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I don't like the mangling between feeds and URLs. We should get a good feedview, and if you add tags there, fine. If you add tags to a page, it should just be the page. In my experience, feeds and the webpages linking to them are not really equivalent that often. --[[User:AxelHecht|AxelHecht]] 10:30, 27 Oct 2005 (PDT) | I don't like the mangling between feeds and URLs. We should get a good feedview, and if you add tags there, fine. If you add tags to a page, it should just be the page. In my experience, feeds and the webpages linking to them are not really equivalent that often. --[[User:AxelHecht|AxelHecht]] 10:30, 27 Oct 2005 (PDT) | ||
== Bookmarking and Tagging == | |||
Bookmarking has definitely changed with the evolution of the web | |||
(http://tdot.blog-city.com/evolution_bookmarking.htm). It is now time to rethink about the UI to address the new requirements. The current interface for BOOKMARKS / FAVORITES is optimal for "quick access to a small number of items with a high frequency of revisiting". But the "large number of items with a low frequency of revisiting" needs a new concept (http://tdot.blog-city.com/rethinking_bookmarks_ui.htm). I consider it an INDEX / PERMANENT HISTORY of websites. Just saving these websites as bookmarks doesn't result in anything useful because organizing a directory or scanning the large list manually takes to long, and the saved titles usually don't contain the search terms I use. However, annotating the titles of bookmarks has been very useful before tagging became an issue (see above "Evolution of Bookmarking"). It turned out that commas between tags didn't add anything. Instead of tags with multiple associated words I use multiple single-word tags separated by spaces as in natural sentences (also suggested by del.ios.us). This is sufficient for the search and allows me to use the concept of "ordered tags" (http://tdot.blog-city.com/advanced_tagging_with_ordered_tags.htm). | |||
== Tagging UI == | |||
The tagging interface I like the best is del.icio.us' web interface for posting (opened and pre-filled with a bookmarklet). It shows all used tags as a tag cloud and supports find-ahead suggestions while typing. This has limited the tendency of folksonomies to create multiple words for one topic. And its has reduced random spelling errors and the parallel use of plural and singular. Putting tags in an one-dimensional list would result in an extremely long list with endless scrolling. This was acctually the reason I never switched in the past to an alternative bookmark managers with keywords. I see tags as a form of annotation. This semantic annotation depends primarily on my current interest. For that reason I would like to have an interface that allows me to see and change tags parallel to reading the website. May be in a Sidebar, "Bottombar", or in a dynamic tool like the find tool that is activated by a single key. But this tool should not be limited to tagging. It should also integrate a large field for free annotations. My search tools are currently not specific for tags but include everything: URL, title, tags, and annotations (http://tdot.blog-city.com/firefox_hacks_bm_search.htm). | |||
It fails only in a few cases when the search term is a very common word or pattern so that I get to many results. A suggest button, a filter that scans the content of the website for all my tags, an automatic language tag, and pre-filling by a manually defined URL -> tags list would be great. I guess the three-panel and two-panel concept would only work for "main tags" but not for common sizes of tag lists because of the access by scrolling issue. See for example http://johnvey.com/features/deliciousdirector/. Very useful would be a simple button that bookmarks the website and adds a predefined tag(s), e.g. 2read, without any other user interaction. And for power users, it would be a great advantage if the tool would support GET-like function as Flock does for some tools, e.g. chrome://browser/content/bookmarks/bookmarksManager.xul?url=http://www.foobar.org&tags=cool, so that bookmarklets can be used to develop quick solutions for specific problems. | |||