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* See two problems: | * See two problems: | ||
** Need to support getting data out of the toolbar | ** Need to support getting data out of the toolbar | ||
** Need to tell them the toolbar is | ** Need to tell them the toolbar is unsupported and future Firefox support is not coming | ||
* We have options: | |||
# Get Google to issue one last update that uninstalls the toolbar and migrates data | |||
#* What about 3.6 people? They are using a supported browser with a supported toolbar | |||
#** Seems strange / wrong to take it away from them | |||
#* What about functionality that can't be migrated without installing add-ons? | |||
#** We'll focus on bookmarks and message the rest | |||
#* What if Google doesn't want to do it? | |||
#** We could also develop it ourselves and give it to Google | |||
# Change Firefox 3.6.20 so that it ignores incompatibility of Google Toolbar on update | |||
#* This would help the update rejection concern | |||
#** Not for Firefox 4 though, as we don't intend to do a 4.0.2 (and can't even as we are shutting down automation for it) | |||
#* The toolbar would be incompatible after upgrade | |||
#** We could put something in product (the '''updated''' product, Firefox 6+) to message / migrate at that point | |||
# Get Google to redirect their updateURL / update service to AMO | |||
#* This would give us the greatest control over marking it as compatible / incompatible for certain versions | |||
#* The compatibility override would also apply to Firefox 4, so those users would see the benefits | |||
#* Not sure if Google is willing to do this, we'll ask | |||
#* Not sure if they do anything different w.r.t signing, update format, etc | |||
#** We could put something in product (the '''updated''' product, Firefox 6+) to message / migrate at that point | |||
#*** Rob Strong suggested a multi-XPI for one-click installation of add-ons to restore functionality | |||
Revision as of 18:35, 25 July 2011
Meeting Details
- Thursday July 21st, 4:00pm Pacific
- 650-903-0800 x92 Conf# 8605 (US/INTL)
- 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)
- join irc.mozilla.org #planning for back channel
- Warp Core conf room in MV
Background
- Google announced the Google Toolbar for Firefox is EOL
- The EOL doesn't seem to have been messaged too widely, looks to have only been announced on the Google Toolbar support blog
- There are still places where Google is offering the toolbar for download
- The current toolbar doesn't support Firefox 5+
- The current toolbar isn't hosted on AMO so it isn't getting automatically bumped
- Google Toolbar incompatibility is a top support issue
- One major issue is that people saved bookmarks with the toolbar. They should be available on www.google.com/bookmarks, but people may not be aware of this?!
- We know that a large amount of users are not taking update offers to 5+ due to Google Toolbar incompatibility
- Many users likely expect a new version of Google toolbar to be released and marked compatible
Firefox 3.6.20 (code freeze is 2011-08-01) would be the earliest vehicle we can use to change the product and will allow us to push product changes before users get update offers to 5+.
This meeting is to discuss possible in-product options for messaging that Google Toolbar is EOL and/or removing it from the critical update path.
Notes
- See two problems:
- Need to support getting data out of the toolbar
- Need to tell them the toolbar is unsupported and future Firefox support is not coming
- We have options:
- Get Google to issue one last update that uninstalls the toolbar and migrates data
- What about 3.6 people? They are using a supported browser with a supported toolbar
- Seems strange / wrong to take it away from them
- What about functionality that can't be migrated without installing add-ons?
- We'll focus on bookmarks and message the rest
- What if Google doesn't want to do it?
- We could also develop it ourselves and give it to Google
- What about 3.6 people? They are using a supported browser with a supported toolbar
- Change Firefox 3.6.20 so that it ignores incompatibility of Google Toolbar on update
- This would help the update rejection concern
- Not for Firefox 4 though, as we don't intend to do a 4.0.2 (and can't even as we are shutting down automation for it)
- The toolbar would be incompatible after upgrade
- We could put something in product (the updated product, Firefox 6+) to message / migrate at that point
- This would help the update rejection concern
- Get Google to redirect their updateURL / update service to AMO
- This would give us the greatest control over marking it as compatible / incompatible for certain versions
- The compatibility override would also apply to Firefox 4, so those users would see the benefits
- Not sure if Google is willing to do this, we'll ask
- Not sure if they do anything different w.r.t signing, update format, etc
- We could put something in product (the updated product, Firefox 6+) to message / migrate at that point
- Rob Strong suggested a multi-XPI for one-click installation of add-ons to restore functionality
- We could put something in product (the updated product, Firefox 6+) to message / migrate at that point