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SeaMonkey Meeting Details


  • Who's taking minutes? -> Ratty

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.


  • Mnyromyr to coordinate the SeaMonkey response to this years Google Summer of Code.




  • Get permission from Google to use their geolocation JSON service [KaiRo]. We can still only wait on the Google front right now. Didn't hear anything about open Geolocation service yet. No easy solution in sight.
    • At the "State of the Map - Europe" OpenStreetMap conference, KaiRo will try to get people to team up and create an open service.
  • MReimer's drawing tablet broke some time back so he stopped working on theme icons. We should look into asking Mozilla's Direct Giving Program [adriank].
    • MReimer 1) is not sure if he needs this and 2) wants to put this on hold until he gets more time to actually work more on SeaMonkey.
    • Note: Mozilla Direct Giving contact is sethb. However sethb is leaving Mozilla after FF4, no idea who will take over the Community Giving stuff then.

SeaMonkey 2.0.12

open blockers (0) blocker requests (0) fixed (30)

  • SHIPPED on March 2.
  • Callek did the shipping. InvisibleSmiley helped on getting the website parts together. mcsmurf posted the Facebook announcement. No we don't have a twitter account.

SeaMonkey 2.0.13

open blockers (0) blocker requests (0) fixed (12)

  • Based on Gecko, target TBD, see Releases, in sync with Firefox 3.5.18.

SeaMonkey 2.1 Beta 3

open blockers (3) blocker requests (21) targeted (2) fixed (59)

  • Firefox has built their first RC. Firefox 4.0 should go public tomorrow.
  • Beta 3 should be the final feature and string freeze for the 2.1 series.
    • Sync follow-ups and other bugs that want to land for 2.1 with L10n impact should block b3 [InvisibleSmiley: requests already set appropriately].
  • Shipped Extensions: Chatzilla window still broken bug 605001 due to backend bugs [InvisibleSmiley: has reviewed patches, only needs landing?][And less bikeshedding Ratty]. Venkman is fixed now.
  • We should do beta3 once they're in that RC state. [InvisibleSmiley: Given FF's release speedup, our review slowness and the fact that b3 = string freeze I suggest we really make b3 depend on readiness of its blockers rather than a fixed date.]
    • I think this is reasonable, and as soon as our blockers are fixed I can cut and go on release, we'll want/need at least 5 days for QA/Issues to surface before we are ready for announce though, I prefer 1 week though) --Justin Wood (Callek)
  • Blocker request triage: Anything needing strings or is a feature addition needs to either block b3 or not block at all (can land for b3, no chance afterwards in the 2.1 cycle).
    • Don't fear being aggressive with blocker triage, If it isn't needed it doesn't block. By that same token, if you are able to fix a blocker please try and work on them before tackling any other bugs.
    • IanN has started going through the blocker nomination list.

Further 2.1 scheduling:

  • Please help updating the New 2.1 Features page as we go.
  • Beta 3 should be followed by 2.1pre and our own RCs.
    • To clarify SeaMonkey 2.1b3 should be based on Gecko 2.0 RC, our RC on Gecko 2.0 final, and SeaMonkey 2.1 final should be based on Gecko 2.0.1 (but it looks like this plan has been overrun by events).
  • We should release within 6 weeks from FF4, but we should not release in the two weeks following FF4 final due to media being all about that release - with usually having a cycle of about a month or slightly more for security updates, it probably makes sense to do final based on and in sync with Mozilla platform 2.0.1.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for last two (full) weeks: 65 new, 30 fixed, 40 triaged.

Open reviews/flags: 44 review 14 super-review 1 ui-review 7 feedback

Major wanted/needed features:


Needing help, Unowned, Stalled
  • bug 523274 Complete new default theme icon set.
    • A list of TODO icons is up in the bug.
    • MattATobin and MReimer are looking into this.
    • (Callek:) I feel this can land up until our rc, but the deadline is fast approaching, we should move this tracker out for
  • bug 526210 Update the icon set for the SeaMonkey Modern Theme.
    • bug 548778 New communicator icons (based on Strata theme) for SeaMonkey. Some proposed icons got posted, we should take a look how to get that contribution into the product.
    • The rest is unowned so far.
    • (Callek:) Parts this can land up until our rc, but the deadline is fast approaching, we should move this tracker out for
  • bug 573538 No options for Safe-Mode.
    • IanN felt this was blocking at one point, but we hope to cut b3 soon, and since there is l10n impact this is 'at risk' for 2.1
  • bug 521159 [SeaMonkey 2.1] Port |bug 514327 Detect outdated plugins and offer upgrade path|.
    • Has l10n impact. So if it misses 2.1b3, it will slip; a means for security improvements in our users though, want to see it get in in time though.
  • bug 87098 [SeaMonkey] Delete key should delete location bar history list entry.
    • No l10n impact
  • bug 627240 Consider shipping built-in extensions as being installed into profiles
    • No l10n impact
  • bug 570004 Popup/"doorhanger" notifications [Neil].
    • Implementation moved to bug 595810.
    • Everything is done except for lwthemes.
    • l10n-impact
  • bug 581526 Add SeaMonkey support for the Windows 7 jump list [mcsmurf].
    • Has positive review...
    • mcsmurf was ill the last few days and now has to catch up again on other things first.
    • l10n-impact
  • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition [IanN].
    • [IanN: I'm having to patch lots of things, so splitting those off into smaller bugs (as you can see from my fix list), to try and make reviewing easier]. First parts done and checked in.
  • bug 401417 Add an option for a search box in SeaMonkey toolbar (and add an engine manager). [KaiRo]
    • Making good progress. KaiRo will be adding the strings we'll need to call the engine manager from sidebar and needed for the preferences as well, so we can add those entry point in followups even after string freeze.
    • l10n-impact

We also should take a look at the other items on 2.1-wanted Also the nominations need triaging.

  • We will need to take a close look at Lightning, which is mainly targeting Thunderbird.
    • Lightning 1.1 seems to be targeted to be Gecko 2.0-based.
    • Due to recent Lightning patches/fixes, Lightning nightlies are now working again on SM trunk.

Needing help, Unowned, Stalled
  • bug 460953 kill-rdf port.
  • bug 436794 Enable Mac OS X system address book per default and add UI.
    • SM UI needed, unowned, helpwanted.
  • bug 449728 Drag tabs between windows.
  • bug 477845 Build a standalone (Gecko 2.0) Composer. [kaze]
    • kaze is currently busy with his new job so doesn't have much time to spend on this.
    • bug 477840 Backport KompoZer to Composer (Depends on bug 477845).
    • kaze has done a ton of work there. We still need to work out some organizational issues. At the moment there is no active interest from MoMo for bringing standalone composer into comm-central. That's something we (KaiRo and kaze) will have to negotiate with the Thunderbird team (dmose).
  • bug 507841 Port Bug 422814 - Make account configuration quick, easy, and more secure (autoconfig, Quick Account Setup).
  • bug 533908 SeaMonkey Mail: tabs not restored [misak].

For now only a drop zone for those that surely will not make 2.1 any more.

Roundtable - Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).




Released SeaMonkey 2.0.12:

  • bug 626569 (SM2.0.12) Tracking bug for build and release of SeaMonkey 2.0.12.
  • bug 637862 Send out 2.0.12 announcement.

Bugs fixed:

  • bug 554993 Use in SeaMonkey (suite/locales/

Working on:

  • bug 636650 Stop redefining STAGE_DIST in browser/locales/, is enough [Build Config].
  • bug 636215 browser/locales/ cleanup, remove prepare-repackages and prepare-upload-*.
  • bug 589506 Scrub the codebase of MOZ_VIEW_SOURCE and MOZ_JSLOADER [Toolkit].


  • bug 631864 Investigate why [or fix] mac (trunk) repacks being uploaded to mac/ rather than mac64/.

To Do:

  • bug 634399 Get contact for/access to SeaMonkey blog.


  • Fixed:
    • bug 580690 Building calendar on OS X 10.6.4 fails with linking error nsEditProperty::mozEditorBogusNode.
    • bug 568283 Add checkbox for accessibility.browsewithcaret (F7-by-default mode).
  • Working On:
    • bug 62885 Message/Mark All Read doesn't get disabled when there are no (zero) unread messages/all messages are read.
    • bug 606482 _install_-updates preference wrongly labeled with "_check_ for".
    • bug 562048 notification bar needs to look slicker [TB].
    • bug 633394 Update removed-files for findings from 2.1b2 update checks.
    • bug 566440 APP Update dialog is to wide with modern.
  • Need to clarify some review comments before checkin:
    • bug 601562 Update Modern theme from missingPlugin.css to PluginProblem.css.
  • To Do:
    • bug 633937 Make use of the toolkit notificationbox to display notifications in MailNews (Port bug 562048).


  • Usual testing, reviewing and commenting.
  • Fixed:
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbars in Composer and formatting toolbar in MailNews Composition - patches:
      • Tidy up some broadcasters and commandsets v2.2
      • Toolbar item tidy up v1.4
      • Switch from toolbar id to class patch v1.2
      • Fix css for formatting-button menulist v1.0
    • bug 635619 Mac platformBrowserBindings has incorrect keyset id
    • bug 635792 Fix debugQATextEditorShell so that it works
    • bug 637088 InsertPopup in classic theme is missing icons for menuitems
    • bug 638607 Remove obsolete cmd_showComposeToolbar [TB]
    • bug 638647 Remove unused AfterHighlightColorChange function from editor.js
    • bug 639212 Fix sidebar so it works with editor/messagecompose [bset is null]
  • Waiting for review on:
    • bug 638643 Remove obsolete EditorToggleParagraphMarks from editor.js
    • bug 638964 Allow customization of formatting toolbar in Mail Composition [TB]
    • bug 638980 Status bar should only have progress meter showing whilst loading stuff [TB]
    • bug 639196 Rationalise popups into utilityOverlay.xul
    • bug 639694 Move EditModeToolbar from editorOverlay
  • Working on:
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 639716 Move structToolbar xul code from editorOverlay
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.



  • Some more sync-to-trunk work on LCARStrek and EarlyBlue, some work on LCARStrek for Firefox 4, moving it nearer to becoming useable.
  • Reviewed the patch from Callek (bug 554993).
  • Addressed review comments on optional search bar and engine manager patch (bug 401417).
  • Synched German L10n with trunk once more.
  • As usual, my blog has more detailed status about my work, and Mozilla Status Board Posts also tell about my next planned steps.



  • bug 609106 Add plugin-container.exe to ShimInclusionList via installer.

Has review:

  • bug 581526 Add SeaMonkey support for the Windows 7 jump list.

  • Did some organizational things



  • bug 639318 Port relevant parts from bug 634666 [File streams perform disk I/O when being initialized].

Working on:

  • bug 639779 - Port bug 622379 [Current session data is lost upon browser triggered restart (e.g. upgrade) if the option to clear browsing history upon shutdown is set (again)]
  • bug 639771 - Port bug 597315 [Frameset history does not work properly when restoring a tab] to SeaMonkey





  • bug 635420 Clicking on content within Normal tab of Composer and stops switching to other tabs [Editor].
  • bug 637631 DOM manipulation in EditorSetDefaultPrefsAndDoctype marks page as modified and undoable.
  • bug 639446 Toolbarbutton dropmarkers should use transparency.
  • bug 639456 Inspector URL bar is too small.

Needs Checkin:

Waiting for merge:

  • bug 626716 Remove VC7.1 support code [Reopened].
  • bug 632344 autoconf-2.13's AC_CHECK_HEADER is too slow for some headers e.g. atlbase.h.

Working on:

  • bug 595810 Centralise notifications for ease of conversion to doorhangers. Need to address review comments before check in.
  • bug 620515 IMAP online search fails silently.
  • bug 637630 Compose throbber doesn't.
  • bug 630092 Missing notification for allowing offline app cache. [Notifications part checked in]

Waiting for review:

  • bug 594090 Search Messages window/dialog bottom buttons not re-enabled after delete and repeated search.


Bugs fixed:

  • bug 511096 SeaMonkey/SMILE port of FUEL bug 458688 (updated with the latest Firefox patches).
  • bug 553459 Deal with saved POST data [Part 3 Go Button Observer. Final Part].
  • bug 636110 Update signature of duplicateTabIn() stub to match match Firefox 4.0.
  • bug 636176 Sync should not sync general.autoScroll [FX]

Working on:

  • bug 464653 Toolbar context menu improvements and fixes.
  • bug 636104 Stub messenger preferences.xul for Lightning [SM2.1] [probably WONTFIX].

Waiting for Reviews:

  • bug 634364 Restore option to open context menu web search in new window (regression after SM2.0).
  • bug 636291 Ctrl+Shift+C Shortcut key to open calendar is destructive "Mark all read" [Lightning].


  • Listbox in the SyncUI prefpane needs to flex.


  • Bug triage and Bug discussions. Closed some older bugs as WORKSFORME or INVALID.
  • End user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.



  • Fixed SeaMonkey (related) bugs:
    • bug 630140 Port |Bug 595652 - fix hit testing for border-radius| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 634450 Port |Bug 623870 - Update the message in the invalid form popup if the error message changes| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 636076 Port a little more of |Bug 461979 - make profile info easier to localize| to SeaMonkey
  • Fixed Core bugs:
    • bug 633725 docload_wnd.xul (and nsRootAcc_wnd.xul) tries to load about:robots which is Firefox specific (atm)
    • bug 636197 [SeaMonkey] mochitests-5: test_bug625187.html fails since landing
  • Fixed (or in-progress) other projects bugs:
    • [Firefox] bug 632893 Remove useless Cc/Ci/Cr/Cu/Components.*/Services.jsm from Firefox tests


  • Did some reviews.
  • Fixed:
    • bug 638166 :active icons in prefwindow has wrong style [TB]
  • Working on:
    • bug 593840 Optimize .png files in themes/, branding/ and help/.
    • bug 637176 [Mac Default] Better bookmark/link toolbar styling.
    • bug 623660 Change FilterEditor dimensions (and move them to relevant .dtd files) [MailNews].

Any other business?

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