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Meeting Details

  • 11:00am PST (19:00 UTC)
  • Mozilla HQ, 1st floor conference table
  • 650-903-0800 x91 Conf# 217 (US/INTL)
  • 1-866-879-4799 (pin 369) Conf# 217 (US)
  • join #granparadiso for backchannel


  • Action items
  • Gecko 1.9 Roundtable
  • Firefox 3
  • Any other business

Action Items From Last Week

  • graydon
    • cycle collector for alpha? (can it land by nov 17?)

Gecko 1.9 Roundtable

  • Gecko Alpha Status
  • Individual People Status:
    • vlad
      • drawWindow/tiled background patches checked in
      • win32 issues fixed; need to check in to both moz and cairo
      • no progress on cairo upscaling
      • working on Cairo Quartz issues that are blocking printing; will be fixed today.
    • dbaron
      • reflow branch
        • spent more time than I expected fighting with special height reflows
          • gmail compose now lays out correctly on reflow branch
        • merged branch to a new branch off of the trunk
      • also spent some time polishing off a few bugs in the visibility stuff bryner did so that it's actually usable and fully working on FC6 (and I can build and run on FC6 without tweaking strange build flags)
    • sayrer
      • JS/DOM harness landed
      • regression tests running on windows tinderbox, thanks to davel
      • have thttpd proof of concept working on windows (replace python script)
      • added ~20 old DOM bugs to the harness. turned up 3 or 4 issues, 2 definite bugs
      • working out issues with the harness as new types of bugs are added
      • no progress on getElementsByClassName
  • Alice
    • New Tp test (annie sullivan's test)
    • Cleaned up pages (100 or so pages)
    • Reporting to graph server
    • Windows-only performance test, uses Python
    • Runs outside of the browser, auto-starts up browser, etc.
    • Graph server extension
      • Per-user data submission, ability to hide other people's data set
    • Page cleaner and grabber need to be checked in
      • Put page set somewhere
    • Future plan
      • Extension to build graph server to handle discrete graphs
      • (local graphing thing, instead of submitting?)
      • Long-term to run this as the main testing suite
    • Minimal work to get this page set for Tp and baseline
  • Layout Regression Testing
    • Test running and reporting within 1-2 weeks on mainline tinderboxes
  • Dan
    • Migrated old perf html to wiki/Performance
  • Gecko 1.9 Alpha QA
    • Smoketests only (light testing)
  • Some testing is already being done on the trunk (irregularly)
  • Security/Privacy Review in 1.9
    • Design Review for any Major Feature
      • Evaluate from security perspective, done early on
      • Evaluate for testability (what tests are needed)
    • Questionnaire for features early on to answer impact questions
    • Have security considered at all steps of process
    • To discuss at summit
      • Will have proposals beforehand
    • Top 5 things to do security review of that we already know about
  • Mac 1.9 Blockers
    • Planning to finish before end of summit
    • Broken-down time estimates today

Firefox 3

  • Working on final revisions of an initial Firefox 3 Vision document. Will push that to dev.planning for feedback ASAP.
  • Continuing to dig through, clean up, and consolidate the brainstorming document.

Any other business

  • wrt JS/DOM test harness, bz asks: "when I flag security bugs as in-testsuite?, should I be ccing anyone in particular?"
  • Mac 1.9 Blockers
    • Planning to finish before end of summit
    • Broken-down time estimates today