Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2008-12-16

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Thunderbird Meeting Details

• Tuesday, Dec 16, 17:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)
• How to dial-in

Agenda

• Who's taking minutes? --> asuth nth10sd (Gary!)
• Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.

Action Items

New

• dmose - Draw up straw man schedule for shipping one month after Firefox.
• dmose - Suggest to drivers about a new flag for potential post-TB3 blockers.

Closed

• dmose: Add simon and gozer to drivers list

Thunderbird 3 Beta 2

• Drivers meeting last Thursday.
• Probably not much would be done in the next week or two -- Christmas / New Year.
• Dates below may get pushed back.
• dmose notes about Gecko's code freeze dates in Jan.
  • Standard8: Jan 13 Code Freeze, Jan 15 QA, Jan 26 Release according to their plan.

• clarkbw is release driver
• gozer is build engineer
• (Slushy?) Proposed String freeze from: Monday 26th January 23:59 PST
• (Slushy?) Proposed Code freeze from: Thursday 29th January 23:59 PST

• We need to make decisions as we triage blocking bugs below - will they eventually make it into TB3?
• i.e. get them assigned or push them off..
  • Those that get pushed out beyond TB3 should have a flag to track them - dmose to suggest this to drivers.

• Sidenote - SeaMonkey probably will release an Alpha in line with TB3b1, a Beta in line with TB3rc, and a final a couple of weeks after TB3.

• Blockers/Wanted
  • TB 3.0b2 - blocking: 75 (2 down from last week)
  • TB 3.0b2 - wanted: 27
• Proposed Blocking
  • Proposed Blockers (b2): Query TBD
  • Proposed Blockers (b? + milestone): 10
• Fixed:
  • TB 3.0b2 - blocking: 11
  • TB 3.0b2 - wanted: 8

Thunderbird 3

• Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap

QA Updates

• Past bugdays
  • Since bugdays started, we have commented in or closed ALL Thunderbird UNCO bugs (excl. enhancements) that haven't had a comment since TB 2.0 release! (2007-04-07 to be exact)
  • So far bugday has touched over 4,700 bugs, of which over 1,600 resolutions changed, accounting for one third of all (non-FIXED) resolution changes since bugday started (4,800)
• Next bugdays
  • Will be whacking at the corresponding NEW bugs (excl. enhancements). Queries are at the bugday wiki pages.
  • One last bugday this year -- Christmas and New Year both happen to fall on a Thursday, so no bugday after 12/18 until 1/8/2009.
• Crashes
  • TB2 topcrashes (besides ntdll.dll) - all related to large messages or messages with attachments / interrupting message display?
    • bug 373895 Crash when moving from partly displayed large IMAP message to another IMAP folder [@ nsImapProtocol::SetupWithUrl] (doesn't exist on trunk afaict)
    • bug 403272 crash typically retrieving attachments/images [@ nsSocketTransport::OpenInputStream]
    • bug 364007 Crash when navigating through new mail with key 'N' [@ nsSocketTransport::OpenOutputStream]
  • TB3 topcrash
    • bug 422907 crashes at exit nsMsgLocalMailFolder::GetTrashFolder(nsIMsgFolder**)

Roundtable

• Standard8 would like to propose we add an "Account Manager" component under the "MailNews Core" product - the code is shared, and I don't see it needing to be split. Would probably make bug management easier.

Status Updates

dmose

• this past week
  • partial week due to vacation/sick day
  • met with Ubuntu folks re Thunderbird collaboration
  • SF office-space related prep work
  • various code, strategy & architectural discussions
• upcoming week
  • on vacation Monday 12/22 through Friday 12/26
  • goals (by friday, 12/19)
    • land JS-in-mailnews patches
    • make significant gloda review progress
    • catch up on momo board meeting stuff
    • progress on review backlog

nth10sd

• Getting back up to speed with bugmail and such.
• One last 2008 bugday hurrah this Thursday.
• Jumping into the TB mozmill wagon.
• Mozmill patch in bug 459719.
• JS fun from the past weeks:
  • Patch for bug 452329
  • Discovered bug 466585, bug 467495, bug 469254, bug 469405, bug 469625

Standard8

Two week goals (End of week 2):

• Move to toolkit password manager (in progress)
  • Made the decision to not migrate the password manager list to reflect up to date passwords - too many issues, not good enough solutions at the moment. Probably revisit post TB 3. This makes the task easier.
  • Submitted patch and tests for SMTP protocol handlers bug 469807
    • Required so that toolkit password manager can use IOService.newURI.
  • LDAP already submitted bug 419595
  • Now looking at POP/IMAP/News handlers.
• Move Leak and Bloat tests to be controlled by MozMill
  • Made some good progress, now have a basic script and a good idea of how to refine it for the mozmill in leak & bloat.
  • tracked down a number of mozmill/jsbridge/mozrunner integration issues.
  • Currently blocked by the mentioned mozmill issues - mainly that when using mozrunner/jsbridge the APIs are limited such that we can't actually choose to run Thunderbird.
    • MozMill team is working on improving APIs, hoping to get an updated version this week.
• Write down extended roadmap overview for the address book (based on discussion during MoMo work week).
  • Started this, need to arrange meeting to discuss.

Other work:

• Reviews
• Unit tests
  • Added some debugging to try and work out why we get an intermittent failure removing files 462269 bug Bug 462269 (need to follow that up).
• Build Config
  • bug 469392 Let MOZILLA_1_9_1_BRANCH define work in c++ code.
  • bug 469396 Don't re-read version.txt when we don't need to in our own tree.
  • bug 469655 Drop intermediate makefiles in mail/themes
  • bug 469835 Wrote patch for having different version numbers on comm-central + mozilla-central builds (versus comm-central + mozilla-1.9.1 builds)
• Misc
  • bug 469090 Edit vcard in Account Manager broken.
  • bug 469797 Hopefully fix nsUserInfoUnix so that displaying the User's name in the account wizard will work correctly for non-ascii names.
  • Finished bug 462147 - allow TB to migrate SeaMonkey 2.x profiles.

Two week goals (Start of week 1):

• Complete Password Manager migration
• Complete moving Leak and Bloat to Mozmill
• Lead Address Book discussions
• Investigate fixing LDAP Issues with threads and shutdown.
• Look at Performance tests
  • Get some rough ideas of what & how.
  • See if we can get a Ts structure in place (or something else)
    • This would be useful for jemalloc and assessing implementing a packages-static file for unix.

bienvenu

• Reviews and driving
• Took Friday off
• Worked on fixing the open db bloat
• Beta 1 Post Mortem scheduled for Thursday, 9:30AM PST

Two week goals (week 2):

• Turn autoconfig branch into a reviewable patch for trunk
  • Brought auto config repo up to date with trunk changes. Deferring rest of work until I've finished the folder archiving work
• Finish folder compaction changes and unit tests.
  • Code written; need to test
• Reduce review queue backlog
  • Making progress on review queue

Two week goals (week 1)

• Finish folder archiving work. bug 451995

gozer

• Build
  • Buildbot
    • Great cleaning up starting this week
  • Signinig
    • Initial conversation with John
    • Our process will have to be different
  • Bouncer
    • We should get our own, keep the existing mirror network
    • How many downloads for Thunderbird 3 Final ?

• Web
  • SpreadThunderbird moving along
    • Drupal Security patches
  • Google Analytics
    • www.mozillamessaging.com Done
    • spreadthunderbird.com Staging
  • Cleaned up Webalizer for some Beta 1 Graphs (Blogged)

• Infrastructure
  • Qualys security audit was a nice surprise
  • Working on getting us more hardware
  • More/Better monitoring/trending

clarkbw

• Driving and Bug Reviews
• exptoolbar toolbar changes, not ready for push yet
  • Blog about better searching for mail, due out this week

• Two Week Goals (end of week 2):
  • Push new iteration of Conversation List into exptoolbar
    • Already pushed last week
  • Review Conversation Reader and continue to iterate on
    • Latest changes already pushed into reader

wsmwk

• Possible suggested new Component for new bugs?

KaiRo

• My "pretty package name" fixup for directory names inside packages made 1.9.1 now (bug 453840)

rebron

• Press round-up for Thunderbird 3 Beta 1. Press was positive.
• Web site is wrapping up design phase for hand-off to silver orange. current files See files dated December 11.
• Google Analytics on MozillaMessaging.com will be getting it on SpreadThunderbird.com as well.
• Workaround fix for What's New page.

Two week goals (week 2):

• Support documentation, audit (see what we have on .org and .com) and plan for what we need for beta 2 and final release.
• Web site production hand-off to silver orange and global teams.
• Update SpreadThunderbird with analytics module, events module and printed materials.

Attendees

dmose, nth10sd, wsmwk, gozer, rebron, standard8, clarkbw, kairo, bienvenu, emre