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 = Aesthetic =
+Great new designs for 3.7/4 on Windows but what will Firefox look like on OSX?
+:[[https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Projects/3.7_and_4.0_Theme_and_UI_Revamp/Mac_Specific_Visual_Refresh Mac Specific Design for 3.7, 4.0]]--&mdash; [[User:Spacr|Edson Ayllon]] <sup>[[http://twitter.com/EdsonAyllon twitter]]</sup> 01:49, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 == Back/Forward Button ==
 Having the back button on top of the forward button adds another level of depth.
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 :I don't mind the button touching the border, and in fact I think it is a nice potential option. It may be better as a theme, I personally would like a streamlined theme that puts buttons around the edges. More computers these days have widescreen displays, and most webpages are designed vertically and do not extend far horizontally, so a theme that works around the screen edges could be helpful for some users. I do not know of any themes that place buttons around the outside edges.
 --[[User:Leonresevil2|Leonresevil2]]  9 September 2009
 = Interface =
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 The reason why I'm not currently using any glass add-on in FF is because most of them include transparent tabs. It's completely unusable. Take a look at IE8 tabs are not transparent and the should not be.
 --[[User:Frippi|Frippi]] 09:47, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
+Back to the new tab button...  How about when you click that button, a new tab is added and all the tabs compress but the button stays in that spot until you move the mouse away..  Then the tabs uncompress, fill up the tab bar again, and the new tab button moves back to the right of the last tab
+--[[User:Freshness|Freshness]] - December 12
 === Tab Animations  ===
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 [[User:Nikic|Nikic]] 12:26, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
+Just a clear indication that page has been loaded might me enough. Usually it doesn't matter how many percents has been loaded.
+[[User:Frippi|Frippi]] 09:57, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
+-So the green light attracts attention.. all lights attract attention, it doesn't mean that you have to look at it.  If it's not an important thing, why worry about it?
+-Why you would want to fill a tab with a solid color is beyond my reasoning.  That would be a horrendous mistake and it would look like a complete disaster.
+-Nikic, YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE USING THE INTERNET.  You wouldn't know if the websites someone goes to takes as long as the sites you go to. Plus, some people have slow internet so take that into consideration before talking about how status bars everywhere are inaccurate and unuseful.
+I completely agree with iZver. The loading bar in the tab looks clean and is a clear indication of loading
+[[User:Freshness|Freshness]], 12 December 2009
 === Address Bar Inside the Tabs  ===
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 Look this: address bar inside the tabs. The address bar should be inside the tab. While typing the tab will expand. After type, the tab restore to a default size. The address bar get space in the screen and it is not so necessary after accessing the site
 https://wiki.mozilla.org/File:FF4_larini.jpg
+=== Multiple Separate Rows ===
+I often have online radio open in a tab and multiple tabs for separate documentation I'm using. I'm currently using a row add-on, but this has always felt like it would be best suited as a main feature. Basically multiple separate rows of tabs maybe with the ability to specify groups of tabs to cover multiple rows. This would be more of a power user feature to organize multiple sets of tabs without opening multiple windows of Firefox. --[[User:Sirisian|Sirisian]] 21:32, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 == Buttons ==
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 :Lets not forget that Windows Explorer also uses the back and forward buttons with a drop down. Unless we design Firefox in the same way (just like in Fx 3.5), the user will be very confused. --[[User:Mephiles|Mephiles]] 08:50, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 I just hope that all missing button/bar can be recovered using the customised... function. I hope to see new drafts about Firefox 3.7 soon. -----Jason twilight 12.53, 19th August 2009 (UTC)
+=== Vista/7 mockups, Page/Tools buttons: why NOT this way ===
+*) You should use icons (like Chrome) instead of text because of localization issues (ex. in Italian language "Tools" is "Strumenti", that's just too long).
+*) That darker grey color is ugly, use the same color as for the other buttons.
+--[[User:Ekerazha|Ekerazha]] 00:09, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
+: Agreed, to add to that: The page and tools buttons are too intrusive for functions that are used sparsely. Please make these buttons unobtrusive.
 == Keep Bookmarks Menu  ==
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 I really hope that me saying this isn't needed, but, combining the search bar and the address bar is a horrible idea. I have several custom search options in the search bar that I use regularly. If it was combined into the address bar, I'd be forced to search with one specific engine every time. This would be a huge inconvenience to myself, and I'm assuming many other people that also value making their time more efficient.
 As to combining the go, refresh, and stop button, that's unnecessary as well. The go button should be removed, but stop and refresh should stay where they are. Personally, I use hot keys, and never click the buttons, so I take them off already, but sometimes I reload a page in the middle of it loading because my internet hung and the page didn't load properly, or is timing out. A quick mid-load refresh remedies that, and wouldn't be possible if it showed a stop button since it would still be loading. It's just an extra step if I had to stop it, and then reload. It may sound minuscule, but if you have to do that several thousand times, that adds up pretty fast.
+:The very same drop-down style search provider selection may be implemented in address bar. That would conserve space and provide same rich functionality.
+:[[User:Frippi|Frippi]] 10:00, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 == Noooo, not the status bar!  ==
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 [[User:Nikic|Nikic]] 15:07, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
+I hope that (at LEAST) Mozilla comes up with an "addon" that puts the menu bar in firefox.  I think that the options available with Chrome (their "page & wrench" click-able icons) gives you a lot of "flair" to choose from, but "substance" is lacking.  The "view" is somewhat covered in the integration, but the "edit"?...poor!  I want the option for a menu bar anyways!  I still don't see why Firefox has to become "Firechrome" (if I wanted that, I'd just go with Google).
 == Bookmarks ==
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 This design is just plain worse. Look at the way that an extra "layer" is added behind the tabs and bookmarks. Is it necessary? No. Does it make Firefox look more complicated? Yes. Honestly, Mozilla, get some people who know what they're DOING. This looks like it was designed in five minutes by a bored programmer.
 [[User:(=Nemesis=)|(=Nemesis=)]] 23:32, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
+:Absolutely agree that "additional level of transparency" is of no use at all, just makes UI look more complex. [[User:Frippi|Frippi]] 10:05, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
+Honestly, I think it looks more integrated this way.  I can't understand why you people think adding this makes it seem too complex (maybe you're all monkeys?).  But of course, the really angry people tend to leave the most comments..
+[[User:Freshness|Freshness]]
+:Prove me I'm wrong, but I don;t remember a single win7 application with such appearance. It's either glass or not.
 == Keep focusing on OS Integration  ==
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 :Please don't ask me to "chill" when you've been so steadfast in your assumptions that you've compared disagreement to trying to convince me that "2+2=4". If you had been polite during the discussion rather than heavily implying that anyone who disagrees with you is an idiot (I refer you to your "2+2" comment), you could expect the same courtesy in return. With regard to contributing, you haven't actually suggested what specifically should be changed. Why should the small gap between tabs be changed? Or why should the icon on the refresh button be altered? You haven't said what you want changed, and why. I'm not some kind of Firefox 'fanboy' - if I deem something to be worthy of criticism, I'm more than happy to say what I disagree with. --[[User:Pintsized|Pintsized]] 13:08, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 :I'd say that the mockups remind me of a cross between Chrome, Opera 10, Firefox 3.5, and Chrome. Oh, and Chrome too. Seriously. It may be copying Chrome a lot, but at least it isn't copying as much as Safari. Safari has the same exact icons for the two main menu buttons. Opera is behind the times on interface design, and Firefox is lagging behind a bit. These changes will help bring Firefox's interface back up-to-date. Once Firefox also abolishes the menu bar, the only other major browser that still has it, at least by default, will be Opera. I like these proposed changes, and I think they look nothing like Opera 10. They share some buttons in common - no duh, they're gonna have refresh, stop, back, and forward buttons - but the icons are completely different. If anything, Firefox 3.5's interface looks more like Opera 10 than 3.7's mockups do. Seriously, look at it! Am I right? See, that's because browsers need address bars, tabs, and some other interface elements. Those are the ''only'' things I saw in common between Firefox 3.7 and Opera 10. [[User:NuckChorris|NuckChorris]] 04:26, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 stay in Firefox 4. --User: Jason twilight 03.20, 16th August 2009 (UTC)
+NuckChorris, SAFARI CAME BEFORE CHROME.  Chrome copied from IE & safari. Firefox is copying off of chrome, not so much opera.  If there were any resemblance between the two, it would have to be that the icons are somewhat similar, but the default coloring is more appealing than that of opera's and firefox's "opera-copied" icons are simpler and more spaced apart too.
+To whoever said that firefox is not copying off chrome, you're trying to prove to us something that is a complete lie. If you actually had both these browsers, you'd notice.
+Look: http://i47.tinypic.com/1rt2r8.gif
+Though the similarities in this version are few, they are a big positioning impact and Mozilla could not have "accidentally" done this. You can see more of the resemblance in firefox 4 mockups though.
+Editeditedit... I marked the parts of the address bar wrong. nevermind that one
+ ~[[User:Freshness|Freshness]]
 == Simplify paramterised URLs ==