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=== Action Items === | === Action Items === | ||
==== Open ==== | ==== Open ==== | ||
* '''AI:davida''' | * '''AI:dmose''' mail release-drivers to start bit push | ||
* '''AI:group''' write down desired IMAP behavior on wiki page for next week | |||
* '''AI:emre''' send recently written IMAP docs to bienvenu for review | |||
* '''AI:clarkbw''' different list view? | |||
* '''AI:Standard8/clarkbw''': mac addrbook UI | |||
* '''AI:davida''' schedule postmortem for 3.0a1 | |||
* '''AI:davida''' guided form doesn't allow version unsetting | |||
* '''AI:davida''' bugzilla should _refuse_ unspecified version | |||
* '''AI:davida''' version field UI in bugzilla should be clarified | |||
* '''AI:davida''' should have "file bug" menu item in nightlies/alphas | |||
* '''AI:group''' read/edit [[Thunderbird:Road Map To XULRunner]] | |||
* '''AI:group''' read/edit [[MailNews:Address Book RoadMap]] | |||
==== Closed ==== | ==== Closed ==== | ||
* '''AI:davida''' review format of status meetings minutes | |||
** Format of minutes copied from build team meetings | |||
*** People move items during the week from Open to Closed section | |||
*** AI: syntax convention allows for searching across the wiki | |||
* '''AI:nth10sd''' | * '''AI:nth10sd''' | ||
* QA for Shredder a1 | * QA for Shredder a1 | ||
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* QA <strike>almost</strike> completed by nth10sd | * QA <strike>almost</strike> completed by nth10sd | ||
* Release mechanics: who owns? | * Release mechanics: who owns? | ||
* | ** rick | ||
*** after QA sez that bits looks good, release lead mails release-drivers that it's ok to push bits to mirrors (done manually, currently only by nick and john) | |||
* david to schedule postmortem | |||
** ASAP is best, before folks forget | |||
** but hard to schedule until the release itself actually happens | |||
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0a2]] === | === [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0a2]] === | ||
* Why? - Release goals TBD | * Why? - Release goals TBD | ||
* When | ** Possibilities | ||
*** Better offline experience? | |||
*** AI(group): write down desired behavior on wiki page for next week | |||
*** AI(emre): send recently written IMAP docs to bienvenu for review | |||
*** AI(clarkbw): different list view? | |||
*** AI(Standard8/clarkbw): mac addrbook UI | |||
* When | |||
** Planned code freeze: July 8, 23:59 Pacific | |||
* QA | * QA | ||
** Shredder a1 QA was done by nth10sd | ** Shredder a1 QA was done by nth10sd (~3 days); nth10sd not available for a2 | ||
** According to 6-8 week release schedule between alphas, he'll have finished his internship by then. | ** According to 6-8 week release schedule between alphas, he'll have finished his internship by then and will be on break. | ||
*** There should be a plan for QA in Shredder a2. (see also next testday) | *** There should be a plan for QA in Shredder a2. (see also next testday) | ||
=== General Planning === | === General Planning === | ||
* [[Thunderbird:Road Map To XULRunner]] | * Would to like, as a group, understand better: | ||
* [[MailNews:Address Book RoadMap]] | ** '''AI:group''': read/edit [[Thunderbird:Road Map To XULRunner]] | ||
** '''AI:group''': read/edit [[MailNews:Address Book RoadMap]] | |||
=== QA Updates === | === QA Updates === | ||
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Current bug break down and recent activity | Current bug break down and recent activity | ||
* triage rate still not up to pace with rate of bugs being reported: [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird/browse_thread/thread/0a67ceed4a416787# m.d.a.t] [http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=655541&highlight= forums] | * triage rate still not up to pace with rate of bugs being reported: [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird/browse_thread/thread/0a67ceed4a416787# m.d.a.t] [http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=655541&highlight= forums] | ||
* | * open/unconfirmed (product=Thunderbird): | ||
** <=1.0 89/49 55% | |||
** 1.5 350/207 59% | |||
** 2.0 615/297 48% | |||
** trunk 774/129 16% | |||
** unspec 3732/2575 69% | |||
*** this is the default setting | |||
*** | |||
* recent activity (product=Thunderbird) | * recent activity (product=Thunderbird) | ||
** [http://tinyurl.com/5knkhj 800 bugs closed in last 2 months] | ** [http://tinyurl.com/5knkhj 800 bugs closed in last 2 months] | ||
** [http://tinyurl.com/6c5j5p 520 bugs closed in previous 2 month period] | ** [http://tinyurl.com/6c5j5p 520 bugs closed in previous 2 month period] | ||
=== Roundtable === | === Roundtable === | ||
davida: | davida: | ||
* Start page for 3.0a1 is pointless, as 3.0a1 uses chrome URL for that. To fix when we do the Shredder branding. {{bug|430762}} | * Start page for 3.0a1 is pointless, as 3.0a1 uses chrome URL for that. To fix when we do the Shredder branding. {{bug|430762}} | ||
* blog entry on 2.0.0.14 SSL issue hasn't generated much response | |||
* davida to test editing 2.0.0.x start page | |||
* safe testing: what can we do? | |||
** bienvenu: existing bug on doing what Mail.app does | |||
*** default POP to leave-on-server & delete after 7 days | |||
** Standard8: mozbackup extension actively developed | |||
* worked on try server patch for other projects; under review | |||
Standard8: | Standard8: | ||
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clarkbw: | clarkbw: | ||
* worked on bugs | * worked on bugs | ||
** {{bug|431819}} recommending short term revert and alt tb vs. ff setting | ** {{bug|431819}} recommending short term revert and alt tb vs. ff setting | ||
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** Chatted more with Paolo Iacobazzi | ** Chatted more with Paolo Iacobazzi | ||
** Updated wiki page [[User:Clarkbw/Return Receipt]] to reflect comments and changes. Another small UI improvement that's possible. | ** Updated wiki page [[User:Clarkbw/Return Receipt]] to reflect comments and changes. Another small UI improvement that's possible. | ||
rick: | rick: | ||
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beckley: | beckley: | ||
* | * autoopening mailboxes | ||
* | * working with sid0 on desktop search integration | ||
* | * on vacation next week | ||
emre: | emre: | ||
* Didn't work on bugs last week. | * Didn't work on bugs last week. | ||
* Holding dummy protocol implementation | * Holding dummy protocol implementation work until extending the protocol mechanism becomes a priority. | ||
* Data storage and search mechanism diagrams will be up after this meeting. Combined, they provide good understand of the design in-place and about how to extend the search features in back-end. Couple ideas are: | * Data storage and search mechanism diagrams will be up after this meeting. Combined, they provide good understand of the design in-place and about how to extend the search features in back-end. Couple ideas are: | ||
** Develop an add-on to experiment sqlite based searching. | ** Develop an add-on to experiment sqlite based searching. | ||
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*** Pros: both the existent mechanism and the new one are functional at the same time for experiments | *** Pros: both the existent mechanism and the new one are functional at the same time for experiments | ||
*** Cons: most likely, the code is not reusable | *** Cons: most likely, the code is not reusable | ||
*** Cons: more coding, and add-on | *** Cons: more coding, and add-on mumbo-jumbo (I think this is a technical term) | ||
** Replace the existent search mechanism by; | ** Replace the existent search mechanism by; | ||
*** extending nsIMsgSearchAdapter interface | *** extending nsIMsgSearchAdapter interface | ||
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*** simply replacing the current implementation of nsMsgSearchOfflineMail class | *** simply replacing the current implementation of nsMsgSearchOfflineMail class | ||
**** simple and dirty. Relatively difficult to share with Bryan and others since it requires patching and compilation. | **** simple and dirty. Relatively difficult to share with Bryan and others since it requires patching and compilation. | ||
** another idea: CLucene, as used in Flock | |||
* Imap offline improvements: Dale hasn't got back to me yet | * Imap offline improvements: Dale hasn't got back to me yet | ||
* Hasn't talk to Bryan about my findings yet | * Hasn't talk to Bryan about my findings yet | ||
* Next week; | * Next week; | ||
** I want to work on bugs assigned to me that I couldn't find time to work on last week. | ** I want to work on bugs assigned to me that I couldn't find time to work on last week. | ||
** I plan to | ** I plan to develop an experimental Sqlite based search mechanism - if we decide to go on this direction. | ||
asuth: | asuth: | ||
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* Lots of work on deleting-lots-of-messages {{bug|296453}}. I think I have addressed all of the fundamental issues, although there's the question of... | * Lots of work on deleting-lots-of-messages {{bug|296453}}. I think I have addressed all of the fundamental issues, although there's the question of... | ||
** Should we have a folder-events-only event stream that people can listen for, so they don't have to receive all the message events and just filter them out? | ** Should we have a folder-events-only event stream that people can listen for, so they don't have to receive all the message events and just filter them out? | ||
*** bienvenu: could add bit flags to allow for this | |||
** Created page on threading and the preferences that affect it in the process: [[MailNews:Message_Threading]]. | ** Created page on threading and the preferences that affect it in the process: [[MailNews:Message_Threading]]. | ||
** (Still need to log a related bug or two and try and get some unit testing for the topological sort logic.) | ** (Still need to log a related bug or two and try and get some unit testing for the topological sort logic.) | ||
* Touched base with clarkbw on search. | * Touched base with clarkbw on search. | ||
wsmwk: | wsmwk: | ||
* Working with standard8 on palmsync+trunk | * Working with standard8 on palmsync+trunk | ||
* [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/thunderbird/TB20014/index.html TB 2.0.0.14 missing from talkback] - filed [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433234 bug 433234] | * [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/thunderbird/TB20014/index.html TB 2.0.0.14 missing from talkback] - filed [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433234 bug 433234] | ||
=== Attendees === | === Attendees === | ||
asuth, beckley, bienvenu, clarkbw, davida, dmose, emre, nth10sd, Standard8, wsmwk | |||
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