chrome
  • prepares for jsdv2
  • prepares for mobile web debug at least for JS
  • give experience for complete refactoring work.
• Option: invent script.js and mozilla-backend.js
  • alternative to debugger.js/firebug-service.js
  • allows parallel development, at the cost of copy and paste for un-refactored code.
• New API between debugger.js and fbs to match CrossFire protocol
  • Darin to post proposed API
    • pmueller suggested looking at json schema
    • darin suggests looking at java remote debug for extensibility issues
    • Standards may based on Web IDL or [JSON Schema http://json-schema.org/]
  • Call styles discussed in newsgroup
• Firefox proposal window.console
• Mutation Recognizer needs to support removal of UI features
  • eg remove breakpoint (HONZA)
• Refactor to support Firebug Embedded:
  • Firebug in Firefox as jetpack
  • Firebug in Google Chrome more complete, more common code
• DONE Need more detailed plan (JJB to propose)

-- Not discussed this week ---

Fund Raising

• California non-profit.
  • Eric Jung, maintainable.
  • Software Conservancy to meet Sept 20 (No word as of 9/28)
  • Check with Mozilla (jjb()
• Delegating can go ahead
• Zazzle problem on black tee-shirt
  • Wait for reprint
  • look into other sites (jjb)
  • Mouse pad looks great
• Firebug trademark vs Firebug non-profit name?

Crossfire

• Crossfire labeled issues
• Webkit Inspector Protocol?
• Testing of backend: FBTest?
  • Darin
• Listener client/server
  • Browser Tools Interface
• Socket startup and shutdown issues.
• Avoiding context transfer?
  • Leave all model info on server side
  • Client side has "presentation model" (cache of info needed for panels)
• Standards may based on Web IDL or [JSON Schema http://json-schema.org/]

Bugs

updated March of the Firebugs