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* gozer is build engineer
* gozer is build engineer
* Slushy string freeze from: Tuesday 10th February 23:59 PST ('''1 week''')
* Slushy string freeze from: Tuesday 10th February 23:59 PST ('''1 week''')
* slushy Code freeze from: Thursday 12th February 23:59 PST
* Slushy Code freeze from: Thursday 12th February 23:59 PST
* Firm code/string freeze from: Tuesday 17th February 23:59 PST
* Firm code/string freeze from: Tuesday 17th February 23:59 PST
* l10n-mozilla-1.9.1 freeze from: Thursday 19th February 23:59 PST
* l10n-mozilla-1.9.1 freeze from: Thursday 19th February 23:59 PST
* (TBD) Testday to stress major new features like Activity Manager


* Blockers/Wanted
* Blockers/Wanted
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b2 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b2&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b1}}: 33 (+1)
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b2 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b2&target_milestone{{=}}3.0b1}}: 32 (0)
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&long_desc_type=substring&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=tb3needs&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=exact&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= TB 3 Needs] 4 (-1)
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&long_desc_type=substring&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=tb3needs&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=exact&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= TB 3 Needs] 5 (0)
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b2 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b2}}: 41 (-2)
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b2 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b2}}: 40 (-3)
* Proposed Blocking
* Proposed Blocking
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (b? + milestone)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|Thunderbird%203.0b2}}: 4 (+3)
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (b? + milestone)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|Thunderbird%203.0b2}}: 4 (+3)
* Fixed:
* Fixed:
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b2 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b2}}: 52 (+7)
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b2 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b2}}: 59 (+14)
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b2 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b2}}: 22 (+1)
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b2 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b2}}: 23 (+2)


''Mark bugs needing strings with status white board — [affects l10n]''
''Mark bugs needing strings with status white board — [affects l10n]''
* We need to drive bugs with large string changes, e.g., archive, auto config, activity manager
* We need to drive bugs with large string changes, e.g., archive, auto config, activity manager
** Archive patch landed.
** Archive patch landed.
** Activity Manager is awaiting a new patch from Emre.
** Activity Manager backend landed but hidden, to be unhidden when users land and non-mac themes land.
** <strike>AutoConfig {{bug|422814}}.</strike>
** <strike>AutoConfig {{bug|422814}}.</strike>
*** Moved to [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird 3.0b3]] release
*** Moved to [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird 3.0b3]] release
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* [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap]]
* [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap]]
* Blockers
* Blockers
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+] 117
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&sharer_id=1537 blocking-thunderbird3+] 116 (-1)
* Proposed Blocking
* Proposed Blocking
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 22
** {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers (all)|blocking-thunderbird3?|---|}}: 23 (+1)


* we now have [[User:Dmose:Component_Driving|component drivers]] so that people actually own keeping subsets of the blocking list well-triaged  
* we now have [[User:Dmose:Component_Driving|component drivers]] so that people actually own keeping subsets of the blocking list well-triaged  
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=== QA Updates ===
=== QA Updates ===
* After a leveling which started around September, [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/reports.cgi?product=Thunderbird&datasets=NEW%3A&datasets=ASSIGNED%3A&datasets=REOPENED%3A&datasets=UNCONFIRMED%3A&datasets=FIXED%3A&datasets=INCOMPLETE%3A&datasets=INVALID%3A&datasets=DUPLICATE%3A UNCO is headed back downhill]! The graph is also interesting in that it shows the rate of DUPs continues on a straight line despite all other activity.  dupes be gone! (or begone?)
* Bugday focus continues on [[Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2009-02-05|trunk bugs]]
* Some [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=crash&product=MailNews+Core&product=Thunderbird&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=topcrash&resolution=---&chfieldfrom=2008-08-01&chfieldto=Now open topcrashes] remain. Some have been recently fixed, but it would be great to get more into beta 2.  And we have almost [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=crash&product=MailNews+Core&product=Thunderbird&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=regression&resolution=FIXED&resolution=---&chfieldfrom=365d&chfieldto=Now no trunk regression crashes] which is at it should be (kudos to all!).
* Too [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&resolution=FIXED&bugidtype=include&bug_id=470119%2C65775%2C125928%2C204339%2C215068%2C254519%2C324953%2C325429%2C339740%2C377125%2C381555%2C382480%2C382694%2C387403%2C406921%2C411988%2C433307%2C437908%2C439470%2C452661%2C452832%2C455069%2C455947%2C460058%2C460636%2C464808%2C465057%2C465177%2C465372%2C467288%2C468155%2C470170&chfieldfrom=90d&chfieldto=Now&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=substring&value0-0-0=in-testsuite%3F many FIXED bugs have in-testsuite? flag] - no change since 2009-01-13
* topcrash lists on crash-stats are inaccurate


=== Roundtable ===
=== Roundtable ===
* we need to spin up an AUS server.  Gozer to drive figuring out what's involved.  Note that planning the major update from TB2(MoCo AUS) to TB3(MoMo AUS) will take some planning.
* Website launch schedule for TB3b2 (see rebron's update)


==== Status Updates ====
==== Status Updates ====


===== davida =====
===== davida =====
* driving
* work on activity manager (backend landed, autosync & move users next)
* work on thread & multiple selection bugs (448288, 454829)


===== dmose =====
===== dmose =====
* tb3 driving
* JS in messages policy & coding work
* security review process prep work
* gloda driving and review stuff, one or two other short reviews
* bugzilla component split discussion


===== nth10sd =====
===== nth10sd =====


* We may have one or two students from National University of Singapore who may be working on Thunderbird for ~3 months. More to follow in the coming weeks..
* We may have one or two students from National University of Singapore who may be working on Thunderbird for ~3 months. More to come in the coming weeks.. (See {{bug|471368}} as an example, though trivial. [http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/12/personas-for-firefox/ Personas] _might_ follow too.)
* Spent a bunch of time fixing up bugday results due to Bugzilla reorg phase 2.
* Spent a bunch of time fixing up bugday results due to Bugzilla reorg phase 2.


===== Standard8 =====
===== Standard8 =====
Non-goal activities:
* reviews (mainly activity manager)
* {{Bug|474439}} Fixed broken LDAP lookups (last of the TB known regressions from password manager landing afaik).
Two week goals (start of week 2):
* Implement send in background and hook up to activity manager.
** Resolved some issues with status updates {{Bug|476467}}
** Currently resolving issues with incorrect and wrong notifications to listeners, so that we can hook it up to the activity manager.
* Implement about:rights ({{Bug|463367}}
** Initial patch for just about:rights posted {{Bug|463367}}
** Have had some ideas for how to drive this forward.
* Try and get initial numbers for Ts to see if we can enable jemalloc.


===== asuth =====
===== asuth =====


===== bienvenu =====
===== bienvenu =====
* Reviews and driving
* Fixed {{bug|476135}} Clicking on bad newsgroup link messes up Thunderbird's accounts
* Fixed {{bug|417285}} Thunderbird inappropriately displays an alert when IMAP server returns a "NO" to list command
* Fixed archive for rss accounts {{bug|473217}}
* Fixed {{bug|370951}}, can't open/save imap attachments with # in name
* Fixed the outbox icon in the js folder pane {{bug|466261}}
* Worked on making actions apply to whole threads {{bug|448288}}


===== gozer =====
===== gozer =====
* Build
** Upgraded to buildbot 0.9.7+mozilla patches [success]
** Lots of little leftover buildbot/tinderbox fixes
** [http://isthetreegreen.com/?tree=Thunderbird3.0 GREEN] [http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=Thunderbird3.0 Tree] !
** Tree and Builders are now stable, performance/reliability issues are resolved
** We now have nightly linux trunk builds
** We have the beginning of a pool of builders on Win32
*** Win32 trunk bloat, comm-1.9.1 bloat and dep/nightly builders are now a pair
* Web
** Our very own copy of [http://gozer.ectoplasm.org/blog/archive/2009/02/markus-stanges-tinderboxpushlog.html Markus Stange's tinderboxpushlog]
* Infrastructure
** Lots of experiments and progress with the SIP Phones situation
** Looks like we really will need our own AUS


===== clarkbw =====
===== clarkbw =====
* [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird 3.0b2|3.0b2]] release driving work
* various bugs
** {{bug|461098}} &mdash; "Reply All" button missing when in message preview
*** {{bug|456829}} &mdash; messagereader: honor font & color system defaults
** {{bug|466674}} &mdash; default action should be to send out html + plaintext w/o asking
* various ui-reviews
** {{Bug|473217}} &mdash; archive command doesn't work in rss feeds


===== wsmwk =====
===== wsmwk =====
* triaged Outlook import bugs needing fields, most of the remaining open ones into meta {{bug|271976}} (similar to {{bug|423488}} but specific to outlook)
* bugday
* closed 101 bugs in last 2 weeks


===== beckley =====
===== beckley =====
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===== KaiRo =====
===== KaiRo =====
* More buildsystem porting work landed: {{bug|475111}}, {{bug|476149}}, {{bug|475120}}
* {{bug|474732}} - speeding up builds again when configure runs by not rebuilding the world when autoconf.mk is regenerated but only when it actually changes: landed on comm-central and today on mozilla-central, waiting for baking and approval to get onto 1.9.1


===== philipp / Calendar =====
===== philipp / Calendar =====
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===== rebron =====
===== rebron =====
* QAing [[https://wiki.mozilla.org/Marketing:Thunderbird_WebsitePlan web site]] and wrapping up content loose ends.   
Next two weeks:
* Investigating Google Adwords to drive distribution.
* Add-ons migration for Thunderbird 3.
===== Tsk =====
* catching up on how things work.


=== Attendees ===
=== Attendees ===

Latest revision as of 18:15, 3 February 2009

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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

Agenda

Action Items

New

Open

  • davida to look at status meeting agenda due to the drivers meeting that follows later in the morning.

Closed

Thunderbird 3 Beta 2

  • For reference, Gecko 1.9.1b3: Jan 13 Code Freeze, Jan 15 QA, Jan 26 Release according to their plan.
  • clarkbw is release driver
  • gozer is build engineer
  • Slushy string freeze from: Tuesday 10th February 23:59 PST (1 week)
  • Slushy Code freeze from: Thursday 12th February 23:59 PST
  • Firm code/string freeze from: Tuesday 17th February 23:59 PST
  • l10n-mozilla-1.9.1 freeze from: Thursday 19th February 23:59 PST
  • (TBD) Testday to stress major new features like Activity Manager

Mark bugs needing strings with status white board — [affects l10n]

  • We need to drive bugs with large string changes, e.g., archive, auto config, activity manager

Thunderbird 3

  • we now have component drivers so that people actually own keeping subsets of the blocking list well-triaged
  • bug list much more believable, thanks to last week's work
  • things to file & triage:
    • component drivers: blocking+ / blocking? bugs
    • dmose: message reader bugs
  • new triage rules
    • to stay on blocking+ list, a bug must be owned by someone, even if that's (temporarily) the component driver.
      • owned-by-driver bugs should have [needs owner] in status whiteboard
  • to think about:
    • when do we branch? (i suspect immediately after b2)
    • when do we lock down the branch for only blocking+ and approved+ (i suspect a couple of weeks after b2)
    • There will be a TB 3 beta 3 (milestone created in bugzilla)

QA Updates

Roundtable

  • we need to spin up an AUS server. Gozer to drive figuring out what's involved. Note that planning the major update from TB2(MoCo AUS) to TB3(MoMo AUS) will take some planning.
  • Website launch schedule for TB3b2 (see rebron's update)

Status Updates

davida
  • driving
  • work on activity manager (backend landed, autosync & move users next)
  • work on thread & multiple selection bugs (448288, 454829)
dmose
  • tb3 driving
  • JS in messages policy & coding work
  • security review process prep work
  • gloda driving and review stuff, one or two other short reviews
  • bugzilla component split discussion
nth10sd
  • We may have one or two students from National University of Singapore who may be working on Thunderbird for ~3 months. More to come in the coming weeks.. (See bug 471368 as an example, though trivial. Personas _might_ follow too.)
  • Spent a bunch of time fixing up bugday results due to Bugzilla reorg phase 2.
Standard8

Non-goal activities:

  • reviews (mainly activity manager)
  • bug 474439 Fixed broken LDAP lookups (last of the TB known regressions from password manager landing afaik).

Two week goals (start of week 2):

  • Implement send in background and hook up to activity manager.
    • Resolved some issues with status updates bug 476467
    • Currently resolving issues with incorrect and wrong notifications to listeners, so that we can hook it up to the activity manager.
  • Implement about:rights (bug 463367
    • Initial patch for just about:rights posted bug 463367
    • Have had some ideas for how to drive this forward.
  • Try and get initial numbers for Ts to see if we can enable jemalloc.
asuth
bienvenu
  • Reviews and driving
  • Fixed bug 476135 Clicking on bad newsgroup link messes up Thunderbird's accounts
  • Fixed bug 417285 Thunderbird inappropriately displays an alert when IMAP server returns a "NO" to list command
  • Fixed archive for rss accounts bug 473217
  • Fixed bug 370951, can't open/save imap attachments with # in name
  • Fixed the outbox icon in the js folder pane bug 466261
  • Worked on making actions apply to whole threads bug 448288
gozer
  • Build
    • Upgraded to buildbot 0.9.7+mozilla patches [success]
    • Lots of little leftover buildbot/tinderbox fixes
    • GREEN Tree !
    • Tree and Builders are now stable, performance/reliability issues are resolved
    • We now have nightly linux trunk builds
    • We have the beginning of a pool of builders on Win32
      • Win32 trunk bloat, comm-1.9.1 bloat and dep/nightly builders are now a pair
  • Infrastructure
    • Lots of experiments and progress with the SIP Phones situation
    • Looks like we really will need our own AUS
clarkbw
  • 3.0b2 release driving work
  • various bugs
    • bug 461098 — "Reply All" button missing when in message preview
      • bug 456829 — messagereader: honor font & color system defaults
    • bug 466674 — default action should be to send out html + plaintext w/o asking
  • various ui-reviews
    • bug 473217 — archive command doesn't work in rss feeds
wsmwk
  • triaged Outlook import bugs needing fields, most of the remaining open ones into meta bug 271976 (similar to bug 423488 but specific to outlook)
  • bugday
  • closed 101 bugs in last 2 weeks
beckley
Penelope
KaiRo
  • More buildsystem porting work landed: bug 475111, bug 476149, bug 475120
  • bug 474732 - speeding up builds again when configure runs by not rebuilding the world when autoconf.mk is regenerated but only when it actually changes: landed on comm-central and today on mozilla-central, waiting for baking and approval to get onto 1.9.1
philipp / Calendar
rkent
rebron
  • QAing [web site] and wrapping up content loose ends.

Next two weeks:

  • Investigating Google Adwords to drive distribution.
  • Add-ons migration for Thunderbird 3.
Tsk
  • catching up on how things work.

Attendees

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