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QA Org Items
QA Org Items
   
   
 
* New Hires & Interviews  
    New Hires & Interviews  
4 candidates in the pipeline for Web QA's internship (closing in on 1 promising one)
 
* Karl Thiessen new hire!  Services QA team - Feb 11
    4 candidates in the pipeline for Web QA's internship (closing in on 1 promising one)
 
    Karl Thiessen new hire!  Services QA team - Feb 11
 
   
   
 
* Upcoming Events/Conferences  
    Upcoming Events/Conferences  
* 2-3 February: FOSDEM 2013 - https://fosdem.org/2013/
 
* MWC - Feb 25-28
    2-3 February: FOSDEM 2013 - https://fosdem.org/2013/
* March 4th-8th, Mobile FxAndroid work-week (London)
 
    MWC - Feb 25-28
 
    March 4th-8th, Mobile FxAndroid work-week (London)
 
   
   
 
* Notices
    Notices
 
   
 
   
   
Travel / PTO
Travel / PTO
   
   
 
* rbillings 2/1-2/5 in Seattle working on/off; 2/6-11 Hawaii (+1)
    rbillings 2/1-2/5 in Seattle working on/off; 2/6-11 Hawaii (+1)
* camd 2/20-3/1 in Hawaii
 
* nhirata : out 5/17, 5/20 - attending a friend's wedding
    camd 2/20-3/1 in Hawaii
 
    nhirata : out 5/17, 5/20 - attending a friend's wedding
 
   
   
QA Team Updates
QA Team Updates
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Desktop (Juan)
Desktop (Juan)
   
   
 
* Firefox  
    Firefox  
Fx19b4 to be shipped Thursday
 
* Possible 18.0.2 based on crash data after speculative fix in 19.0b4.
    Fx19b4 to be shipped Thursday
 
    Possible 18.0.2 based on crash data after speculative fix in 19.0b4.
 
   
   
 
* ESR (ashughes)  
    ESR (ashughes)  
 
   
 
   
   
 
* Stability (marcia)  
    Stability (marcia)  
Weekly Stabilty Report: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/2013-01-29#Stability_Report_.5BWeekly.5D
 
    Weekly Stabilty Report: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/2013-01-29#Stability_Report_.5BWeekly.5D
 
   
   
 
* Automation (ashughes)
    Automation (ashughes)
 
   
 
   
   
 
* Sync Client (Tracy)  
    Sync Client (Tracy)  
Server side issue is causing Sync failures.  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=836262  
 
* The issue is not affecting every user. And it appears to be random for those that do get affected. That is, the failure will last for a while, then clear itself up. Zues, the server load balancer, is likely the cause for this randomness. OP's are on it like white on rice.  
    Server side issue is causing Sync failures.  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=836262  
 
    The issue is not affecting every user. And it appears to be random for those that do get affected. That is, the failure will last for a while, then clear itself up. Zues, the server load balancer, is likely the cause for this randomness. OP's are on it like white on rice.  
 
   
   
 
* Community  
    Community  
 
* Security (mwobensmith)
   
* In Toronto for FF Work Week
 
    Security (mwobensmith)
 
    In Toronto for FF Work Week
 
   
   
Mobile (Tony)   
Mobile (Tony)   
   
   
 
* Fennec (Kevin/Aaron)  
    Fennec (Kevin/Aaron)  
* MWC Timeline
 
* http://people.mozilla.com/~elancaster/MWC2013/MWC2013/MWC2013Gantt.html
    MWC Timeline
* WebRTC for Android Testing (currently on Alder project branch)
 
* About:Home/Distribution Testing
    http://people.mozilla.com/~elancaster/MWC2013/MWC2013/MWC2013Gantt.html
 
* Stability (nhirata)  
    WebRTC for Android Testing (currently on Alder project branch)
* https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/2013-01-29#Mobile
 
* https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Notes/30-Jan-2013#Stability
    About:Home/Distribution Testing
 
   
 
    Stability (nhirata)  
 
    https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/2013-01-29#Mobile
 
    https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Notes/30-Jan-2013#Stability
 
   
 
   
   
 
* B2G (Geo/jhammink)  
    B2G (Geo/jhammink)  
* Stability (nhirata)
 
* https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/2013-01-29#B2G
    Stability (nhirata)
* DogFood Channel (courtesy of Aki):
 
* The sources.xml is available next to the update:http://update.boot2gecko.org/beta/b2g_beta_update_20130128070201.xml.
    https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/2013-01-29#B2G
* Releng generated the RIL repack, but it's not clear how to get it to QA without bug 834424.
 
* Kernel  :  
    DogFood Channel (courtesy of Aki):
* Be sure you are on the latest kernel!
 
* Kernel dates are still the same between otoro kernel 11 and 12 and unagi 4 and 5... they should say Dec 5.
    The sources.xml is available next to the update:     http://update.boot2gecko.org/beta/b2g_beta_update_20130128070201.xml     .
* (courtesy of mwu) : The only change is one kernel command line parameter in this update. pmem_adsp has been changed to 13631488, so you should see pmem_adsp=13631488 after running "adb shell cat /proc/cmdline". If the number is lower, you have an older kernel.  This applies to both kernels.
 
* UX Branch : not used now, status unsure if we will reopen or need to based on new branching.  TBD
    Releng generated the RIL repack, but it's not clear how to get it to QA without bug 834424.
* SUMO Feedback : closed for now; cancelled further meetings, since Test drivers is done for now
 
* Testrun 3 (mbrandt) :
    Kernel  :  
* Full Stop (today) on testing Build ID: 2013-01-25-07
 
* RIL : AU 184 with d72fcfb5ebcd1a51ba4e318517244bdb34ddbfa5.  
    Be sure you are on the latest kernel!
* "gecko" revision="d72fcfb5ebcd1a51ba4e318517244bdb34ddbfa5"
 
* "gaia" revision="6369dbf33b622faf4b4d176fed30b77c5c319dfc"
    Kernel dates are still the same between otoro kernel 11 and 12 and unagi 4 and 5... they should say Dec 5.
* Turns out that this is an outdated RIL.
 
* Full Stop again on changing over to the Jan 28th build that contains the corrected QC Ril  (version 189)
    (courtesy of mwu) : The only change is one kernel command line parameter in this update. pmem_adsp has been changed to 13631488, so you should see pmem_adsp=13631488 after running "adb shell cat /proc/cmdline". If the number is lower, you have an older kernel.  This applies to both kernels.
* The build contained incompatable gecko/gaia binaries.  This is the deviceStorage issue that david flanagan mentioned in https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mozilla.dev.gaia/YAFpysr7JsI/discussion
 
* http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/b2g/manifests/2013-01-28-07/source_unagi-stable_2013-01-28-07.xml
    UX Branch : not used now, status unsure if we will reopen or need to based on new branching.  TBD
* https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiVLbIfaNemedFZKQlczTXdlYXRacGNjSU1qZTBzQ3c#gid=106
 
* QAnalyst is working on:
    SUMO Feedback : closed for now; cancelled further meetings, since Test drivers is done for now
* verifying bugs
 
* addressing qawanted bugs
    Testrun 3 (mbrandt) :
* running the smoketests for 1/30
 
* Testrun 4
    Full Stop (today) on testing Build ID: 2013-01-25-07
* If nightly 1/30 checks out we will spin a TestRun 4 test run and have the teams - Mozilla, TEF, and QAnalyst - begin testing against it
 
* Smoketest is now updated in MozTrap and is called Firefox OS Daily Smoketest. Test cases match what is in the spreadsheet
    RIL : AU 184 with d72fcfb5ebcd1a51ba4e318517244bdb34ddbfa5.  
* Apps (Jason)  
 
* Lots of 3rd party app update testing
    "gecko" revision="d72fcfb5ebcd1a51ba4e318517244bdb34ddbfa5"
* Starting to focus on preinstalled app flows
 
* Packaged apps experienced bustage for two days - delaying testing
    "gaia" revision="6369dbf33b622faf4b4d176fed30b77c5c319dfc"
 
    Turns out that this is an outdated RIL.
 
    Full Stop again on changing over to the Jan 28th build that contains the corrected QC Ril  (version 189)
 
    The build contained incompatable gecko/gaia binaries.  This is the deviceStorage issue that david flanagan mentioned in https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mozilla.dev.gaia/YAFpysr7JsI/discussion
 
    http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/b2g/manifests/2013-01-28-07/source_unagi-stable_2013-01-28-07.xml
 
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiVLbIfaNemedFZKQlczTXdlYXRacGNjSU1qZTBzQ3c#gid=106
 
    QAnalyst is working on:
 
    verifying bugs
 
    addressing qawanted bugs
 
    running the smoketests for 1/30
 
    Testrun 4
 
    If nightly 1/30 checks out we will spin a TestRun 4 test run and have the teams - Mozilla, TEF, and QAnalyst - begin testing against it
 
    Smoketest is now updated in MozTrap and is called Firefox OS Daily Smoketest. Test cases match what is in the spreadsheet
 
    Apps (Jason)  
 
    Lots of 3rd party app update testing
 
    Starting to focus on preinstalled app flows
 
    Packaged apps experienced bustage for two days - delaying testing
 
   
   
 
* Community Members Onboarding
    Community Members Onboarding
 
   
 
   
   
Services (jrgm)  
Services (jrgm)  
   
   
 
* Sync Server (jrgm) - https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Sync/
    Sync Server (jrgm) - https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Sync/
 
   
 
   
   
 
* BrowserID (jrgm) - https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/BrowserID
    BrowserID (jrgm) - https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/BrowserID
* had some ops deployment issues with http://www.rsbac.org/ and train-2013.01.18, so this train is not being deployed. RSBAC issues have been cleaned up and changes are in stage and production.
 
* support work for Zeus load-balancer upgrade in PHX
    had some ops deployment issues with http://www.rsbac.org/ and train-2013.01.18, so this train is not being deployed. RSBAC issues have been cleaned up and changes are in stage and production.
* ran load-testing in stage with @lloyd; seems to bottlenecking on network infrastructure and not the node.js daemons themselves; needs more investigation.
 
* train-2013.02.01 will be cut on Friday.
    support work for Zeus load-balancer upgrade in PHX
 
    ran load-testing in stage with @lloyd; seems to bottlenecking on network infrastructure and not the node.js daemons themselves; needs more investigation.
 
    train-2013.02.01 will be cut on Friday.
 
   
   
 
* Hiring and Training  
    Hiring and Training  
* new hire starting week after next.
 
* phone screens last week and this week; on-site interview this week.
    new hire starting week after next.
 
    phone screens last week and this week; on-site interview this week.
 
   
   
Web (Stephen)   
Web (Stephen)   
   
   
 
* Affiliates  
    Affiliates  
No updates
 
    No updates
 
   
   
 
* B2G/Gaia testing:
    B2G/Gaia testing:
* Our tests catch regressions, so yay!
 
* https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=835567 - [Music] Expected text missing when start Music app with no media files on SD Card
    Our tests catch regressions, so yay!
Wrangling the "which build(s) and Gaia branches should we be using/targetting," respectively, issue, going forward
 
* Been hit by lots of unrelated regressions and core Gecko/Gaia changes
    https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=835567 - [Music] Expected text missing when start Music app with no media files on SD Card
* had two days of bad builds
 
* More progress on our automation infrastructure:
    Wrangling the "which build(s) and Gaia branches should we be using/targetting," respectively, issue, going forward
* https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=834531 -* * [META] Set up and house Unagis/Jenkins boxes (Mac Minis) for Gaia UI automation and update testing
 
    Been hit by lots of unrelated regressions and core Gecko/Gaia changes
 
    had two days of bad builds
 
    More progress on our automation infrastructure:
 
    https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=834531 -       [META] Set up and house Unagis/Jenkins boxes (Mac Minis) for Gaia UI automation and update testing
 
   
   
 
* Engagement Projects  
    Engagement Projects  
 
   
 
   
   
 
* Firefox Marketplace  
    Firefox Marketplace  
 
   
 
   
   
 
* Mozilla.com  
    Mozilla.com  
http://scrumbu.gs/p/mozilla_org/
 
    http://scrumbu.gs/p/mozilla_org/
 
   
   
 
* Mozillians  
    Mozillians  
* The team met for our 1st time and discussed the infrastruture and process around how deployments occur
 
* We're building a risk assment model and will apply CD principles to the testing strategy
    The team met for our 1st time and discussed the infrastruture and process around how deployments occur
* statsd/graphite
 
* waffle
    We're building a risk assment model and will apply CD principles to the testing strategy
* developer unit tests and webdriver tests where appropriate
 
* QA and dev are auditing our current automation and looking for coverage gaps as well as areas of overalap
    statsd/graphite
 
    waffle
 
    developer unit tests and webdriver tests where appropriate
 
    QA and dev are auditing our current automation and looking for coverage gaps as well as areas of overalap
 
   
   
 
* MDN  
    MDN  
http://scrumbu.gs/p/mdn/
 
    http://scrumbu.gs/p/mdn/
 
   
   
 
* Socorro  
    Socorro  
No deployment today - milestone 35  on hold until the week of 2013-02-13
 
* issues with crontabber (releasing the beast)
    No deployment today - milestone 35  on hold until the week of 2013-02-13
* https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=818702
 
* waiting on privacy review for the new email feature
    issues with crontabber (releasing the beast)
* https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=814647
 
    https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=818702
 
    waiting on privacy review for the new email feature
 
    https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=814647
 
    
    
 
* Community Members Onboarding
    Community Members Onboarding
helping "yoshi" run mcom-tests and get more familiar with our coding practices, etc.
 
    helping "yoshi" run mcom-tests and get more familiar with our coding practices, etc.
 
   
   
Community (Marcia)
Community (Marcia)
   
   
 
Gear Store
    Gear Store
* The Gear store is now following a new process as described in the wiki: https://wiki.mozilla.org/GearStore
 
* Requests will be made using a Bugzilla form and they are trying to define a set of conversion points that each team will use to define who gets Gear. See https://wiki.mozilla.org/Contribute/Conversion_points for info about the conversion points
    The Gear store is now following a new process as described in the wiki: https://wiki.mozilla.org/GearStore
* The issue of new employees not getting any gear has been raised with HR and I was told that plans are in the works to have the onboarding portal have a series of choices for new employees
 
* We still can design our own Gear for QA and I encourage teams to think about what they would like to do
    Requests will be made using a Bugzilla form and they are trying to define a set of conversion points that each team will use to define who gets Gear. See https://wiki.mozilla.org/Contribute/Conversion_points for info about the conversion points
* Projects  
 
Notes from the Grow Mozilla Meeting:
    The issue of new employees not getting any gear has been raised with HR and I was told that plans are in the works to have the onboarding portal have a series of choices for new employees
* There is a proposal on the table for a possible Summit
 
* If there is such an event they will not have the traditional MozCamps that are held every year but there will be "regional" community events
    We still can design our own Gear for QA and I encourage teams to think about what they would like to do
* We should be thinking about QA community events we want to be involved with in 2013
 
* One and Done project:
    Projects  
* Each team is requested to come up with the list of tasks that each team does periodically, and highlight those that are particulary suited for community contributors. https://etherpad.mozilla.org/User-Stories-One-and-Done
 
* Food for thought: Add-ons team has made changes to its incentive program for its add-on reviewers. https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2013/01/15/improvements-to-the-reviewer-program/
    Notes from the Grow Mozilla Meeting:
 
    There is a proposal on the table for a possible Summit
 
    If there is such an event they will not have the traditional MozCamps that are held every year but there will be "regional" community events
 
    We should be thinking about QA community events we want to be involved with in 2013
 
    One and Done project:
 
    Each team is requested to come up with the list of tasks that each team does periodically, and highlight those that are particulary suited for community contributors. https://etherpad.mozilla.org/User-Stories-One-and-Done
 
    Food for thought: Add-ons team has made changes to its incentive program for its add-on reviewers. https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2013/01/15/improvements-to-the-reviewer-program/
 
   
   
 
* Upcoming Events  
    Upcoming Events  
Community Building Meetup in March: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/community-building-meetup-early-2013
 
    Community Building Meetup in March: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/community-building-meetup-early-2013
 
   
   
 
* Testdays (ashughes)
    Testdays (ashughes)
 
   
 
   
   
 
* Video Work
    Video Work
* No Report  this week.
 
    No Report  this week.
 
   
   
 
* QMO.next (Raymond)
    QMO.next (Raymond)
 
   
 
   
   
 
* Community Members Onboarding
    Community Members Onboarding
 
   
 
   
   
Automation Development (Henrik, Dave)   
Automation Development (Henrik, Dave)   
    
    
 
* General
    General
Henrik & Dave will be presenting on Firefox OS Automation at FOSDEM
 
* https://fosdem.org/2013/schedule/event/automating_firefox_os/
    Henrik & Dave will be presenting on Firefox OS Automation at FOSDEM
 
    https://fosdem.org/2013/schedule/event/automating_firefox_os/
 
   
   
 
* Projects
    Projects
B2G performance
 
* [davehunt] Reports now show per app launch times and an overhauled UI
    B2G performance
* Mozmill
 
* [henrik] Released Mozmill 1.5.20 to fix a major application shutdown issue on Mac (see bug 834635)  
    [davehunt] Reports now show per app launch times and an overhauled UI
* Mozmill CI
 
* [henrik] New Mac minis for SCL3 about to get shipped; Other machines for 10.6 and 10.7 still not available
    Mozmill
* [henrik] Started to work on pulsebuildmonitor enhancements so we can migrate hopefully soon to get started with rapid beta work  
 
    [henrik] Released Mozmill 1.5.20 to fix a major application shutdown issue on Mac (see bug 834635)  
 
    Mozmill CI
 
    [henrik] New Mac minis for SCL3 about to get shipped; Other machines for 10.6 and 10.7 still not available
 
    [henrik] Started to work on pulsebuildmonitor enhancements so we can migrate hopefully soon to get started with rapid beta work  
 
   
   
 
* MozTrap (Cameron)
    MozTrap (Cameron)
* Pushed version 1.4 to production.
 
* Thanks to rbillings for testing it!
    Pushed version 1.4 to production.
* See release notes: https://moztrap.readthedocs.org/en/latest/releasenotes.html#version-1-4
 
    Thanks to rbillings for testing it!
 
    See release notes: https://moztrap.readthedocs.org/en/latest/releasenotes.html#version-1-4
 
   
   
 
* Community Members Onboarding  
    Community Members Onboarding  
 
   
 
   
   
Basecamp Roundtable/Discussion Items  
Basecamp Roundtable/Discussion Items  
   
   
 
* [item here]
    [item here]
 
   
   
Other Roundtable/Discussion Items   
Other Roundtable/Discussion Items   
   
   
 
* [Tony] Renewing MSDN licensing (expires on March 31st)
    [Tony] Renewing MSDN licensing (expires on March 31st)
* "Microsoft Visual Studio Pro w/MSDN Pro All Lng Software Assurance Open Value 1 License No Level Additional Product 3 Year Acquired year 1"
 
* Liz Henry - new Bugmaster that wants to say hello - Update: Liz is not feeling well and asked that we review https://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugmasters and give feedback.
    "Microsoft Visual Studio Pro w/MSDN Pro All Lng Software Assurance Open Value 1 License No Level Additional Product 3 Year Acquired year 1"
* Was speaking with tchung about a new page for QMO the idea was to have everyones bugmail on it, like on a table what do you think - satdav
 
* Satdav, see https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/whois (needs updating)
    Liz Henry - new Bugmaster that wants to say hello - Update: Liz is not feeling well and asked that we review https://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugmasters and give feedback.
* do we have a bug for Persona - to add it to QMO - satdav
 
* Please add all ideas in this area:  https://etherpad.mozilla.org/QMO-2013
    Was speaking with tchung about a new page for QMO the idea was to have everyones bugmail on it, like on a table what do you think - satdav
* Update on status of One and Done Project as well as next Steps [pragmatic]
 
* Reclamation of unagi devices - if you are not actively using your unagi device, please turn it in - we need devices for both automation and some testers require two devices for the type of testing they are doing. Thanks. [marcia]
    Satdav, see https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/whois (needs updating)
* MozTrap feature change: Case "name" and "tags" sync between case versions. [camd]
 
    do we have a bug for Persona - to add it to QMO - satdav
 
    Please add all ideas in this area:  https://etherpad.mozilla.org/QMO-2013
 
    Update on status of One and Done Project as well as next Steps [pragmatic]
 
    Reclamation of unagi devices - if you are not actively using your unagi device, please turn it in - we need devices for both automation and some testers require two devices for the type of testing they are doing. Thanks. [marcia]
 
    MozTrap feature change: Case "name" and "tags" sync between case versions. [camd]
 
   
   
Notes, Takeaways and Action Items  
Notes, Takeaways and Action Items*
   
   
 
* Today  
    Today  
 
   
   
 
* Notes
    Notes
 
   
 
   
   
 
* Action Items
    Action Items
Add your nickname to your Bugzilla account so it is easier to find you in the dropdown
 
* Stephen to follow up on QMO related items including:
    Add your nickname to your Bugzilla account so it is easier to find you in the dropdown
* integrating Mozilla Persona login
 
* removing BuddyPress?
    Stephen to follow up on QMO related items including:
* updating the teams' pages
 
* Individual teams to update the content on QMO
    integrating Mozilla Persona login
 
    removing BuddyPress?
 
    updating the teams' pages
 
    Individual teams to update the content on QMO
 
   
   
 
* Last Meeting  
    Last Meeting  
 
   
   
 
* Action Items
    Action Items    
 
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