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<p>Just a thought for sunbird Sunbird specific dev's but make the popups modal (so they can't hide) and also create a small service and a taskbar icon to monitor date/time that can work even if the gui GUI has not been started, then set the program to run in the startup folder, <em>but minimized.</em></p>
== Sync ==
28-2-07: well Google Calendar has arrived. The ability to link to the Google ICAL URL for the synch would be ideal
What do you mean with that? The Google Provider dosendoesn't use the ICAL url, it uses the xml feed. --[[User:XFallenAngel|XFallenAngel]] 03:25, 3 March 2007 (PST)
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I know there are a lot of issues with users not being able to sync Thunderbird and Lightning with Nokia's PC Suite. As it is a permanent feature on all windows machines, what is the likelyhood likelihood of Thunderbird/Lightning duplicating all entries in real time to the Outlook database? This way, all your data could be processed through Thunderbird and Lightning, but the Nokia PC Suite could sync your mobile product using Outlook or Outlook Express DB. As TB does have the ability to import data from Outlook, theoretically, TB could import the changes to the Outlook DB on startup. Is this a feasible work around?
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I couldcouldn't have said the comment above any better, I would love being able to work like this through Nokia PC Suite and the Outlook database, at least if this is done the outlook folder won't be usless useless on my machine.
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<p><b><i>[19/10/2005]</i></b>
I've often thought that the folder pane in thunderbird Thunderbird is far too e-mail centric. If the folder pane, neigh thunderbird Thunderbird itself, where tabbed (e-mail, news/rss and calendar) the folder pane could be used exclusively for navigation etc... while the main pane(s) could display the inbox(es), news feed(s) or graphical calendar(s).</p>
<i>Anubeon</i>
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What about creating a system to share topic-specific calendars through email? Encouraging people to use email to share appointments, or notify scheduling changes, coud could give much more integration. Of course the emails would be preformatted by Lightning, readable as emails but also automatically generating a calendar, you could choose not to visualize them in Thunderbird, and their related topic calendar would be deleted when you put them in the undesired or trash folders. This way, if popular websites and institutions start using this system, you could have a calendar containing your $videogame clan scheduled frag meetings, another with your car's scheduled checkups/insurance/new regulations deadlines, another with taxes/mortgages etc., then even one showing TV programmes, but only the tv shows and genres you subscribed for... Alpha Ti
Re: Alpha Ti's idea, I like the idea of calendar sharing through email alone. Right now the only way to dynamically share a calendar (not event) is to host it somewhere and have people subscribe to it. How about adding a list of email addresses to a calendar itself, not just events, such that any change to any event in that calendar is automatically emailed as an ICS attachment to everyone in the list? That way anyone using Lightning can create a shared calendar without having to find a CalDAV host. This may even be possible to add into an ICS file already so that other ICS aware applications could add the same support. Synchronization would be an issue, but adding a version number to the calendar that gets incremented on each change, and a simple warning dialog when there is a version conflict could resolve that. --MHall
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What about using an smb share? You can have the permissions set to the share already thus only allowing authorized users to view it, or allow everyone read for a group calandercalendar, etc. etc. etc. SMB would be the limitation rather that setting up special log ins, and many companies already have group smb shares set up. You could have the program lock the file when saving changes, and then release it when done. If 2 people try to edit at the same time, the file would be locked by the first one, and have the other client keep tryingfor trying for xx seconds to see if it is unlocked, once it is, lock the file and commit changes, then unlock again. I wouldn't think this would be a steep change. Obviously do refreshes on the file every so many seconds/minutes to check for changes.
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The first thing to do maybe is an extension for exchange , that would :
- Set the Imap IMAP account if available , providing the serveur server name ( nothing special here)
- Set the LDAP port to the exchange one and ask for the LDAP server, Maybe there is a way to get it from the exchange server ?
== Other Open Source Projects ==
Evolution is backending to the opengroupware, which has a html HTML interface to most exchange like functions. I am not sure at which level that lightning could replace outlook. Will it just be on the interface level ? Connecting to an
exchange server ?
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Guys thank you for spending time and efforts on such a great project.I tried the extention extension yesterday and it works well!!
Suggestion from my end are
* Try and accomodate accommodate a view having the Calendar as a Tab in the Mail Folder
* Try and give it a better looking theme if possible same as the Sunbird Cal Project
* I disabled the Sunbird Cal and took backup of that ICS file and created a new Local Calendar on Lightning and Imported the Data from the backup file.Import went well but when you try and edit the New Cal to find the location it shows MozProfile id=2.Is it possible to create a default folder for the calendare calendar file in Lightning
* Notes
* Rest i think you have built a correct roadmap for features.
I'd really like to see another way to access the events you have in the calender - an Event Summary or if it were in the Calender menu bar an 'Event View' (below the existing Day/Week/Month views) which displayed events collated into one page - a summary of what events exist in your calender. Sometimes it would just be good to be able to see all events, for example if you need to make a change to more than one event with minimal hunting around for them.
If you could see them summarised in columns analagous analogous to TB's handling of emails currently, so you could order them by Title/Location/Start time/Calender/Category by clicking on the top bar it could be pretty useful I believe. A way to see lots of events sorted however you wanted rather than the current (and quite correctly - it is a calender after all) chronologically organised event displays.
Might need two resizeable panes - one at the top for Events and one at the bottom for ToDo's?
Thunderbird / Lightning needs to have an interface to the Cyrus sieve server rules (at the moment we use a webmail plugin to manage the rules).
It also needs to have a Calendar with the ability to view other users calanders calendars and send / receive meeting requests.
A server based address book (LDAP or SQL) so that my contacts are available in Thunderbird / Lightning and Webmail would be great.
Also consider using [http://webcalendar.sourceforge.net WebCalendar] for the server. WebCalendar supports MySQL, Oracle, SQL Server and others on the server-side. It was primarily a web-based calendar UI but can now also be used with iCal-compliant apps like Lightning.
Consider [http://www.kolab.org kolab] groupware server. It does all the above, uses imap IMAP to store the calendar information. Kolab supports outlook already, as well as clients running on linux and [http://www.kolab.org kolab] comes with a webinterface.
== Tablet PC Integration ==
Collaborative task management is the primary focus of what many of us do for a living. Get this done by making sure he finishes this; make sure she does that, etc. Within the discussion for Lightning (that I've seen), the focus is on my managing what I've done by actively adjusting the list AND communicating separately surrounding the tasks. If I want Bill to finish something that I had originally placed on my to-do list, I will need to revise the original to-do so that it incorporates the revisions (assigned to Bill, follow up by date, check status on this date, etc.) and I will need to communicate the changes to Bill. This should happen more seamlessly.
The functionality I'm suggesting is a combination of Outlook and Project, incorporated into the email project. [http://www.basecamphq.com Basecamp] is an excellent example of the elegent elegant simplicity that task management can be...integrated into a mail/calendar app it would add amazing leverage. If the systems were indeed used as an exchange replacement with a SQL db, centralized management should be available.
With a centralized management, repeatable functional tasks could be templated and assigned quickly (See basecamp example). Beyond basecamp functionality, tasks could interplay with messages to re-assign, elevate, note exception while continuously showing status to the access group. This notion will require administrative functionality for management of access levels and participation, but shouldn't be too difficult.
If distributed is the primary structure, then an integration of mail and task to record assignment, completion, acceptance, etc. would still be a valuable part of the calendaring ability.
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I can only forward this point: besides the desirable use of such a feature in a business enviroment environment as described above, I can also imagine lots of use in private life eg organizing family reunions, weddings, anniversarysanniversaries, vacations asoalso.But even in my everyday personal routine, most decisions I make envolve involve other persons and feedback from them, most of which is done using the mobile phone, unfortunately leading to high bills.
This feature could be a huge problem solver.
Keep up the good work!
== Auto-detect Dates in email ==
A very useful Thunderbird/Lightning feature would be an extention extension in Tbird Thunderbird that auto-detects dates and times (any reasonable syntax) in the body of an email and highlights them so with a right click they can go straight to the calendar. (email subject becomes default title of appointment)
Also all dates found in a email could become linked for a calendar lookup. When you hover over the link, a menu appears and shows any events you have that day as well as an option to add a new event to that date.
== Netmanage Ecco ==
It seems like a lot of interesting things are converging here. I had been loooking looking for a good powerful PIM to use instead of Outlook or Palm Desktop and discovered Ecco Pro from Netmanage which was free for download; but still closed source. Now that I have been using it for a while, I have really came to appreciate it; but wish it had email capablilitescapabilities. Then I downloaded Firebird to start playing with it. Then I discovered last month that Netmanage was about to release the Ecco code as Open Source (probably under GPL). Now this week, I find out about Lightning. Has anyone in the Thunderbird/Sunbird/Lightning community thought about utlizing utilizing some of the Ecco functionality or building API's or tie-ins between the two. It seems like a golden opportunity. Ecco won a ton of awards as the best PIM out there before it was killed off by bundled Outlook.
Not sure how to contribute to this person's comments on Ecco which was created by Arabesque and then bought by Netmanage. Ten years after Netmanage couldn't figure out how to carve out a niche when Outlook was bundled with Office, Ecco is still the most powerful and innovative PIM out there. In fact, Outlook killed off the PIM category, which is reason all by itself to resist Microsoft at every turn. I heartily endorse the idea that the Mozilla team should figure out how to take the now open source code that Netmanage finally made available (about a decade later than it needed to) and work with it in Sunbird and/or Lightning. Just as an aside I'm having trouble understanding why there isn't any linkage between Sunbird and Lightning. Why can't I work in one and the product show up in the other. But the important point is that the person I'm responding to hits the nail smack on the head. Anyone who has ever used ECCO feels there just this big void in the tools at his or her disposal in terms of calandering calendaring and all the other PIM functions one needs to organize work and life. Wouldn't it be fantastic if we could rediscover those under the Mozilla umbrella!!??
== Calendar - Right-click to set as wallpaper based on resolution. ==
After using Sunbird more and more I was thinking if it would be possible to add an option when right-clicking on the Calendar itself that would allow you to set it as your wallpaper automatically rendered to the current resolution. I was also told on IRC that it should update therefore I would think option in the options menu itself to "Set calendar as wallpaper on exit" would be appropriate to accomodate accommodate this new "wallpaper" function. Does this sound like something very useful and convenient only to me or others too?
Taicho
It would be great to be able to associate information about follow-up actions and deadlines with emails. Emails could be grouped, color-coded, filtered depending on whether there are still uncompleted follow up actions or missed deadlines. Deadlines could automatically show up in the calendar and there could be links to relevant emails.
There should also be much more possibilities to group emails and assign arbitrary keywords and notes. It should be possible that emails show up in several folders depending on the assigned lables labels (similar to Gmail).
The possibility to attach notes and todo lists would make it easy to keep track of what has been done and still needs to be done for an email or a group of emails (a thread).
There are many additional things that would make sense to provide, simply based on how people would *like* and *need* to work when emil email and deadlines are an important part of their daily work.
This project would be an excellent chance to make this killer application a reality -- I do not know any program that really offers this in a well designed manner. TB/Lightning could be the first.
Currently working on -> Journal - Project management
It would be helpful to track the use of time and ressources resources with a "currently working on" option in the Task window that automatically fills in the time used for a specific task and files an event in the calendar. This way one can easily review where the time has gone and why. It might also be used to suppress e-mail reminders with normal priorities during a work on high priority tasks, etc.In the end it is time that the users get hands on their own time/task management so that procrastination and misjudgement misjudgment can be tackled privately - so that we can have more fun in the end. P-)
With a further step towards tasks+subtasks a project management structure might be the next big step (after implementing calendaring functions)!
Auto - email-task
It is quite common that an e-mail triggers a response that cannot be immediately be resolved. Dragging it to a task should give an option to connect it with an answer that is directly accessible via the task. This should be a link to the drafts folder so that it can be continuosly continuously worked upon. Sending of the e-mail would complete the task automatically.
BoP
== Free-Busy address ==
Would be nice to have the possibility to generate a web page on a website or ftp server that would be used as a Free-Busy urlURL. Like an online place where your contacts who want to send you meeting request could check if you are available at that time/date.
== automatic alarms ==
Other thing, I think it would be nice to be able to delete only one event in a recurring event series without deleting the whole series. Let say I have weekly meetings always at the same time, but I am sometimes going on vacations and need to delete the ones during the vacation period.
Last thing, I think it might be nice if the calendar could open on a view previously defined by the user, or something like the last view. I find it nice when it opens in week view, and would like to keep it like this when it opens rather than changing back the view everytimeevery time.
I forgot to add: This is a great project. i am checking these pages regularly and waiting impatiently for the release.
year now, and it is works really well, however I find often that I would like
to look at the calendar but have to first click through the email part of
than if I was able to click straight to it. It would be great if it could be
separate like Sunbird but with the same capability to sync with Thunderbird and
I certainly think it would be useful if birthdays could be connected with members of your address book(s). I have often thought that this was the most-required addition to the card. A nice touch would then be to have the age calculated automatically and optionally shown in the calendar, perhaps with a special reminder if the contact reaches a special age like 16,21 or 50 etc..
The calendar application should also be able to make an birthday and then browse through a contact list (thunderbird Thunderbird or other).
Phil says: I second that. It would REALLY be nice to have birtdays birthdays attached to contacts and automatically inserted in the calendar.
== Email dates calendar tooltips ==
Really like this calendar, but a couple of things...
As some else pointed out,a chunk of real-estate disappears in the lower left of TB (depending upon the layout I assume). Interestingly, this appears to be changeable only it's height, to the point where it will disappear (nice), and re-appear when dragged back up (not bad). The calendar is otherwise unmoveableunmovable.
It would be great thing if it could be re-positioned, or if there was some kind of tabbed arrangement so that one could change between calendar and mail-folder views with a single click (or CTRL-Tab). IncidentlyIncidentally, this would also be nice to have with FF sidebars as well, so multiple sidebars could be open at once.
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What I would like to see is for the calender (and the address book, too, but that's another matter) to integrate into the folder pane (similar to Outlook's "folder list" view). The calendar sidebar wouldn't be visible at all most of the time then, but when you select the calendar entry in the folder pane, both the sidebar and the main calendar would open.
Oh, and I much prefer the SunBird Sunbird layout with the event list on top of the calendar instead of on the sidebar (the sidebar could be shrinked down to just the overview calender)
== Calendar app nice but hides folders ==
Unchecked the "Home" selection under calendar - ineffective.
This is a very nice app, well written (works, didnt didn't crash) but a close button
is a necessity - as well as readme info that discloses TB's dearth (poverty) of Folder viewing options. (wish I knew of a way to add a "folders" button to TB customized toolbars).
== Does not work Lotus Notes .ICS attachment meeting invitations ==
I connect with thunderbird Thunderbird 1.5 to the Lotus Notes via IMAP. Email works fine.
After installing lighting extension, it shows a nice calendar window, and when I receive a meeting invitation from someone with an attached .ICS file, it now parses it and shows the invitaion invitation like so:
Invitation from Whoever
If I press Enter in the dialog, dialog disappears, but the meeting is not added to my calendar.
::[[User:Ssitter|ssitter]] 01:13, 8 June 2006 (PDT): It is not intented intended to work at the moment. See [http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/releases/lightning0.1.html Lightning 0.1 Release Notes]: ''True email/calendar integration is planned, but that is not part of this release.'' If you want to report a bug see [[Calendar:QA_Home]], if you want support try the [http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=46 official forum].
== Alarm Reminders ==
Help: I want Lightning to send an email reminder to me, and I cannot figure out how. It's not explicit in the documentation whether or not that is supposed to be a feature. Can someone tell me how to do it?
Kudos on the Lightning project! As a Mac iCal user, I'm excited to find suitable calendar functunality functionality with Thunderbird! My Mac's been dead for 2 months and have been lost without iCal.. now Lightning imported my backup iCal .ics file w/no problems!
A couple of requests for the list of future features... Calendar reminders are a must for me:
== Support Drag-n-Drop ==
One of the things that blocked me to give up Outlook is that I can drag an email to the "calendar" folder, and it will automaticially automatically trigger an event window to let me set the detailed date and reminder stuff(the email title and body are mapped to event title and content). And this really makes things easier.
== Event identification ==
When editing a repeating item, you are given a choice to edit "All occurrences" or "This occurrence only". Often what you want to do is edit all future occurrences. For example, a standing meeting changes to a new hour. You want to update the meetings that didn't happen yet and not screw up the history of where you were in the past.
Alternatively, if one wishes to only edit "This occurrence only" like cancel the present meeting but not the future ones, it does not send emails to the invites or stand cancelled canceled in their calendar.
== Automated Tasks Using Email Rules ==
