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 [[Kubla]] &raquo; Meeting Notepad
+== Oct 23, 2007 ==
+* Attendees: morgamic, clouserw, oremj
+* [[User:Clouserw|Clouserw]] felt the project was moving in a direction that was going to be good for a small subset of people, but not for the majority, and so put the brakes on the launch.  Specifically, using the database to store nodes, aside from being a pain (check out the bugs), it also means:
+** Code is not available to the public
+** We can't use the huge amount of tools out there (find, grep, etc.)
+** Creating many files/directories at the same time is a pain (we make about 150 new files for every firefox release)
+** The code is less mobile (I can't check out a copy somewhere and just start working)
+** We lose the simple directory structure the current code has (drupal doesn't have a concept of directories other than URL aliases)
+** We lose the SVN training that Pascal has been going through with localizers
+** We have to modify core drupal code (bug 397540, maybe others)
+** Drupal is hella slow (and I don't like saying hella!)
+** Drupal opens up new security problems (I got six new security announcements on the drupal mailing list last week)
+So, the plan:
+* Current mozilla.com
+** Essentially remains unchanged (continues to be the production tag in SVN)
+** /press/ pages will be handled inside of drupal, we'll need a way to integrate the two
+* Current Kubla:
+** Write an interface to view a file system (check for something that exists)
+** Write an interface to edit flat files
+** Write any svn interface stuff we need - look at PEAR's VersionControl_SVN
+One of the main problems with using SVN as a backend in our current products is speed - SVN is ridiculously slow.  I think this might make fix our problems in this area, but input would be awesome:
+* Create SVN post commit hook script
+** Script will ping back to kubla on update script (details below)
+* Kubla's update script
+** Will accept file paths that have been updated in SVN
+** Will `svn up` those paths (upping the individual paths should be pretty quick...I hope)
+* When user wants to create a new file:
+* When user wants to edit a file:
+** User clicks "edit" or "create" on file
+** Give user a textarea where they can input changes.
+** User clicks save
+** Kubla checks for an svn lock in .svn.  If the lock exists, prompt user to retry later; exit.  If the lock is over $x seconds old, watchdog() it.
+** If no lock exists, save changes to disk
+** `svn commit` the file with appropriate message
+* New Questions:
+** How will updates be managed on mozilla.com? (oremj)
+*** Either `svn up` on a cron job, or another post-commit hook to update the live site off the production tag.
+** How will we sync SVN and Drupal permissions? (oremj)
+*** SVN currently grants permissions for localizers to /locale/.  Kubla can have more specific perms, but there won't be much syncage.  Moving an account from localizer->admin will require a bug.
+** How will we be able to make new accounts? (oremj)
+*** We'll have to have a special form in Kubla that files an IT bug.  Since people have to get r+ and potentially fill out agreements, this isn't a terrible thing.  It's also a good papertrail.
+== Sep 10, 2007 ==
+* Current timeline says live on moz.com in 2 weeks! (omg)
+* new wiki page for [[Kubla:Documentation|Documentation]]
+* Triage [http://tinyurl.com/2msyn2 bugs]
+* next meeting?
+== Sep 4, 2007 ==
+* new wiki page for [[Kubla:Deployment]]
+* Questions
+** How does a reviewer know when a new version of a page exists?
+*** '''New review queue getting committed soon.'''  Click "Workspace" then "Review Queue"
+* '''[[User:Clouserw|clouserw]] to write some documentation/definitions'''
+* '''[[User:Clouserw|clouserw]] to test locale_access'''
+* Triage [http://tinyurl.com/2msyn2 bugs]
+** How do we want to split these up?
+*** Need to implement Bugzilla::RandomAssignment - new project for Reed?
+* '''[[User:Clouserw|clouserw]] to file bugs from the [[User:Clouserw/CMS:ToDoThat|Outdated ToDoThat page]] and the last of his notes'''
+* Next Meeting
+** '''Sep 11th, 2pm'''
 == Aug 23, 2007 ==
 * Recap Alex's Schedule
+** Gone Aug 26-32nd, Leaving on Sept 15th
 * Look at where we currently are with todo/things that should be done
-**Language detection and URL handling?
+** Language detection and URL handling?
-**Workflow module?
+*** Essentially done, got some tweaks to do
-**Permissions structure?
+*** '''Need to add locale mapping: en->en-US, es->es-ES, ja-JP-mac->ja, no->nb-NO, pt->pt-PT, sv->sv-SE'''
-**Upload/download files
+*** '''Need to add English fallback to front pages only''' (it works on all other pages).  eg. User goes to /de/ and page doesn't exist, they should be redirected to /en-US/
+*** '''Need to test host switching'''
+** Workflow module?
+*** Finished, ready for review
+*** '''Publisher/admin can choose to immediately publish their changes, but should default to "needs review"'''
+** Permissions structure?
+*** locale_access module is finished, ready for review
+** Upload/download files
+*** '''Under development'''
+** '''[[User:clouserw|clouserw]] to review/verify all these next week'''
 * Other Concerns?
+** fligtar contributes:  hey guys, did you know that rrruffles have ridges?
+** '''Need to fix breadcrumbs'''
+** '''Need to incorporate [http://svn.mozilla.org/libs/product-details/ product-details] code'''
+** '''Need to setup /press/ pages'''
+** '''Need hella testing'''
+** Investigate drupal's simpletest module?
+** '''Lots of cleanup/link checking/etc.'''
 * Next Meeting?
+** '''Sep. 4th, 2pm'''.  Be there or be square.
 == Old Meetings ==
 *[[Website_CMS:Meeting_Notepad|Meeting Notepad]]