QA/Execution/Meetings/2009-11-04

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Discussion Items

  • Current Priorities check
    • Crash Investigation. The no.1 priority is Firefox crash investigation. See Crashkill wiki.
      • Additional notes (Tomcat)
        • Working on a list for the QA CrashKill Wiki with the Bugs from the Overall Crashkill List with Bugs that need steps to reproduce/testcases etc - also with a owner field for QA that is also open for interested community members) - should be done end of the week
        • (Discussion) - juanb will make a first pass of the crash list, and then send the notes out. the wiki page tracks what bugs are being looked, who's looking at it, and what steps are being worked on for those bugs
    • Fx3.6 beta work. quicker beta cycles starting this week. Testing still needed around major components and fix verifications
      • Plan for quick beta cycles: Spot checks (smoketest?), spot checks on l10n, and updates, at most.
      • Next Two Weeks: Identify areas where things are unclear: Windows 7 in general, session store, tabbed browsing, lightweight themes, plugins, odds and ends. Then spend quality time, a day of full-force FFT level testing on these areas.
        • (Discussion) - talk to beltzner and see which are the top areas/deltas to focus on. keep track of these on pre/post releases.
    • Fennec b5 work. A beta 5 is coming today or tomorrow. includes ~10 locales. Extra sets of eyes will help
      • (Discussion) - if person has a N810 or N900, work off of different locales; in addition to main functionality testing
    • Fx 3.5.5 testing. Al and team are working on release testing this week
      • Additional notes below
        • (Discussion) Partial updates from 3.5.3 to 3.5.5, since they turned off topcrashes for 3.5.4. shipping tomorrow
    • Your other work you have. Put them on a temporary backseat if you can.
  • QMO Forum topic fields (aakashd)
    • currently, non-admin users cannot create forum topics. they can only comment in them. reasons is to block spam, but is this the best use of forum topics?
      • Forum will be fully back in function when bug 519428 is fixed (Tomcat)
        • (Discussion) Are these forums really being used? Mollum is filtering out about 60 spam messages a day, but that means only administrators and community leads can create forum topics. Only registered users can comment. Nearly every forum is closed.
  • Shorter 3.next beta cycles (juanb)
    • Starting next week, we are looking at shorter beta cycles. How does this impact qa?
      • juanb: We need three people the day of shipping for spot-checks, l10n, and updates. Ongoing bug verifications as part of our day-to-day operations.
  • Remote access to Lab Machines (marcia, raymond)
    • any new updates on this? Raymond was out this week, will resume next week.
      • Raymond can do this next week, work with marcia to set priorities
      • Request which ones to prioritize first? (See Inventory)
      • Machines will be opened on the team via VPN
  • VM updates (abillings)
    • Any discussion on cleaning up old vms?
      • (Update) keeping XP w/ IE 7 around as webqa still uses it. known issue with ubuntu 9.0.4 and ogg audio issues
      • new Win 7 pro vm to be created, as it has enhancements
    • Fusion 3 licenses issued, new virtual machines are on FS, everything is a go.
      • Fusion 3 is now up on the file server. Update your license number on the virtulization page.
  • Team hiring (timr, tchung)
    • project approaches and prioritization going into 2010
    • looking into contract services to assist with the daily grind work

Project Updates

  • Firefox 3.0x, 3.5x (abillings)
    • Firefox 3.5.5 shipping 11/5 at 3:00 PM.
  • Firefox 3.6 (juanb)
    • update?
  • Tegra (marcia)
    • Running the new OS and reporting and verifying bugs
    • Conference call with Nvidia scheduled for tomorrow AM
  • Fennec (aakashd)
    • Candidate builds for b5 are out
    • What we're doing
  • Weave Sync (tchung)
    • Weave sync 0.8 is out
    • beta is landing next week. Sync 1.0 is targeted before all hands in dec
    • feature is an extension that is targeting fennec and firefox integration by Q1/Q2 2010
    • Tracy will be driving the testing of smoketests, testplans, and filing bugs in the interim
    • Testday scheduled for 12/4 to do weave testing
  • Mozmill Testcase automation (henrik)
    • Aakash is working on Add-ons manager tests
    • Software update tests have been revised by a community member (Maverick). Some issues have to be addressed.
    • A lot of back-end work has been done the last week
    • Started to clean-up broken tests
  • QMO & Community (marcia, aakashd)
    • Trying to plan a mobile meetup for November. Awaiting word from dougt re: availability
    • Still have not had time to edit videos from MozCamp. Working with Lukas to carve out time.
    • Presenting at Independence High School this Friday
    • Testdays
      • L10n/Litmus Testday 11/20 changed to l10n+QA test Firefox Testday
      • Test Pilot Testday on 12/4 changed to Weave Beta Testday
      • ashughes will be assisting with Testday implementation and promotion
  • Accessibility (marcoz)
    • Hunting new top crasher that first showed up in 3.6b1. No STR so far, and I can't reproduce, but hard on this one. bug 525579
    • Tables-related patches landed on Firefox 3.6b2pre last Thursday, testing and watching crash-stats to make sure we didn't regress. So far looks good.
    • Pursuing another ARIA-related report which hasn't been formulated into a bug yet, but which might be a potential 3.6 regression. More on this over the next couple of days.


  • QA Metrics ( Murali )
    • Windows code coverage data is generated. Coverage at 58 percent without jstest runs.
    • Exported code coverage data from native windows file format to XML.
      • Need to write scripts to transform XML to HTML report.
    • Working on POLISH bugs dashboard.
    • Minor improvements and consolidations done to dashboard

Round Table