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| <h1> QA Staff Meeting Notes February 8, 2012 </h1>
| | = QA Staff Meeting Notes February 8, 2012 = |
| <h2> Meeting Details </h2>
| | |
| <pre class="_fck_mw_lspace"> # Every Weds @ 1:30p Pacific Time - Mozilla HQ, Warp Core
| | == Meeting Details == |
| #
| | # Every Weds @ 1:30p Pacific Time - Mozilla HQ, Warp Core |
| # Vidyo: https://v.mozilla.com/flex.html?roomdirect.html&key=UK1zyrd7Vhym
| | # |
| # Phone: +1 650 903 0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 95312 (US/INTL)
| | # Vidyo: https://v.mozilla.com/flex.html?roomdirect.html&key=UK1zyrd7Vhym |
| # +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95312 (US Toll Free)
| | # Phone: +1 650 903 0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 95312 (US/INTL) |
| # +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 95312 (Canada)
| | # +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95312 (US Toll Free) |
| # IRC: <a href="http://widget.mibbit.com/?settings=1b10107157e79b08f2bf99a11f521973&server=irc.mozilla.org&channel=%23qa">irc://irc.mozilla.org:6697/#qa</a>
| | # +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 95312 (Canada) |
| </pre>
| | # IRC: [http://widget.mibbit.com/?settings=1b10107157e79b08f2bf99a11f521973&server=irc.mozilla.org&channel=%23qa irc://irc.mozilla.org:6697/#qa] |
| <h2> QA Org Items </h2>
| | |
| <ul><li> New Hires & Interviews
| | == QA Org Items == |
| <ul><li> item
| | * New Hires & Interviews |
| </li></ul>
| | ** item |
| </li><li> Community Member Onboarding
| | * Community Member Onboarding |
| <ul><li> item
| | ** item |
| </li></ul>
| | * Upcoming Events |
| </li><li> Upcoming Events
| | ** 10th February - Firefox <strike>Beta</strike> Aurora for Android [https://quality.mozilla.org/2012/02/firefox-beta-for-android-test-day-friday-february-10th-2012/ Test Day] |
| <ul><li> 10th February - Firefox <strike>Beta</strike> Aurora for Android <a href="https://quality.mozilla.org/2012/02/firefox-beta-for-android-test-day-friday-february-10th-2012/">Test Day</a>
| | ** 20th - 24th February: [http://lanyrd.com/2012/webqa-work-week/ WebQA Work Week] (Mozilla SF) |
| </li><li> 20th - 24th February: <a href="http://lanyrd.com/2012/webqa-work-week/">WebQA Work Week</a> (Mozilla SF)
| | ** 23rd February: [https://quality.mozilla.org/2012/02/webqa-live-test-day-thursday-february-23rd-2012/ WebQA 'Live' Test Day] (Mozilla SF) |
| </li><li> 23rd February: <a href="https://quality.mozilla.org/2012/02/webqa-live-test-day-thursday-february-23rd-2012/">WebQA 'Live' Test Day</a> (Mozilla SF)
| | ** 24 - 25 February: [http://www.seleniumcamp.com Selenium Camp] in Kiev, Ukraine. David Burns is keynoting |
| </li><li> 24 - 25 February: <a href="http://www.seleniumcamp.com">Selenium Camp</a> in Kiev, Ukraine. David Burns is keynoting
| | ** 23rd March: [http://www.ministryoftesting.com/training-events/testbash/ TestBash] (Cambridge, UK) |
| </li><li> 23rd March: <a href="http://www.ministryoftesting.com/training-events/testbash/">TestBash</a> (Cambridge, UK)
| | * PTOs |
| </li></ul>
| | ** |
| </li><li> PTOs
| | |
| <ul><li>
| | == QA Team Updates == |
| </li></ul>
| | |
| </li></ul>
| | === Desktop Firefox (Juan) === |
| <h2> QA Team Updates </h2>
| | * Fx.Next |
| <h3> Desktop Firefox (Juan) </h3>
| | ** Firefox 11.0b2 builds should be in QA by tomorrow, shipping Friday |
| <ul><li> Fx.Next
| | ** Firefox 13 Nightly successfully merged, tracking features/bugs for channel |
| <ul><li> Firefox 11.0b2 builds should be in QA by tomorrow, shipping Friday
| | ** Private Browsing memory regression discovered with our Mozmill Endurance tests ({{bug|724677}}) |
| </li><li> Firefox 13 Nightly successfully merged, tracking features/bugs for channel
| | * Firefox ESR (ashughes) |
| </li><li> Private Browsing memory regression discovered with our Mozmill Endurance tests (<span class="fck_mw_template">{{bug|724677}}</span>)
| | ** Firefox 10.0.1 ESR builds should be in QA by Thursday, shipping Friday |
| </li></ul>
| | * Crash Investigation |
| </li><li> Firefox ESR (ashughes)
| | ** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/2012-02-07#Stability_Report Stability Report for this week] |
| <ul><li> Firefox 10.0.1 ESR builds should be in QA by Thursday, shipping Friday
| | ** [https://etherpad.mozilla.org/Bug-90268 Regressions on trunk from Bug 90268] |
| </li></ul>
| | |
| </li><li> Crash Investigation
| | === Browser Technologies (Tony) === |
| <ul><li> <a href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/2012-02-07#Stability_Report">Stability Report for this week</a>
| | *Fennec (Kevin/Aaron) |
| </li><li> <a href="https://etherpad.mozilla.org/Bug-90268">Regressions on trunk from Bug 90268</a>
| | ** Beta builds compiled but wont be shipped; delay as we wait for GL Layers improvements and iron out more beta blockers (See [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Notes/08-Feb-2012#Major_Topics_for_This_Week Developer Topic Notes]) |
| </li></ul>
| | ** Testing [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Fennec/Milestones/10.0/Release/10.0.1 10.0.1 XUL] |
| </li></ul>
| | ** Stability (nhirata) |
| <h3> Browser Technologies (Tony) </h3>
| | *** See https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Mobile/Testing/02_08_12#Crash_Stats for graph |
| <ul><li>Fennec (Kevin/Aaron)
| | *** All Java crashes reported, new bugs with repro steps in |
| <ul><li> Beta builds compiled but wont be shipped; delay as we wait for GL Layers improvements and iron out more beta blockers (See <a href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Notes/08-Feb-2012#Major_Topics_for_This_Week">Developer Topic Notes</a>)
| | *** top crashes have been resolved this week and last week. |
| </li><li> Testing <a href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Fennec/Milestones/10.0/Release/10.0.1">10.0.1 XUL</a>
| | *** Need to get out that people should make sure to update to the latest builds |
| </li><li> Stability (nhirata)
| | *Sync (Tracy) |
| <ul><li> See https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Mobile/Testing/02_08_12#Crash_Stats for graph
| | ** |
| </li><li> All Java crashes reported, new bugs with repro steps in
| | *Test pilot (tracy) |
| </li><li> top crashes have been resolved this week and last week.
| | ** |
| </li><li> Need to get out that people should make sure to update to the latest builds
| | *Sync Server (jbonacci/jrgm) |
| </li></ul>
| | ** Testing as needed for weekly Change/Maintenance Windows |
| </li></ul>
| | *BrowserID (jbonacci/jrgm) |
| </li><li>Sync (Tracy)
| | ** Work continues on current train that supports Primaries and Localization of 41 languages |
| <ul><li>
| | ** Decision was made this morning to slow the releases from weekly to every two weeks |
| </li></ul>
| | *Pancake (nhirata) |
| </li><li>Test pilot (tracy)
| | ** Work week this week; QA in Mnt View as Fennec takes priority |
| <ul><li>
| | ** Pancake statement to be made this week |
| </li></ul>
| | ** most moving parts are to be joined together, graph of lattice (how a user ends up going from one page to the next) can be seen |
| </li><li>Sync Server (jbonacci/jrgm)
| | ** iOS app to be done either end of this week or next; beta of iOS app suppose to be done by end of quarter |
| <ul><li> Testing as needed for weekly Change/Maintenance Windows
| | *B2G (jhammink) |
| </li></ul>
| | ** |
| </li><li>BrowserID (jbonacci/jrgm)
| | * Apps Desktop/Mobile (jsmith) |
| <ul><li> Work continues on current train that supports Primaries and Localization of 41 languages
| | ** Completed initial mobile world congress testing across windows 7, Galaxy S2, Desire HD, Galaxy Tab |
| </li><li> Decision was made this morning to slow the releases from weekly to every two weeks
| | *** Results are [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiGNxoNUJbvzdG9LRU9uWnJNVElnQVVnMnVfd1hXNHc&hl=en_US#gid=0 here] |
| </li></ul>
| | ** Prepared test cases for final test run before Mobile World Congress |
| </li><li>Pancake (nhirata)
| | ** Next - Run test cases when final desktop extension and Soup builds are ready |
| <ul><li> Work week this week; QA in Mnt View as Fennec takes priority
| | |
| </li><li> Pancake statement to be made this week
| | === WebQA (Stephen) === |
| </li><li> most moving parts are to be joined together, graph of lattice (how a user ends up going from one page to the next) can be seen
| | * AMO |
| </li><li> iOS app to be done either end of this week or next; beta of iOS app suppose to be done by end of quarter
| | **Read Me is in the process of getting updated |
| </li></ul>
| | **Stupchiy is working on a vagrant/virtualbox of downloadable tests |
| </li><li>B2G (jhammink)
| | **We cleaned out our pull request queue to get mobile test infrastructure in place |
| <ul><li>Currently - rebuilding and rerunning against bug triage: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/B2G-Bug-Triage-1-31
| | * Engagement Projects |
| </li><li>Use-Cases available for MWC demo at: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/MWC-demo-Use-Cases
| | ** [http://careers.mozilla.org/en-US/ Mozilla careers] released |
| </li><li>Test plan in the works, exploratory testing against use-cases and UX design right now
| | * Input |
| </li><li>Automation
| | ** |
| </li><li>(basic) Marionette cases for Telephony currently working on Emulator; have 2 and 3 emulators working now; edge cases currently being developed against https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/telephony/nsIDOMTelephonyCall.idl
| | * Mozilla.com |
| </li><li>(basic) Marionette case for SMS currently working on Emulator; edge cases TBD
| | ** shipped 1.5 |
| </li></ul>Both telephony and sms marionette automationactually working on device
| | * MDN |
| </li><li> Apps Desktop/Mobile (jsmith)
| | ** working on planning for 2.2 shipping 02/14 and 2.3 |
| <ul><li> Completed initial mobile world congress testing across windows 7, Galaxy S2, Desire HD, Galaxy Tab
| | * Socorro |
| <ul><li> Results are <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiGNxoNUJbvzdG9LRU9uWnJNVElnQVVnMnVfd1hXNHc&hl=en_US#gid=0">here</a>
| | ** |
| </li></ul>
| | *SUMO |
| </li><li> Prepared test cases for final test run before Mobile World Congress
| | **[http://moxie.jamessocol.com/bugstats/sumo/2012-02-07 2/7] release went out |
| </li><li> Next - Run test cases when final desktop extension and Soup builds are ready
| | **[http://moxie.jamessocol.com/bugstats/sumo/2012-02-14 2/14] release in progress |
| </li></ul>
| | |
| </li></ul>
| | === Community (Marcia) === |
| <h3> WebQA (Stephen) </h3>
| | * [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/QA_Community/Meetings/2012-02-08 QA Community Meeting today] |
| <ul><li> AMO
| | ** Please add discussion items to the agenda |
| <ul><li>Read Me is in the process of getting updated
| | ** Community Meeting with David Boswell |
| </li><li>Stupchiy is working on a vagrant/virtualbox of downloadable tests
| | *** It was decided to roll his meeting into our bi-weekly Wednesday meeting, so David will attend the meeting at 4 PM today. |
| </li><li>We cleaned out our pull request queue to get mobile test infrastructure in place
| | * Upcoming Testdays/BugDays/Meetups |
| </li></ul>
| | ** Thursday February 2nd: SUMO Questions day, 253+ questions after Firefox 10 release, over 80% answered by contributors! |
| </li><li> Engagement Projects
| | ** Friday, February 10: [https://quality.mozilla.org/2012/02/firefox-beta-for-android-test-day-friday-february-10th-2012/ Firefox Beta for Android Testday] (aaronmt) |
| <ul><li> <a href="http://careers.mozilla.org/en-US/">Mozilla careers</a> released
| | ** Friday, February 17: Desktop and Android Web Apps Testday |
| </li></ul>
| | ** Thursday, February 23: [https://quality.mozilla.org/2012/02/webqa-live-test-day-thursday-february-23rd-2012/ WebQA Live Testday] (davehunt) |
| </li><li> Input
| | |
| <ul><li>
| | * Video Work |
| </li></ul>
| | ** Discuss replacing the video that is on the first run nightly page? |
| </li><li> Mozilla.com
| | |
| <ul><li> shipped 1.5
| | *QMO.next (Raymond): |
| </li></ul>
| | ** Working with Craig Cook to solve a couple of bugs and plan next release |
| </li><li> MDN
| | |
| <ul><li> working on planning for 2.2 shipping 02/14 and 2.3
| | * Documentation |
| </li></ul>
| | ** (ashughes) Posted a revision to the [https://quality.mozilla.org/docs/testdays/ testday documentation] in an effort to make things simpler and to put the power of success in the hands of organizers, less gatekeeper oriented |
| </li><li> Socorro
| | ** (ashughes) Published a mozmill-tests [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Desktop_Firefox/Automation#Commit_Policy commit policy], opening the door for community members to become committers |
| <ul><li>
| | |
| </li></ul>
| | === QA Automation Service (Henrik, David) === |
| </li><li>SUMO
| | ==== General ==== |
| <ul><li><a href="http://moxie.jamessocol.com/bugstats/sumo/2012-02-07">2/7</a> release went out
| | * Mozmill 1.5.9 with jsbridge fix for Python 2.7.2 has been released |
| </li><li><a href="http://moxie.jamessocol.com/bugstats/sumo/2012-02-14">2/14</a> release in progress
| | * Selenium 2.19 has been released |
| </li></ul>
| | |
| </li></ul>
| | ====Project updates==== |
| <h3> Community (Marcia) </h3>
| | ===== On-Demand Test Framework (Geo) ===== |
| <ul><li> <a href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/QA_Community/Meetings/2012-02-08">QA Community Meeting today</a>
| | * |
| <ul><li> Please add discussion items to the agenda
| | |
| </li><li> Community Meeting with David Boswell
| | ===== Mozmill 2.0 Automation Scripts Update (Henrik) ===== |
| <ul><li> It was decided to roll his meeting into our bi-weekly Wednesday meeting, so David will attend the meeting at 4 PM today.
| | * No update |
| </li></ul>
| | |
| </li></ul>
| | ===== CI system for daily and l10n Firefox Builds (Henrik) ===== |
| </li><li> Upcoming Testdays/BugDays/Meetups
| | * No update |
| <ul><li> Thursday February 2nd: SUMO Questions day, 253+ questions after Firefox 10 release, over 80% answered by contributors!
| | |
| </li><li> Friday, February 10: <a href="https://quality.mozilla.org/2012/02/firefox-beta-for-android-test-day-friday-february-10th-2012/">Firefox Beta for Android Testday</a> (aaronmt)
| | ===== Mozmill Dashboard Validation (DavidB) ===== |
| </li><li> Friday, February 17: Desktop and Android Web Apps Testday
| | * No update |
| </li><li> Thursday, February 23: <a href="https://quality.mozilla.org/2012/02/webqa-live-test-day-thursday-february-23rd-2012/">WebQA Live Testday</a> (davehunt)
| | |
| </li></ul>
| | ===== MemChaser extension ===== |
| </li></ul>
| | * Release of MemChaser v0.1.1 on AMO: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/memchaser/ (Already 420 downloads even without the targeted blog post) |
| <ul><li> Video Work
| | * Work on v0.2 has been started (circular buffer, improved logging) |
| <ul><li> Discuss replacing the video that is on the first run nightly page?
| | * Next task is to revamp the complete documentation around project activities to offer entry points for community members |
| </li></ul>
| | |
| </li></ul>
| | ===== Open Positions (DavidB) ===== |
| <ul><li>QMO.next (Raymond):
| | * Have got team adding labels to Github projects so we can now poll it. |
| <ul><li> Working with Craig Cook to solve a couple of bugs and plan next release
| | |
| </li></ul>
| | ===== Weekly Blog Posts ===== |
| </li></ul>
| | * Henrik: [http://www.hskupin.info/2012/02/06/fosdem-2012-add-on-sdk-and-slides-for-mozmill-ci/ FOSDEM 2012, Add-on SDK, and slides for Mozmill CI] |
| <ul><li> Documentation
| | * Henrik: [http://www.hskupin.info/2012/02/08/how-i-fixed-a-mozmill-freeze-by-bisecting-python/ How I fixed a Mozmill freeze by bisecting Python] |
| <ul><li> (ashughes) Posted a revision to the <a href="https://quality.mozilla.org/docs/testdays/">testday documentation</a> in an effort to make things simpler and to put the power of success in the hands of organizers, less gatekeeper oriented
| | |
| </li><li> (ashughes) Published a mozmill-tests <a href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Desktop_Firefox/Automation#Commit_Policy">commit policy</a>, opening the door for community members to become committers
| | ===== [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/TCM Case Conductor] ===== |
| </li></ul>
| | * |
| </li></ul>
| | |
| <h3> QA Automation Service (Henrik, David) </h3>
| | == Roundtable/Discussion Items == |
| <h4> General </h4>
| | * [https://metrics.mozilla.com/pentaho/content/pentaho-cdf-dd/Render?solution=metrics&path=bugzilla/solr/QA&file=QA.wcdf QA Bugzilla Dashboard] - Is it being used? Why or Why not? (jsmith) |
| <ul><li> Mozmill 1.5.9 with jsbridge fix for Python 2.7.2 has been released
| | |
| </li><li> Selenium 2.19 has been released
| | == Notes, Takeaways and Action Items == |
| </li></ul>
| | |
| <h4>Project updates</h4>
| | === Today === |
| <h5> On-Demand Test Framework (Geo) </h5>
| | * Add notes here |
| <ul><li>
| | ** |
| </li></ul>
| | === Last Meeting === |
| <h5> Mozmill 2.0 Automation Scripts Update (Henrik) </h5>
| | * Action Items |
| <ul><li> No update
| | ** |
| </li></ul>
| |
| <h5> CI system for daily and l10n Firefox Builds (Henrik) </h5>
| |
| <ul><li> No update
| |
| </li></ul>
| |
| <h5> Mozmill Dashboard Validation (DavidB) </h5>
| |
| <ul><li> No update
| |
| </li></ul>
| |
| <h5> MemChaser extension </h5>
| |
| <ul><li> Release of MemChaser v0.1.1 on AMO: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/memchaser/ (Already 420 downloads even without the targeted blog post)
| |
| </li><li> Work on v0.2 has been started (circular buffer, improved logging)
| |
| </li><li> Next task is to revamp the complete documentation around project activities to offer entry points for community members
| |
| </li></ul>
| |
| <h5> Open Positions (DavidB) </h5>
| |
| <ul><li> Have got team adding labels to Github projects so we can now poll it.
| |
| </li></ul>
| |
| <h5> Weekly Blog Posts </h5>
| |
| <ul><li> Henrik: <a href="http://www.hskupin.info/2012/02/06/fosdem-2012-add-on-sdk-and-slides-for-mozmill-ci/">FOSDEM 2012, Add-on SDK, and slides for Mozmill CI</a>
| |
| </li><li> Henrik: <a href="http://www.hskupin.info/2012/02/08/how-i-fixed-a-mozmill-freeze-by-bisecting-python/">How I fixed a Mozmill freeze by bisecting Python</a>
| |
| </li></ul>
| |
| <h5> <a href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/TCM">Case Conductor</a> </h5>
| |
| <ul><li>
| |
| </li></ul>
| |
| <h2> Roundtable/Discussion Items </h2>
| |
| <ul><li> <a href="https://metrics.mozilla.com/pentaho/content/pentaho-cdf-dd/Render?solution=metrics&path=bugzilla/solr/QA&file=QA.wcdf">QA Bugzilla Dashboard</a> - Is it being used? Why or Why not? (jsmith)
| |
| </li></ul>
| |
| <h2> Notes, Takeaways and Action Items </h2>
| |
| <h3> Today </h3>
| |
| <ul><li> Add notes here
| |
| <ul><li>
| |
| </li></ul>
| |
| </li></ul>
| |
| <h3> Last Meeting </h3>
| |
| <ul><li> Action Items
| |
| <ul><li>
| |
| </li></ul>
| |
| </li></ul>
| |