Mozilla Education Status Meeting - May 26, 2009
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- Tuesday May 26, 2009 11:00 am EDT, 8:00 Pacific, 1500 UTC (other time zones here)
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- Review the recently-concluded Mozilla/Creative Commons Open|Web|Content|Education online course for educators: what worked, what didn't work, whether and how we might offer such a course again, and so on.
- Philipp Schmidt (course organizer)
- Frank Hecker
- Dave Humphrey
- Mark Surman
- James Boston
Comments from Mark Surman prior to the call:
- Framing of the course was compelling and brought interesting people.
- Delivery was chaotic (in good first course way), with good content in bits but I think a bit hard to follow as overall narrative.
- Would do something with this mix of topics again, but worth thinking through how to deliver better. Probably: simplify, simplify, simplify.
- Joi Ito has indicated interest in doing mix of course / unconferences that people can run locally on similar mix of topics to our course --> not just for education, but on open web, content, methodology.
- Interested to know if FLACSO people plan to do a spanish version of the course based on what we've done so far.
- Would be good to get a survey of what blueprint threads we still need to follow up.
Summary of discussion on Educourse:
- general thoughts
- people say general outline of course excellent
- combination of open content licensing, open web technologies and open teaching methods attracted a lot of people
- want to keep Creative Commons participation in the future
- need to integrate themes more; blocks separate but could have had better connections; how?
- teach around one or two example projects?
- use case studies to discuss ideas
- hard to balance between telling presenters what to talk about and letting them speak about what they find interesting
- can't really tell presenters who are well known experts in a field what to talk about
- presenters didn't think applications to tool and tool to applications was exciting idea
- some way of getting people together in group ahead of time to see how presentation fit together?
- maybe get a unified set of presenters who aren't the experts but people who had worked with those people
- maybe have Q&A with experts
- interviews with experts worked well
- less effort than synchronous conversations
- people better prepared for those sessions because they could prepare on own time
- recruiting successful?
- if we had more time we could have put the barrier higher to participation
- we could set the bar higher for participation
- how much lead time necessary next time?
- 2 weeks open for applications, 1 week to evaluate applications, 2 or 3 weeks until course starts
- too much lead time people put it off
- passive versus intensive course?
- harder to get people to do one week intensive thing
- if we do more classes consider doing intensive course for most promising candidates with travel sponsorship perhaps
- do course in context of one-day bar camp?
- provide course people could use to do things on their own?
- conern that bar camp would be too much talk without producing something real
- organization in Netherlands that does source camps more useful model? (Tactical Technology Collective)
- half tech people, half social justice people; perfected facillitation; 8 days; interesting projects implemented during camp
- more intense, more facilitated
- people come to event with real problems to solve
- long curation process of who should come to event; travel sponsorship; people had to submit essays for application
- huge amount of time dedicated to making sure people who need to talk do
- consider online program as feeder for something more intensive?
- select a few people for more intensive
- might motivate people to participate and put forth ideas and come up with ideas, plans
- couple days face to face but do it more local and self-organizing, not as high cost?
- if we want to encourage people to put on own events need to do upfront work to build template people could use
- is this something that is worth doing again?
- if we use interest from people as answer, yes
- need to be critical, things that could have been done better
- perhaps didn't manage to make link between education tech community and what's happening in Mozilla
- Mozilla value perspective: weren't able to do what last course did
- for Mozilla to make it more relevant with us need to go in with more specific goal (eg. a model for teaching in Mozilla context)
- people coming up with own personal projects that may not have anything with Mozilla
- becomes a constraint on getting Mozilla people to want to help
- crisp challenge of some problem that people that would come to table to help solve
- how to create "innovation funnels" (channeling innovation from the course to the Mozilla community
- much easier with a homogeneous group and specifying one target
- needs hand holding and ongoing support
- would have to more work to get to that
- crisp goal; homogenous group of tech educators; see what happens?
- be a bit selfish because that's where we provide the value and get Mozilla people interested and involved
- technical choices
- frustration being able to participate because of technical issues
- asynchronous approach needed? recorded resources needed like audio or video
- ditch the web conference stuff and go to straight teleconference; more reliable
- combine teleconference with chat
- adopt technologies that Mozilla uses
- would get Mozilla people more involved
- would give people authentic open collaboration experience
- proposal to have Philipp (or similar) blog and feed into Planet Mozilla
- because of some of the tech choices and high bandwidth of list it became sizeable commitment to follow it and not easy to follow from afar
- propose James Boston make landing page with backward narrative of the course for people to go
- one goal of promoting ideals of open participation
- relevance to us not just promoting Mozilla way to educators but there are also problems we need to solve
- trying to solve problem of educating people about Mozilla
- need to have discussion about broader skills for an open web
- fork EdMo calls from open web skills
- who will own those threads on next conversation?
- David Humphrey volunteers to lead a discussion
- think not in terms of values to promote but competantcies or skills that people in those industries need to work
- if people bring that into their careers then we are successful even if people don't contribute to Mozilla
- propose Frank Hecker be in charge of scheduling 3 calls and write up upcoming topics:
- Mozilla technology
- open skills (led by Mark Surman)
- open pedagogy if it seems not to be covered in previous calls