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<h1> QA Staff Meeting Notes February 8, 2012  </h1>
= QA Staff Meeting Notes February 8, 2012  =
<h2> Meeting Details </h2>
 
<pre class="_fck_mw_lspace"> # Every Weds @ 1:30p Pacific Time - Mozilla HQ, Warp Core  
== Meeting Details ==
#
  # Every Weds @ 1:30p Pacific Time - Mozilla HQ, Warp Core  
# Vidyo:  https://v.mozilla.com/flex.html?roomdirect.html&amp;key=UK1zyrd7Vhym
  #
# Phone:  +1 650 903 0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 95312 (US/INTL)
  # Vidyo:  https://v.mozilla.com/flex.html?roomdirect.html&key=UK1zyrd7Vhym
#        +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95312 (US Toll Free)
  # Phone:  +1 650 903 0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 95312 (US/INTL)
#        +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 95312 (Canada)
  #        +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95312 (US Toll Free)
# IRC:    <a href="http://widget.mibbit.com/?settings=1b10107157e79b08f2bf99a11f521973&amp;server=irc.mozilla.org&amp;channel=%23qa">irc://irc.mozilla.org:6697/#qa</a>
  #        +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 95312 (Canada)
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  # IRC:    [http://widget.mibbit.com/?settings=1b10107157e79b08f2bf99a11f521973&server=irc.mozilla.org&channel=%23qa irc://irc.mozilla.org:6697/#qa]
<h2> QA Org Items </h2>
 
<ul><li> New Hires &amp; Interviews
== QA Org Items ==
<ul><li> item
* New Hires & Interviews
</li></ul>
** item
</li><li> Community Member Onboarding
* Community Member Onboarding
<ul><li> item
** item
</li></ul>
* Upcoming Events
</li><li> Upcoming Events
** 10th February - Firefox <strike>Beta</strike> Aurora for Android [https://quality.mozilla.org/2012/02/firefox-beta-for-android-test-day-friday-february-10th-2012/ Test Day]
<ul><li> 10th February - Firefox <strike>Beta</strike> Aurora for Android <a href="https://quality.mozilla.org/2012/02/firefox-beta-for-android-test-day-friday-february-10th-2012/">Test Day</a>
** 20th - 24th February: [http://lanyrd.com/2012/webqa-work-week/ WebQA Work Week] (Mozilla SF)
</li><li> 20th - 24th February: <a href="http://lanyrd.com/2012/webqa-work-week/">WebQA Work Week</a> (Mozilla SF)
** 23rd February: [https://quality.mozilla.org/2012/02/webqa-live-test-day-thursday-february-23rd-2012/ WebQA 'Live' Test Day] (Mozilla SF)
</li><li> 23rd February: <a href="https://quality.mozilla.org/2012/02/webqa-live-test-day-thursday-february-23rd-2012/">WebQA 'Live' Test Day</a> (Mozilla SF)
** 24 - 25 February: [http://www.seleniumcamp.com Selenium Camp] in Kiev, Ukraine. David Burns is keynoting
</li><li> 24 - 25 February: <a href="http://www.seleniumcamp.com">Selenium Camp</a> in Kiev, Ukraine. David Burns is keynoting
** 23rd March: [http://www.ministryoftesting.com/training-events/testbash/ TestBash] (Cambridge, UK)
</li><li> 23rd March: <a href="http://www.ministryoftesting.com/training-events/testbash/">TestBash</a> (Cambridge, UK)
* PTOs
</li></ul>
**
</li><li> PTOs
 
<ul><li>
== QA Team Updates  ==
</li></ul>
 
</li></ul>
=== Desktop Firefox (Juan)  ===
<h2> QA Team Updates  </h2>
* Fx.Next
<h3> Desktop Firefox (Juan)  </h3>
** Firefox 11.0b2 builds should be in QA by tomorrow, shipping Friday
<ul><li> Fx.Next
** Firefox 13 Nightly successfully merged, tracking features/bugs for channel
<ul><li> Firefox 11.0b2 builds should be in QA by tomorrow, shipping Friday
** Private Browsing memory regression discovered with our Mozmill Endurance tests ({{bug|724677}})
</li><li> Firefox 13 Nightly successfully merged, tracking features/bugs for channel
* Firefox ESR (ashughes)
</li><li> Private Browsing memory regression discovered with our Mozmill Endurance tests (<span class="fck_mw_template">{{bug|724677}}</span>)
** Firefox 10.0.1 ESR builds should be in QA by Thursday, shipping Friday
</li></ul>
* Crash Investigation
</li><li> Firefox ESR (ashughes)
** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/2012-02-07#Stability_Report Stability Report for this week]
<ul><li> Firefox 10.0.1 ESR builds should be in QA by Thursday, shipping Friday
** [https://etherpad.mozilla.org/Bug-90268 Regressions on trunk from Bug 90268]
</li></ul>
 
</li><li> Crash Investigation
=== Browser Technologies (Tony)  ===
<ul><li> <a href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/2012-02-07#Stability_Report">Stability Report for this week</a>
*Fennec (Kevin/Aaron)  
</li><li> <a href="https://etherpad.mozilla.org/Bug-90268">Regressions on trunk from Bug 90268</a>
** Beta builds compiled but wont be shipped; delay as we wait for GL Layers improvements and iron out more beta blockers (See [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Notes/08-Feb-2012#Major_Topics_for_This_Week Developer Topic Notes])
</li></ul>
** Testing [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Fennec/Milestones/10.0/Release/10.0.1 10.0.1 XUL]
</li></ul>
** Stability (nhirata)
<h3> Browser Technologies (Tony)  </h3>
*** See https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Mobile/Testing/02_08_12#Crash_Stats for graph
<ul><li>Fennec (Kevin/Aaron)  
*** All Java crashes reported, new bugs with repro steps in
<ul><li> Beta builds compiled but wont be shipped; delay as we wait for GL Layers improvements and iron out more beta blockers (See <a href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Notes/08-Feb-2012#Major_Topics_for_This_Week">Developer Topic Notes</a>)
*** top crashes have been resolved this week and last week.
</li><li> Testing <a href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Fennec/Milestones/10.0/Release/10.0.1">10.0.1 XUL</a>
*** Need to get out that people should make sure to update to the latest builds
</li><li> Stability (nhirata)
*Sync (Tracy)
<ul><li> See https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Mobile/Testing/02_08_12#Crash_Stats for graph
**
</li><li> All Java crashes reported, new bugs with repro steps in
*Test pilot (tracy)
</li><li> top crashes have been resolved this week and last week.
**
</li><li> Need to get out that people should make sure to update to the latest builds
*Sync Server (jbonacci/jrgm)
</li></ul>
** Testing as needed for weekly Change/Maintenance Windows
</li></ul>
*BrowserID (jbonacci/jrgm)
</li><li>Sync (Tracy)
** Work continues on current train that supports Primaries and Localization of 41 languages
<ul><li>
** Decision was made this morning to slow the releases from weekly to every two weeks
</li></ul>
*Pancake (nhirata)
</li><li>Test pilot (tracy)
** Work week this week; QA in Mnt View as Fennec takes priority
<ul><li>
** Pancake statement to be made this week
</li></ul>
** most moving parts are to be joined together, graph of lattice (how a user ends up going from one page to the next) can be seen
</li><li>Sync Server (jbonacci/jrgm)
** iOS app to be done either end of this week or next; beta of iOS app suppose to be done by end of quarter
<ul><li> Testing as needed for weekly Change/Maintenance Windows
*B2G (jhammink)
</li></ul>
**
</li><li>BrowserID (jbonacci/jrgm)
* Apps Desktop/Mobile (jsmith)
<ul><li> Work continues on current train that supports Primaries and Localization of 41 languages
** Completed initial mobile world congress testing across windows 7, Galaxy S2, Desire HD, Galaxy Tab
</li><li> Decision was made this morning to slow the releases from weekly to every two weeks
*** Results are [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiGNxoNUJbvzdG9LRU9uWnJNVElnQVVnMnVfd1hXNHc&hl=en_US#gid=0 here]
</li></ul>
** Prepared test cases for final test run before Mobile World Congress
</li><li>Pancake (nhirata)
** Next - Run test cases when final desktop extension and Soup builds are ready
<ul><li> Work week this week; QA in Mnt View as Fennec takes priority
 
</li><li> Pancake statement to be made this week
=== WebQA (Stephen) ===
</li><li> most moving parts are to be joined together, graph of lattice (how a user ends up going from one page to the next) can be seen
* AMO
</li><li> iOS app to be done either end of this week or next; beta of iOS app suppose to be done by end of quarter
**Read Me is in the process of getting updated
</li></ul>
**Stupchiy is working on a vagrant/virtualbox of downloadable tests
</li><li>B2G (jhammink)
**We cleaned out our pull request queue to get mobile test infrastructure in place
<ul><li>Currently - rebuilding and rerunning against bug triage: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/B2G-Bug-Triage-1-31
* Engagement Projects
</li><li>Use-Cases available for MWC demo at: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/MWC-demo-Use-Cases
** [http://careers.mozilla.org/en-US/ Mozilla careers] released
</li><li>Test plan in the works, exploratory testing  against use-cases and UX design right now
* Input
</li><li>Automation
**
</li><li>(basic) Marionette cases for Telephony currently working on Emulator; have 2 and 3 emulators working now; edge cases currently being developed against https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/telephony/nsIDOMTelephonyCall.idl
* Mozilla.com
</li><li>(basic) Marionette case for SMS currently working on Emulator; edge cases TBD
** shipped 1.5
</li></ul>Both telephony and sms marionette automationactually working on device
* MDN
</li><li> Apps Desktop/Mobile (jsmith)
** working on planning for 2.2 shipping 02/14 and 2.3
<ul><li> Completed initial mobile world congress testing across windows 7, Galaxy S2, Desire HD, Galaxy Tab
* Socorro
<ul><li> Results are <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiGNxoNUJbvzdG9LRU9uWnJNVElnQVVnMnVfd1hXNHc&amp;hl=en_US#gid=0">here</a>
**
</li></ul>
*SUMO
</li><li> Prepared test cases for final test run before Mobile World Congress
**[http://moxie.jamessocol.com/bugstats/sumo/2012-02-07 2/7] release went out
</li><li> Next - Run test cases when final desktop extension and Soup builds are ready
**[http://moxie.jamessocol.com/bugstats/sumo/2012-02-14 2/14] release in progress
</li></ul>
 
</li></ul>
=== Community (Marcia===
<h3> WebQA (Stephen</h3>
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/QA_Community/Meetings/2012-02-08 QA Community Meeting today]
<ul><li> AMO
** Please add discussion items to the agenda
<ul><li>Read Me is in the process of getting updated
** Community Meeting with David Boswell
</li><li>Stupchiy is working on a vagrant/virtualbox of downloadable tests
*** It was decided to roll his meeting into our bi-weekly Wednesday meeting, so David will attend the meeting at 4 PM today.
</li><li>We cleaned out our pull request queue to get mobile test infrastructure in place
* Upcoming Testdays/BugDays/Meetups
</li></ul>
** Thursday February 2nd: SUMO Questions day, 253+ questions after Firefox 10 release, over 80% answered by contributors!
</li><li> Engagement Projects
** Friday, February 10: [https://quality.mozilla.org/2012/02/firefox-beta-for-android-test-day-friday-february-10th-2012/ Firefox Beta for Android Testday] (aaronmt)
<ul><li> <a href="http://careers.mozilla.org/en-US/">Mozilla careers</a> released
** Friday, February 17: Desktop and Android Web Apps Testday
</li></ul>
** Thursday, February 23: [https://quality.mozilla.org/2012/02/webqa-live-test-day-thursday-february-23rd-2012/ WebQA Live Testday] (davehunt)
</li><li> Input
 
<ul><li>
* Video Work
</li></ul>
** Discuss replacing the video that is on the first run nightly page?
</li><li> Mozilla.com
 
<ul><li> shipped 1.5
*QMO.next (Raymond):
</li></ul>
** Working with Craig Cook to solve a couple of bugs and plan next release
</li><li> MDN
 
<ul><li> working on planning for 2.2 shipping 02/14 and 2.3
* Documentation
</li></ul>
** (ashughes) Posted a revision to the [https://quality.mozilla.org/docs/testdays/ testday documentation] in an effort to make things simpler and to put the power of success in the hands of organizers, less gatekeeper oriented
</li><li> Socorro
** (ashughes) Published a mozmill-tests [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Desktop_Firefox/Automation#Commit_Policy commit policy], opening the door for community members to become committers
<ul><li>
 
</li></ul>
=== QA Automation Service (Henrik, David)  ===
</li><li>SUMO
==== General ====
<ul><li><a href="http://moxie.jamessocol.com/bugstats/sumo/2012-02-07">2/7</a> release went out
* Mozmill 1.5.9 with jsbridge fix for Python 2.7.2 has been released
</li><li><a href="http://moxie.jamessocol.com/bugstats/sumo/2012-02-14">2/14</a> release in progress
* Selenium 2.19 has been released
</li></ul>
 
</li></ul>
====Project updates====
<h3> Community (Marcia) </h3>
===== On-Demand Test Framework (Geo) =====
<ul><li> <a href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/QA_Community/Meetings/2012-02-08">QA Community Meeting today</a>
*
<ul><li> Please add discussion items to the agenda
 
</li><li> Community Meeting with David Boswell
===== Mozmill 2.0 Automation Scripts Update (Henrik) =====
<ul><li> It was decided to roll his meeting into our bi-weekly Wednesday meeting, so David will attend the meeting at 4 PM today.
* No update
</li></ul>
 
</li></ul>
===== CI system for daily and l10n Firefox Builds (Henrik) =====
</li><li> Upcoming Testdays/BugDays/Meetups
* No update
<ul><li> Thursday February 2nd: SUMO Questions day, 253+ questions after Firefox 10 release, over 80% answered by contributors!
 
</li><li> Friday, February 10: <a href="https://quality.mozilla.org/2012/02/firefox-beta-for-android-test-day-friday-february-10th-2012/">Firefox Beta for Android Testday</a> (aaronmt)
===== Mozmill Dashboard Validation (DavidB) =====
</li><li> Friday, February 17: Desktop and Android Web Apps Testday
* No update
</li><li> Thursday, February 23: <a href="https://quality.mozilla.org/2012/02/webqa-live-test-day-thursday-february-23rd-2012/">WebQA Live Testday</a> (davehunt)
 
</li></ul>
===== MemChaser extension =====
</li></ul>
* Release of MemChaser v0.1.1 on AMO: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/memchaser/ (Already 420 downloads even without the targeted blog post)
<ul><li> Video Work
* Work on v0.2 has been started (circular buffer, improved logging)
<ul><li> Discuss replacing the video that is on the first run nightly page?
* Next task is to revamp the complete documentation around project activities to offer entry points for community members
</li></ul>
 
</li></ul>
===== Open Positions (DavidB) =====
<ul><li>QMO.next (Raymond):
* Have got team adding labels to Github projects so we can now poll it.
<ul><li> Working with Craig Cook to solve a couple of bugs and plan next release
 
</li></ul>
===== Weekly Blog Posts =====
</li></ul>
* Henrik: [http://www.hskupin.info/2012/02/06/fosdem-2012-add-on-sdk-and-slides-for-mozmill-ci/ FOSDEM 2012, Add-on SDK, and slides for Mozmill CI]
<ul><li> Documentation
* Henrik: [http://www.hskupin.info/2012/02/08/how-i-fixed-a-mozmill-freeze-by-bisecting-python/ How I fixed a Mozmill freeze by bisecting Python]
<ul><li> (ashughes) Posted a revision to the <a href="https://quality.mozilla.org/docs/testdays/">testday documentation</a> in an effort to make things simpler and to put the power of success in the hands of organizers, less gatekeeper oriented
 
</li><li> (ashughes) Published a mozmill-tests <a href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Desktop_Firefox/Automation#Commit_Policy">commit policy</a>, opening the door for community members to become committers
===== [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/TCM Case Conductor] =====
</li></ul>
*
</li></ul>
 
<h3> QA Automation Service (Henrik, David) </h3>
== Roundtable/Discussion Items ==
<h4> General </h4>
* [https://metrics.mozilla.com/pentaho/content/pentaho-cdf-dd/Render?solution=metrics&path=bugzilla/solr/QA&file=QA.wcdf QA Bugzilla Dashboard] - Is it being used? Why or Why not? (jsmith)
<ul><li> Mozmill 1.5.9 with jsbridge fix for Python 2.7.2 has been released
 
</li><li> Selenium 2.19 has been released
== Notes, Takeaways and Action Items  ==
</li></ul>
 
<h4>Project updates</h4>
=== Today ===
<h5> On-Demand Test Framework (Geo) </h5>
* Add notes here
<ul><li>
**
</li></ul>
=== Last Meeting ===
<h5> Mozmill 2.0 Automation Scripts Update (Henrik) </h5>
* Action Items
<ul><li> No update
**
</li></ul>
<h5> CI system for daily and l10n Firefox Builds (Henrik) </h5>
<ul><li> No update
</li></ul>
<h5> Mozmill Dashboard Validation (DavidB) </h5>
<ul><li> No update
</li></ul>
<h5> MemChaser extension </h5>
<ul><li> Release of MemChaser v0.1.1 on AMO: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/memchaser/ (Already 420 downloads even without the targeted blog post)
</li><li> Work on v0.2 has been started (circular buffer, improved logging)
</li><li> Next task is to revamp the complete documentation around project activities to offer entry points for community members
</li></ul>
<h5> Open Positions (DavidB) </h5>
<ul><li> Have got team adding labels to Github projects so we can now poll it.
</li></ul>
<h5> Weekly Blog Posts </h5>
<ul><li> Henrik: <a href="http://www.hskupin.info/2012/02/06/fosdem-2012-add-on-sdk-and-slides-for-mozmill-ci/">FOSDEM 2012, Add-on SDK, and slides for Mozmill CI</a>
</li><li> Henrik: <a href="http://www.hskupin.info/2012/02/08/how-i-fixed-a-mozmill-freeze-by-bisecting-python/">How I fixed a Mozmill freeze by bisecting Python</a>
</li></ul>
<h5> <a href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/TCM">Case Conductor</a> </h5>
<ul><li>
</li></ul>
<h2> Roundtable/Discussion Items  </h2>
<ul><li> <a href="https://metrics.mozilla.com/pentaho/content/pentaho-cdf-dd/Render?solution=metrics&amp;path=bugzilla/solr/QA&amp;file=QA.wcdf">QA Bugzilla Dashboard</a> - Is it being used? Why or Why not? (jsmith)
</li></ul>
<h2> Notes, Takeaways and Action Items  </h2>
<h3> Today </h3>
<ul><li> Add notes here
<ul><li>
</li></ul>
</li></ul>
<h3> Last Meeting </h3>
<ul><li> Action Items
<ul><li>
</li></ul>
</li></ul>
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