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== Agenda ==
== Agenda ==
* Who's taking minutes? -> '''TBA'''
* Who's taking minutes? -> '''Ratty'''
* Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank?
* Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank?
** Please note ''A person or entity can't be nominated twice in a row''.
** Please note ''A person or entity can't be nominated twice in a row''.
** '''therube''' for sterling work supporting users in the Mozillazine support forums.
** '''rsx11m''' for his patches to make View Zoom work better.


=== Action Items ===
=== Action Items ===
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'''OPEN'''
'''OPEN'''
* More people need to help out with taking of the meeting notes. '''Ratty''' to send an email to SeaMonkey-members list summarizing what needs doing and asking for people to share duties.
* More people need to help out with taking of the meeting notes. '''Ratty''' to send an email to SeaMonkey-members list summarizing what needs doing and asking for people to share duties. ''Still TODO, somehow this fell between the cracks''.
* We should find a better way of getting nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank.
* We should find a better way of getting nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank.
** We could put out a call for nominations the week before then, at the time of the meeting notice going out we could include any nominations (We need to come up with a quick FAQ as to what merits a nomination). '''IanN''' has put out an email to the members list but not had any responses yet, perhaps should post to newsgroups? He will try and compile the FAQ from any responses.
** We could put out a call for nominations the week before then, at the time of the meeting notice going out we could include any nominations (We need to come up with a quick FAQ as to what merits a nomination). '''IanN''' has put out an email to the members list. InvisibleSmiley came up with some sensible suggestions.
** We need to advertise such a thing happens even if it is only in the meeting notice.


'''CLOSED'''
'''CLOSED'''
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=== Release Train ===
=== Release Train ===
* SeaMonkey will directly go to the permanent repositories, i.e. -aurora, -beta in addition to -central. Miramar is a Thunderbird-only release branch (as is comm-2.0 for SeaMonkey).
* For comm-aurora, we also should regard strings there as much frozen as possible. In the future, string freeze is the uplift from central to aurora, which matches Firefox.
* For comm-aurora, we also should regard strings there as much frozen as possible. In the future, string freeze is the uplift from central to aurora, which matches Firefox.
* If we have any actual fixes that don't need L10n changes (not enhancements) on central but not beta, they should go there if possible.
* If we have any actual fixes that don't need L10n changes (not enhancements) on central but not beta, they should go there if possible.
* SeaMonkey comm-aurora and comm-beta are buildable and tinderbox has run tests against them.
* Bug authors and/or reviewers should request relevant approvals for comm-aurora/beta when necessary.
* Callek is working on getting comm-aurora and comm-beta on MXR ({{bug|653424}}).
* Callek is working on getting comm-aurora and comm-beta on MXR ({{bug|653424}}).
* The correct version numbers are now on the release train.
* First beta of 2.3 is due out shortly and then we'll have about 3 weeks to release. Target release date is 16th August.
* First beta of 2.3 is due out shortly and then we'll have about 3 weeks to release. Target release date is 16th August.
* Bug authors have been doing a fairly good job of requesting relevant approvals for the comm-aurora/beta.


=== Extensions Compatibility Tracking ===
=== Extensions Compatibility Tracking ===
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** ''The FAQ should be version-agnostic and have version updates mentioned in it so Jens or whoever won't need to keep changing the version numbers.''
** ''The FAQ should be version-agnostic and have version updates mentioned in it so Jens or whoever won't need to keep changing the version numbers.''
* KaiRo created a [[SeaMonkey/Features|SeaMonkey Features]] page and sub-pages for all those that are in development.
* KaiRo created a [[SeaMonkey/Features|SeaMonkey Features]] page and sub-pages for all those that are in development.
* The whole FAQ/AddonCompat information needs to be re-thought with versions in mind but InvisibleSmiley lacks the time to do it. It's a wiki so we can try to offload it. Ratty suggests involving imput from seamonkey-members and/or mozilla.support.seamonkey.


=== SeaMonkey 2.2 ===
=== SeaMonkey 2.2 ===
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** 2.1->2.2 is a minor update and should be online as automatic already.
** 2.1->2.2 is a minor update and should be online as automatic already.
** 2.0->2.2 is a major update (MU) and is online now, too.
** 2.0->2.2 is a major update (MU) and is online now, too.
* 2.2 had ~32900 ADU yesterday, 106540 downloads so far.
* 2.2 had ~43300 ADU yesterday, 112457 downloads so far.
** vs. 63682 on 2.0 (and 4437 on 2.1) so about 20k have migrated from 2.0 to 2.2 in the last week.
* The release notes should also mention (or provide a link to) any fixed security issues in order to support our mantra that you need to install updates to stay secure.
* The release notes should also mention (or provide a link to) any fixed security issues in order to support our mantra that you need to install updates to stay secure.
==== Follow-ups and Issues ====
* Lost Bookmarks {{Bug|673474}} and Cookies {{Bug|673672}} on auto-update from 2.0.14 to 2.2.
** Bookmarks can be re-imported from bookmarks.html.
* A XUL Core bug causing symptoms like:
** {{Bug|671192}} Command "Paste without Formatting" in message window is missing.
** {{Bug|672258}} Wrong context menu can be shown if two different windowtypes have the same contextmenu id and xul cache is enabled.
** IanN is testing out a workaround suggested by Neil for the context menu issue, the core bug is still there though, but only we seem to be exposing it at the moment.
* Regression in Addressbook ({{Bug|671251}} Cannot drag & drop contacts to another address book) [fixed].
* Regressions in the Mail Advanced Search Window ({{Bug|671605}} Search window does not allow to open second message from result list) [fixed].
* Users are unhappy about various UX and usability issues with the new Data Manager.
** Ratty proposes that until all the major pain points are addressed, links to the old individual managers be established (probably from the various Data Manager panes).
* [InvisibleSmiley] We need to try harder to fix regressions ASAP. I feel there is still too much delay. IMO regressions from the last stable version need to be addressed with top priority, especially in light of the rapid release train.


=== SeaMonkey 2.3 ===
=== SeaMonkey 2.3 ===
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[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?&field0-0-0=cf_tracking_seamonkey23&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=%3F tracking requests] (3)
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?&field0-0-0=cf_tracking_seamonkey23&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=%3F tracking requests] (3)
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&target_milestone=seamonkey2.3 targeted] (1)
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&target_milestone=seamonkey2.3 targeted] (1)
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=FIXED&target_milestone=seamonkey2.3 fixed] (13)<br>
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=FIXED&target_milestone=seamonkey2.3 fixed] (14)<br>
 
* SeaMonkey 2.3 Beta 1 will probably be released tomorrow Wednesday 27th July.
* The release date for 2.3 final is still about 16th August.
 
Several breakages (AB, opening MailNews search results) have only been fixed after 2.3b1 was tagged. Should we respin?
* [Kairo] I'm against a respin, that's what a b2 is for and we'll need one anyhow.
* [IanN] My preference is that the b1 release notice, mentions the known issues.


Further 2.x scheduling
Further 2.x scheduling
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[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/chart.cgi?category=-All-&subcategory=-All-&name=1183&label0=SM-with-review%3F-requests&line0=1928&label1=SM-with-superreview%3F-requests&line1=1929&gt=1&labelgt=Grand+Total&datefrom=2009-07-15&dateto=&action-wrap=Chart+This+List Open reviews/flags]:
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/chart.cgi?category=-All-&subcategory=-All-&name=1183&label0=SM-with-review%3F-requests&line0=1928&label1=SM-with-superreview%3F-requests&line1=1929&gt=1&labelgt=Grand+Total&datefrom=2009-07-15&dateto=&action-wrap=Chart+This+List Open reviews/flags]:
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&namedcmd=SeaMonkey%20%282%29%20/%20-All-%20/%20SM-with-review%3F-requests&series_id=1928&remaction=runseries 36 review]
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&namedcmd=SeaMonkey%20%282%29%20/%20-All-%20/%20SM-with-review%3F-requests&series_id=1928&remaction=runseries 34 review]
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&namedcmd=SeaMonkey%20%282%29%20/%20-All-%20/%20SM-with-superreview%3F-requests&series_id=1929&remaction=runseries 12 super-review]
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&namedcmd=SeaMonkey%20%282%29%20/%20-All-%20/%20SM-with-superreview%3F-requests&series_id=1929&remaction=runseries 12 super-review]
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=SeaMonkey&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=ui-review%3F 0 ui-review]
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=SeaMonkey&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=ui-review%3F 0 ui-review]
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* {{Bug|87098}} [SeaMonkey] Delete key should delete location bar history list entry.
* {{Bug|87098}} [SeaMonkey] Delete key should delete location bar history list entry.
** Note: Our location bar history doesn't and can't use autocomplete at all.
** Note: Our location bar history doesn't and can't use autocomplete at all.
* {{Bug|515734}} Individual SeaMonkey components are not properly handled by the Windows 7 taskbar.
* {{Bug|654009}} Reply to list: automatically determine From: address
** Note: The actual task here is to port {{Bug|45715}} "Reply to List" [button/(context) menu item]


=== Roundtable - Personal Status Updates  ===
=== Roundtable - Personal Status Updates  ===
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==== asrail  ====
==== asrail  ====
==== Callek  ====
==== Callek  ====
Released:
* '''SeaMonkey 2.3 Beta 1'''.
Fixed:
* {{Bug|647107}} snippet details URL is not secure, can spoof major updates.
* {{Bug|660745}} [SeaMonkey] Install "June 2010 or newer" DirectX SDK.
* {{Bug|668724}} {{Bug|654152}} broke the ability of all-locales to be read without specifying an path on web.
* {{Bug|668744}} Update from 2.0 leaves behind some files in some locales.
* {{Bug|672100}} [lightning] comm-miramar nightly builds should be labeled 1.0b5 or 1.0b5pre instead of 1.0b4pre
* {{Bug|672441}} Perform checkdisk and check results from cn-sea-qm-win2k3-01.nl.mozilla.org VM.
* {{Bug|672640}} [lt] SeaMonkey 2.0 ? 2.2 Major upgrade billboard l10n (Patch by Rimas Kudelis).
* {{Bug|673559}} Make comm-central support the June 2010 DirectX SDK
Working on:
* {{Bug|653424}} need to add comm-2.0 and releases/comm-{aurora,beta} to MXR.
ToDo:
* {{Bug|668461}} Port faster priority sorting from {{Bug|649734}} to SeaMonkey.
==== ewong  ====
==== ewong  ====
*'''Fixed''':
** {{bug|512378}} - Port |Bug 506985 - remove java-specific preferences from Firefox UI, hidden prefs| to SeaMonkey 2.1
** {{bug|513895}} - Audit preference panes for duplicate stylesheets
** {{bug|537153}} - message-id context lacks accesskeys
** {{bug|599731}} - Move "Recently Closed" menus to Go menu
** {{bug|621042}} - Advanced Account Settings should mention account name
** {{bug|633935}} - Port |Bug 237376 - Put 'reply to newsgroup' on top| to SeaMonkey
** {{bug|635179}} - Expose browser.zoom.siteSpecific to preferences GUI
** {{bug|668723}} - Update removed-files.in for bug 643816
** {{bug|670652}} - Audit preference stylesheets for duplicate stylesheets.
** {{bug|672101}} - Add browser.zoom.siteSpecific pref to help.
*'''Checkin-needed''':
*'''Needs Review''':
** {{bug|670561}} - show profile path in profile manager.
*'''Working On''':
** {{bug|78357}}  - Account wizard doesn't have place to enter port info
** {{bug|102275}} - Number untitled pages.
** {{bug|670513}} - Recently Closed Windows/tabs have been moved to the Go menu.  Document this.
*'''To Do''':
** {{bug|633937}} - Port {{bug|562048}} to suite.
*'''Investigating''':
** {{bug|13818}}  - Ability to change the "quoteline"
** {{bug|16717}}  - Disable source folder in Move/Copy/File menus
** {{bug|39113}}  - Show current profile name in preferences (backed out)
** {{bug|513900}} - executable permissions for data files (port bug 461322 to SeaMonkey)
** {{bug|527173}} - Spellchecker settings are in the Mail section but the SP is used by all components
** {{bug|620324}} - Selected multiple mail folders to move, but only one folder gets moved
*'''BackBurner''':
** {{bug|649952}} -  Port |Bug 609824 - Re-add Bloglines to the feed reader options| to SeaMonkey
==== IanN  ====
==== IanN  ====
* Usual testing, reviewing and commenting.
* Usual testing, reviewing and commenting.
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==== KaiRo ====
==== KaiRo ====
==== mcsmurf ====
* After quite some discussions, did a patch for support of bare IPv6 addresses in Data Manager ({{bug|665826}}) with some additions that also fixes potentially different but similar problems (like {{bug|635783}}). I hope this can even still land for SeaMonkey 2.3 in the current beta cycle.
* I also worked on website storage support ({{bug|588415}}), but I didn't get around yet to finish a good test for that, so people still need to wait for an official patch and add-on update.
* Discussed and somewhat-reviewed rsx11m's great work on more flexible page zoom levels ({{bug|621823}}). Nice to see other people now fixing those corners where I had to take shortcuts in heavy-lifting porting work I did for SeaMonkey.
* [http://home.kairo.at/blog/2011-07/representing_mozilla_as_sponsor_of_sotm Represented Mozilla at the SotM-EU conference]
*As usual, [http://home.kairo.at/blog/ my blog] has more detailed status about my activities, and [http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/weekly-updates.fcgi/user/KaiRo/posts Mozilla Status Board Posts] also tell about my next planned steps - both including my non-SeaMonkey Mozilla work as well.
 
==== mcsmurf ====
==== Misak ====
==== Misak ====
Fixed couple of bugs on trunk, keeping it in sync with FF:
* {{Bug|671517}} Port relevant bits of {{Bug|588506}} [nsSessionStartup is keeping restored session in memory]
* {{Bug|671520}} Port {{Bug|668646}} [Invalid cookie hosts causes sessionstore to stop updating].
* {{Bug|672178}} Port {{Bug|670040}} [Make nsISessionStartup.state a jsval to save repeatedly stringifying/parsing the initial state].
* {{Bug|673902}} Port [{{Bug|669196}} Session Restore losing nearly all tabs] to SeaMonkey.
Supporting Seamonkey russian user community.
==== Mnyromyr ====
==== Mnyromyr ====
Fixed {{Bug|671605}} Search window does not allow to open second message from result list.
==== MReimer ====
==== MReimer ====
==== Neil ====
==== Neil ====
Fixed:
* {{Bug|541313}} Changing image size using Custom Size changes the image but does not display the new height and width correctly -- H and W always equal the Actual Size.
* {{Bug|671441}} Detect whether the crtdll.obj hack is necessary (Core).
* {{Bug|673717}} Live bookmarks don't update automatically.
Working on:
* {{Bug|611503}} Constructing an nsTDependentString from an nsTAString makes no sense (Core).
* {{Bug|667962}} jemalloc in 2010 doesn't work on gmake (Core).
* {{Bug|673197}} Enable jemalloc on VC8/9 express (Core).
==== Ratty ====
==== Ratty ====
Fixed:
* {{Bug|666246}} Accidentally dragging a single tab moves it to the right edge of the tab bar.
* {{Bug|673877}} Increase performance of Win7 JumpList favorites queries.
Waiting for review.
* {{Bug|663343}} The "List all Tabs" menu should visually identify which tabs are on-screen (rather than scrolled off).
Stalled:
* {{Bug|667201}} Front end changes for {{Bug|545070}}: plugin-problem UI shouldn't say "click here".
Other:
* Bug triage and Bug discussions.
* End user support and PR in newsgroups and [http://forums.mozillazine.org/ Mozillazine].
==== Ricardo ====
==== Ricardo ====
Fixed {{Bug|670337}} Translate update page for SeaMonkey 2.0.x -> 2.2.
==== sgautherie ====
==== sgautherie ====
==== stefanh ====
==== stefanh ====
Fixed:
* {{Bug|670532}} [Mac] When a download starts, default to open download manager (like other OS).
Working on:
* {{Bug|553992}} No focus rings for buttons in download manager, places window and the update dialog (Toolkit).
* {{Bug|650642}} [Pinstripe] Make the filterdialog and the advanced search dialogs look better (Thunderbird).


=== Any other business?  ===
=== Any other business?  ===
'''[Ratty] How are we going to deal with e10s? I see stuff starting to land in mozilla/browser/ (preffed off).'''
* [InvisibleSmiley] given that Neil doesn't like ifdefs we'd probably have to hold off until something lands for good (preffed on).
* [Ratty] Do we have a plan going forward. Or are we just going to wing it on a prayer?
* [IanN] I think it would have to be discussed with TB crowd.
* In theory, any UI/widget changes will impact both us and TB but only if that UI needs to communicate with a website that sits in a content process. On the browser side, that's a lot, on the mailnews side, not so much.
* [IanN] Well I'm hoping Neil will have a good grasp of it (or at least better than me).
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