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Remora Alpha Feedback

This is the feedback for the Remora Alpha Preview we fixed / dealt with, for reference.

fligtar's comments

  • The sidebar still doesn't show the active page with a gray background (li class="selected") (wenzel)
    • fixed --wenzel 19:59, 18 January 2007 (PST)
  • Home is listed on both the top menu and the side menu. It seems a little strange and would be more appropriate to only be on the top menu.
    • That was fixed with the introduction of breadcrumbs. --wenzel 10:24, 16 January 2007 (PST)
  • Having the search box at the bottom is too annoying. I don't want to have to scroll down to search. I also think there should be a search box somewhere on every page, as before the reskinning. AMO search doesn't suck now (hopefully) so we should make sure it's used instead Google on site:addons.mozilla.org which is how I currently find things. (bug 365918)
    • I fixed this. We have a search box on top of every page now. Bug closed. --wenzel 15:48, 12 January 2007 (PST)
  • 08:27 <@fligtar|afk> i don't feel like going to the wiki right now, but the user info page is missing the author's name in 3 places, namely "User info for" and "Add-ons by" and the page title
    • The user info page is not missing anything: The nickname is displayed in the places you mentioned. (Just like amo v2 did). Are you suggesting to use the full name instead? --wenzel 13:56, 18 January 2007 (PST)
    • It's fixed: we use the full name instead. --wenzel 13:47, 30 January 2007 (PST)
  • This may be a vanilla bug, not sure: "Comment by made 1 day ago days ago"
    • That was a l10n bug and is likely to be still present in different languages due to a l10n tag inconsistency in the vanilla code. I fixed it in English and German, though. --wenzel 18:44, 16 January 2007 (PST)

clouserw's comments

  • the language list in the footer should select the language I'm currently browsing in, not always "English (US)" -- will fix. wenzel -- is fixed. wenzel 09:59, 3 January 2007 (PST)
  • on /addons/display, there is no way to see a single review without clicking "see all reviews" -- will fix. wenzel -- fixed. wenzel 12:27, 3 January 2007 (PST)
  • when adding a review, the "rating" can be any positive number -- will fix. wenzel -- fixed. wenzel 13:31, 3 January 2007 (PST)
  • When a user creates an account, they only see a "created successfully" flash. When they try to login, it says they have to confirm their account first, but it never says how. -- will fix. wenzel
    • is fixed. We display a much nicer page now. --wenzel 10:24, 16 January 2007 (PST)
  • on the /addons/display page, the "bad trip" link does nothing
    • it's gone now, until we see a need for it. --wenzel 18:50, 16 January 2007 (PST)
  • If there are no addons in a category, an unfriendly/unstyled message is flashed, and the user is redirected to the front page. (bug 365853)
    • maybe these category links should not even be displayed if they don't carry any add-ons. --wenzel 20:59, 2 January 2007 (PST)
    • This is fixed now: The message is still flashed like this, but empty categories are not shown anywhere anymore. If somebody sees this message, they changed URLs by hand. --wenzel 19:59, 18 January 2007 (PST)
  • Since search engines are addons now, if you type a search engine id into the URL, you get a really ugly display page
    • fixed. --wenzel 17:35, 30 January 2007 (PST)

wenzel's comments

  • Add-on lists (like search) don't say "version" before the number, while featured add-ons while browsing a single category do. -- will fix. wenzel -- fixed. wenzel 14:35, 5 January 2007 (PST)
  • The addon display page doesn't show the latest version by default, unlike the search and recommended addons page. -- fixed. wenzel 15:13, 5 January 2007 (PST)
  • Since an alpha version still comes with a few 404 errors, if shouldn't be the default cake page (bug 358098) -- fixed. wenzel 16:57, 8 January 2007 (PST)
  • Browse Add-ons page is kind of unfriendly and doesn't quite say what it is/does.
    • I made this a little less painful for now. Further improvements gladly accepted ;) --wenzel 10:24, 16 January 2007 (PST)
  • Developer usernames link to different places atm (URLs or nonexistent pages); we need a user info page and have them link there.
    • fixed, we have a user info page now and the names link there. --wenzel 18:50, 16 January 2007 (PST)
  • The "More..." link under "Popular Extensions" on the browse page goes nowhere.
    • removed until later. --wenzel 13:53, 30 January 2007 (PST)
  • Browse Category page has a "more" link for new and updated add-ons which leads to the new add-ons RSS feed (atm it's even a 404); it should maybe lead to a new page showing the new add-ons for this category only.
    • removed until later, RSS feeds inserted. --wenzel 13:53, 30 January 2007 (PST)
  • Browse Add-ons page could use category specific RSS feeds.
    • done. --wenzel 13:53, 30 January 2007 (PST)

xeen's comments

  • When browsing by category I don't know which category I am in ("Subscribe to this Category" isn't useful either. What about 'Subscribe to "XYZ"'?) (sancus)
  • Categories with only 1 extension/theme directly link to the theme, which is confusing (wenzel)
    • This is fixed: browsing was refactored; the pages have a headline now, among other things. --wenzel 19:59, 18 January 2007 (PST)
  • "Other Add-ons" only lists extension names but doesn't offer a link to "traditional" browsing with summaries.
    • fixed. --wenzel 19:59, 18 January 2007 (PST)
  • First page should explain what Add-Ons are before offering one. Experienced users can skip the explanation and scroll down, but my mum should read what extensions are anyway before. (fixed -- wenzel)
  • I don't see any developer link or page where I can upload/manage my extensions/themes (not yet implemented?)
    • fligtar's implementing this. --wenzel 18:50, 16 January 2007 (PST)
  • Extension summaries should be limited to a certain length so that we don't have 2 pages description when browsing extensions. I kind-of see this when looking at the extension's page where the same description appears twice. Is this supposed to be "long" and "short" description?
    • Yes, it is: That it's the same text is an import issue from amo v2; in the future, the first text will be a very short tagline, and the second text is a more extensive description of the add-on. --wenzel 16:06, 17 January 2007 (PST)
  • I'm asked to log-in when I want to view an extensions details?!
    • That's usually not the case: Which extension was the problem? --wenzel 14:02, 30 January 2007 (PST)
  • Browsing without images loses the UI element that separates extensions (left-top-corner-box.jpg). (Probably hard to impossible to fix)
    • That's true, the corner box is a vital style element. --wenzel 14:02, 30 January 2007 (PST)
  • Browsing without images makes "Mozilla Corporation" almost unreadable (dark yellow with default-purple underline when already visted, haven't checked if it wasn't visited yet)
    • That's a possible future CSS change. --wenzel 14:02, 30 January 2007 (PST)

dria's comments

  • User account creation needs some UE love, but I suspect you already know that. fixed in SVN r1464. A much nicer confirmation page is now shown. --wenzel 15:45, 12 January 2007 (PST)

jMax's comments (from blog)

  • The add-on licenses should be exposed, so the user knows what he's about to install.
    • EULAs are now displayed before installing. --wenzel 14:03, 30 January 2007 (PST)

reed's comments

markpeak's comments (from blog)

max's comments (from blog)

  • No RSS 1.0 feeds
    • That's true. Is there a common reason to require RSS 1.0? -- wenzel 15:01, 5 January 2007 (PST)

Myk's comments (from blog)

  • As with the current site, the search field is below the fold. (no scrolling should be required). -- mentioned by fligtar above. wenzel 14:59, 5 January 2007 (PST)
  • The Register and Login links are separated by vertical bars, but the Home, Browse, Search, and Discussions links are separated by dots, so at first I thought the latter were breadcrumbs, and I was confused about why Search was underneath Browse. Since they’re not breadcrumbs, it’s probably better to separate them by bars. fixed: We now have bread crumbs just like m.com --wenzel 15:27, 12 January 2007 (PST)
  • “Login” should probably be the verb “Log In”, since “Register” is a verb. fixed. wenzel 11:41, 10 January 2007 (PST)

dolske's comments (from blog)

  • The home page is a bit disorienting. Lots of text, and the most visually prominent stuff tends to be around the “featured extension,” which almost certainly isn’t what I’m looking for and is constantly changing. Something strong and static that lets me know “this is AMO” would be helpful.
    • We put the "what are add-ons?" text on top now. Hope that helps with this issue. -- wenzel 14:59, 5 January 2007 (PST)
  • Speaking of categories, I don’t see anything that identifies what category (section) I’m looking at. -- mentioned by xeen above. wenzel 14:59, 5 January 2007 (PST)
  • How is browsing an extension category going to work? There seems to only be a limited subset of extensions on the preview site, so it’s hard to tell. It looks like a category page has 1 major featured extension, 2 minor featured extensions, and then just a list of other extension titles. It’s a bit hard to browse the current AMO, but a big block of title links seems too condensed.
    • With the recent refactoring of the browse pages, this should be fixed. --wenzel 19:59, 18 January 2007 (PST)

Gijs' (Hannibal's) comments

  • Author links on recommended add-ons page are 404s. I don't see 404s however I mentioned that author links need to be fixed above. wenzel 11:26, 10 January 2007 (PST)
  • Extension pages have both a cut-off italic summary, and a full summary. Shouldn't the italic thing be scrapped? I don't really see the use of the duplicate text. Mentioned by xeen above, sorry. GijsKruitbosch 01:05, 10 January 2007 (PST)
  • There are small 'medals' next to extensions on the category pages. However, they don't have tooltips, are not links, and don't resurface on the actual addon page. What do they mean (and can we make that more clear in the actual addons UI)?
    • They meant "recommended" but were removed for now. --wenzel 19:59, 18 January 2007 (PST)
  • Could we sort categories, so it becomes easier to find something specific? Right now there's just unsorted lists of about 12-15 items, which is not very easy to use.
    • Now they are. --wenzel 19:59, 18 January 2007 (PST)
  • The "New and Updated" list on the "Extensions" page is missing the corner background.
    • Thanks, fixed. --wenzel 19:59, 18 January 2007 (PST)

Dao's comments

DonGato's comments

  • The search should be at the top of each page and less prominent. Maybe where register and login links are. see fligtar's section above. wenzel
  • There is no information about the last update of an extension (at least in the home page and most probably in the newest page as with current AMO, but I can't say as this page is not available in the preview). This is an important information while browsing extensions.
    • All Add-on lists are now similar, and all of them show the latest version number and release date. --wenzel 19:59, 18 January 2007 (PST)
  • 'Welcome to Mozilla add-ons' should stand up more in design but not space. Currently is taking a lot of space and not being necessarily clear.
    • Fixed, thanks --wenzel 14:05, 30 January 2007 (PST)

trev's comments

  • Default Locale field on /developers/add seems to encode entities twice, e.g. I see Fran&#231;ais there
  • If you don't select the addon type, you will get a second message: "That file extension (.xpi) is not allowed for the selected add-on type." That pretty pointless.
  • Having to re-upload files on errors is not nice at all. Files should be kept and the input field should be replaced by the file name to indicate that they are already there.
  • Isn't it possible to detect add-on type automatically? The file will need to be unpacked and analyzed anyway.
  • When I fill out all fields correctly I get the error "Could not move file". Stuck at step 1.

Please remember that the Developer Pages are not a part of the alpha preview and bugs/issues with them should be saved until the beta if they still exist.

pascalc's comments

Laurens Holst's comments (from blog)

  • autodetect language based on browsers language settings.
    • I implemented this already, it is in the trunk. --wenzel 10:24, 16 January 2007 (PST)

RenegadeX's comments

It's hard to test the Preview site properly with the limited # of addons currently added, but I 2nd everything already said on this page. Have you guys learnt nothing over 3+ revisions of AMO? Users are tearing out their hair crying, "All I want to do is find a specific addon or browse the mass of addons quickly and easily" - and yet with each AMO revision, it continues to be a frustrating experience:

  • Why is the Search box STILL at the bottom of the pages and not on every page - instead of being in a standard location at the top - so that no scrolling or clicking is required in order to access it? Enough people voiced their opinion when it was introduced in v2 - and I've yet to see anyone agree with AMO and say it's better on the bottom. This is absolutely ridiculous.
    • This is fixed in trunk and was intended since the beginning. Sorry for the confusion. --wenzel 10:07, 17 January 2007 (PST)
  • The site isn't written in Hebrew or Arabic, and yet the site layout is 'reversed'. I can't imagine the reason for suddenly breaking convention and moving the Menu over to the right. (hint: Menus are normally presented on the left in the Western world because we tend to look there first before moving our eyes to the right..)
    • Don't worry. This was fixed in the trunk recently: The navigation sidebar is on the left now. --wenzel 19:59, 18 January 2007 (PST)
  • What's with the layout of the Category pages (which you arrive at via 'Browse By Category').. 1 seemingly-random addon is prominent(full-width) at the top, with ONLY 2 ITEMS shown below it, sharing the horizontal space (rather than being all the same size, one below the other). What's the little blue-&-yellow icon by the lower 2 and why does the first item not have one? Why bother with an 'Other Add-ons' box at the bottom containing the names of other addons from the same category - after all, aren't I 'Browsing'?? There is no consistency here, nor logic, it seems.
    • This is fixed; the browsing page that was published on the alpha page was not done yet. In the trunk, this is now a list similar to the "recommended" page. --wenzel 19:59, 18 January 2007 (PST)
  • As 'Gijs' mentioned, the Category listing pages (such as 'Extensions') now display the categories in a seemingly-random jumble, rather than alphabetically, which is how it used to be. (Could you guys be any more obtuse?) To clarify, the old way was sorted alphabetically but read left-to-right across rows - better yet would be 3 alphabetically-sorted top-down columns with column separators between them.
    • Thanks for your input on how you would like the columns to be formatted. We agreed that this would be a good idea and implemented it this way. This is fixed in the trunk. --wenzel 19:59, 18 January 2007 (PST)
  • It seems (on the Recommended Addons page, anyhow) that the default # of results per page view is 5 - which is far too low. (It used to be 10, what was wrong with that?). And why even waste time with an option of 2 results per page?
    • Thanks, good point. I changed these defaults to 10 and removed the "2" option in the pagination component which does this feature for us. --wenzel 12:14, 17 January 2007 (PST)
  • Broken: The menu's "Find Similar Add-ons" items are currently linked incorrectly - they point to the Category, but not to the 'type'(1=Ext, 2=Theme), so nothing is found. ex: the Extensions category 'Search Tools' is currently http://preview.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/addons/browse/13 - but it should be "../browse/1/13"
    • links are fixed now. Additionally we are showing all relevant categories there, because this will possibly be of greater use for the user than just seeing a reduced amount of categories there. --wenzel 19:59, 18 January 2007 (PST)
  • What happened to 'more previews' link/text that used to be below an extension/theme's preview image? Gone or not yet implemented? Please implement and re-link the image (v2 removed this feature for some reason).
    • Yes, that will show up again. It's on my list. --wenzel
    • I added the preview browsing feature now. --wenzel 14:37, 23 January 2007 (PST)
  • Broken: Similar to above, the "Subscribe to this Category" RSS Link points to a feed URL such as http://preview.addons.mozilla.org/addons/rss/categories/13 - when it follows that it should be "/1/13". Interestingly, '13' and '1/13' both have stuff in them, category 1035 and category 1017 respectively. That's somewhat confusing, especially as the RSS feed does not have an identifiable-by-name name..
    • fixed in trunk. --wenzel 14:22, 30 January 2007 (PST)
  • (And echoing 'Gijs' - what's that little icon before "Version" for?)
    • It's a style element. --wenzel 19:59, 18 January 2007 (PST)
  • Where is "Previous Versions" link?
    • being fixed. --wenzel 14:22, 30 January 2007 (PST)
  • Where is the Rating for extensions and themes? These were important to the user in helping decide what extensions were worthwhile installing! Sure the numbers got skewed - but that was because of a poorly-thought-out Feedback/Comment system that forced users to leave a rating with a comment, and didn't allow users to edit their rating (see IMDB, perhaps?). You should have fixed the problems, rather than take the whole thing away. Is this progress? No.
    • There are reviews you can add, and you can edit your rating as well. Also, we moved discussions into the discussion forums while reviews are now meant for rating the add-on only. --wenzel 12:47, 17 January 2007 (PST)
  • Still no 'Browse All/Browse by letter' feature. This is sorely needed.
    • We have a "browse all" feature now (in trunk). --wenzel 18:29, 19 January 2007 (PST)
  • Why no Dictionaries link in the Menu? v2 never included it (to coincide with Firefox 2.0's introduction of the built-in spell-checker). Do that, and include a link to the Dictionaries extension Category on it, and vice-versa.
    • The dictionary page (looking like v2) is back. --wenzel 16:31, 2 February 2007 (PST)

Omnisilver's comments (from blog)

  • Create a page with microformats (or use microformats in the app, at least)
    • That's a future enhancement to consider. Thanks --wenzel 14:22, 30 January 2007 (PST)

LCaution's comments (from blog)

  • I’d like to have an option to display items with a one-line description. Display a simple, hyperlinked list, in alphabetical order, with the name of the extension/theme/whatever and a one-sentence description of what it does. Click on the one-liner and a new tab opens to a page with a full description, comments, download, etc.
    • Implemented by shaver. Thanks --wenzel 14:22, 30 January 2007 (PST)

Yoko's comments

  • The langage must be too selected by the UA.
    • it is, or it should be, at least. Doesn't that work for you? --wenzel 12:19, 20 January 2007 (PST)
      • I'm sorry, I don't has the Firefox's UA (but Epiphany UA). I'm really sorry for this.

Moe's comments (from blog)

Ah, just wrote this as a comment to an older entry but this was supposed to be a comment on the current design. So here it goes again: I don’t really like the new design, because

  • too much design, too few information. A lot of blank and wasted space
  • Probably still no way to list a lot of extensions with short descriptions to get an overview. Too much clicking, too much wasted time.
    • Sorry, but that's "probably" wrong. --wenzel 14:22, 30 January 2007 (PST)
  • Filesize would be nice, at least on the details page
    • It's there, above the release notes. --wenzel 12:35, 20 January 2007 (PST)
  • No releasedate information
    • What do you mean? Of course there is. In each list, like this one, for example, there are release dates. --wenzel 12:35, 20 January 2007 (PST)

Generally spoken: this goes solely in the direction “fancy” but it should mainly go in the direction “userfriendly” and “informative” (nothing against fancy, of course).

dolske's comments (number 2)

Overall it's looking good! Here are my comments:

  • The list of extension (and theme) categories seems to be in a random order. Please sort.
    • We did, meanwhile. Thanks! --wenzel 14:22, 30 January 2007 (PST)
  • I mentioned this last time, but it isn't clear how a category with lots of entries is going to show them all. Just a big pile of links at the bottom of the page? It might be helpful to add a 10 or 20 items in some category, so that the UI can be evaluated.
    • The next update will give you a much better impression of this: Clicking on a category now takes you to a list of add-ons. --wenzel 14:22, 30 January 2007 (PST)
  • "View Previous Releases" for an addon is 404.
    • Being fixed. --wenzel 14:22, 30 January 2007 (PST)
  • Can the URLs be made more readable? "http://xxx/en-US/addons/browse/1/38" is maningless, "http://xxx/en-US/addons/browse/extensions/image_browsing/" is much better.
    • We made them more readable meanwhile. They still use some numbers but it's much more clear now what they mean. --wenzel 14:22, 30 January 2007 (PST)
  • When viewing a specific addon, the breadcrumb should include the addon type... "Home > Addons > EXTENSIONS > IceWidget". Ideally the breadcrumb would show the trail you followed to get there (ie, the category), but that's probably a Harder Problem.
    • Thank you, I added the additional item. I am also sorry to say that tracking the trail is indeed not currently planned. --wenzel 14:22, 30 January 2007 (PST)
  • Simplify the extension details by dropping the time-of-day, and round the size to the nearest KB. "Version 2.89 — November 3, 2006, 1:28 pm — 171 Bytes" becomes "Version 2.89 - November 3, 2006 - 1KB". [Alternatively, drop the time-of-day if the date is more than a week old.] The version doesn't need to be shown both here and in the extension title (at the top of the page). Looks like a bug with the size, as everything seems to be about 200 bytes.
    • file size is now localized. "Datetime" will be replaced by date only. --wenzel 17:11, 31 January 2007 (PST)
  • The "Dictionaries" link on the right is a 404. Empty theme categories give just a plain "No addons in this category" page.
    • Both fixed. --wenzel 16:31, 2 February 2007 (PST)

Hmm, I guess that's enough comments for now! :-)

Archaeopteryx' comments

  • Wrong encoding of German special characters in [1]
    • Probs in the test data should be fixed now. --wenzel 16:31, 2 February 2007 (PST)
  • Categories as RSS feed ... only a placeholder, I guess
    • yes. Most RSS feeds are implemented in trunk. --wenzel 17:43, 31 January 2007 (PST)
  • Empty nickname field shouldn't be displayed (example)
    • Empty nicknames won't be common anymore. --wenzel 16:31, 2 February 2007 (PST)
  • too much waste of space in preview thumbnail page (example)
    • This example is extraordinary, because the pictures have a lot of white space around them. Other pages look much better. --wenzel 17:43, 31 January 2007 (PST)
  • Disable Sancus WoW-account
    • This is part of the test data and not of production data, so: no. --wenzel 17:43, 31 January 2007 (PST)