Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-03-03

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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

• Tuesday, Mar 3rd, 17:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)
• How to dial-in

Agenda

• Who's taking minutes? --> Standard8
• Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.

Action Items

Closed

• rebron: add marketing section along side q/a section

Thunderbird 3 Beta 2

Completed

Post Mortem Notes

Thunderbird 3 Beta 3

• dmose is release driver
• gozer is build engineer
• Schedule TBD (drivers working through User_talk:Dmose:Tb3_Driving_Scratchpad)

• Blockers/Wanted
  • TB 3.0b3 - blocking: 73 (+3)
  • TB 3.0b3 - wanted: 23 (+2)
• Proposed Blocking
  • Proposed Blockers (b? + milestone): 1
• Fixed:
  • TB 3.0b3 - blocking: 14 (+11)
  • TB 3.0b3 - wanted: 4 (+1)

Thunderbird 3

• Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap
• Blockers
  • blocking-thunderbird3+ 115 (+1)
  • TB 3 Needs: 4
• Proposed Blocking
  • Proposed Blockers (all): 17 (-4)

• Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.
• If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don't want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.
• Trying to put together a schedule that will land features every week or two. dmose will be putting a plan together.

QA Updates

• Need better visibility on upcoming features in order to plan testing.
• Working on getting more people to come testing.
  • Trying one query instead of 10.
  • This weeks testday: [1]
• Last test day better than previous one.
• Crash-stats seems to be usable - very responsive due to added db indexes.
• Top Crashes ordered by assignee may need some triage

Marketing Updates

• Good launch of Tb3 beta 2 and new web site. About 35k beta 2 users. Got positive feedback on the web site.
• Working on next round of updates for the web site.
• Participating with the overall Mozilla Community marketing efforts which is picking up steam.
• Focus on the next few weeks is working on getting add-ons upgraded and supported from a marketing perspective.

Roundtable

• Concerned about extra FF beta and effect on TB. Thinking about TB shipping before gecko 1.9.1 if it is possible.
• We should soon have a person hired full-time to work on Thunderbird icons etc.
• Timing for feature lock down?
  • looking at working it out in the next couple of days
  • possibly branch in approx 3 weeks, but may also be better to do as late as possible.
  • in general, reviewers will focus on reviewing blocking bugs, so other stuff will move out more. But helps to get releases out the door.
• What's happening with Calendar, following the announcements?
  • calendar still isn't working on b2? (works for Standard8, they have been doing ongoing fixes).
  • what's the plan to make it move forward?
    • we are trying to figure it out
    • calendar team are looking to get a release of Lightning out on Beta 2 in the next few weeks.
    • Also looking to get a release out in sync with TB release.
    • Plan isn't nailed down.
  • Announcements has helped some people to come forward.

Status Updates

davida

• a lot of non-TB stuff (recruiting, talking to industry folks, etc.)
• some driving

Goals:

• move ahead on bug 436555
• figure out plan for poptarts w/ Standard8

dmose

• Last week
  • lots Tb3/3.0b3-driving work
  • misc reviews
  • fixed debug mode crash bug 479906
  • worked improving message header (more) widget bug 480073
  • high-level project health discussions
• Goals for this week
  • get basic Tb3 and 3.0b3 schedules drafted
  • 1 hr per day code review
  • finish message-header (more) patch bug 480073
  • draft SF space plan

nth10sd

• Bugdays, QA, triage etc.
• bug 479989 - Successful QA.
  • Input response time of "hide details" and "other actions" buttons is inappropriately impacted by size of recipient list
• JS: Extensive flux still going on in main platform JS code, notably heavyweight patch bug 452498, finding testcases there often.

Standard8

• Reviews
• Fixed bug 405762 Remove the phonetic fields from vcard editing as they aren't valid for vcards.
• Fixed bug 480127 about:rights info bar should use "open source software" not "open software".
• Fixed bug 479982 Adding a vcard from an email does not work.
• Fixed Core bug 480324 Link state detection on Mac OS X not always working (offline, auto detect) - waiting a few days before nominating for 1.9.1.
• Spent some time debugging going offline and downloading messages (bug 471695

Two week goals:

• Reduce review backlog to zero
• bug 450134 - Autocomplete perf improvement (inc restore autocomplete on other email addresses).
  • Proposed a patch for this, got review comments, need to improve.
• bug 440794 - Implement policy for sending in background, pref off to begin with.
• bug 457296 - Design interfaces for a separate service (i.e. not directly linked to address book) to determine allowing remote images to load or not.

asuth

• work continues on gloda-search, hope to have a revised implementation that uses heuristics to assign a score to each message (rather than binning it by simply matching on contact, subject, body, or attachment name)
• gloda i18n indexing correctness patch up for review (the problem is in the emitter/js emitter subsystem), but it will probably be a while before I get to the tokenizer problems.
• once gloda-search lands, there is a bunch of performance work to still do; Wayne and others are experiencing memory use explosions that we need to understand and address.

bienvenu

• Reviews and driving/bug triage
• trying to get review queue under control
• Fixed several issues in the auto config repo (verifyLogon with cert exceptions, username guessing had regressed, etc), and landed all but one of the backend changes on the trunk - bug 480026.
• Fixed crash on startup in nsMsgIdentity::getFolderPref, bug 480556
• Fixed expanding imap folders when not using subscription by sending a performExpand notification bug 472129
• Fixed bug 439108, maintain copy of offline imap message when move/copying a message.
• Fixed crash when server gives us empty alert message, bug 479927
• Fixed bug 481065 - local folder db's opened unnecessarily on startup
• Put up patch for review for using IMAP STATUS in IMAP auto sync bug 428266

Plan for next week

• Figure out plan for autoconfig with Bryan and DavidA
• work on App Idle for auto sync.
• Pick up smart folders work again
• work on miscellaneous b3 blockers.

gozer

• Build
  • Launched Thunderbird 3 Beta 2!
  • Mac OS X trunk dep/nightly builds
  • Mac OS X Builders now pooled
  • Try server (in progress)
  • Clobberer server (in progress)

• Web
  • Launched the new website, looking great!
  • Redirecting lots of traffic from mozilla.com
    • Saw > 1,000,000 hits in the last 24 hours
    • > 80k visits in the last 24 hours
    • > 40k unique visits to the 3.0b2 Start page in the last 96 hours

• Infrastructure
  • Crash tested failure of one of our front-facing nodes, no noticeable downtime.
  • Starting to push out real traffic now, no significant issues. (>3Mbit/s)
  • Need some sort of analytics process for all this yummy log goodness.

• Still recovering from the sick... bleh

clarkbw

• post-mortem tomorrow
• catching up on bugs & ui reviews
• linux/mac icons & theme stuff

wsmwk

• crash, threading/missing messages, filter and profile bugs
• pushed on crash-stats and litmus issues
  • crash-status is much improved

beckley

Penelope

• Fixed bug 480899 where the auto-save attachments folder pref wasn't being used
• In the process of syncing to TB 3.0 beta 2 sources

rkent

• back-end work, soft tagging (looking at adding it into rss & news).

Tsk

• prepared test day
• Walked through all open printing bugs
• Will attend the end of MozCamp/Utrecht
• Working on Tb3b3 plan.

• Two week goals :
  • Try to communicate more effectively
  • explain what and why QA is important - to try to get w few more people onboard
  • Plan tb3.0b3 testing

Attendees

• davida, dmose, Standard8, bienvenu, asuth, gozer, clarkbw, wsmwk, beckley, rkent, rebron, Tsk