*mschroeder (mschroeder@moz-F850DF5B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #calendar-qa ctalbert hi mschroeder mschroeder hi ctalbert Congratulations on winning the test day ctalbert Folks I think it is time to start the calendar-qa meeting ctalbert Today's wiki page is at: http://wiki.mozilla.org/Calendar:Current_QA_Chat mschroeder ctalbert: Thanks, I saw it on the newsgroup some minutes ago. ctalbert You're welcome * lilmatt (mwillis@6B569169.79B8DEA.652A5FE2.IP) has joined #calendar-qa * ChanServ gives channel operator status to lilmatt ctalbert First, congratulations to mschroeder and damian for winning the test day. * Andreas (chatzilla@3E5B58D.4C00166E.33AABD5F.IP) has joined #calendar-qa lilmatt Yay ctalbert The day went well. One of the best things from the test day is that koen and unlogic both posted back to the calendar blog that they enjoyed the experience of the test day. ctalbert I think that's a great compliment to our moderators ctalbert I've posted the results of the day on the test day wiki: http://wiki.mozilla.org/Calendar:Current_QA_TestDay ctalbert Is there any other feedback on the test day right now? jminta ctalbert: matthaeus just posted a comment jminta to the effect of 'we need to get testers editbugs asap jminta i'm gonna see if i can do something on that frton jminta front* ctalbert I agree. When doing these types of test days it will always be a pain in our side. We want to recruit new people, but we have to make sure that people understand the magnitude of their actions when using those permissions too. jminta right ctalbert Cool, let me know what progress you make on that. jminta but i think it's in our interest to err on the side of giving out perms ctalbert I think you're right about that. jminta especially since everyone is monitoring bugmail pretty closely at that time ctalbert One of the things firebot is good for in this channel is catching when people move a bug to an incorrect state. Fallen We could make the bot do such changes, with some sort of restriction ctalbert Interesting idea ctalbert But, I think having people feel like they can actually do it themselves is a good thing. It will also keep them invested in helping out. jminta ctalbert: ok, i just got a blessing from shaver to grant editbugs to people ctalbert Cool. ctalbert Let's move on to talk about the next test day ctalbert celina63: do you have an update on it's wiki? ctalbert s/it's/its * Sebo|food is now known as Sebo ctalbert We'll come back to that. ctalbert As you may or may not know, xFallenAngel has been working on making a bot that we can use to help out with managing the test day. ctalbert It's in the very early stages, but we've prepared a demo. ctalbert So, I need everyone to take a field trip with me. Come join the #fallen channel. celina63 sorry, here now celina63 work is being intrusive today :-/ celina63 I will be completing the wiki for the next TestDay today ctalbert celina63: What were the topics we decided on for the next test day? Migration was one, as I recall. celina63 I agree, the calbot will be very useful even as it is now ctalbert We may also have jminta's QA Extension available as well. ctalbert But, before introducing that to a test day, I think I want to create more tests for it ctalbert Or we can use it and get feedback on that too jminta the extension doesn't gain a lot from being widely deployed jminta because results will only very rarely differ celina63 Clint, my notes say that next testday will be focusing on migration and testing the advanced panel in the preferences dialog ctalbert That was the other thing. Thanks celina63 and litmus/usability testing ctalbert Both of those should land prior to the test day, so we're in good shape. I'll ask Damian how the latest updates to litmus are going next time I see him ctalbert I think he was working on adding interop testcases ctalbert Is there anything that needs to be covered w.r.t. the next test day? ctalbert I'm going to get a list off my desk, brb jminta note that there's a chance we'll have nightly updates working by the next testday too ctalbert ohhh cool! So if you install a nightly build, you'll automatically be updated each day? lilmatt jminta: Do you think we'll get the sql patch landed also? lilmatt ctalbert: Yes celina63 ooo automatic updates ctalbert After sorting through the bugs in the wake of the test day, I found several bugs that need to be addressed, and I think we should do that now, in place of the calendar Todo list item firebot firstname.lastname@example.org added attachment 244453 to bug 341971. firebot email@example.com requested first-review from firstname.lastname@example.org for attachment 244453 on bug 341971. firebot Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=341971 enh, --, Sunbird 0.5, email@example.com, ASSI, Enable app update checking for Sunbird (aus) ctalbert and if we still have time we'll delve into qawanted bugs after that ctalbert If there's no objections, lets start with bug 349330 firebot ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=349330 nor, --, ---, firstname.lastname@example.org, UNCO, Show country in Holiday Files ctalbert Damian recommends wontfix. What do you think? lilmatt No dupes, zero votes. lilmatt I agree with him mschroeder I also think wontfix. jminta i have no problem wontfixing it ctalbert ok. * jminta notes that wontfixes should usually only be done by major devs jminta because they tend to make people angry * Fallen has quit (Ping timeout) ctalbert yes, which is why I wanted to bring that up here rather than allowing Damian to wontfix it himself. celina63 that's not a bug, it's an enhancement request ctalbert Next one is bug 351459 firebot ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351459 nor, --, ---, email@example.com, UNCO, Calendar displays in 12 hour format; no option to change to 24 hour lilmatt The comment Damian references doesn't apply to the bug lilmatt The original bug is about time formatting and the one Damian links to is about the switch to 24 hour views. ctalbert that's what I thought too ctalbert And I think we'd want to change based on the locale setting, as per ssitter's suggestion ctalbert I'll try to confirm it, and add a comment to it. lilmatt I think we should pull from the OS if at all possible. ctalbert I think that's what we already attempt to do lilmatt rather than assuming that the user wants 24 hr time because they're in Fooland ctalbert oh, never mind, I misunderstood. Yes, I agree. lilmatt Also note that he's running on KDE lilmatt I'm not sure if that makes our "use the user's time settings" stuff less likely to work, but it might Sebo I can try with Suse+KDE celina63 can't 12 vs 24 be a user pref thing? ctalbert Sebo, that'd be great. Thanks. My SUSE box finally died. ctalbert celina63, it could, but we should make a smart choice to default to. ctalbert Next one on my list is 299688 ctalbert bug 299688 firebot ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=299688 nor, --, ---, firstname.lastname@example.org, UNCO, Japanese text is corrupted randomaly, lilmatt celina63: It could be, but if we can use the user's system's pref, it's one less pref for us ctalbert sorry if some of these are rather trivial, I wrote these down late last night ctalbert yeah, never mind on that one. lilmatt I'd ask gekacheka to try to repro it and then close it ctalbert ok, or I can I have a japanese system here too lilmatt That works ctalbert I wanted to ask what our intention was for bug 357012 (week numbers in views) firebot ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=357012 enh, --, ---, email@example.com, UNCO, Week number support in the ligthning month view ctalbert A lot of people have asked about that since 0.2 had it lilmatt christian's view mock up had it so I think we're eventually planning for it ctalbert I think what I want to ask is: should we confirm it ctalbert Ok ctalbert i'm sure there are dupes for that one too ctalbert ok, that's my list of things to address. mschroeder and i shouldn't be "Lightning only" but "Calendar Views" mschroeder it shouldn't be ctalbert thanks, good point ctalbert We have about 10 more mins. Are there any qawanted defects that need addressing? Sebo I promised to work on bug 249796, but didnt do it yet firebot Sebo: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=249796 maj, --, ---, firstname.lastname@example.org, NEW, I am unable to configure user/password when wanting to publish my calendar to a remote location ctalbert qawanted bugs: http://tinyurl.com/yjmcfb ctalbert I see that japanese one is also a qawanted one, I'll knock that out Sebo lilmatt: I just tried printing in Lightning - no luck! ctalbert Can we clear qawanted status on: bug 351944? firebot ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351944 nor, --, Sunbird 0.5, email@example.com, NEW, Printing has issues on Linux lilmatt ? lilmatt Sebo: Using the "Print Calendar..." menuitem? Sebo it prints an empty page! Sebo yes lilmatt That seems wrong. It worked for me. Sebo (empty exept headers) ctalbert me too ctalbert are you on linux? Sebo no, but maybe because of thunderbird 2.0b? ctalbert I tried it with tbird 2.0b, on mac Sebo ok, I will try with clean profile ctalbert I've seen some issues with the data that was printed, but haven't seen printing just outright fail ctalbert (bug coming on that by the way) ctalbert lilmatt: can we clear qawanted status on bug 351944? * lilmatt reads lilmatt ok ctalbert cool ctalbert I'm also going to remove the cal relnote status from it as well since that's outdated ctalbert We're about out of time. Does anyone have other questions on anything (bugs, test days, bots etc) ctalbert next week, I'd like to spend more time on clearing out those qawanted bugs, so if you have a chance to test some of them, that would be very very helpful. ctalbert Ok If there are no questions, then I think we're done. Thank you for all your help with everything! ctalbert Happy bug hunting.