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Meeting Details

  • 11:00am PDT (18:00 UTC)
  • Mozilla HQ, 1st floor conference table
  • +1 866 216 2181 (or +1 303 228 0514)
  • join #granparadiso for backchannel


  • Gecko 1.9 Roundtable
  • Firefox 3
  • Any other business

Gecko 1.9 Roundtable

  • Performance followup
    • Windows 30% perf win (thanks Stuart!)
    • Mark working on Linux -- pango problems
      • Should create patches for Pango
      • Will probably need to write a Xft fast-path
    • Mac has 15% performance regression just for Cocoa widgets; need to get handle on that first
  • Performance testing
    • Most trunk perf loss is due to cairo (we think, need to be certain)
    • Might be able to get outside help to generate new modern pageset
    • How fast do we want? What is good enough?
      • There are edge cases (e.g. session restore of a large session)
      • No regressions is a hard limit
  • gcc visibility issues
    • patch went in to gcc trunk, will become gcc 4.2
    • but that introduced a bunch of new issues
    • could get significant startup time benefits
  • Reflow branch coming along
    • bz to fix form controls
    • builds usable, modulo form controls

Firefox 3

  • Fx3 Goals
    • Sherman at Jury Duty, put off until next week

Any other business

  • Supporting Vista: should we be building 2000/XP and Vista versions for Fx3? should we be leveraging the new User Access Control? (beltzner)
    • Take advantage of process separation (unprivileged by default, some tasks at higher priority)
    • Need someone to investigate -- dveditz maybe?
    • Auto-update needs to be tested with Vista and fixed if necessary
    • Someone needs to own "Firefox on Vista"