Kubla:Meeting Notepad

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Oct 23, 2007

• Attendees: morgamic, clouserw, oremj
• Clouserw felt the project was moving in a direction that was going to be good for a small subset of people, but not for the majority, and so put the brakes on the launch. Specifically, using the database to store nodes, aside from being a pain (check out the bugs), it also means:
  • Code is not available to the public
  • We can't use the huge amount of tools out there (find, grep, etc.)
  • Creating many files/directories at the same time is a pain (we make about 150 new files for every firefox release)
  • The code is less mobile (I can't check out a copy somewhere and just start working)
  • We lose the simple directory structure the current code has (drupal doesn't have a concept of directories other than URL aliases)
  • We lose the SVN training that Pascal has been going through with localizers
  • We have to modify core drupal code (bug 397540, maybe others)
  • Drupal is hella slow (and I don't like saying hella!)
  • Drupal opens up new security problems (I got six new security announcements on the drupal mailing list last week)

So, the plan:

• Current mozilla.com
  • Essentially remains unchanged (continues to be the production tag in SVN)
  • /press/ pages will be handled inside of drupal, we'll need a way to integrate the two

• Current Kubla:
  • Write an interface to view a file system (check for something that exists)
  • Write an interface to edit flat files
  • Write any svn interface stuff we need - look at PEAR's VersionControl_SVN

One of the main problems with using SVN as a backend in our current products is speed - SVN is ridiculously slow. I think this might make fix our problems in this area, but input would be awesome:

• Create SVN post commit hook script
  • Script will ping back to kubla on update script (details below)

• Kubla's update script
  • Will accept file paths that have been updated in SVN
  • Will `svn up` those paths (upping the individual paths should be pretty quick...I hope)

• When user wants to create a new file:
• When user wants to edit a file:
  • User clicks "edit" or "create" on file
  • Give user a textarea where they can input changes.
  • User clicks save
  • Kubla checks for an svn lock in .svn. If the lock exists, prompt user to retry later; exit. If the lock is over $x seconds old, watchdog() it.
  • If no lock exists, save changes to disk
  • `svn commit` the file with appropriate message

• New Questions:
  • How will updates be managed on mozilla.com? (oremj)
    • Either `svn up` on a cron job, or another post-commit hook to update the live site off the production tag.
  • How will we sync SVN and Drupal permissions? (oremj)
    • SVN currently grants permissions for localizers to /locale/. Kubla can have more specific perms, but there won't be much syncage. Moving an account from localizer->admin will require a bug.
  • How will we be able to make new accounts? (oremj)
    • We'll have to have a special form in Kubla that files an IT bug. Since people have to get r+ and potentially fill out agreements, this isn't a terrible thing. It's also a good papertrail.

Sep 10, 2007

• Current timeline says live on moz.com in 2 weeks! (omg)
• new wiki page for Documentation
• Triage bugs
• next meeting?

Sep 4, 2007

• new wiki page for Kubla:Deployment

• Questions
  • How does a reviewer know when a new version of a page exists?
    • New review queue getting committed soon. Click "Workspace" then "Review Queue"

• clouserw to write some documentation/definitions
• clouserw to test locale_access

• Triage bugs
  • How do we want to split these up?
    • Need to implement Bugzilla::RandomAssignment - new project for Reed?

• clouserw to file bugs from the Outdated ToDoThat page and the last of his notes

• Next Meeting
  • Sep 11th, 2pm

Aug 23, 2007

• Recap Alex's Schedule
  • Gone Aug 26-32nd, Leaving on Sept 15th

• Look at where we currently are with todo/things that should be done
  • Language detection and URL handling?
    • Essentially done, got some tweaks to do
    • Need to add locale mapping: en->en-US, es->es-ES, ja-JP-mac->ja, no->nb-NO, pt->pt-PT, sv->sv-SE
    • Need to add English fallback to front pages only (it works on all other pages). eg. User goes to /de/ and page doesn't exist, they should be redirected to /en-US/
    • Need to test host switching

• • Workflow module?
    • Finished, ready for review
    • Publisher/admin can choose to immediately publish their changes, but should default to "needs review"

• • Permissions structure?
    • locale_access module is finished, ready for review

• • Upload/download files
    • Under development

• • clouserw to review/verify all these next week

• Other Concerns?
  • fligtar contributes: hey guys, did you know that rrruffles have ridges?
  • Need to fix breadcrumbs
  • Need to incorporate product-details code
  • Need to setup /press/ pages
  • Need hella testing
  • Investigate drupal's simpletest module?
  • Lots of cleanup/link checking/etc.

• Next Meeting?
  • Sep. 4th, 2pm. Be there or be square.

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