SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2013-01-08

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SeaMonkey Meeting Details

Agenda

  • Who's taking minutes? -> TBD
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • TBD

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

  • -

OPEN

  • Ratty filed bug 803168 [Meta] Port Installer Changes from Firefox as at 2012/10. Hopes people will help with some of the referenced bugs.

CLOSED

  • -

Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • Intermittent issue with Mac OSX64 Debug Leak log comprehension. Issue tracked in bug 774844 and bug 811199 (Port |bug 794510 Build with NO_NSPR_10_SUPPORT| to SeaMonkey). Also see possibly related Thunderbird bug 806492.
  • All our machines are now at SCL3 or SCL1.
    • The remaining machines on Parallels are the buildmaster (cb-seamonkey-linuxmaster-01) and Linux64 (cb-seamonkey-linux64-01). These need to be migrated to ESX. Specifically:
      • sea-vm-linux64-1 will replace cb-seamonkey-linux64-01.
      • sea-master1 will replace the current buildmaster.
    • bug 740633 set up seamonkey HPs in scl3. Hardware installed and iLO configured. CentOS 6.3 installed. sea-puppet is online. Callek to set the host up as a puppet master.
  • bug 817504 Update Python on buildslaves to Python 2.7 as Python 2.7 will be required soon


Release Train

  • 2.15 Beta 4 shipped December 14
  • 2.15 Beta 5 shipped December 21
  • 2.15 Beta 6 shipped January 2

Extensions Compatibility Tracking

  • See Basics page. Please only list current changes here.
  • Addon Compatibility Listings
    • Extensions are now compatible by default thus mitigating the issue. Although some people still disable c-b-d and run into issues.
    • Nothing to highlight.
  • Our build team (Callek, ewong, Serge) needs to automate DOMI branch selection rather than having to tweak the client.py every 6 weeks. bug 763506
    • sgautherie thinks that the current DOMi branches/tags are not suitable for automatic SeaMonkey branch selection.
    • Need some traction on this. IanN spoke to Serge at MozCampEU. Serge is waiting for Callek/ewong to agree what needs to happen and to say what is workable or not.
    • In the past Serge often pushed this forward for us. But with Serge on a sabbatical, Ewong thinks he should talk to Callek in getting this automated.
    • For 2.15, compat bumps were done as lined out in bug 808426.

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

  • 2.14 had ~X ADU by last Tuesday and 2.14.1 has had ~Y downloads so far.
    • Of the released versions, as of last Tuesday, we have A% on 2.0, B% on 2.1-2.3, C% on 2.4-2.6, D% on 2.7-2.9, E% on 2.10-2.12, F% on 2.13 and G% on 2.14. So, in the last two weeks, there has been a ~Hk (I% of ADU) decrease in those using 2.7 or above.
    • Some people cannot upgrade due to system requirements (OS version, processor capabilities etc.). This even more applies to 2.10 which dropped support for Win2k and WinXP without SP2, and 2.14 dropping Mac OS X 10.5 support.
    • We now have a webpage for latest builds available for "Legacy Platforms" like PPC (bug 759315)
  • See Basics page for the usual reminders.

2.14

open tracking (0) tracking requests (0) targeted (0) fixed (15)

  • One tracked 2.5 issue still open.
    • 2.1 through 2.7 have NOT included the ka (Kartvelian aka Georgian) locale. The last release with ka locale shipped was 2.0.14. The ka l10n maintainer has made some recent updates but;
    • Callek thinks we should remove ka, unless we can get commitment from the ka person to actually update things himself instead of dumping tarballs on us and expecting us to check it in for him. Tracked in bug 667147.
  • SeaMonkey 2.14 Release Notes

2.Next

  • InvisibleSmiley would like to highlight bug 815012 (Mail messages corrupt after running filters) which he personally experienced and added to the Release Notes of both 2.14 and 2.15. It's probably a quite serious dataloss bug.
    • The bug has been fixed in time for 2.15 Beta 6, i.e. will be fixed in 2.15.
  • InvisibleSmiley would like to ask all contributors who set bugs to FIXED to also set the Target Milestone (TM) to the current trunk version at the same time if a patch was landed. See public Bugzilla saved search "SM fixed w/o TM" for recent bugs that have TM = ---.
  • Current breakages:
    • TBD
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Note: Please file bugs if you notice any landing on mozilla-central that might break us. Please don't depend on Ratty noticing such landings.
    • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
      • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
    • bug 737615 Remove use of synchronous cache API from unit tests. Tracked in:
      • bug 804972 Remove synchronous calls to nsICacheSession::openCacheEntry in SeaMonkey tests.
    • bug 793634 Force builds to be compatible with gtk 2.18/glib 2.22. Tracked in:
      • bug 795354 Migrate SeaMonkey Linux builders to CentOS 6.
      • bug 794772 Port |Bug 713802 - Build with GIO support (and drop GnomeVFS)|
    • bug 795144 default --disable-gnomeui icon theme support
      • porting bug needed for the two configure.in changesets? Changes could be folded into bug 794772 above.
    • bug 804865 Require Python 2.7 to build the tree. Tracked in:
      • bug 817504 update all SeaMonkey slaves to use python 2.7.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 20 new, 14 fixed, 6 triaged.

  • Low triaging effort.

Open reviews/flags: 33 review 7 super-review 1 ui-review 7 feedback

  • See Feature List page for major wanted/needed features.
    • Out of sight out of mind. The trouble with shuffling this off to another page makes these issues less discoverable. Ratty suggests featuring one or more bugs from that page at each meeting.
  • Featured helpwanted bugs:
    • bug 664309 Make the built-in ChatZilla display a cZ icon in SeaMonkey.

Good First Bugs

  • Note: The GFB list is open to all including our regular contributors.
  • Ratty is working on an updated GFB list, suggestions welcome.
  • New GFBs recently added:
    • bug 815820 Fix SeaMonkey 2.14 README on ftp server on how to get the source code
    • bug 814739 rename gMsgCompose in addressbook-panel.js to something unique.
    • bug 812050 [modern] some dialog boxes clipped at the bottom. Need to add commonDialog.css to Modern.
  • Currently there are 28 GFBs open, 3 are being actively worked on. bug 735333 needs some help getting this running on the try-server.
  • List of Open mentored bugs.
    • Ratty notes that there are 24 bugs that are GFBs but without the mentor keyword. These need to be audited to see if they are really suitable as GFBs.
  • In the last two weeks since the previous meeting:
    • bug 795158 Switch to Services.jsm: /editor/ui/ -> is being worked on
    • bug 735333 Use Services.prefs instead of preferences-service / gPrefService, in SeaMonkey code -> patches are currently tested by Frank Wein locally on his own PC
  • Mentors of stalled bugs should try to communicate with the assignees and if they can't work on them any more to unassign/free up those bugs.

Roundtable - Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

Aqualon

Callek

ewong

IanN

InvisibleSmiley

KaiRo

mcsmurf

Misak

Mnyromyr

MReimer

Neil

Ratty

Ricardo

sgautherie

Stanimir

stefanh

tonymec

Any other business?

  • Safe browsing API (Google)
  • Test failures
    • qawanted, especially on Linux and MacOSX specific issues: reproducing and reporting would already help.
    • Serge says that on Linux and MacOSX, he just needs someone to actually run the tests and report what they see (screen, console, etc). For example, there is a Mac test about Ctrl+W not working. This should be so trivial.
    • Tonymec suggests that any enthusiastic user, even non-technical, should be able to do some testing (litmus?) and not be scared by technical language and such.
    • IanN suggests reaching out to the user community using the newsgroups and forums.
    • Ratty to liaise with Serge when he gets back on doing a write up how the community can help us with this.
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