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[[Kubla]] » Meeting Notepad | [[Kubla]] » Meeting Notepad | ||
== Oct 23, 2007 == | |||
* Attendees: morgamic, clouserw, oremj | |||
* [[User:Clouserw|Clouserw]] felt the project was moving in a direction that was going to be good for a small subset of people, but not for the majority, and so put the brakes on the launch. Specifically, using the database to store nodes, aside from being a pain (check out the bugs), it also means: | |||
** Code is not available to the public | |||
** We can't use the huge amount of tools out there (find, grep, etc.) | |||
** Creating many files/directories at the same time is a pain (we make about 150 new files for every firefox release) | |||
** The code is less mobile (I can't check out a copy somewhere and just start working) | |||
** We lose the simple directory structure the current code has (drupal doesn't have a concept of directories other than URL aliases) | |||
** We lose the SVN training that Pascal has been going through with localizers | |||
** We have to modify core drupal code (bug 397540, maybe others) | |||
** Drupal is hella slow (and I don't like saying hella!) | |||
** Drupal opens up new security problems (I got six new security announcements on the drupal mailing list last week) | |||
So, the plan: | |||
* Current mozilla.com | |||
** Essentially remains unchanged (continues to be the production tag in SVN) | |||
** /press/ pages will be handled inside of drupal, we'll need a way to integrate the two | |||
* Current Kubla: | |||
** Write an interface to view a file system (check for something that exists) | |||
** Write an interface to edit flat files | |||
** Write any svn interface stuff we need - look at PEAR's VersionControl_SVN | |||
One of the main problems with using SVN as a backend in our current products is speed - SVN is ridiculously slow. I think this might make fix our problems in this area, but input would be awesome: | |||
* Create SVN post commit hook script | |||
** Script will ping back to kubla on update script (details below) | |||
* Kubla's update script | |||
** Will accept file paths that have been updated in SVN | |||
** Will `svn up` those paths (upping the individual paths should be pretty quick...I hope) | |||
* When user wants to create a new file: | |||
* When user wants to edit a file: | |||
** User clicks "edit" or "create" on file | |||
** Give user a textarea where they can input changes. | |||
** User clicks save | |||
** Kubla checks for an svn lock in .svn. If the lock exists, prompt user to retry later; exit. If the lock is over $x seconds old, watchdog() it. | |||
** If no lock exists, save changes to disk | |||
** `svn commit` the file with appropriate message | |||
* New Questions: | |||
** How will updates be managed on mozilla.com? (oremj) | |||
*** Either `svn up` on a cron job, or another post-commit hook to update the live site off the production tag. | |||
** How will we sync SVN and Drupal permissions? (oremj) | |||
*** SVN currently grants permissions for localizers to /locale/. Kubla can have more specific perms, but there won't be much syncage. Moving an account from localizer->admin will require a bug. | |||
** How will we be able to make new accounts? (oremj) | |||
*** We'll have to have a special form in Kubla that files an IT bug. Since people have to get r+ and potentially fill out agreements, this isn't a terrible thing. It's also a good papertrail. | |||
== Sep 10, 2007 == | |||
* Current timeline says live on moz.com in 2 weeks! (omg) | |||
* new wiki page for [[Kubla:Documentation|Documentation]] | |||
* Triage [http://tinyurl.com/2msyn2 bugs] | |||
* next meeting? | |||
== Sep 4, 2007 == | |||
* new wiki page for [[Kubla:Deployment]] | |||
* Questions | |||
** How does a reviewer know when a new version of a page exists? | |||
*** '''New review queue getting committed soon.''' Click "Workspace" then "Review Queue" | |||
* '''[[User:Clouserw|clouserw]] to write some documentation/definitions''' | |||
* '''[[User:Clouserw|clouserw]] to test locale_access''' | |||
* Triage [http://tinyurl.com/2msyn2 bugs] | |||
** How do we want to split these up? | |||
*** Need to implement Bugzilla::RandomAssignment - new project for Reed? | |||
* '''[[User:Clouserw|clouserw]] to file bugs from the [[User:Clouserw/CMS:ToDoThat|Outdated ToDoThat page]] and the last of his notes''' | |||
* Next Meeting | |||
** '''Sep 11th, 2pm''' | |||
== Aug 23, 2007 == | == Aug 23, 2007 == | ||
* Recap Alex's Schedule | * Recap Alex's Schedule | ||
** Gone Aug 26-32nd, Leaving on Sept 15th | |||
* Look at where we currently are with todo/things that should be done | * Look at where we currently are with todo/things that should be done | ||
**Language detection and URL handling? | ** Language detection and URL handling? | ||
**Workflow module? | *** Essentially done, got some tweaks to do | ||
**Permissions structure? | *** '''Need to add locale mapping: en->en-US, es->es-ES, ja-JP-mac->ja, no->nb-NO, pt->pt-PT, sv->sv-SE''' | ||
**Upload/download files | *** '''Need to add English fallback to front pages only''' (it works on all other pages). eg. User goes to /de/ and page doesn't exist, they should be redirected to /en-US/ | ||
*** '''Need to test host switching''' | |||
** Workflow module? | |||
*** Finished, ready for review | |||
*** '''Publisher/admin can choose to immediately publish their changes, but should default to "needs review"''' | |||
** Permissions structure? | |||
*** locale_access module is finished, ready for review | |||
** Upload/download files | |||
*** '''Under development''' | |||
** '''[[User:clouserw|clouserw]] to review/verify all these next week''' | |||
* Other Concerns? | * Other Concerns? | ||
** fligtar contributes: hey guys, did you know that rrruffles have ridges? | |||
** '''Need to fix breadcrumbs''' | |||
** '''Need to incorporate [http://svn.mozilla.org/libs/product-details/ product-details] code''' | |||
** '''Need to setup /press/ pages''' | |||
** '''Need hella testing''' | |||
** Investigate drupal's simpletest module? | |||
** '''Lots of cleanup/link checking/etc.''' | |||
* Next Meeting? | * Next Meeting? | ||
** '''Sep. 4th, 2pm'''. Be there or be square. | |||
== Old Meetings == | == Old Meetings == | ||
*[[Website_CMS:Meeting_Notepad|Meeting Notepad]] | *[[Website_CMS:Meeting_Notepad|Meeting Notepad]] |