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=== Notetaker ===
<h3> Notetaker </h3>
dmose
<p>dmose
</p>
<h3> Agenda &amp; Notes </h3>
<ul><li> Account Provisioning
<ul><li> The add-on is ready to start testing against live servers.
</li><li> We expect them to be available "in the next couple of days".
</li></ul>
</li></ul>
<ul><li> 3.0 EOL
<ul><li> 3.0.4 -&gt; 3.1.4 Pushed out
<ul><li> before push: 124k users; 119k -&gt; 106k this week.
</li><li> unclear why numbers have not gone down; suspicion is that folks have turned off updates
</li></ul>
</li><li> [todo] Standard8 to drive experimenting with revising start pages to inform users about old/unsupported versions to provoke more updates
</li><li> 3.0 EOL discussion now on tb-planning, release-drives plus sent to our Linux contacts.
<ul><li> If no issues, hope to do announcement in-sync with 3.1.5/3.0.9 release or before next Tuesday's meeting.
</li></ul>
</li></ul>
</li></ul>
<ul><li> 3.2
<ul><li> Standard8 needs to document flags
</li><li> Otherwise still waiting for branching decision based on account provisioning.
</li></ul>
</li></ul>
<ul><li> Trunk
<ul><li> PPC nightly builds suspected broken (<span class="fck_mw_template">{{bug|600965}}</span>)
<ul><li> Really should follow MoCo with 32/64 bit nightlies.
</li><li> Build has one 64 bit mac up and running. Need to fix issues with MailNews code.
</li></ul>
</li><li> Various dogfood issues, possibly including gloda &amp; file locking; dmose to investigate &amp; file
</li></ul>
</li></ul>
<ul><li> 3.1.x and 3.0.x
<ul><li> Watching one issue (<span class="fck_mw_template">{{bug|601440}}</span>, otherwise ok for release.
</li><li> Looking to do advanced planning on next release to try and minimise late-landers.
</li></ul>
</li></ul>
<ul><li> Anti-Virus Vendors
<ul><li> (outstanding) Standard8 planning to set up mailing list to inform partners, who have sounded receptive in initial discussions. Currently waiting on feedback from Kaspersky.
</li></ul>
</li></ul>
<ul><li> Advertised major updates
<ul><li> 3.0 -&gt; 3.1.x:
<ul><li> 11th Aug @ 10%, 13th Aug @ 25%, 25th Aug completely unthrottled.
</li><li> 7th September: Major updates removed due to 3.0.7 release.
</li><li> 3.0.8 -&gt; 3.1.4 available manually from 17th Aug
</li></ul>
</li><li> Suggest unthrottling 3.0.8 -&gt; 3.1.4 on Tuesday 28th as then that will mean they will have had a 1.5 weeks to upgrade
</li><li> 2.0 -&gt; 3.1.x:
<ul><li> 18th Aug @ 10%, 31st Aug @ 20%
</li><li> 2.0.0.24 -&gt; 3.1.4 available from 17th Aug
</li></ul>
</li><li>&nbsp;% ADUs across each build:
</li></ul>
</li></ul>
<table border="1" align="center">
<tr>
<th>Date </th><th> 2.0 </th><th> 3.0 </th><th> 3.1
</th></tr>
<tr>
<td> 11 Aug </td><td> 47.7 </td><td> 33.2 </td><td> 19
</td></tr>
<tr>
<td> 30 Aug </td><td> 40.5 </td><td> 15.7 </td><td> 43.8
</td></tr>
<tr>
<td> 7 Sept </td><td> 34.1 </td><td> 13.1 </td><td> 52.2
</td></tr>
<tr>
<td> 13 Sept </td><td> 30.7 </td><td> 12.7 </td><td> 56.6
</td></tr>
<tr>
<td> 20 Sept </td><td> 28 </td><td> 12.7 </td><td> 59.3
</td></tr>
<tr>
<td> 27 Sept </td><td> 25.8 </td><td> 12.5 </td><td> 61.7
</td></tr>
<tr>
<td> 4 Oct </td><td> 24.3 </td><td> 10.6 </td><td> 65
</td></tr>
<tr>
<td> 11 Oct </td><td> 22.8 </td><td> 9.7 </td><td> 67
</td></tr></table>
<ul><li> may wait for 3.1.5 to unthrottle further in order to catch mac topcrasher, image problem, initial space problem fixes; Standard8 to decide
</li><li> Roland to work on Support article on making 3.1.x like 2.0.x
</li></ul>
<ul><li> Conversion funnel
<ul><li> retention numbers similar to funnelcake 1
</li><li> next step: prep for funnelcake 3 (probably as part of 3.1.5)
</li><li> Rafael to talk to MoCo metrics team re funnelcake dashboard
</li></ul>
</li></ul>
<h2> Attendees </h2>


=== Agenda & Notes ===
[http://www.example.com link title]
 
* Account Provisioning
** The add-on is ready to start testing against live servers.
** We expect them to be available "in the next couple of days".
 
* 3.0 EOL
** 3.0.4 -> 3.1.4 Pushed out
*** before push: 124k users; 119k -> 106k this week.
*** unclear why numbers have not gone down; suspicion is that folks have turned off updates
** [todo] Standard8 to drive experimenting with revising start pages to inform users about old/unsupported versions to provoke more updates
** 3.0 EOL discussion now on tb-planning, release-drives plus sent to our Linux contacts.
*** If no issues, hope to do announcement in-sync with 3.1.5/3.0.9 release or before next Tuesday's meeting.
 
* 3.2
** Standard8 needs to document flags
** Otherwise still waiting for branching decision based on account provisioning.
 
* Trunk
** PPC nightly builds suspected broken ({{bug|600965}})
*** Really should follow MoCo with 32/64 bit nightlies.
*** Build has one 64 bit mac up and running. Need to fix issues with MailNews code.
** Various dogfood issues, possibly including gloda & file locking; dmose to investigate & file
 
* 3.1.x and 3.0.x
** Watching one issue ({{bug|601440}}, otherwise ok for release.
** Looking to do advanced planning on next release to try and minimise late-landers.
 
* Anti-Virus Vendors
** (outstanding) Standard8 planning to set up mailing list to inform partners, who have sounded receptive in initial discussions. Currently waiting on feedback from Kaspersky.
 
* Advertised major updates
** 3.0 -> 3.1.x:
*** 11th Aug @ 10%, 13th Aug @ 25%, 25th Aug completely unthrottled.
*** 7th September: Major updates removed due to 3.0.7 release.
*** 3.0.8 -> 3.1.4 available manually from 17th Aug
** Suggest unthrottling 3.0.8 -> 3.1.4 on Tuesday 28th as then that will mean they will have had a 1.5 weeks to upgrade
** 2.0 -> 3.1.x:
*** 18th Aug @ 10%, 31st Aug @ 20%
*** 2.0.0.24 -> 3.1.4 available from 17th Aug
** % ADUs across each build:
{|border=1 align=center
!Date !! 2.0 !! 3.0 !! 3.1
|-
| 11 Aug || 47.7 || 33.2 || 19
|-
| 30 Aug || 40.5 || 15.7 || 43.8
|-
| 7 Sept || 34.1 || 13.1 || 52.2
|-
| 13 Sept || 30.7 || 12.7 || 56.6
|-
| 20 Sept || 28 || 12.7 || 59.3
|-
| 27 Sept || 25.8 || 12.5 || 61.7
|-
| 4 Oct || 24.3 || 10.6 || 65
|-
| 11 Oct || 22.8 || 9.7 || 67
|}
* may wait for 3.1.5 to unthrottle further in order to catch mac topcrasher, image problem, initial space problem fixes; Standard8 to decide
* Roland to work on Support article on making 3.1.x like 2.0.x
 
* Conversion funnel
** retention numbers similar to funnelcake 1
** next step: prep for funnelcake 3 (probably as part of 3.1.5)
** Rafael to talk to MoCo metrics team re funnelcake dashboard
 
== Attendees ==

Revision as of 16:15, 12 October 2010

Notetaker

dmose

Agenda & Notes

  • Account Provisioning
    • The add-on is ready to start testing against live servers.
    • We expect them to be available "in the next couple of days".
  • 3.0 EOL
    • 3.0.4 -> 3.1.4 Pushed out
      • before push: 124k users; 119k -> 106k this week.
      • unclear why numbers have not gone down; suspicion is that folks have turned off updates
    • [todo] Standard8 to drive experimenting with revising start pages to inform users about old/unsupported versions to provoke more updates
    • 3.0 EOL discussion now on tb-planning, release-drives plus sent to our Linux contacts.
      • If no issues, hope to do announcement in-sync with 3.1.5/3.0.9 release or before next Tuesday's meeting.
  • 3.2
    • Standard8 needs to document flags
    • Otherwise still waiting for branching decision based on account provisioning.
  • Trunk
    • PPC nightly builds suspected broken (bug 600965)
      • Really should follow MoCo with 32/64 bit nightlies.
      • Build has one 64 bit mac up and running. Need to fix issues with MailNews code.
    • Various dogfood issues, possibly including gloda & file locking; dmose to investigate & file
  • 3.1.x and 3.0.x
    • Watching one issue (bug 601440, otherwise ok for release.
    • Looking to do advanced planning on next release to try and minimise late-landers.
  • Anti-Virus Vendors
    • (outstanding) Standard8 planning to set up mailing list to inform partners, who have sounded receptive in initial discussions. Currently waiting on feedback from Kaspersky.
  • Advertised major updates
    • 3.0 -> 3.1.x:
      • 11th Aug @ 10%, 13th Aug @ 25%, 25th Aug completely unthrottled.
      • 7th September: Major updates removed due to 3.0.7 release.
      • 3.0.8 -> 3.1.4 available manually from 17th Aug
    • Suggest unthrottling 3.0.8 -> 3.1.4 on Tuesday 28th as then that will mean they will have had a 1.5 weeks to upgrade
    • 2.0 -> 3.1.x:
      • 18th Aug @ 10%, 31st Aug @ 20%
      • 2.0.0.24 -> 3.1.4 available from 17th Aug
    •  % ADUs across each build:
Date 2.0 3.0 3.1
11 Aug 47.7 33.2 19
30 Aug 40.5 15.7 43.8
7 Sept 34.1 13.1 52.2
13 Sept 30.7 12.7 56.6
20 Sept 28 12.7 59.3
27 Sept 25.8 12.5 61.7
4 Oct 24.3 10.6 65
11 Oct 22.8 9.7 67
  • may wait for 3.1.5 to unthrottle further in order to catch mac topcrasher, image problem, initial space problem fixes; Standard8 to decide
  • Roland to work on Support article on making 3.1.x like 2.0.x
  • Conversion funnel
    • retention numbers similar to funnelcake 1
    • next step: prep for funnelcake 3 (probably as part of 3.1.5)
    • Rafael to talk to MoCo metrics team re funnelcake dashboard

Attendees

link title

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