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= Minutes =
= Minutes =
== Significant Updates ==
=== Firefox for Android Web Apps Test Day this Friday ===
* have an Android phone? help us test!
* join the #testday channel
* atrain will be driving it
=== Android Runtime ===
* Android work is on track, perfectly timed
* end of August milestone is about getting components out into channel
* Marketplace will remain restricted to trusted Mozillians
* thanks to all who helped!
== Checkin/Status on Major Challenges ==
=== Multiple Apps Per Origin ===
* bwalker's action item was to talk to one of the developers who was having trouble
* hasn't heard back from him
* -> bwalker to recontact developer who chafed at single app per origin restriction
* we aren't focusing on this for the first version
* it's too much trouble, we have too much else to do
* unless there's a compelling need, we plan to defer it
* -> pmpcat to get rpiovesan to talk to clee about multiple apps per origin
=== Packaged Apps ===
* our next session on packaged apps is today at 1pm PT
* focus is updates for packaged apps
* plan to finish out design for it
* go/no-go meeting on running banner ad in Fennec conflicts with this meeting
* -> pmpcat to determine if Fennec banner add go/nogo meeting needs to be moved
=== Payments/Identity ===
* rfant conversed with bluevia/telefonica several weeks ago
* they agreed not to do a one-off for basecamp
* identity team engaging with telefonica next week to determine oauth-based identity solution for basecamp
* bluevia was going to spin up their own billing interface
* after some discussion, they decided to use an aggregator
* we're now in the process of picking an aggregator
* aggregators have been around for a while
* they already have interface, we understand how to integrate with them
* should save us time in the v1 timeframe
* next step conversation this week to agree on aggregator
* after which we'll reengage on technical level
* and figure out navigator.pay changes
* pmpcat and others have been driving updated user flow process for billing
* doing the same thing for marketplace and identity
== Questions and Concerns ==
=== focusing meeting on Apps Ecosystem for Firefox OS ===
* myk proposed focusing this meeting on the apps ecosystem for firefox os
* most apps folks are spending most of their time working on it
* we should spend our precious meeting time talking about the thing we're spending most of the rest of our time working on
* Android is short-term, so keeping focus on it will help us in the short term
* are we still going to build an ecosystem for desktop?
* the steering committee wants to make sure we make basecamp successful
* the steering committee has deprioritized the desktop marketplace
* so we have delayed its release, but we haven't given up on it
* desktop has a huge role to play in discovery and send-to-phone
* ecosystem for desktop will not get attention right now
* don't think we've abandoned desktop! we haven't
* we're just focusing on mobile for the moment
* pmpcat is responsible for making sure teams dedicated to android and desktop have a place where they're not the second or third priority
* pmpcat will monitor concerns in this meeting and see if we need to set up separate meetings for desktop and android
* she won't let it fall through the cracks!
=== basecamp status updates ===
* some people say we're almost ready
* others say we're far away
* status reports are not in alignment with each other
* QA says we're red because smoke tests can't run because phones are busted
* others seem to have a different opinion
* mtreese is going to drop fuel gauges from status reports
* instead he's going to institute burn rates and other depictions
* will also have feature-by-feature status charts in report
* we're also working on ways to get accurate estimates on when we'll be there
* f.e. getting "level of effort estimates on every open bug
* so we can determine, given existing amount of work, whether schedule is realistic
* all those changes are in place
* we're driving toward consistency
* send remaining concerns to mtreese or raise them again next week!
* gas gauges have been helpful to rfant
* uses it to determine basecamp status at a glance
* mtreese has also received feedback elsewhere that there's too much info in the reports
* will continue evolving it
=== apps tracking for basecamp ===
* there are people tracking the platform
* there are people tracking gaia
* there are people tracking apps
* what apps features are we tracking?
* QA folks are confused
* pmpcat is going to take a deep dive into bugzilla
* suspects that dev hub, marketplace, apps management folks aren't marking bugs as basecamp blockers
* pmpcat will sit down with dietrich and ask help from myk to make sure we track apps features as basecamp blockers
== \n's internship ==
* \n's internship is coming to an end
* yay \n!


= Actions =
= Actions =
* bwalker to recontact developer who chafed at single app per origin restriction
* pmpcat to get rpiovesan to talk to clee about multiple apps per origin
* pmpcat to determine if Fennec banner add go/nogo meeting needs to be moved
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